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Post by ardfertnarrie on Jul 30, 2008 11:00:58 GMT
Yep, its been confirmed. Now can we please move on.
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Post by Johnnyb on Jul 30, 2008 11:03:27 GMT
3 months - to be expected. Should have been quashed outright but that argument now needs to be put to bed.
As Dec O said from atop the hogan stand last septemeber, "Its how kerry people respond". Come on the lads, SAM 08 is yours if you want it. Lets shove it to all the ba*tards who rejoiced in an amateurs misfortune and respond the only way we know how!!!!
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Post by hurlerondfence on Jul 30, 2008 11:06:27 GMT
"Lets shove it to all the ba*tards who rejoiced in an amateurs misfortune and respond the only way we know how!!!! "
Remember Paul galvin brought al lthis on himself. Hopefully he won't forget this act of stupidity and come out of this a more mature and better player
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Post by narrie on Jul 30, 2008 11:10:00 GMT
At last, the end of the saga. Thank God it's over. Fair enough. Two months already gone and please God Galvin will get a chance to be in Croke Park in September, even for a cameo role, collecting Sam.
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Post by leixman on Jul 30, 2008 11:14:43 GMT
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Post by xxkerry4samxx on Jul 30, 2008 11:17:56 GMT
At last, the end of the saga. Thank God it's over. Fair enough. Two months already gone and please God Galvin will get a chance to be in Croke Park in September, even for a cameo role, collecting Sam. Looks like will be lifting Sam..!! 3 months...
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Post by mickthebridges on Jul 30, 2008 11:23:05 GMT
Three months from today and he must report to his local Garda Station every day. Must also surrender his passport. ;D
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Post by hatchetman on Jul 30, 2008 11:26:31 GMT
He waits; that's what he does. And I tell you what: tick followed tock followed tick followed tock followed tick... Ahab says, 'I don't care who you are, here's to your dream.' 'Here's to you, Ahab'. And the fat drummer hit the beat with all his heart.
Here's to waiting.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2008 11:37:12 GMT
The right decision in the end. Three months means he is still likely to miss the entire championship. Eevn if Kerry got to the final, Galvin would have a very limited role.
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Post by Johnnyb on Jul 30, 2008 11:41:43 GMT
Dont know about that. At least he can get back training with a target in his mind. For another days at least.
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Post by kaywhy on Jul 30, 2008 11:49:14 GMT
In a statement issued this morning the GAA confirmed that in line with direction given by the DRA, last night’s meeting of temporary members appointed to the CHC dealt with an incident involving Paul Galvin (Kerry) during the Kerry V Clare Munster Senior Football Championship game on 15 June 2008.
The following penalties were imposed;
Category I - 2nd cautionable - debarment from playing in the remainder of the game which he has already served. Category II - 4 weeks suspension in the same code and at the same level. Category IV - 12 weeks suspension in all codes at all levels.
Suspensions run concurrently and are effective from the date of the game.
The members of the Hearing Committee were Jim Berry (Wexford), Joe Flynn (Leitrim), Fintan Ginnity (Meath), Eamon McMahon (Antrim, Garrett O’ Reilly (Cavan) and Joe Taaffe (Sligo).,
The GAA will not be commenting further in the matter at this time.
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So, he remains cited for abusive language towards an official, plus minor physical interference or theatening language or abusive conduct...
...but this new committee didn't deem the offences worthy of anything other than the minimum.
And although we don't know what was said (which is important), I think most people agreed that the physical side of it didn't merit anything other than the minimum.
I wonder will he appeal it? I hope not. I hope the 3 months is accepted and served at this stage. The Co. Board stated they were supporting Paul fully because 6 months was excessive... how do they feel about 3...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2008 11:55:04 GMT
I hope no appeal either. Three months is fair. I assume Paul can't train with the panel until the three months are up.
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Post by kaywhy on Jul 30, 2008 12:09:36 GMT
I assume Paul can't train with the panel until the three months are up. No, I think he can train. We've often had players continuing to train as normal even when they were serving 1 month suspensions between games, so this isn't much different. I think its suspended from playing Football or Hurling (or Handball or Rounders for that matter!) at all levels until Sept 7th.
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Post by nicoshea on Jul 30, 2008 12:11:18 GMT
I assume Paul can't train with the panel until the three months are up. No, I think he can train. We've often had players continuing to train as normal even when they were serving 1 month suspensions between games, so this isn't much different. I think its suspended from playing Football or Hurling (or Handball or Rounders for that matter!) at all levels until Sept 7th. Suspended from Playing and Training with Club and County until the suspension is lifted, That is the rule that has been imposed for all suspensions
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Post by dano on Jul 30, 2008 12:16:28 GMT
Jack Connors story about Paul's notebook of names tells me he's capable of training on his own and being as ready as anyone for the final. There is no rule in life that sayes you can't serve your three months, then accept the cup from Brennan with a smile before turning your a--e to him and bringing it back to Finuge
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Post by kaywhy on Jul 30, 2008 12:17:53 GMT
yeah Nic, sorry, I just had a further look... Since its a category IV, he gets caught for "all functions, privileges and Competitions"... which I guess unfortunately does mean training.
We did have players training before, but that cos they only committed Cat II or III.
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A Suspension for a Category I, II, or III Misconduct at Games Infraction by Players means a Suspension from playing in Games (including Tournaments and Challenge Games) as specified, and from acting as a Referee, Umpire, Linesman or Sideline Official.
A Suspension for all other Infractions provided for in Rule or County Bye-Laws means Suspension from all functions, privileges and Competitions under the Association’s control, but not from membership of the Association.
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Post by nicoshea on Jul 30, 2008 12:21:17 GMT
yeah Nic, sorry, I just had a further look... Since its a category IV, he gets caught for "all functions, privileges and Competitions"... which probably does mean training. We did have players training before, but that cos they only committed Cat II or III. A Suspension for a Category I, II, or III Misconduct at Games Infraction by Players means a Suspension from playing in Games (including Tournaments and Challenge Games) as specified, and from acting as a Referee, Umpire, Linesman or Sideline Official. A Suspension for all other Infractions provided for in Rule or County Bye-Laws means Suspension from all functions, privileges and Competitions under the Association’s control, but not from membership of the Association. Yeah shure Paul will be fine, he will just have to train by himself. Sure he will do fine and hopefully he will accept this suspension and let it be over and done with as jonnyb said.. Let this be the driving force force behind the team for Sunday
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Post by kaywhy on Jul 30, 2008 12:24:37 GMT
Yeah Nic. No doubt.
But he better stay away from any functions or privileges run by the GAA also, cos a breach would mean a further 24 weeks...
Remember, Down assistant-manager DJ Kane was handed a further six-month ban this year for giving a half-time dressing room speech while he was already suspensed.
...As inspirational as his involvement might be, the Co. Board better keep on top of it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2008 12:55:16 GMT
"The newly-convened CHC panel found Galvin guilty of three offences but crucially on the category four offence it deemed a 12-week "suspension in all codes at all levels" sufficient." - Irsh Times
I'd love to know how the first shower cam up with six months so.
Anyway enough of it, the team needs to get on with it. 3 months is fair enough for the completely stupid action in question. Come on the Kingdom.
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Post by diehard on Jul 30, 2008 13:02:53 GMT
Let try put this thing to bed and move on
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Post by kaywhy on Jul 30, 2008 13:10:37 GMT
"The newly-convened CHC panel found Galvin guilty of three offences but crucially on the category four offence it deemed a 12-week "suspension in all codes at all levels" sufficient." - Irsh Times I'd love to know how the first shower cam up with six months so. They did the same to Finlay in doubling the minimum... and unlucky for him the DRA didn't find any procedureal issues so it could be sent it back to be reheard. Finlay called the ref 'you f***ing tramp' and they gave him 8 weeks. The DRA said - "One might have sympathy that the penalty was double the minimum. We would comment that the process would be improved if Defending Parties were given a reason (even if shortly stated) for the imposition of penalties in excess of the minimum applicable." I'm sure if last night's comm reheard the case, they might only go with four weeks. Hopefully, the original Central Hearing Committee will take both the DRA comments, and the opinions of their colleagues (in reducing Pauls) all on board when they get back to hearing new cases, and not just dish out double the minimum for everything!
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Post by hurlerondfence on Jul 30, 2008 13:35:10 GMT
I think what the GAA have to really consider bringing in is match bans instead of time suspensions. Galvin got sent off in our 1st game and is practically going to miss the whole season. Maximum he is going to play I see is maybe a 1/2 hour in the final and only if we get there and if we not going well after the 1st half.
In the World Cup for example a player might make a dity tackle in the 1st game,2 match ban once that is over free to resume after the group stages and maybe 4 games left to play.
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Post by wayupnorth on Jul 30, 2008 16:40:55 GMT
Best possible result under the circumstances.
Let's put it behind us now with no need for any more appeals. And as for the begrudgers (like the BBC NI website which is having great difficulty distinguishing between news and opinion):
May they go forth and multiply!
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Post by nicoshea on Jul 30, 2008 17:40:03 GMT
Can I just ask... Has Paul or the Kerry GAA come out and said anything on it?? Trying to get Radio Kerry up here but not working for me
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Post by nicoshea on Jul 30, 2008 18:03:13 GMT
Originally posted by redpower
I believe the technicality he got off on was the fact that the referee never actually physically showed him the red card? This is what I heard anyway. Btw where is the Dublin media now who whinged so much last year about Cork appealing their bans?!!!!
I heard that they are considering increasing his ban cause he ran off like a lunatic from Paddy Russell when he was about to show him the red card. It's a seperate offence for a player to ignore the refs actions or fail to answer his questions. The TV pictures dont show Paddy Russell raising the red card because they were following Galvin on his run to/at the unfortunate linesman, and his subsequent flake at Thomas O Sé. Not sure if the cameras caught him hitting Brosnan who first tried to talk sense to him. Big waiting list now for football referrees.- This is what they are saying on Rebel GAA.... They are furious about him been off and how its a disgrace yeadda yeadda yeadda
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Post by Owenabue on Jul 30, 2008 18:54:39 GMT
Nico, they suggests everyone on rebelgaa is furious etc, which isn't true.
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Post by inforthebreaks on Jul 30, 2008 19:03:54 GMT
dont mind them fellas nico. you will never see a more bitter and twisted shower than (many of) that crowd on rebel gaa
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Post by Mickmack on Jul 30, 2008 19:11:11 GMT
Writing in the sunday indo, Colm o Rourke summed it up perfectly.
"The GAA confused justice with cruelty"
If Donaghy deserved a month for giving the finger to a supporter who hit him with a stick...... then 3 months for Galvin........ who can argue.
I felt Donaghy should have appealed that as the protection of players is paramount.
The GAA cant overnight change the culture of 100 years. It must get the fundamentals right....... intelligent referees and linesmen and umpires.
Nicky Brennan now looks the incompetent clown that he is.
I hope he has the job of presenting the Liam McCarthy Cup to Waterford and the Sam Maguire jointly to Tomas o Se and Paul Galvin.
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Post by Riocht on Jul 30, 2008 19:33:33 GMT
Bhuel! Tá'n méid sin thart buíochas le Dia. Well done to Paul & all concerned. Now lets look forward to Sunday. Ciarraí go deo!
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Post by oh lads!!! on Jul 30, 2008 19:51:10 GMT
Originally posted by redpower
Not sure if the cameras caught him hitting Brosnan who first tried to talk sense to him. .- was this clown at the game or was he in limerick watcing cork.if he was in killarney anywat he was on something cause he was seeing things. paul may now have a big say with feale rangers.... and of course the nk championship!
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