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Post by thehermit on Apr 20, 2023 19:22:24 GMT
Just about as strong a team as you could possibly pick:
1 (GK) Shane Ryan Seán Ó Riain Rath Mhór
2 Graham O’Sullivan Graeme Ó Súilleabháin Piarsaigh na Dromoda
3 Jason Foley Jason Ó Foghlú Baile Uí Donnachú
4 Tom O’Sullivan Tomás Ó Súilleabháin Daingean Uí Chúis
5 Paul Murphy Pol Ó Murchú Rath Mhór
6 Tadhg Morley Tadhg Ó Muraile Teampall Nua
7 Gavin White Gabhin de Faoite Dr Crócaigh
8 Diarmuid O’Connor Diarmuid Ó Conchúir Na Gaeil
9 Jack Barry Jeaic de Barra Na Gaeil
10 Dara Moynihan Dara Ó Muineacháin Spa Cill Airne
11 Seán O’Shea Seán Ó Sé An Neidín
12 Paudie Clifford Pádraig Ó Clúmháin Fosadh
13 Tony Brosnan Antóin Ó Brosnacháin Dr Crócaigh
14 David Clifford Dáithí Ó Clúmháin Fosadh
15 Paul Geaney Pól Ó Géibheannaigh Daingean Uí Chúis
16 (GK) Shane Murphy Seán Ó Murchú Dr Crócaigh
17 Dylan Casey Dylan Ó Cathasaigh Aibhistín de Staic
18 Brian Ó Beaglaíoch Brian Ó Beaglaíoch An Ghaeltacht
19 Adrian Spillane Adrian Ó Spealáin Teampall Nua
20 Barry Dan O’Sullivan Barra Ó Súilleabháin Daingean Uí Chúis
21 Ruairi Murphy Ruairí Ó Murchú Lios A’Troí
22 Killian Spillane Cillian Ó Spealáin Teampall Nua
23 Donal O’Sullivan Donal Ó Súilleabháin Cill Gharbháin
24 Micheál Burns Micheál Ó Broin Dr Crócaigh
25 Mike Breen Micheal Ó Braoin Lios an Phúca
26 Stephen O’Brien Stiofan Ó Briain An Neidín
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Post by Premier on Apr 20, 2023 19:23:59 GMT
Just about as strong a team as you could possibly pick: 1 (GK) Shane Ryan Seán Ó Riain Rath Mhór 2 Graham O’Sullivan Graeme Ó Súilleabháin Piarsaigh na Dromoda 3 Jason Foley Jason Ó Foghlú Baile Uí Donnachú 4 Tom O’Sullivan Tomás Ó Súilleabháin Daingean Uí Chúis 5 Paul Murphy Pol Ó Murchú Rath Mhór 6 Tadhg Morley Tadhg Ó Muraile Teampall Nua 7 Gavin White Gabhin de Faoite Dr Crócaigh 8 Diarmuid O’Connor Diarmuid Ó Conchúir Na Gaeil 9 Jack Barry Jeaic de Barra Na Gaeil 10 Dara Moynihan Dara Ó Muineacháin Spa Cill Airne 11 Seán O’Shea Seán Ó Sé An Neidín 12 Paudie Clifford Pádraig Ó Clúmháin Fosadh 13 Tony Brosnan Antóin Ó Brosnacháin Dr Crócaigh 14 David Clifford Dáithí Ó Clúmháin Fosadh 15 Paul Geaney Pól Ó Géibheannaigh Daingean Uí Chúis 16 (GK) Shane Murphy Seán Ó Murchú Dr Crócaigh 17 Dylan Casey Dylan Ó Cathasaigh Aibhistín de Staic 18 Brian Ó Beaglaíoch Brian Ó Beaglaíoch An Ghaeltacht 19 Adrian Spillane Adrian Ó Spealáin Teampall Nua 20 Barry Dan O’Sullivan Barra Ó Súilleabháin Daingean Uí Chúis 21 Ruairi Murphy Ruairí Ó Murchú Lios A’Troí 22 Killian Spillane Cillian Ó Spealáin Teampall Nua 23 Donal O’Sullivan Donal Ó Súilleabháin Cill Gharbháin 24 Micheál Burns Micheál Ó Broin Dr Crócaigh 25 Mike Breen Micheal Ó Braoin Lios an Phúca 26 Stephen O’Brien Stiofan Ó Briain An Neidín Who’s missing from that panel that was in and around it for the league |
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Post by clarinman on Apr 20, 2023 20:06:22 GMT
Just about as strong a team as you could possibly pick: 1 (GK) Shane Ryan Seán Ó Riain Rath Mhór 2 Graham O’Sullivan Graeme Ó Súilleabháin Piarsaigh na Dromoda 3 Jason Foley Jason Ó Foghlú Baile Uí Donnachú 4 Tom O’Sullivan Tomás Ó Súilleabháin Daingean Uí Chúis 5 Paul Murphy Pol Ó Murchú Rath Mhór 6 Tadhg Morley Tadhg Ó Muraile Teampall Nua 7 Gavin White Gabhin de Faoite Dr Crócaigh 8 Diarmuid O’Connor Diarmuid Ó Conchúir Na Gaeil 9 Jack Barry Jeaic de Barra Na Gaeil 10 Dara Moynihan Dara Ó Muineacháin Spa Cill Airne 11 Seán O’Shea Seán Ó Sé An Neidín 12 Paudie Clifford Pádraig Ó Clúmháin Fosadh 13 Tony Brosnan Antóin Ó Brosnacháin Dr Crócaigh 14 David Clifford Dáithí Ó Clúmháin Fosadh 15 Paul Geaney Pól Ó Géibheannaigh Daingean Uí Chúis 16 (GK) Shane Murphy Seán Ó Murchú Dr Crócaigh 17 Dylan Casey Dylan Ó Cathasaigh Aibhistín de Staic 18 Brian Ó Beaglaíoch Brian Ó Beaglaíoch An Ghaeltacht 19 Adrian Spillane Adrian Ó Spealáin Teampall Nua 20 Barry Dan O’Sullivan Barra Ó Súilleabháin Daingean Uí Chúis 21 Ruairi Murphy Ruairí Ó Murchú Lios A’Troí 22 Killian Spillane Cillian Ó Spealáin Teampall Nua 23 Donal O’Sullivan Donal Ó Súilleabháin Cill Gharbháin 24 Micheál Burns Micheál Ó Broin Dr Crócaigh 25 Mike Breen Micheal Ó Braoin Lios an Phúca 26 Stephen O’Brien Stiofan Ó Briain An Neidín Who’s missing from that panel that was in and around it for the league Greg Horan, Pa Warren, Jack o Shea(injured). |
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Post by horsebox77 on Apr 20, 2023 20:16:01 GMT
This might be a stupid question so forgive my ignorance. I can't make it down for Saturday so going to have to settle for GAA Go. Do you need to watch it live or can you purchase it and watch the broadcast back say an hour or two after the final whistle? Herself is demanding I traipse around the shops after her on Saturday afternoon so hoping to cocoon myself from all knowledge of the game as it progresses and then settle down and watch it in peace around 6 or 7pm that night.
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Post by horsebox77 on Apr 20, 2023 20:37:05 GMT
Team is along the expected lines, I am surprised that Jack hasn’t gone down his preferred route of playing a third midfielder on the wing, as a result three out of our four wing men are well under six feet, Clifford, Moynihan and Murphy, I think teams, clever teams have started to exploit Murphy’s height in the wing for kickouts.
I would be leaning back towards O’Beagloich and Breen first in that order. Still to be fair, the bench has strength and experience.
For me getting game time into Spillane, O’Brien and the above mentioned defenders is imperative.
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Post by The16thMan on Apr 20, 2023 21:12:49 GMT
Team is along the expected lines, I am surprised that Jack hasn’t gone down his preferred route of playing a third midfielder on the wing, as a result three out of our four wing men are well under six feet, Clifford, Moynihan and Murphy, I think teams, clever teams have started to exploit Murphy’s height in the wing for kickouts. I would be leaning back towards O’Beagloich and Breen first in that order. Still to be fair, the bench has strength and experience. For me getting game time into Spillane, O’Brien and the above mentioned defenders is imperative. I think Spillane and O'Brien would make the team should we be up against a top tier team but I think Jack will still treat Munster as pre season without Cork involved now. He'll ease fellas back in who didn't play the end of the league. We would definitely need more height around the middle but I can't see Breen staring instead of Brían come June. Breen doesn't puncture blankets with his running from deep quiet like Brían and Gavin do. Regardless, Kerry should be winning this by at least 12 points and it will give fellas valuable game time. |
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Post by horsebox77 on Apr 20, 2023 21:17:09 GMT
Agree, sorry maybe my comment was misleading, starting in order of preference would be Brión, then Mike Breen .. I'd hold Murphy in reserve.
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Post by mike70 on Apr 21, 2023 5:28:33 GMT
No surprises with the team selection.
If we can be comfortable early, be nice to run the bench and give guys some game time.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Apr 21, 2023 9:12:19 GMT
Glad to see most of the injuries have cleared up.
We all know that HF line which is similar to the one that played against Mayo won't cut it against Division 1 teams.
Hopefully we get time into lads that haven't played any football this year.
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Apr 21, 2023 9:13:07 GMT
Anyone have an idea of who’s on the championship training panel outside of the 26 named for Saturday?
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Post by Jo90 on Apr 21, 2023 10:39:17 GMT
This might be a stupid question so forgive my ignorance. I can't make it down for Saturday so going to have to settle for GAA Go. Do you need to watch it live or can you purchase it and watch the broadcast back say an hour or two after the final whistle? Herself is demanding I traipse around the shops after her on Saturday afternoon so hoping to cocoon myself from all knowledge of the game as it progresses and then settle down and watch it in peace around 6 or 7pm that night.
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Post by againstthegrain on Apr 21, 2023 12:17:44 GMT
I posted this on Premierview and thought to myself, “self, it might also be worth posting on the Kerry GAA forum”
I’m not sure how true this story is but as they say never let facts get in the way. I heard it from a Kerry man in a pub in Killarney one afternoon when my daughter discovered that the Penny’s in Killarney is huge and as a result, I discovered that I would have a couple of hours to kill.
The last time Tipp beat Kerry was in 1928. That Kerry team is rightly regarded as one of the best to ever play the game. Furthermore it was a team that did its bit to heal the wounds of the civil war which was particularly bitter down in Kerry. Their star forward, John Joe Sheehy was “on the run” having been on the Anti-Treaty side during the war. Another of their star men, Con Brosnan was a captain in the Free State Army. Con used to guarantee John Joe’s safe passage to the games so in the 1924 Munster championship, John Joe would pay into the game like everyone else, then throw off the overcoat and clothes and emerge from the crowd fully togged out a minute or two before throw-in.
They won 54 of their 56 league and championship from 1924 to 1932. They won the AI in 1924, reached the AI in 1925 beating Cavan in the semi final but Cavan objected the result and both teams were thrown out. They won the All Ireland again in 1926.
The only games they lost between 1924 and 1932 was an AI Final to Kildare in 1927 and a Munster Semi Final to a Tipp team who only came together the week of the match.
If you didn’t know by now that they were good, I’ll give you further evidence. In 1927, The Great Southern Railway Company presented a trophy to the Gaa for an interprovincial competition to be played on St Patrick’s Day every year. This competition would become known as The Railway Cup. Although the 1927 Munster team was made up of players from Kerry, Cork, Tipp and Clare, in 1928, the Munster team was an all Kerry selection.
So how did a Tipp team that only got together the week of the game beat this great Kerry team in 1928?
Although there was no Arravale Rovers man on the Tipp team, the people of Tipp town had a large part to play in the victory.
Kerry arrived in Tipperary Town train station on the Saturday. They were overwhelmed to be greeted by a few hundred Tipp fans, a couple of brass bands and members of the Urban Council.
They were then taken to a reception in The Royal Hotel in town and later that evening they where treated to a tour of the Glen of Aherlow.(because Kerry lads wouldn’t be used to looking at nice scenery!)
Now as you may well know, they wouldn’t be the first men to come out of the Glen in a worse state than they went in. They were supposed to stop for light refreshments but let’s just say the refreshments weren’t so light
It was all hours before they got back to the Royal and then they next day while dying of hangovers, Tipp tore into them and hit them hard at every opportunity. The game was stopped so often to treat Kerry lads that the ref had to play 15 minutes injury time at the end
That was a Munster Semi Final. Without the benefit of the underhand tactics in the Munster Final which was played in Faher Field, the Tipp team’s lack of training was found out and Cork beat them 4:03 to 0:04.
The lesson was learned by the Kerry lads though and they went on to win 4 in a row All Ireland’s in 1929, 1930, 1931 & 1932. The also won 3 Leagues in that time. Probably would have been 4 but the league wasn’t played in 1930.
I don’t know whose idea it was to take them to The Glen but it was genius. As Roy Keane says “fail to prepare …..😀
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Post by tpo on Apr 21, 2023 18:39:00 GMT
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Post by horsebox77 on Apr 21, 2023 20:46:59 GMT
Bookies have us at 1/500.. can anyone see anything less than a double figure win, pulling up, while also giving game time or getting grass in to the legs
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Post by Jo90 on Apr 21, 2023 22:01:54 GMT
Should be a straight forward win.
Midfield is the main area to keep an eye on.
The Munster Championship feels like a pre-season competition though.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Apr 22, 2023 7:14:06 GMT
Should be a straight forward win. Midfield is the main area to keep an eye on. The Munster Championship feels like a pre-season competition though. It effectively is a pre season competition.. Looking forward to seeing Kerry but it's hard to get excited over a game v Tipp. |
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Post by john4 on Apr 22, 2023 8:29:38 GMT
It effectively is a pre season competition.. Looking forward to seeing Kerry but it's hard to get excited over a game v Tipp. Especially a Tipp team without their two best forwards Michael Quinlivan and Conor Sweeney. Also with Cork gone it takes a bit of gloss out of the MSFC although Clare might be a different prospect if they overcome Limerick. Our first group match in the All Ireland competition is , I think, either the weekend of the 20th or 27th May. Still a month away from now. We will not be tested before then. It should be becoming clearer now why we didn't light it up in the league. I think a brilliant job was done by having the players physically able enough to ensure we survived in Div 1 in light of the fact that championship football was months away. |
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Post by thehermit on Apr 22, 2023 9:33:09 GMT
I posted this on Premierview and thought to myself, “self, it might also be worth posting on the Kerry GAA forum” I’m not sure how true this story is but as they say never let facts get in the way. I heard it from a Kerry man in a pub in Killarney one afternoon when my daughter discovered that the Penny’s in Killarney is huge and as a result, I discovered that I would have a couple of hours to kill. The last time Tipp beat Kerry was in 1928. That Kerry team is rightly regarded as one of the best to ever play the game. Furthermore it was a team that did its bit to heal the wounds of the civil war which was particularly bitter down in Kerry. Their star forward, John Joe Sheehy was “on the run” having been on the Anti-Treaty side during the war. Another of their star men, Con Brosnan was a captain in the Free State Army. Con used to guarantee John Joe’s safe passage to the games so in the 1924 Munster championship, John Joe would pay into the game like everyone else, then throw off the overcoat and clothes and emerge from the crowd fully togged out a minute or two before throw-in. They won 54 of their 56 league and championship from 1924 to 1932. They won the AI in 1924, reached the AI in 1925 beating Cavan in the semi final but Cavan objected the result and both teams were thrown out. They won the All Ireland again in 1926. The only games they lost between 1924 and 1932 was an AI Final to Kildare in 1927 and a Munster Semi Final to a Tipp team who only came together the week of the match. If you didn’t know by now that they were good, I’ll give you further evidence. In 1927, The Great Southern Railway Company presented a trophy to the Gaa for an interprovincial competition to be played on St Patrick’s Day every year. This competition would become known as The Railway Cup. Although the 1927 Munster team was made up of players from Kerry, Cork, Tipp and Clare, in 1928, the Munster team was an all Kerry selection. So how did a Tipp team that only got together the week of the game beat this great Kerry team in 1928? Although there was no Arravale Rovers man on the Tipp team, the people of Tipp town had a large part to play in the victory. Kerry arrived in Tipperary Town train station on the Saturday. They were overwhelmed to be greeted by a few hundred Tipp fans, a couple of brass bands and members of the Urban Council. They were then taken to a reception in The Royal Hotel in town and later that evening they where treated to a tour of the Glen of Aherlow.(because Kerry lads wouldn’t be used to looking at nice scenery!) Now as you may well know, they wouldn’t be the first men to come out of the Glen in a worse state than they went in. They were supposed to stop for light refreshments but let’s just say the refreshments weren’t so light It was all hours before they got back to the Royal and then they next day while dying of hangovers, Tipp tore into them and hit them hard at every opportunity. The game was stopped so often to treat Kerry lads that the ref had to play 15 minutes injury time at the end That was a Munster Semi Final. Without the benefit of the underhand tactics in the Munster Final which was played in Faher Field, the Tipp team’s lack of training was found out and Cork beat them 4:03 to 0:04. The lesson was learned by the Kerry lads though and they went on to win 4 in a row All Ireland’s in 1929, 1930, 1931 & 1932. The also won 3 Leagues in that time. Probably would have been 4 but the league wasn’t played in 1930. I don’t know whose idea it was to take them to The Glen but it was genius. As Roy Keane says “fail to prepare …..😀
I'll have you know that after that horrendous first half, Kerry regrouped and began to bombard the Tipp goal, finally sending home one half way through the second half. That still left them 4 points behind with the final minutes ticking down. Then John Joe Sheehy grabbed a kickout and set off on a brilliant solo through the Tipp defence before off loading to Ned Sweeney who crashed the ball into the net to leave Kerry just a point in arrears as the game entered the final minute.
From the restart Sheehy caught the ball again and immediately kicked what looked to many like the winning score. However, confusion now reigned as to whether the score would be given and though the umpire on duty at that end was himself a Kerryman, he eventually signaled a wide ball. The ref blew the whistle and pandemonium ensued.
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Post by thehermit on Apr 22, 2023 15:50:29 GMT
So far so good, well in control.
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Post by Premier on Apr 22, 2023 16:38:01 GMT
Would’ve been nice to see a goal but well dealt with really. Brosnan looked good, as did spillane when he came on. Tom sullivan the usual brilliance. Honestly don’t know what to take from it. Covering the 18 point spread was about the height of interest in it
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Post by The16thMan on Apr 22, 2023 16:57:34 GMT
Kerry managed to win at a canter without giving too much away. A lot of fellas still trying to find form. Tom Sull, Tony B & Seanie were up there with the better performers. Ruairi Murphy and Killian did well when introduced but at this stage Munster is all about priming us for Sam Maguire. Would like to have seen more from Clifford but we can excuse him as long as he delivers from June onwards. Onto Munster Final in 2 weeks now
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Post by pukefootball on Apr 22, 2023 17:04:05 GMT
25 points. 20 point win. No injuries. Job done.
Only negatives I can take from it is that we need a set player for penalties. Constant changing of the penalty taker cannot be good no matter what. Midfield wasn’t particularly great either, however I wouldn’t be too worried. Maybe Barry Dan could see a bit more playtime.
Good outing, special mention to the foreign exchange students creating a San Siro atmosphere in the stand!
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Post by royalkerryfan on Apr 22, 2023 17:35:19 GMT
Job done,
Let's behonest Tipp are a poor junior B side.
This just shows the absurdity of the provincial championships.
David Clifford was quiet by his standards and didn't really look to get into the game.
Can't even judge the scores because frankly there wasn't a hand laid on anyone.
Main positive is to injured lads returning and getting some time.
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Post by Kingdomson on Apr 22, 2023 17:46:51 GMT
Good win as fully expected.
Job done but not for the first time and something that's been a bugbear of mine for a long time is Kerry don't go after or create goal chances enough. This is what separates the Dubs especially tactically in attack from all others. It stood out again in the league final when they played Derry - no team was going to kick 25 points against this Derry team but the Dubs went deliberately hunting for and scored goals to tear them down. It’s not by accident and they do this time and time again and indeed it’s now a surprise if Dublin doesn’t score a goal in a game.
Kerry seems a much more risk adverse and conservative side content to continually recycle and pop over points. Back in 2021 Kerry scored 21 points against Tyrone but couldn’t nail any goal chance and it was the Tyrone goals that beat Kerry ultimately. Fortunate does more often than not favour the brave – Kerry have the players but need to be braver and smarter in going for goals. BTW, when did we last score a penalty in a big game?
Back to going for goals, tactically it's something Kerry should develop and bring more into their game I think. Don't wait for it to happen, make i happen should be the mantra. They have the scoring players but ruthlessly hunting and scoring more goals would be a welcome tactical development - just saying!
As for today, job done and we cruise on.
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Post by gaelicden on Apr 22, 2023 18:41:39 GMT
25 points. 20 point win. No injuries. Job done. Only negatives I can take from it is that we need a set player for penalties. Constant changing of the penalty taker cannot be good no matter what. Midfield wasn’t particularly great either, however I wouldn’t be too worried. Maybe Barry Dan could see a bit more playtime. Good outing, special mention to the foreign exchange students creating a San Siro atmosphere in the stand! Met the foreign exchange students before the game myself, well up for it they were and good craic all the same. As for the game itself, I just found it weird. Won easily, took our time to break stride, but Tipp offered nothing. My main gripe would be the Tipp lads slowing the play down every time the ref blew for a free, it didn't help create a fast entertaining fair. My main worries after tonight would be creating goal chances and our midfield. Anyway, onwards to the Munster Final. |
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Post by clarinman on Apr 22, 2023 19:36:16 GMT
Of course James Ó Donoghue scored a pen v Cork in munster final 15. And in the mayo semi replay in 14. |
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Post by sullyschoice on Apr 22, 2023 21:09:03 GMT
25 points. 20 point win. No injuries. Job done. Only negatives I can take from it is that we need a set player for penalties. Constant changing of the penalty taker cannot be good no matter what. Midfield wasn’t particularly great either, however I wouldn’t be too worried. Maybe Barry Dan could see a bit more playtime. Good outing, special mention to the foreign exchange students creating a San Siro atmosphere in the stand! Is that who they were. At least they created a bit of atmosphere |
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