madmac999
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Post by madmac999 on Jan 12, 2006 20:37:41 GMT
Just thinking there recently is Tomas O Se a better footballer than Paudi ever was
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Post by kerrygold on Jan 13, 2006 0:16:45 GMT
No.
paudi conceded 1 pt. in 9 all-ireland finals and 1 goal and 1 pt. in 10 all-ireland finals= 4 pts in 700 plus minutes of all-ireland football,beat that.
tomas's man scored 3 pt.s in 15 minutes of all-ireland football in 2005.
enough said.
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madmac999
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Post by madmac999 on Jan 13, 2006 9:55:25 GMT
Good call Kerrygold.. but did Paudi ever pull the game out of the fire when it was in the balance like Tomas does.. thinking of Cork this year in munster championship.. That run and point he scored was inspirational.
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Post by FatTom on Jan 13, 2006 10:51:25 GMT
True plus Paidi had better players around him too so his man was likely to get less chances anayway.
At same time I'd still go with Paidi as that record is phenomenal.
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Post by FatTom on Jan 13, 2006 10:52:14 GMT
I voted for can't compare as both come from different generations of the game and the styles they play and come up against are totally different.
Essentially I don't think Tomas would be as good a player in the 70s as Paidi was whereas if Paidi was playing now I don't think he would be as good as Tomas in the current game.
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Post by fiorgael on Jan 13, 2006 11:49:20 GMT
Different era.Cant compare both players. Both outstanding players and servants to the county in their own right.
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madmac999
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Post by madmac999 on Jan 13, 2006 11:59:37 GMT
Good shout FT. Don't want to take anything away from either player, I know we are talking about different era's and all but you often hear the comment "Tomas is exactly like Paudi"... when in fact he is not.. Two very different players not much similar about them at all me thinks.
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Post by kerrygold on Jan 13, 2006 13:39:29 GMT
Good call Kerrygold.. but did Paudi ever pull the game out of the fire when it was in the balance like Tomas does.. thinking of Cork this year in munster championship.. That run and point he scored was inspirational. ya,take your point,tomas was superb when kerry were chasing the game at the end,but if his attention to detail in marking his man were paidi like and exacuted as ruthlessly as paidi would have in his hayday his man wouldn't have scored 3 pionts so quickly and it might have been a differnt game. |
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Post by buck02 on Jan 13, 2006 15:48:36 GMT
As already stated its difficult to compare players from different generations. Paidi played wing and corner back when his opponents stated in those positions. I doubt he'd have that record in todays type of game. I think in terms of pure footballing ability i feel that Tomas shades it. Doubt Paidi would have got scores like the goal v Westmeath in the league, that point against Cork or the goal against Tyrone. And theres still 6 or 7 years left in him.
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Post by kerrygold on Jan 14, 2006 19:05:52 GMT
As already stated its difficult to compare players from different generations. Paidi played wing and corner back when his opponents stated in those positions. I doubt he'd have that record in todays type of game. I think in terms of pure footballing ability i feel that Tomas shades it. Doubt Paidi would have got scores like the goal v Westmeath in the league, that point against Cork or the goal against Tyrone. And theres still 6 or 7 years left in him. some good points there buck02,i dont recall seeing paidi attacking on a regular basis,he priority was always to mind the house.I know there different era's but paidi was so tigerish in defence i wouldn't put it passed him to have a very good defensive record in the modern game.I agree tomas has more footballing skills but i think paidi was a better defender over all,two class performers all the same,as regards to two diffferent era's the old kerry team played in a very real era all the same,good hard competive football played by very real people,i wouldn't take anything away from their acheivements.They were the best of their time. |
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Post by kerryman on Jan 15, 2006 15:59:46 GMT
Can't compare them to be honest. Tom Sullivan and Aiden O Mahony are more like Paidi (but he was better than both).
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Post by seamus on Jan 17, 2006 15:09:50 GMT
Paidi's record speaks for itself and must be considered better than Tomas on all fronts.
1. Medals - no comparison - but i accept paidi played on a better team
2. Big day performances - conceding 1 pt in 9 All Irelands is phenomenal no matter what the era. Remember teams scored quite heavily against kerry in many of those finals.
3. Scoring - i may be corrected on these but i believe paidi scored quite heavily while he was wing back for kerry and was equally as good as tomas at attacking in his younger days.
4. Temperment - Paidi was an animal and knew how to pysche opponents off their game (joe mcnally and dinny allen spring to mnd). He rarely played bad on a big day.
5. Football skills - hard to call
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Post by kerrygold on Jan 17, 2006 16:40:23 GMT
Paidi's record speaks for itself and must be considered better than Tomas on all fronts. 1. Medals - no comparison - but i accept paidi played on a better team 2. Big day performances - conceding 1 pt in 9 All Irelands is phenomenal no matter what the era. Remember teams scored quite heavily against kerry in many of those finals. 3. Scoring - i may be corrected on these but i believe paidi scored quite heavily while he was wing back for kerry and was equally as good as tomas at attacking in his younger days. 4. Temperment - Paidi was an animal and knew how to pysche opponents off their game (joe mcnally and dinny allen spring to mnd). He rarely played bad on a big day. 5. Football skills - hard to call Spot on seamus,i couldn't agree more,well said,paidi and denihan were two savages on that right hand side,going down the fight flank was like meeting two lions at the entrance to a narrow cave,throw in the horse (RIP),serious defenders. i'd fancy them big time to beat either armagh or tyrone,what do you think? |
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Post by kerryman on Jan 19, 2006 12:08:09 GMT
After watching the Kerry Golden years video, I'll agree that Paidi scored a rake of points over the years. Add to this superb foot passing ability. His man marking record speaks for itself.
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Post by Kerry4sam on Apr 17, 2006 21:57:19 GMT
NO - You can't even compare the two in my opinion...
Paidi was out-standing in his day and Tomas, today -
The game has changed since Paidi played and therefore Tomas cannot be compared as a defender to Paidi...Same ideals, same style appears at times but no, different style required today in the Kerry team.
An example of what i mean is:~ Sometimes when our forwards are having it tough against the blanket defence, our defence can often be seen bursting up to score, something that wasn't common in Paidi's time as a player, in my opinion
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