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Post by Weeshie on Aug 7, 2006 20:25:39 GMT
Out of the four quarter-finals this weekend, I predict: Ballyheigue V Causeway - Ballyheigue Kilmoyley V Crotta - Kilmoyley Abbeydorney V St Brendan's - St Brendan's (the closest of all the games) Lixnaw V Ballyduff - Lixnaw
After that it depends on the draw for the semi-finals
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Post by mossie on Aug 9, 2006 12:10:20 GMT
Ballyheigue to beat Causeway in low scoring encounter. If Dooley is out injured Causeway are in big trouble.
kilmoyley to beat Crotta by 7 pr 8pts.
O'Dorney v Ardfert is an interesting game. I fancy Egan, Darren Dineen to get enough scores to see off O'Dorney.
Lixnaw v Ballyduff , I fancy Lixnaw just about though it looks like they will field minus John Griffin & the Kerry footballers. In their favour Ballyduff have a lot of injuries.
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Post by homerj on Aug 13, 2006 20:58:16 GMT
any1 know how the duffers v lixnaw went tonight? surprised given the 4 games that were on offer, there was no posts on this thread over the last 3 or 4 days.
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Post by driveon on Aug 13, 2006 22:15:50 GMT
Results from the weekend:
Ballyheigue V Causeway – Causeway by a point Kilmoyley V Crotta – Kilmoyley by 5 points Abbeydorney V St Brendan's – Draw 1.13 each Lixnaw V Ballyduff – ballyduff by a few points
Semi-final draw
Kilmoyley V Ballyduff Abbeydorney/St Brendan's V causeway
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Post by mossie on Aug 15, 2006 12:26:35 GMT
The standard of the hurling was pretty poor. the fact that the games were close kept them interesting.
Ballyheigue pucked too many wides to get over Causway. Crotta didnt deserve to lose by 5 points to Kilmoyley. Tom Cronin was superb & Brian Neenan had Crotta well prepared. Kilmoyley looked dead. Is the hunger gone???
O'Dorney & Ardfert provided the best hurling & entertainment in the 2nd half. John Egan go an equalising free & the likes of Eamon Corridan & Sean Flaherty were superb. It was hard to believe Ardfert were left looking for an equaliser 6 mins into injury time having led by 8 pts early in the 2nd half!!!
Lixnaw & Ballyduff was a big disappointment. Ballyduff fully deserved the win. Liam Boyle was superb in his new role at centre back & John Paul Leahy & Bobby Sullivan took the Lixnaw defence apart with their pace. They will be favourites against Kilmoyley.
I bet the county board are delighted with the draw. A kilmoyley v Ballyduff semi final will draw a massive crowd. even folk from football areas will go to see that game
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Post by driveon on Aug 15, 2006 13:05:54 GMT
Ardfert V Abbeydorney replay fixed for 6.45 this friday
Semi-finals fixed for the weekend after!!
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 15, 2006 18:15:27 GMT
Does anyone know how many of the current kerry Senior hurling panel could not get their place on the starting line up for their clubs last wekend? A lot apparently. This explains a lot about Kerrys plight in hurling at the moment.
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Post by SteelFixer on Aug 17, 2006 0:23:20 GMT
Good point you make there 'Mick Mack' ! I was even discussing it with a fella at the game on Sunday night and we reckoned that there was one each from Ardfert, Abbeydorney and Lixnaw and two from Kilmoyley ! Two of his five saw action against Dublin in the Division 2 league final !
As for the fair that was served up over the weekend, I find it hard to think of a word to sum it up best, but the words appaling, atrocious, diabolical and brutal spring to mind ! Even Ardfert and Abbeydorney, which was considered the best game of the weekend was of very poor quality, although there was great effort and committment shown by both sides ! Ballyduff and Lixnaw, which was billed as the tie of the round was septic stuff altogether ! The first touch and skill levels of the players over the weekend was dreadful and hit a new low for as long as I have been watching Kerry hurling ! There were a few exceptions, with the likes of Bobby Sullivan, John Paul Leahy and Tom Cronin all accquitting themselves very well, but these were few and far between! Up until the late 1990's, the standard of club hurling in the county was someway reaonable, but since then it has nosedived and is currently in freefall !
Maurice Leahy, Jerry Molineaux and the county board can go on the radio and in the papers and argue differently, and say that we have great hurlers in the county...bla,bla,bla..... but the proof of the matter is in what we saw last weekend ! There is no quick fix solution to this matter and it is very hard to know how we should counteract this slide, but the first thing that should happen is that the powers in charge should realise and acknowledge how bad a state Kerry hurling is in, and build from there ! Denial and pretending we are better than we actually are will get us nowhere !
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 17, 2006 21:37:21 GMT
Are you old enough to remember Billy McCarthy, Jamesy McGrath, Tom McGrath, Todd Nolan, Willie Maguire, Michael Hennessy............ maybe it was bad then too but I dont think so......
The next wave saw DJ Leahy, Sean Flaherty etc.
Apart from Shane Brick there are few outstanding players now.
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Post by SteelFixer on Aug 18, 2006 1:11:48 GMT
I'd be more the generation in between 'DJ Leahy & Sean Fla etc and the current crop ! Of the fellas I played with and came up against the best would have been; John and Mike Hennessey, Brendan Sullivan, John Healy, Christy Walsh, Maurice McCarthy and JP Hickey ! There are a few more I could throw in there, but these would be most of them ! The best player though I ever came across on the Kerry hurling field though was Pa Rourke from Ballyduff ! He was a cut above everyone else in Kerry hurling ! I'm convinced that in his heyday in the early/mid 90's he would have made the great Clare, Limerick and Offaly teams of that period ! He had an incredible engine, something similar to Pat Spillane's and his first touch and skill levels were immaculate ! He also had the ability to always pick out the right pass and he rarely wasted good possesion ! Two other men I'd like to make mention of are Kevin McKenna and John Edwards from Crotta, who were part of their teams that went to the county finals in 1998 & 99 ! Most people on the forum would'nt have heard of these two ! McKenna was a fullback in the old style ! He was fierce effective ! You would'nt dare put your hand up to catch a ball ! He would have fitted in well in Tipperary's ' Hells Kitchen of the 50's ! But dont get me wrong, he was'nt dirty ! Just if the ball was there he would do what it takes to get it ! Edwards on the other hand was a corner forward ! He had a deadly eye for goal, and had a great positional sense and anticipation of breaking ball around the square ! As far as I know one season he scored around 20 goals and he banged in a couple of goals in the two or three county finals he played in !
One thing I have noticed down the years is that we have always produced good goalies ! When you see the likes of Limerick, Galway and Waterford having big problems with their goalkeepers over the last few years, we always seem to have good netminders at our disposal and in reserve !
I dont want to sound too hard on the current bunch of players in the county, but as I alluded too on my previous post, the standard of hurling is at an all time low ! In the late 90's and at the start of this decade we had promising underage teams, but this has all seemed to evaporate ! People will have different opinions on why this happened ! But I feel that far too much emphasis was placed on competing in and winning All-Ireland 'B' competions ! A lot of people will argue with me over this, and fair enough, but in the long run I am convinced it lowered our standards, and more importantly it lowered the ambitions of some of our promising youngsters !
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Post by realist on Aug 18, 2006 12:12:02 GMT
Steelfixer I'd say the Sean Flaherty Mickmac is talking about isn't the same guy you call "Sean Fla". But some of your other points I find interesting. But if we are to play A competitions the coaching must start from an early age. The great team that we had with the DJ'S, Mike Casey, Christy Walsh, John Hennessy, Brendan Mahoney etc all played at a time when all that was really played in Kerry was football and hurling and hurling was a distant second but you did have a stronghold of clubs. Nowadays these clubs have to deal with theie players playing soccer(AC Athletic won 2 cup competions this year, Ratoo play premiership in Kerry anf Fenit take from Ardfert) , golf, basketball etc etc/ Hurling is in decline because we just dont have the numbers playing the game. And those that are dont put in as much comittment as years ago with all the other sports and distractions nowadays!
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Post by moth on Aug 18, 2006 15:03:45 GMT
Quarter finals were poor, but it's hard to understand why. I know that a number of the younger players have been away this summer, but we still expect better. Hard to know whether Crotta are that much better or Kilmoyley were that much worse. Wasn't at the Sunday match, but from what I've read it was no better than the other 3. Still at least 4 more games to go, so hopefully these will be better.
As for county players not making club teams, we all know one of the reasons why this is so. Another might be injuries or absences.
Finally, realist is correct. We need top quality coaches from an early age, no matter what competition we play in. Given the current gulf between us and the other 5 munster counties, we need to be playing in the B grade.
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 18, 2006 20:25:06 GMT
The Brendans minor team of 2005 was exceptional........... it will be interesting to see how many are playing senior in 2011
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Post by SteelFixer on Aug 19, 2006 0:25:52 GMT
Dont worry 'Realist', I know the Seanie Fla 'MickMac' was referring to ! A small guy from Lixnaw, mad into greyhounds ! The other Seanie Fla should stick to the football, given the way Tony Maunsell (who must be nearing the OAP stage) had him in his pocket tonight !
Talking of that game, it was once again a very exciting contest, with a lot of endeavour and heart shown by both sides ! Ardfert missed a lot of good scoring oppurtunities and will feel they threw it away in many respects, but I feel that Abbeydorney were marginally the better side and deserved to go through ! The game was won and lost at midfield, where Abbeydorney in the second half and especially in extra time cleaned up ! Brian Donovan was once again immense along with Aidan Healy who had a stormer at centre back ! The point he got in extra time must have been from well over a hundred yards out ! A lot of Ardferts big players were dissapointing, but I was impressed by a few of their backs, like Jerry Wallace and their midfielder Darren Dineen who is very fast and had a good first half !
I'd fancy Abbeydorney now to reach the final ! The semi finals are going ahaed next weekend !
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Post by mossie on Aug 20, 2006 17:38:34 GMT
I know some of the earlier games were disappointing but remember some of senior football championship games could also be described as septic & brutal!!! I thought da replay between St Brendan's and O'Dorney was excellent. Aidan Healy's winning point was top class & Beano Donovan was superb. O'Dorney may be more than a one season wonder & will be hotly fancied to beat Causeway. For the Brendans lads well at least most of them can turn back to the football with the Brendans divisional team & Ardfert intermediate footballers. I read Johnny Conway was critical of his own side Lixnaw in the Kerryman. Lixnaw are a much weaker outfit minus Paul Galvin & Eamon Fitz. They back boned their county title winn in 1999 & 2005 while tweeky Griffin was a huge loss also. The Kilmoyley v Ballyduff semi final should see some good hurling & a great atmosphere at the park. Its a last throw of the dice for some of the older Kilmoyley players & whether they can reverse the last years result against Ballyduff remains to be seen. The 3 Boyles Liam, Aidan & Mikey mean Ballyduff are very strong up the middle & have Kilmoyley a back to hold Bobby O'Sullivan? I think Kilmoyley might just shade it. Crotta didnt get the credit they deserved for their quarter final performance. They have a lot of players off the Kerry minor hurling team that won the B title & Tom Cronin & Andrew Keane were superb on the night. Regarding skill levels I would ask what are our full time hurling coaches doing at primary & secondary schools levels if skill levels are declining despite all the extra coaching?
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Post by bannerman on Aug 27, 2006 12:05:13 GMT
Just seen the result on aertel there now..... well done to the duffers.... was anyone at the game what was it like
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 27, 2006 19:37:15 GMT
Causeway v Ballyduff in the final.
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Post by smallball on Aug 27, 2006 21:38:34 GMT
Was at both games. Ballyduff were well worth there win. Kilmoyley only scored 2 pts in second half playing with the wind.
Causeway after a shaky start came back into game well and deserved there win. The improved 200% on there performance in the 1/4's. Eamon Fitzgerald playing centre back for Causeway was outstanding in the 2nd half. Liam Boyle was probably ballyduffs best player also playing centre back.
Didnt give Causeway any chance after 1/4s but if they can play the same in a couple of weeks time it should make a cracker of a county final.
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Post by mossie on Aug 30, 2006 11:53:49 GMT
Mike Hennessy has Ballyduff playing like the old Ballyduff teams. He seems to know what makes them tick. I read in the Kerryman he was alluding that Ballyduff is a hurling place 1st & foremost. Easy know hurling is his 1st love even though he played football as well.
Getting back to the Kilmoyley game, Ballyduff deserved their win. Gary O'Brien & Bobby O'Sullivan were dangerous up front & Aidan Boyle infleuntial at midfield. Interestingly the 3 men marking them were Kilmoyley's best players Sean Griffin, James McCarthy & Maurice Murnane. Shane Brick really had to plough a lone furrow up front & Kilmoyley will not be back unless they find forwards to help him.
Causeway were most deserving winners over Abbeydorney. John Mike Dooley as ever was lethal in front of goal for them. They will be underdogs in the final but they will relish the tag
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Post by roadbridge on Sept 1, 2006 15:10:49 GMT
I’ll be backing Causeway for the final
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Post by apocalypseanois on Sept 5, 2006 12:05:17 GMT
I suppose Ballyduff will be favourites for the final, but I dont think the favourites tag means anything in Kerry championship hurling. I think Ballyduff will still win though but I'd be surprised if there was more than 2 scores in it.
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Post by seamus on Sept 11, 2006 10:31:17 GMT
Congrats to Ballyduff on a well deserved win. I am not a big hurling fan but i went along yesterday and it was reasonable fare for the nuetral. The joy of victory is always the same!
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Post by buck02 on Sept 11, 2006 10:56:00 GMT
Listened to it on the radio, can anybody who was actually there comment on the incident with about 10 mins to go that the guy on radio kerry kept describing as "oh its kicking off now!"
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Post by nk05 on Sept 11, 2006 13:46:29 GMT
Well done 2 Ballyduff,there b no football 4 them 4 a while
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Post by seamus on Sept 11, 2006 14:06:11 GMT
Not even for the North Kerry Championship?? I thought that was addictive stuff...!!!!
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Post by bannerman on Sept 11, 2006 20:48:58 GMT
Not even nk champ.... they looking for scalp in munster club and they could get it if they knuckle down and get limerick or clare champs at home
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Post by headtheball on Sept 11, 2006 23:23:15 GMT
Well done Ballyduff
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Post by nk05 on Sept 12, 2006 10:32:41 GMT
I think there was plenty of fat frogs drank in ballyduff the last 2 days & it wont finish yet,fair play 2 them anyway,they deserve it
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Post by mossie on Sept 14, 2006 12:43:30 GMT
Another huge attendance at the county senior hurling final. this event seems to be getting bigger every year. Given the poor shape of the Kerry senior hurling team & the fact that outside of the North Kerry clubs hurling is only really strong in Kenmare & Kilgarvan, the attendances at the finals is amazing. I thought there was a great buzz at the game last sunday & Ballyduff were deserving winners. The insurance points scored by Aidan Boyle & Mike Hennessy were top class & they look like a side that are going to be around for a long time. Former Kerry minor dual player Barry O'Grady just back from injury more than justified his call up with 3 excellent points & Bobby O'Sullivan produced the scores again. Causeway contributed to a great game which I am sure is no consolation to them. Kilgarvan scored a long overdue success in the intermediate final.
all in all the day was a great advertisment for kerry hurling. people can knock the standard all they want but I think everyone got value for money in the Park last Sunday.
by the way who did the commentary on the radio???
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