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Post by austinstacksabu on Aug 7, 2006 13:08:06 GMT
Well, not sure I'd change the team now to be honest.
Will Cork bring Nicolas Murphy back to patrol Kieran Donaghy? Anthony Lynch is too small to mark him me thinks.
Interesting days ahead and only two weeks until we get another crack at the old enemy!
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Post by tyronelad on Aug 7, 2006 13:21:11 GMT
kerry will win by 6 or 7 points. I just dont know how this cork team have got so far? they are a very average team. what are the chances of a kerry v laois final. it is very possible as dublin are very much over rated and laois cud take them if they met again. also wud be very interesting considering it is mickos last ever game and would be against his beloved kingdom!
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Post by austinstacksabu on Aug 7, 2006 13:27:56 GMT
Two men won the game for Cork on Saturday, Spillane and Murphy. They were the biggest threat against Kerry in both the drawn and the replayed Munster final also. Stopping them will be cruical. Spillane got the better of Declan O'Sullivan - will he get the better of Eoin Brosnan. Will Seamus Moynihan stop both of them driving through the centre from midfield?
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 7, 2006 15:00:29 GMT
Ger Spillane is some player ........
Its a pity we cant meet in the final......
Under the current set up the provincial finalists can NEVER meet in a final........
Thats wrong....Colm O Rourke was on about this on saturday too...
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Post by redbag on Aug 7, 2006 19:17:29 GMT
Only changes I'd make would be Sheehan for MFR and Darren Sull for Paul Galvin... We absolutely need a reliable place kicker. Not a great game by Cork the last day, strange how they seem to look very ordinary in Croker these last few years. You can be sure, they will be highly motivated for this one though!
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 7, 2006 20:43:03 GMT
Will Galvin be suspended fot the next game?
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Post by KevinT on Aug 7, 2006 21:03:42 GMT
Not as it stands . It was a second yellow, however when the CDC look at it they may decide to take it further , considering his previous 6 month ban.
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Post by RashersTierney on Aug 7, 2006 21:22:47 GMT
kerry will win by 6 or 7 points. I just dont know how this cork team have got so far? they are a very average team. what are the chances of a kerry v laois final. it is very possible as dublin are very much over rated and laois cud take them if they met again. also wud be very interesting considering it is mickos last ever game and would be against his beloved kingdom! :POh my Jaysus, dont make me puke will yis! Just the thought of all that smug mutual satisfaction & congratulations if Kerry get to play Laois is enough to make me leave the country. Worse than that, a nice handy Sam for yis. Feck sake, please not Laois-Kerry Never fear, Mayo will do for them, unless McDonald finally gets back to pre-injury form. Yer man Sheehan is a bit of a headless chicken at times, lots of effort but...............
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Post by Owenabue on Aug 7, 2006 22:18:43 GMT
kerry will win by 6 or 7 points. I just dont know how this cork team have got so far? they are a very average team. what are the chances of a kerry v laois final. it is very possible as dublin are very much over rated and laois cud take them if they met again. also wud be very interesting considering it is mickos last ever game and would be against his beloved kingdom! :POh my Jaysus, dont make me puke will yis! Just the thought of all that smug mutual satisfaction & congratulations if Kerry get to play Laois is enough to make me leave the country. Worse than that, a nice handy Sam for yis. Feck sake, please not Laois-Kerry Never fear, Mayo will do for them, unless McDonald finally gets back to pre-injury form. Yer man Sheehan is a bit of a headless chicken at times, lots of effort but............... Think you'll find harps isn't from Kerry at all. Those wise people in Kerry know to call a scoreline two weeks before a game would be a tad ahead of themselves. Anyway, I thought the other teams were only there to make up numbers as as far as most of Ireland are concerned Dublin have the All Ireland won already.
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Post by sullyschoice on Aug 7, 2006 22:38:36 GMT
Owenabue
Kerry will winthe semi, of that I have no doubt. Your chances went when Canty got injured. Interesting who you put on Donaghy. If you use Murphy then you will be over - run at midfield. Terrible dilemma for Billy, god bless him.
Kerry by at least 7 points.
Mayo to beat Laois.
Dublin to beat Laois and then the dream prospect of Kerry V Dubs. Back to the good old days of the 70's and 80's.
Its what dreams are made of
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Post by RashersTierney on Aug 8, 2006 0:47:01 GMT
Owenabue Kerry will winthe semi, of that I have no doubt. Your chances went when Canty got injured. Interesting who you put on Donaghy. If you use Murphy then you will be over - run at midfield. Terrible dilemma for Billy, god bless him. Kerry by at least 7 points. Mayo to beat Laois.
Dublin to beat Laois and then the dream prospect of Kerry V Dubs. Back to the good old days of the 70's and 80's. Its what dreams are made of Kerry to beat Laois too? Jaysus, poor Micko! Laois getting beat by everyone! Cork wont have it so easy against Kerry this time........
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Post by Owenabue on Aug 8, 2006 7:48:40 GMT
At a guess I would presume Cork would have Kavanagh marking Donaghy. The Murphy suggestion is just some silly thing the media came up with. It would make more sense to win the ball in midfield then moving Murphy back there and trying to win it there. On the law of averages, it’s too late at that stage anyway.
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Post by animal on Aug 8, 2006 8:47:33 GMT
Yeah Kavanagh on Star. Cork will really miss Canty now. Anyone else get the feeling we're in for a bad tempered game? Couple of red cards me thinks which would be a real pain for whichever team progresses.
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Post by ruralgaa on Aug 8, 2006 10:58:17 GMT
full back line should have tightened up by the time this game rolls around. were up against the best in the biz last sat but were still lose...marc's one lapse in the game is when he got caught ball watching for the goal. still they can take solace from the fact that masters was well shackeled sat and the other cork forwards didn't pose that big a threat.
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Post by eastciarrai on Aug 8, 2006 11:18:03 GMT
Two men won the game for Cork on Saturday, Spillane and Murphy. They were the biggest threat against Kerry in both the drawn and the replayed Munster final also. Stopping them will be cruical. You can add masters to that list surely, he could easily 5 or 6 points .you stop him and break even midfield you win the game. Team to stay the same. darren to be supersub and sheehan if mfr isnt working and every frees going wide. is canty a definite injury i remember players under billy making miracle recoverys to play in old days.
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Post by Owenabue on Aug 8, 2006 11:26:05 GMT
Canty is definately out. If he comes back twould be up there with Jesus rising from the dead.
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Post by kerryman on Aug 8, 2006 11:29:14 GMT
Some very short memories here. Kerry played 4 bad games on the trot this year before playing OK against Longford and then very well against Armagh. Complacency has cost us before and this tripe of categorically stating that we'll beat Cork by 6 or 7 points has to stop.
Jack will almost certainly start the same 15 for this. Very hard on Cork that Canty is out of action, but perhaps what goes around comes around after they broke the rules to get Lynch in for the Munster replay.
Finally, from "de papur": Croker the only venue for semi-final By Brendan Larkin GAA bosses have dismissed any suggestions that the Cork and Kerry All-Ireland SFC semi-final would be played outside of Croke Park.
GAA spokesman Fergal McGill said: “Tradition says all semi-finals and finals should be played at headquarters. The question of attendance would also be a serious consideration. From experience, a game of this magnitude would draw over 50,000 spectators and I don’t think it is a runner to play that semi-final anywhere but Croke Park.”
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Post by ruralgaa on Aug 8, 2006 11:33:57 GMT
Cork footballers should bring Ó hAilpín in to tackle Donaghy ADVERTISEMENT
SO what would you do if you faced Billy Morgan's challenge?
He has kept Cork unbeaten in the championship, steered them into an All-Ireland semi-final, structured them so well that they conceded five points less in two full games against Kerry than Armagh did in one game, and yet he's being told that they will be demolished by the Kingdom next Sunday week.
Really? Isn't the sound of certainty a harmonious treat for underdog ears at any stage of the championship? Seán Boylan yesterday described this year's campaign as one of the most unpredictable for years and believes that it could continue to throw out unexpected results.
"Once a season takes that sort of shape, it often goes the same way right to the end. I'd be surprised if all the favourites won the rest of the games," he said.
Still, there's a very strong view that having stabilised over the past two Saturdays with wins over Longford and Armagh, Kerry will wreak serious revenge on Cork.
The prospect of Kieran Donaghy's imposing presence near the Cork square has sounded the alarm bells so loudly that suggesting ways of curbing him will be a big Leeside hobby over the next 12 days.
Bring Nicholas Murphy, one of the game's best jumpers, back from midfield? It might work in fetching terms, but there's more to defensive work than high fielding. Besides, Cork need Murphy at midfield and, on occasions, further forward.
So is there an answer to the Donaghy riddle? How about copying what International Rules manager Pete McGrath did two years ago and coax Seán Óg Ó hAilpín out of football retirement?
The more elitist section of the Cork hurling support will be outraged by the suggestion that anything should interfere with Ó hAilpín's preparations for the three-in-a-row charge.
However, there's more on offer for Cork this year than the hurling treble. A hurling-football double, last achieved of course by Cork in 1990, is still a realistic target, so Morgan is entitled to do whatever it takes to strengthen his squad.
It might sound crazy to suggest that Ó hAilpín could slot into the football team at the semi-final stage after being out for so long, but he's such an exceptional athlete it might well be worth a try.
The Cork footballers have done exceptionally well to reach the semi-final but with Graham Canty, their defensive strongman, out injured they need a fresh impetus for the third clash with Kerry, especially now that Donaghy is making such an impact.
Ó hAilpín could be the man to provide it. The hurlers would probably bristle at the suggestion of Ó hAilpín playing football, but when the prize is so big, it's worth taking a chance.
Especially when a Kerry team is coming your way with menace on their minds and revenge in their souls.
Martin Breheny
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Post by Owenabue on Aug 8, 2006 11:44:12 GMT
Cork footballers should bring Ó hAilpín in to tackle Donaghy ADVERTISEMENT SO what would you do if you faced Billy Morgan's challenge? He has kept Cork unbeaten in the championship, steered them into an All-Ireland semi-final, structured them so well that they conceded five points less in two full games against Kerry than Armagh did in one game, and yet he's being told that they will be demolished by the Kingdom next Sunday week. Really? Isn't the sound of certainty a harmonious treat for underdog ears at any stage of the championship? Seán Boylan yesterday described this year's campaign as one of the most unpredictable for years and believes that it could continue to throw out unexpected results. "Once a season takes that sort of shape, it often goes the same way right to the end. I'd be surprised if all the favourites won the rest of the games," he said. Still, there's a very strong view that having stabilised over the past two Saturdays with wins over Longford and Armagh, Kerry will wreak serious revenge on Cork. The prospect of Kieran Donaghy's imposing presence near the Cork square has sounded the alarm bells so loudly that suggesting ways of curbing him will be a big Leeside hobby over the next 12 days. Bring Nicholas Murphy, one of the game's best jumpers, back from midfield? It might work in fetching terms, but there's more to defensive work than high fielding. Besides, Cork need Murphy at midfield and, on occasions, further forward. So is there an answer to the Donaghy riddle? How about copying what International Rules manager Pete McGrath did two years ago and coax Seán Óg Ó hAilpín out of football retirement? The more elitist section of the Cork hurling support will be outraged by the suggestion that anything should interfere with Ó hAilpín's preparations for the three-in-a-row charge. However, there's more on offer for Cork this year than the hurling treble. A hurling-football double, last achieved of course by Cork in 1990, is still a realistic target, so Morgan is entitled to do whatever it takes to strengthen his squad. It might sound crazy to suggest that Ó hAilpín could slot into the football team at the semi-final stage after being out for so long, but he's such an exceptional athlete it might well be worth a try. The Cork footballers have done exceptionally well to reach the semi-final but with Graham Canty, their defensive strongman, out injured they need a fresh impetus for the third clash with Kerry, especially now that Donaghy is making such an impact. Ó hAilpín could be the man to provide it. The hurlers would probably bristle at the suggestion of Ó hAilpín playing football, but when the prize is so big, it's worth taking a chance. Especially when a Kerry team is coming your way with menace on their minds and revenge in their souls. Martin Breheny >:(I cannot find words to describe how mad this article makes me. Seriously, not only is it giving the Cork football team no respect but do you not think it also gives the other 14 players on the Kerry team no respect for what they are doing either.
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Post by eastciarrai on Aug 8, 2006 11:46:15 GMT
Canty is definately out. If he comes back twould be up there with Jesus rising from the dead. thanks owen. its like electro shock therapy when youre stung you rarely forget. 6 or 7 points sounds a bit much. it could happen on a good day for us but cork will be a big test again. people talk here like Cork will just lie down and be happy. billys laughing he still the underdog despite kerry failing to beat them twice. he said something about if it was 15 last time he'd be happy with 12 this time. this is a better cork team with a smart manager who's seen it all before. its great news for us that cantys out. he's a good player for them.
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Post by Owenabue on Aug 8, 2006 12:03:26 GMT
I wouldn't describe it as good news about Canty!
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Post by watchdahop on Aug 8, 2006 13:05:27 GMT
The players head will be right for Cork. Its fine for us on this forum to blow about what the score will be. The players won't be complacent. They will feel they owe Cork one and won't be taking anything for granted. It won't matter to them what the media say either: I mean they were written off before Armagh why should they start taking heed now. Billy will have his homework done for Kerry but we will have a lot of homework done too.
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Post by eastciarrai on Aug 8, 2006 13:08:43 GMT
ah you know what i mean. im not happy about him getting injured but it improves our chances of winning the game. he a great player. get well soon canty. you got to carefull with the wording round here
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Post by Owenabue on Aug 8, 2006 13:15:53 GMT
Sorry, I meant from a Cork perspective. Hopefully he'll be okay.
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Post by eastciarrai on Aug 8, 2006 15:28:19 GMT
yes from a cork perspective it would bad. he could have done a decent job on donaghty
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Post by Cornelius on Aug 8, 2006 15:45:58 GMT
appears tha the minor game will be on before hand
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Post by branch on Aug 8, 2006 16:04:22 GMT
I think Kerry should stay with the same team as the last day against Armagh, the only doubt would maybe be Mike Frank, but he might come out guns blazing, he has a massive point to prove to all his doubters! I think they will bring Kavanagh back on Donaghy, taking Murphy out of the middle would leave Kerry dominating out there. Cork were very average against Donegal, but we should not be complacent, a Kerry-Cork game is always a different story!!
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Post by eastciarrai on Aug 8, 2006 16:16:03 GMT
appears tha the minor game will be on before hand its no harm. there was no game on before either the longford or armagh game.A good minor game could warm things up nicely.
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Post by outsider23 on Aug 8, 2006 16:38:55 GMT
What I saw in the Kerry - Armagh game last Saturday reminded me a lot of the Cork-Kerry semi-final last year.. The Kerry midfield and half-back line had an awful lot of time to kick accurate (albeit high) passes into the full-forward line.. its very hard to defend when the ball going in is very good.
How much bigger is the Croke Park surface compared to Pairc Ui Chaoimh and Fitzgerald Stadium.. Kerry seem a completely different team with the extra space... they thrive on it!!
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Post by RashersTierney on Aug 8, 2006 20:39:01 GMT
It'll be tight.........but in the last couple of minutes Kerry will tag on the vital scores. In desperation Cork Coach, the Pirate William Morgan, raises the Jolly Roger & brings in secret weapons Graham Canty, Setanta, Sonia, Dearbhla, Gareth Towey, Keano, Dave Barry, and their late transfer from Donegal, Rory Gallagher. Cork win by 1 point. ;D Subsequently they are disqualified because Gallagher was cup-tied. The Capo de tuti Capi Frank Murphy sings the blues and the match is replayed. Result: Cork 0-9 Kerry 5-16 Brendan Hackett offers 11-4 on the above happening, but you could get 11-2 in Joxer's turf accountants, Ballymun
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