Jo90
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Post by Jo90 on Aug 17, 2006 9:54:39 GMT
Billy Morgan had a different team out for the Munster Final Reply to the one he named a few days previously and I expect him to do the same this time. It's very unfair on the player who gets named on the team originally and then gets dropped. Cussen is 6'6" but was probably only brought in to simulate Donaghy.
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Post by twohands on Aug 17, 2006 10:36:24 GMT
So who do you think will and won't start then Jo90?
Apparently the Cussen experiment ended through injury when our keeper Quirke flattened him for simulating Donaghy.
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Post by northkerry on Aug 17, 2006 11:00:07 GMT
I think Kerry will come through alright, but only by a few points in the last quarter.....biggest reason is the Canty injury & having to bring Kavanagh back to cover....plus our lads won't let themselves be beaten twice by the old enemy......this alone will be enough to spur them on I think.....fancy Mayo to beat Laois as they are a better team in totality and if they perform they should go through......Dublin will prob beat them setting us up for a trip down memory lane for the final........how much do you think ''The Bomber'' t-shirts will be outside Croke park for the final??!!
Either which way I hope the support is larger and more vocal than the Armagh game......seen more enthusiasm at the start of a north kerry championship game in the depths of winter! (well maybe not, but you know what I mean!) I only felt the Kerry support coming to life early in the 2nd half when we got our noses in front......its when they are behind they need it more in fairness
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Post by patc on Aug 17, 2006 11:31:08 GMT
Only changes I'd make would be Sheehan for MFR and Darren Sull for Paul Galvin... We absolutely need a reliable place kicker. Not a great game by Cork the last day, strange how they seem to look very ordinary in Croker these last few years. You can be sure, they will be highly motivated for this one though! Sheehan out of the equation of course, but if he were fit, the argument that he may disrupt the current strategy of the big full fwd playing with two mobile fwds feeding off him...dunno how that would pan out, Sheehan is a fine player, but I would stay as is, and give MFR another chance to fire.... As for Galvin, would have to disagree...reckon he must play if fit/available....he brings that bit of steel & mobility to our play and he contributes also between the sticks...think he has been more attack minded this year too. 1-12 league, 06 C'ship b4 the the Armagh game. He was wrong to react during the Armagh game, but again what caused it? A substitue Armagh player getting involved with an on-field player.....seeing Kernan involved in a melee, it was comical to be fair. But it underlines this niggling gamesmnaship which Armagh will use to turn the tide in their favour. 16 men on the field at one stage. I think Kernan got off lightly here.......there must be a clear responsibility on him with regard to his team off the field as much as on, and when a manager cannot stop his offfield players interfering with the game , then he needs to be sanctioned. Imagine if it were the other way? We'd never hear the end of it......Water carrier my a**e..... Up d Kingdom....
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Post by TheCritic on Aug 17, 2006 12:11:47 GMT
Well said patc!! Totally agree with all you said! Galvin has to stay. The engine on the lad of unbeliveable, always working! And over the last few years scoring as well! Vital to the teams success.
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Post by ruralgaa on Aug 17, 2006 12:30:32 GMT
Morgan banned from the sideline Billy Morgan 17 August 2006
Cork will have to try and beat Kerry in Sunday’s All-Ireland semi-final without manager Billy Morgan patrolling the sideline after the Central Disciplinary Committee confirmed a one match ban.
The Rebel manager was handed the suspension from the sideline for pitch incursions in the match against Donegal and despite a personal appearance by Morgan at the meeting, the CDC upheld the suspension.
The news comes as a huge blow to the Munster champions who will miss the services of their manager urging them on from the pitch side on Sunday.
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Post by ciarrai33 on Aug 17, 2006 12:36:53 GMT
Id imagine the fact that Micko Dwyer got his touchline ban recalled, should be enough for Frank Murphy to get Billy Morgan back on the sideline
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Post by kerrygold on Aug 17, 2006 12:50:34 GMT
it will be interesting alright to see what the bold frankie can come up with get willie back on the side lines,
wait for it from morgan,"that CDC team are the most negitive and cyncical team around."
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Post by twohands on Aug 17, 2006 12:57:44 GMT
Jo90 was right all along. There'll be a few late changes now. Billy in goal, quirke to full back, Kavanagh to centre field.
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Post by ArthurG on Aug 17, 2006 13:12:14 GMT
For heaven sake lads it doesn't make one shread of difference where a manager is sitting the day of the match. once the players are sent out on the field they are on their own.
When i played, the sight of the manager hopping up and down on the sideline, spouting abuse at me only led to resentment on my part. You can, as a manager make much more informed changes while watching the game from the stands.
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Post by MrT on Aug 17, 2006 13:16:32 GMT
You can, as a manager make much more informed changes while watching the game from the stands. Agreed, and you can get away from the raw emotion on the sideline to make informaed switches
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Post by butchy on Aug 17, 2006 13:41:56 GMT
Your right there ArthurG. The managers back in West Kerry get carried away on the sideline.
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Post by ciarrai33 on Aug 17, 2006 13:46:17 GMT
But what if u are some player plucked from the obscurity of Cork junior football. U totally respect Billy Morgan cos of that and are willing to put ur body on the line for him. The sight of him on the sideline could be the incentive needed to keep going when the limbs are getting tired. And he will be on the sideline, way more visable than many other managers, taking no sh1t from anyone. Its been Billy's way ever, I dunno, think id prefer him up in the stands.
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Post by butchy on Aug 17, 2006 13:58:54 GMT
Sure they might put a carboard cut out of him on the sideline and get the best of both worlds !!
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Post by Owenabue on Aug 17, 2006 14:07:01 GMT
But what if u are some player plucked from the obscurity of Cork junior football. U totally respect Billy Morgan cos of that and are willing to put ur body on the line for him. The sight of him on the sideline could be the incentive needed to keep going when the limbs are getting tired. And he will be on the sideline, way more visable than many other managers, taking no sh1t from anyone. Its been Billy's way ever, I dunno, think id prefer him up in the stands. Mmmm, don't think our "junior footballers plucked from obscurity" are that delicate that they can't play if Billy is too far away from them. ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png)
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Post by buck02 on Aug 17, 2006 14:55:08 GMT
Morgan gets banned for walking onto the pitch too much but John Carroll gets cleared of reckless use of the hurl at the end of the W'ford game. Tis a strange world the boys in the CDC occupy alrite.
By the way, Morgan had a personal hearing/appeal last night, having been given notice of his ban before so dont think Frank the W*%$ can get him off on this one. Then again if he could get Lynch off.
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Post by dkky on Aug 17, 2006 15:04:21 GMT
Are Kerry seniors training in Killarney tonight?
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Post by kerrygold on Aug 17, 2006 15:08:01 GMT
i think their going bowling to night.
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Post by butchy on Aug 17, 2006 15:31:51 GMT
Its actually pitch and putt in the gleneagle !!
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Post by kerrywoman on Aug 17, 2006 15:37:33 GMT
Its actually pitch and putt in the gleneagle !! Cud you please let me know if they are not training as my hubby is on his way down from Limerick to see them
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Post by butchy on Aug 17, 2006 15:41:30 GMT
As far as i know they are training !!
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kerrywoman
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Post by kerrywoman on Aug 17, 2006 15:43:23 GMT
Thanks Butch
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Post by kerrydoc on Aug 17, 2006 15:48:00 GMT
hows about this for a chant we can hopefully use towards the end of the match - "who put the rebels out?" to the tune of "who let the dogs out" ... just a thought
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Post by kerryeye on Aug 17, 2006 15:50:51 GMT
It says in the papers that they were trainin last night and that it was an open session to the public, they would hardly be goin again tonight.
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Post by Owenabue on Aug 17, 2006 15:51:56 GMT
hows about this for a chant we can hopefully use towards the end of the match - "who put the rebels out?" to the tune of "who let the dogs out" ... just a thought You haven’t won yet…. Just a thought ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png)
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Post by breakball on Aug 17, 2006 16:08:58 GMT
just a quick thought. are we going into this one with the same over-confdence we had back in july? cork had a game plan that put us to the test on 2 occasions this summer. their forwards are fresher and hungrier and faster than armagh. our full back line didnt exactly cober themselves n glory the last day. if it goes to the wire, will we have enough in the legs???
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Post by twohands on Aug 17, 2006 16:17:51 GMT
just a quick thought. are we going into this one with the same over-confdence we had back in july? quote] Not at all breakball. Ye're only predicting victory by five or six this time.
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Post by kerryman on Aug 17, 2006 16:22:48 GMT
cork had a game plan that put us to the test on 2 occasions this summer..... our full back line didnt exactly cover themselves n glory the last day. I've been saying that here for the last 2 weeks on here, especially about our back line being very poor against Armagh. There's a couple of our lads in the backs that are lucky to be starting on Sunday. I hope Jack will have had a few strong words with them coming into this match.
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Post by breakball on Aug 17, 2006 16:38:29 GMT
i was fairly surprised that mikke mac lasted the full game aganst armagh. in fairness to mossie, he should have got the second half. hes a sticky marker and could have done a job on stephen mc donn switching tom to full back. its an area we need to improve on in all serousness. donnacha connor gets a lot of ball, hasnt done much with it in the last 2 games, but he could this time
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Post by kerryeye on Aug 17, 2006 16:53:04 GMT
I was very surprised mossie didnt get any run,tom sullivan and mike mc were both lucky to last 70 mins and i feel that mossie is worth his place on this team before tom,hasnt put a foot wrong all year and was a made a scapegoat for a horrible team performance at the start of the drawn munster final and hasnt been given a chance to win his place back.Tom has been all over the place in the last two games and there are obvious question marks over his discipline aswell.
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