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Post by diego on Jul 10, 2023 11:56:30 GMT
There sure were a lot of draws lately 3 points for a win would sort a lot of this. |
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Post by sconnor101 on Jul 10, 2023 13:43:20 GMT
There sure were a lot of draws lately Are you suggesting match fixing ? Rathmore kilcummin game I’d be sceptical of, but the mighty crokes don’t fix games and that’s a fact but saying that the Tatler were giving free jagers to Milltown lads last night 🤣 It was a royal battle in Milltown though in the words of Mortimer Murphy…I don’t think there was no fix , I was at the game myself and the intensity it was played at would make the hairs on your neck stand up . Proper Div 1 football |
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Post by onlykerry on Jul 10, 2023 14:17:38 GMT
There sure were a lot of draws lately 3 points for a win would sort a lot of this. 3 points for a win and 1 for a draw would have seen Crokes as Champions, Desmonds and Gneeveguilla relegated with Rahilly's playing Milltown/Castlemaine in a relegation playoff. Of course it may have impacted how some of the other games finished but the existing table would not have changed too much. |
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Post by mike70 on Jul 10, 2023 15:31:13 GMT
I think 3 points for the win is a better option for sure, but no chance of that changing, GAA moves at a slow pace.
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Post by himself on Jul 11, 2023 3:37:41 GMT
About ten years ago (I don't remember which year it was changed) it was two promoted and two relegated from each division. The match-fixing that used to go on back then was unreal. You could predict the result of virtually every final league game with uncanny accuracy just by looking at the table. Three up and down brings more teams into the mix and makes it riskier to do deals.
Three points for a win was debated by the County Board at the time but it was felt that it undervalued draws
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Post by kerryboyo on Jul 12, 2023 19:04:39 GMT
Rahillys and stacks will be a huge battle it is a great game for both sides coming into their Club Championship campaigns I’ve went to Rahillys games they seem to clock out for random stages of games every game this year and if stacks exploit that I imagine they’ll be winners but it’s not a great sign for the town seeing only one club in division 1 , with the game being next Sunday I imagine Dylan Casey will be freed up he’ll be huge bonus to the rock as he had a massive game in strand road earlier in the year when the sides faced
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Post by sullyschoice on Jul 12, 2023 22:00:52 GMT
I spoke to someone lately who suggested that there was an arrangement for a draw between two teams. The draw has since backfired on one of the teams.
Am I nieve in thinking how regular this is in Kerry.
It simply doesn't happen where I live.
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Post by greengold35 on Jul 13, 2023 7:56:27 GMT
I spoke to someone lately who suggested that there was an arrangement for a draw between two teams. The draw has since backfired on one of the teams. Am I nieve in thinking how regular this is in Kerry. It simply doesn't happen where I live. It has been happening for years and in all divisions - look at division 1 & the No of draws in the final 2 rounds! Also, clubs putting out weakened teams to ensure points go to the opposition. |
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Post by horsebox77 on Jul 13, 2023 11:31:15 GMT
I spoke to someone lately who suggested that there was an arrangement for a draw between two teams. The draw has since backfired on one of the teams. Am I nieve in thinking how regular this is in Kerry. It simply doesn't happen where I live. It has been happening for years and in all divisions - look at division 1 & the No of draws in the final 2 rounds! Also, clubs putting out weakened teams to ensure points go to the opposition. This has always been the case and unfortunately, very hard to eradicate, I'll give you a recent enough example. A team I was involved with needed one point to gain promotion, our opposition required one point to guarantee survival... it was a no-brainer.. quick shake hands, ref advised, draw score agreed and we played a challenge with fringe players... to think it doesn't occur is naive. |
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Post by greengold35 on Jul 13, 2023 12:48:04 GMT
It has been happening for years and in all divisions - look at division 1 & the No of draws in the final 2 rounds! Also, clubs putting out weakened teams to ensure points go to the opposition. This has always been the case and unfortunately, very hard to eradicate, I'll give you a recent enough example. A team I was involved with needed one point to gain promotion, our opposition required one point to guarantee survival... it was a no-brainer.. quick shake hands, ref advised, draw score agreed and we played a challenge with fringe players... to think it doesn't occur is naive. What strikes me most is that refs comply - I, too ,was involved in a game a few years ago which was a “ fix”( draw) & ref asked before the game if there was an agreement in place!! Funny thing happened - 29 mins gone in 2nd half, sides level, ref advised from both dugouts to blow up - he approached the bainisteoir if one side and said “ Radio Kerry are covering the game, must play another few mins”!! The ball stayed between the 45s until enough time elapsed!! |
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Post by onlykerry on Jul 13, 2023 14:45:01 GMT
Would it be fair to say that eventually these fixes catch up with a team - by this I mean they will end up on the wrong end of another game being fixed.
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Post by keane on Jul 13, 2023 15:03:56 GMT
There was a game a few years ago that was 'meant' to be a draw but ended up being particularly spiky. One of the teams got a penalty last kick of the game when a point down. The manager called in to tell his player to kick it over the bar "I will in my f***** b*******" was the reply, penalty duly buried. It was pretty funny tbf.
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Post by diego on Jul 15, 2023 21:47:43 GMT
Division 1 final standings:
Dr Crokes - 16 (Champions)
Legion - 15
Ballymac - 12
Dingle - 12
Kilcummin - 12
Milltown/Castlemaine - 11
Rathmore - 11
Spa - 11
Kerins O'Rahillys - 10
Austin Stacks - 10 (Relegated)
Gneeveguilla - 9 (Relegated)
Castleisland Desmonds - 3 (Relegated)
Relegation playoff (played on 23/7/23 at Austin Stack Park):
Austin Stacks 0-18 Kerins O'Rahillys 2-16 (After extra time. Score after regulation time was 0-14 to 1-11)
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Post by diego on Jul 20, 2023 11:29:43 GMT
Relegation playoff venue has been switched to Austin Stack Park.
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Post by kerryman90 on Jul 20, 2023 11:52:17 GMT
Will Wayne Guthrie play Sunday?
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Post by horsebox77 on Jul 21, 2023 11:50:07 GMT
Relegation playoff venue has been switched to Austin Stack Park. Will be an interesting and tetchy clash... |
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Post by horsebox77 on Jul 23, 2023 14:08:38 GMT
Any result and feedback here?
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Post by keane on Jul 23, 2023 14:16:34 GMT
Strand Road won after extra time
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Post by horsebox77 on Jul 23, 2023 14:29:21 GMT
Thanks, not great prep for a side hoping to win intermediate and go back senior
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Post by A.N. Other on Jul 23, 2023 14:44:36 GMT
Cormac Coffey seemed the difference going by twitter. Kicked 1-2, fair going to come back from Dubai and do that with no football played.
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Post by greengold35 on Jul 23, 2023 15:20:13 GMT
David Moran & Cormac turned the game back in Strand Road’s favour when it looked like the game was going from them; Rahillys led by 0-06 to 0-05 @ half time but Stacks hit a purple patch to out score their opponents 0-6 to 0-1 but David & Cormac dug in & the sides were level into injury time - sub Ross O’Callaghan intercepted a cross field ball & with a goal on, took his point - the Rockies levelled it up with a 45 from Seán Quilter to send the game to extra time.
Tired legs & minds contributed to mistakes but when Cormac ran 40 + metres & planted the ball into the top corner off his left for a peach of a goal, Strand Rd looked the likely winners.
Stacks lost their discipline somewhat with black & red cards in the 2nd period of extra time with Rahillys punishing them at every opportunity.
Overall a great game from 2nd half onwards & Rahillys deserving winners.
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Post by southward on Jul 23, 2023 15:30:05 GMT
Huge crowd in ASP today, throw in was even delayed with the queues.
Great old entertainment after a slowish first half. Stacks looked to have pulled away in the second half, leading by 4 with 7 or 8 to go. A Diarmuid O'Sullivan goal gave KOR a lifeline that they grabbed with both hands. Looked to have stolen in with a Gearoid Savage point but Sean Quilter nailed a 45 with the last kick of the game to force extra-time.
Cormac Coffey goaled in the first period of ET and the Narries never looked back from there. Won by 4 in the end.
Coffey had a great game when he came on but Moran was surely MOTM - a magnificent display punctuated by outstanding kickpassing.
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Post by taggert on Jul 23, 2023 15:32:30 GMT
Thanks, not great prep for a side hoping to win intermediate and go back senior Stacks were 11 7 up with 8 to go and looked home and hosed. One of the Stacks midfielders left his man go through and the resultant goal changed matters. Coffee kicked 2 excellent late points - when stacks were down a man (red card). He kicked a goal in extra time when the ref waved the KOR keeper to take a goal kick with 2 stacks players injured and lying down with physios on the field - KOR striking for three against 13 men. A subsequent black card on the stroke of ET of HT put paid to Stacks challenge. As for prep, it depends on how you look at it. Stacks have had to play a weakened team in every County League game this year - today being without 3 Kerry players (Casey, Jack O'Shea and Joe O'Connor all watching on) and several injured players including Nagle and Purcell. It has meant they have blooded several players throughout the league which while resulting in relegation, will probably benefit them in the longer term. |
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Post by greengold35 on Jul 23, 2023 15:53:14 GMT
Huge crowd in ASP today, throw in was even delayed with the queues. Great old entertainment after a slowish first half. Stacks looked to have pulled away in the second half, leading by 4 with 7 or 8 to go. A Diarmuid O'Sullivan goal gave KOR a lifeline that they grabbed with both hands. Looked to have stolen in with a Gearoid Savage point but Sean Quilter nailed a 45 with the last kick of the game to force extra-time. Cormac Coffey goaled in the first period of ET and the Narries never looked back from there. Won by 4 in the end. Coffey had a great game when he came on but Moran was surely MOTM - a magnificent display punctuated by outstanding kickpassing. Agree n Moran’s kickpassing - there was a 50 yard kick to Tom Hoare in normal time in front of the stand that was simply outstanding in terms of vision & execution. Rahillys will be happy retaining their status given the amount of players lost during the year - Karl Mullins, Cian Sayers, Cormac, Padraig Neenan, Jack Savage & Gavin O’Brien were all missing for the league from that Kilmacud game - the likes of Jake Foley, Darragh O’Connor, Ben Hanafin , Shane McElligott have all stepped up. A good campaign. |
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Post by kerrysouth on Jul 23, 2023 21:46:30 GMT
Who could have foreseen a few years ago where an ageing Rahillys team relegated an Austin stacks team lacking forwards and an inability to transition promising underage players into good senior players while watching enviously their counterparts in Killarney winning the league with a mixture of experience and really good young players.This really piles the pressure on high profile appointment Billy Lee to deliver the intermediate title and with teams like legion Beaufort Gaeltacht and Glenflesk waiting in the long grass this is not a foregone conclusion.Rahillys are good from midfield up and the inspirational David Moran but defensively weak and very dependant on Cormac Coffey who was outstanding today .
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Jul 24, 2023 5:44:33 GMT
Who could have foreseen a few years ago where an ageing Rahillys team relegated an Austin stacks team lacking forwards and an inability to transition promising underage players into good senior players while watching enviously their counterparts in Killarney winning the league with a mixture of experience and really good young players.This really piles the pressure on high profile appointment Billy Lee to deliver the intermediate title and with teams like legion Beaufort Gaeltacht and Glenflesk waiting in the long grass this is not a foregone conclusion.Rahillys are good from midfield up and the inspirational David Moran but defensively weak and very dependant on Cormac Coffey who was outstanding today . In the late 00s I was saying that Crokes were the team to dominate the next decade as they had so much underage success and I was saying the same in the late 10s about stacks. They have been, and remain, the dominant club at underage level but something is going wrong in the step up to senior |
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Post by hurlingman on Jul 24, 2023 8:47:57 GMT
Will Wayne Guthrie play Sunday? He came on as a sub. So did Donaghy. I think this is an issue Stacks had last year. Lads who hadn't been involved all year just showing up half way through the season. |
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Post by mike70 on Jul 24, 2023 11:00:42 GMT
Great crowd yesterday to watch county league relegation battle, more people there yesterday then the combined attendance of the Div 1 county league all season I would guess.
Great battle between 2 great rivals, repeat of 2021 county final, Rahillys still has the back bone of the 2021 team, missing some instrumental players from the squad for sure, but still a nucleus that will compete with most club teams, one of the few to beat Crokes, the county league winners, as for the stacks, they seeme lost in transition from that 2021 team, as mentioned above, lots of underage talent, but does not always transfer, so some team building for the stacks ahead, the rahilly as mentioned contested 2021 senior final and won an under 21 around 3017 which is rare for a club to do in kerry because of divisional side dominance.
Like most rural ireland club teams, the draw of the big city and foreign lands a big draw on younger players, so hard to get consistency in team selections.
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Post by greengold35 on Jul 24, 2023 13:51:30 GMT
Huge crowd in ASP today, throw in was even delayed with the queues. Great old entertainment after a slowish first half. Stacks looked to have pulled away in the second half, leading by 4 with 7 or 8 to go. A Diarmuid O'Sullivan goal gave KOR a lifeline that they grabbed with both hands. Looked to have stolen in with a Gearoid Savage point but Sean Quilter nailed a 45 with the last kick of the game to force extra-time. Cormac Coffey goaled in the first period of ET and the Narries never looked back from there. Won by 4 in the end. Coffey had a great game when he came on but Moran was surely MOTM - a magnificent display punctuated by outstanding kickpassing. A couple of items! 1. County board switched game from Mitchels due to expected large crowd - one turnstile then open to accept cash & only 4/5 turnstiles in operation in total - emergency gate had to be opened to allow patrons enter. 2. Wondering where ref got additional time in normal time? Announcer said “ at least 4 mins”, I know the at least probably covers all eventualities but the 4 mins was up when Rahillys scored last point - ref allowed play to continue with Stacks forcing a “45” - by the time it was taken another 2 mins had elapsed! 3. Cormac started the game - played corner back for the first 40 mins & then went centre back for the remainder- was instrumental in dragging Rahillys back into the game - would not have won without him. |
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Post by A.N. Other on Jul 24, 2023 18:23:37 GMT
Huge crowd in ASP today, throw in was even delayed with the queues. Great old entertainment after a slowish first half. Stacks looked to have pulled away in the second half, leading by 4 with 7 or 8 to go. A Diarmuid O'Sullivan goal gave KOR a lifeline that they grabbed with both hands. Looked to have stolen in with a Gearoid Savage point but Sean Quilter nailed a 45 with the last kick of the game to force extra-time. Cormac Coffey goaled in the first period of ET and the Narries never looked back from there. Won by 4 in the end. Coffey had a great game when he came on but Moran was surely MOTM - a magnificent display punctuated by outstanding kickpassing. A couple of items! 1. County board switched game from Mitchels due to expected large crowd - one turnstile then open to accept cash & only 4/5 turnstiles in operation in total - emergency gate had to be opened to allow patrons enter. 2. Wondering where ref got additional time in normal time? Announcer said “ at least 4 mins”, I know the at least probably covers all eventualities but the 4 mins was up when Rahillys scored last point - ref allowed play to continue with Stacks forcing a “45” - by the time it was taken another 2 mins had elapsed! 3. Cormac started the game - played corner back for the first 40 mins & then went centre back for the remainder- was instrumental in dragging Rahillys back into the game - would not have won without him. Fair going to come back from Dubai again and to play a pivotal role for KOR. His last game was a man marking job on Shane Walsh in January. Then yesterday he was released to the half back line and helped turn the game on its head. He surely would be a massive addition to the Kerry team if he returned and was available. |
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