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Post by kerryblueboy on Jan 29, 2024 19:50:53 GMT
Who is losing their nut such a sad statement people are debating what happened and why which is what a forum is for
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jan 29, 2024 20:05:49 GMT
Who is losing their nut such a sad statement people are debating what happened and why which is what a forum is for Yeah I was going to respond and didn't bother. This is a forum for opinions everyone has one if we didn't offer it than the forum wouldn't work. I haven't seen anything over the top on here.
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Post by peanuts on Jan 29, 2024 20:14:52 GMT
The referee did look to be one sided. Actually I thought Paul Murphy should have gotten a penalty between the 46th and 47th minutes. Clearly and visibly inside the square a defender made an effort to reach in and dispossess him but only succeeded in pushing Paul forward to the ground. The ref was in clear sight of it, no reaction. In the ensuing play a defender took a dive because Stephen O'Brien was thinking about tackling him. Two let offs in 4 seconds with their goal under siege? This time he threw it up. [/quote] This was right in front of me, I thought at the time it was a perfectly times shoulder, just a wee man against a more physical unit... nothing untoward in at.. Dublin Joe got that one right and the ball on the ground by Foley, he was right there too but I did think the "steps" rule went out the window at stages, in particular in the first half. Derry did kick some monster scores though, great view from the Mitchel's end. I thought the ref for Dublin and Monaghan was excellent, it was like he had no whistle at all, just let play flow... fair play to him.[/quote] Jason didn’t touch the ball on the ground. It was about 6 inches off the ground.
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Post by horsebox77 on Jan 29, 2024 20:17:24 GMT
I thought he did Peanuts, but I stand corrected.
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Post by peanuts on Jan 29, 2024 20:18:53 GMT
I thought he did Peanuts, but I stand corrected. It showed it last night on the RTE highlights
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Post by horsebox77 on Jan 29, 2024 20:22:22 GMT
I thought he did Peanuts, but I stand corrected. It showed it last night on the RTE highlights AH fair enough, I tip the cap, I stand corrected.. I suppose I should have taken into consideration, it was "Dublin Joe" I suppose...
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jan 29, 2024 20:27:59 GMT
It showed it last night on the RTE highlights AH fair enough, I tip the cap, I stand corrected.. I suppose I should have taken into consideration, it was "Dublin Joe" I suppose... Yeah I was infront of that too and it was infuriating and the linesman looking at it aswell. Having said that our goal looked like a push on Rodgers and I know that wound up the Derry fans. He's just a bad ref lads simple as.
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Post by horsebox77 on Jan 29, 2024 20:34:12 GMT
True, bad for both side, still is it not sad that a ref has to come from Cavan or Dublin for a Tralee game, I know a few lost their status due to fitness, but sill surely there are some half decent refs this side of Athlone.
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Post by southward on Jan 29, 2024 20:40:12 GMT
Funny how few Kerry refs ever seem to make it to the top level, Who was the last to get a championship game - would it be Tommy Sugrue? If so, it's a long time ago now.
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Post by horsebox77 on Jan 29, 2024 20:50:38 GMT
Ah no Pat O'Sullivan, has, Brendan Griffin is making strides, Seamus Mulvihill would be high profile enough.
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Post by chicago09 on Jan 29, 2024 20:59:50 GMT
I don’t ever try to blame the ref for anything but it’s more than fitness they should be worried about but the ref in the Kerry game reffed it differently than other game I saw. I know we were naive in our tackling but the Derry boys know how to get frees they go down very easily and I saw one from Jason and brian and the last free by Casey were very soft imo
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Post by southward on Jan 29, 2024 21:10:04 GMT
Ah no Pat O'Sullivan, has, Brendan Griffin is making strides, Seamus Mulvihill would be high profile enough. Would he though, at IC level, like? Open to correction but I've not seen it. Brendan was on on a few Div 3 league games last season but after that.... The leading hurling refs nearly always come from the leading hurling counties. Not so in football. In Leinster, they seem to come from everywhere except Dublin (though arguably a lot of them get assimilated into the capital anyway). In Kerry, likewise, elite refs have been few and far between, over recent decades anyway.
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Post by thehermit on Jan 29, 2024 22:34:06 GMT
Ah no Pat O'Sullivan, has, Brendan Griffin is making strides, Seamus Mulvihill would be high profile enough. Would he though, at IC level, like? Open to correction but I've not seen it. Brendan was on on a few Div 3 league games last season but after that.... The leading hurling refs nearly always come from the leading hurling counties. Not so in football. In Leinster, they seem to come from everywhere except Dublin (though arguably a lot of them get assimilated into the capital anyway). In Kerry, likewise, elite refs have been few and far between, over recent decades anyway. I think the Dubs had plenty of refs helping them in the last decade, honorary Dubs like
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Post by veteran on Jan 29, 2024 22:39:02 GMT
Regarding the Jason Foley “pick up” , that was not too far away from me and I felt there was plenty of daylight (artificial light) between ball and grass. Perhaps it was clearer on TV.
I don’t feel as nostalgic about Jack Barry’s departure as some people here. Jack played his best football when he arrived on the scene . He played positively then , frequently taking on his man going straight for goal and often scoring . After a while he lost that sense of adventure , preferring to pass backwards or going on an aimless solo towards the sideline. John Divilly, his manager at UCD ,some years ago said he had the potential to be one of the best midfielders in the country. I felt that was a correct assessment. The potential was there but was it coached out of him by the heavy hand of conservatism? Now , he had a couple of “ marking assignments “ against Brian Fenton, successful to a degree but of course that distinction was blown out of the water last July. The potential, as I said, was there but not realised.
Diarmuid O’ Connor is our best midfielder , why suggest an alternative position for,him?
Graham O’Sullivan for wing forward? Why shift one of our best backs. It is not as if we have good backs swinging off the rafters. This smacks of the suggestion, like Seamus Moynihan years ago,that he is wasted in the full back line. Give me a top of the range fullback line and I will tell you we have the foundation of a formidable team.
I am surprised at some people’s surprise with Sean O’Brien’s substitution the last night. I think he won the throw in and I don’t think he touched the ball subsequently. As I said on Sunday he was paralyzed with stage fright and possibly star struck by facing Conor Glass. Sean was clearly drowning and it was appropriate to remove him. This boy has genuine potential and I have no problem with him starting the next day.
Killian Spillane? We got further evidence, if it was needed, that Killian is a summer horse. He should be sprightly by March/April, weather dependent .
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Post by taggert on Jan 29, 2024 23:52:18 GMT
TV confirmed that while Foley was flat on the ground, the ball certainly was not when he touched it - it was the wrong call.
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Post by mike70 on Jan 30, 2024 6:32:38 GMT
Refs will always be a source of frustration, most times in games you win some you lose some, some days it feels your losing all the time.
I do think we can consider ourselves lucky for first goal, free out everyday of the week, with the advantage of a review of the game on TV, I still can’t confirm if Jason got a bounce on the ball or not, so to be fair, what chance had Dublin Joe.
We have highlighted our challenges from the game, so we will need to address some of these going to clones.
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Post by jackiel on Jan 30, 2024 10:57:27 GMT
My main take away from Saturday night was that our lads are too "nice", we don't have that dirty/cyncical/crafty edge that other teams (particularly those from Ulster) seem to have. The whole thing of playing down the clock when they're on a black card. A lad goes down holding his head regardless of what sort of knock he may or may not have sustained. I'm not making little of a head injury protocol but it's getting beyond a joke now. Peter Crowley was a great man for a bit of grit, played with an edge, I think Adrian Spillane could fill this role but needs to be tutored on how far to push it. I'd expect to see at least 1 Clifford on Sunday.
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Post by kerryexile on Jan 30, 2024 11:52:43 GMT
I think Sean O'Brien has potential but is not ready for intercounty at this stage. I said on Sunday that if he spent a full season with the squad he may realise that potential. He doesn't seem to read the game or to know when to commit or when to hold back. He played a lot of football in defence where where the timing is different to midfield. What he needs is on the job training, taking instructions from Paul Geaney, Diarmuid or Seanie during trial games.
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Post by oldschool on Jan 31, 2024 10:28:05 GMT
Is there or has anyone noticed an inability or reluctance to kick points from just outside the 21. I think we should be kicking points on the run from 30 yds out Dublin are pretty good at this. Some of our forwards should be made study videos of Colm Cooper in one on one situations with goalkeeper.. inability in these situations has cost us dearly
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jan 31, 2024 11:06:14 GMT
Is there or has anyone noticed an inability or reluctance to kick points from just outside the 21. I think we should be kicking points on the run from 30 yds out Dublin are pretty good at this. Some of our forwards should be made study videos of Colm Cooper in one on one situations with goalkeeper.. inability in these situations has cost us dearly I agree, I found this so frustrating on Saturday with a wind at our backs and refusing to take the shot on. Gooch said himself after that he wouldn't be offloading the ball infront of goal. That's why he was one if the greatest players because he knew his responsibility was to take those scores.
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