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Post by The16thMan on Apr 25, 2022 19:57:40 GMT
That's more like it. Last 10 minutes Kerry were superb. The subs that came in were the difference between both sides. They kicked 5/6 points between them. Evan Looney was superb and deservedly got MOTM, the engine on this guy was unreal. Jack will surely have an interest in him. Vital we push on in the AI series now, we haven't won it since 2008 when Tommy Walsh and David Moran were playing the grade.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Apr 25, 2022 20:03:31 GMT
Lots of positives to take from that performance.
It has to be said that was one of the worst displays of shooting I can remember and that will be nowhere near good enough for Tyrone.
Delighted for Thomas ODonnell a local Castle man from a proud West Kerry parish.
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Post by Jo90 on Apr 25, 2022 20:05:32 GMT
It will be a tough encounter despite the Cork losses - I believe that they deliberately with held some players in the John Kerins tournament game as they did not want to show their hand - can’t be underestimated. As you say, great to get back to big games again. Would think that the Kerry team named will not be the one to take the field - there are a few injury worries and also there were a few poor performances against Clare - on a positive side - when we kicked the ball in the 2nd half - we were much better - Kerry by 7 - Cork have lost too many players as per post above Have you this weekend's Euromillions numbers while you're at it? Always nice to beat Cork by double scores. If you were told beforehand that Dylan Geaney and Cillian Burke wouldn't score from play you wouldn't think a win would be possible.
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Post by dc84 on Apr 25, 2022 20:13:16 GMT
We could've won that by more some horrendous sides the defenders won that game for us to a man i thought they were superb not saying he didn't deserve it but when you only concede 7 scores surely a defender gets it ! It was nip and tuck and hard hitting in first half , I felt our pace woupd prove decisive and it did eventually wearing cork down. Onwards and upwards the forwards surely can't be as bad again !
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Post by fivenarow on Apr 25, 2022 20:21:22 GMT
We could've won that by more some horrendous sides the defenders won that game for us to a man i thought they were superb not saying he didn't deserve it but when you only concede 7 scores surely a defender gets it ! It was nip and tuck and hard hitting in first half , I felt our pace woupd prove decisive and it did eventually wearing cork down. Onwards and upwards the forwards surely can't be as bad again ! I thought joey nagle should have got the MOTM, he was very competitive & sticky throughout. Our panel was better than corks which was d difference in the finish. If we play like that against Tyrone for 30 mins they will be out of sight by the time we get into our stride. Job done & a few lessons learned but I’d imagine plenty food for thought for management.
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Post by dubaigaa2022 on Apr 25, 2022 20:28:10 GMT
Would think that the Kerry team named will not be the one to take the field - there are a few injury worries and also there were a few poor performances against Clare - on a positive side - when we kicked the ball in the 2nd half - we were much better - Kerry by 7 - Cork have lost too many players as per post above Have you this weekend's Euromillions numbers while you're at it? Always nice to beat Cork by double scores. If you were told beforehand that Dylan Geaney and Cillian Burke wouldn't score from play you wouldn't think a win would be possible. Ya - Cork were poor and the older lads coming off the bench did the trick - the first half was woeful - BUT our back 6 v strong - Adam Curran made a huge difference when he came on - he is well worth a starting position abd the FB line were v good - MF is an issue - but that's for another day - Evan Looney played with his head up all night - Dylan will get more attention as the competition progresses - Tyrone will be tough - BUT for now lets celebrate beating our neighbours - no matter how bad they were!!
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Post by dc84 on Apr 25, 2022 20:28:40 GMT
Yeah agree totally on nagle a rock
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Post by Mickmack on Apr 25, 2022 20:37:14 GMT
The Cork manager said Cork had only 5 of the 15 that won the All Ireland so it a creditable performance by Cork all things considered.
The cavalry came over the hill and grabbed the game... the Kerry subs all contributed. I wonder is that a tactic by Declan ...to keep firepower in reserve.
Kerry were quite brilliant in flashes. The foot pass by Dylan Geaney for the goal was sublime....the whole move was in fact...with play bring switched and the defense stretched.
You would think that if Declan starts with the team that finished in the next game v Tyrone they will be hard to beat.
Some very good defensive play at times too...need to watch it again for more clarity.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2022 20:53:27 GMT
It was a much improved second half although it took far too long for Kerry’s dominance to be reflected on the scoreboard. Kerry kicked multiple bad bad wides. Cork were very limited but well organised albeit they did tire towards the end and turned over some bad ball. Although not a high quality match, I thought the effort by both teams throughout was top class.
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Post by tpo on Apr 25, 2022 20:58:15 GMT
Not at the match but on TV it looked that Kerry played with wind in 2nd half which made scoring points easier.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Apr 25, 2022 21:14:41 GMT
I've just read the Semi final is fixed for Sat week clashing with the seniors.
What a daft idea.
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Post by southward on Apr 25, 2022 21:47:26 GMT
By half-time I just wanted to go home.
By the 3/4 mark I had lost the will to live. Perfect conditions but one of the worst games you'll ever see.
The last 15 was a different country.
Declan is doing himself no favours in terms of future senior involvement, if indeed that is a goal. The style of play is awful. Lucky tonight that Cork were no better but it won't be near good enough against Tyrone.
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Post by greengold35 on Apr 25, 2022 22:04:46 GMT
I've just read the Semi final is fixed for Sat week clashing with the seniors. What a daft idea. Think the fixture is 7/8th, so will probably be on the Sunday - would Tyrone come to PUR after our gesture last year??!
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Post by Kerryman Randy Savage on Apr 25, 2022 22:20:01 GMT
I've just read the Semi final is fixed for Sat week clashing with the seniors. What a daft idea. Think the fixture is 7/8th, so will probably be on the Sunday - would Tyrone come to PUR after our gesture last year??! Ladies match Kerry v Tipp on first. They need to have the u20s on the Sunday.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Apr 25, 2022 22:20:12 GMT
I've just read the Semi final is fixed for Sat week clashing with the seniors. What a daft idea. Think the fixture is 7/8th, so will probably be on the Sunday - would Tyrone come to PUR after our gesture last year??! Rte reporting it as Sat week but hopefully your right ..
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Post by kerryexile on Apr 25, 2022 22:29:34 GMT
By half-time I just wanted to go home. By the 3/4 mark I had lost the will to live. Perfect conditions but one of the worst games you'll ever see. The last 15 was a different country. Declan is doing himself no favours in terms of future senior involvement, if indeed that is a goal. The style of play is awful. Lucky tonight that Cork were no better but it won't be near good enough against Tyrone. I thought the missing ingredient in the first half was killer instinct. Other than that they looked like good footballers but there is no column for that in the scoreboard. It was typical of what Declan might produce, an emphasis on skull above all else, perfect for an academy coach. In the second half the subs grabbed their opportunities and this produced the momentum needed to pull away. We definitely saw a few players that will wear the senior jersey but winning the U20 AI is a different question.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Apr 25, 2022 23:57:59 GMT
Future for NK not great, 1 vs a very high 6 for Tralee. Now those who get the jersey deserve it, but why can't NK compete all these years?
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Post by Premier on Apr 26, 2022 5:54:59 GMT
Can anyone tell me which players are u20, u19 and u18 from a Kerry point of view?
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Apr 26, 2022 8:27:18 GMT
Not a great game but a win is a win. It’ll stand to the lads winning a dirty game
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Post by dc84 on Apr 26, 2022 8:38:20 GMT
Where Kerry playing into a wind in first half does anyone who was there know? If they were that turgid first half wouldn't worry me as much!
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Post by homerj on Apr 26, 2022 9:34:44 GMT
regarding cork saying they'd only 5 of their starting 15 from minor final 3 years ago.
i make it wed only 4 of ours that started in that minor semi final. 3 of that starting 15 were subs last night so a similar enough turnover of players for them compared to us.
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Post by homerj on Apr 26, 2022 9:37:29 GMT
one worry from last night is we only took 12 out of 30 scoring chances. that scoring return was probably 6 from ~24 until the 3 lads kicked 6 late points in a row off the bench.
while its great to be creating so many chances, that scoring return again a tough Tyrone defence, is something that needs attention. and it wasnt like we had high balls going just wide or shots from tight angles, we kicked a heap of wides from the so called scoring zone that were tap over point oppurtunities.
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Post by onlykerry on Apr 26, 2022 9:45:18 GMT
A poor game with a good 15 minute spell for Kerry when the bench was used.
Kerry seemed to decide from the start that they could not win midfield and every kickout went short - Cork conceded the kick outs but Kerry took forever to move the ball upfield and when they eventually passed the half way line they frequently just played that awful possession game over and back the Cork 65 mt line. That said there was little or no movement inside (until the subs came on) with the exception of the beautifully worked goal - two? good long foot passes found the lose man who dispatched it to the net.
A number of posters asked about the wind - it was not significant and was not the cause of any of the poor shooting by either side.
Winning badly is always better than losing valiantly and this group have a chance to show us how they can play better - and in an AI SF against Tyrone they will need to play better.
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Post by veteran on Apr 26, 2022 9:46:08 GMT
A beautiful evening, a fine crowd, another win over Cork and I heard the twittering of my first swallow yesterday. Is there anymore an old boy could wish for!
This was a strange one. Only three points secured by both teams at half time yet such was the competitiveness and intensity and feistiness exhibited that interest never waned. Talking about feistiness, I must compliment the referee. A calm, sensible man who only got involved when needed. A man who clearly is aware that he is a facilitator and not the main attraction.
We played against the stiffish breeze in the first half and were often under pressure. At midfield, Alan Walsh was a dominant figure for Cork, a marvelous fielder, and to my utter frustration we played a safety first , utterly defensive game. For instance, Kevin Goulding, a natural forward, spent more time in a defensive role than up front, dragging his marker Tommy Walsh with him who seemed to be very happy out the field. This is my third time seeing this team and each time when the going was tough it was our back line who kept us afloat. To a man they were heroic with Joey Nagle all through and Enda O'Connor in the second half being particularly eye catching but in truth all refused to bend the knee. In previous matches these stubborn boys were ably assisted by our midfield but last night we struggled there until Ruairi Murphy thundered into the game as the second half advanced.
In that first half, Devon Burns made a couple of fine saves but as in the Clare game he failed to score from two frees. In fairness to Devon that is not primary duty. Also in that first half Kevin Goulding kicked a peach of a ball over the defence which wing back Tommy Cronin ran onto and , no doubt if he was a natural forward, he would have put it away. Speaking of Tommy, my goodness he put in a bone crusher of a shoulder on his opponent, capsized him but in fairness to the Cork lad he got up and played away. Indeed Tommy hurt his left shoulder in that collision and unsurprisingly did not reappear after half time. After the match I noticed he had his left arm/shoulder in a sling. Vicious shoulder challenges like that were noteworthy aspects of the game. For example , pint sized Evan Looney delivered another one and this time the unfortunate Cork man had to go off.
Cillian Burke got a leg injury in that opening half which clearly impacted on his performance. They will need that boy at full tilt against Tyrone.
Cork got the opening point of the second half but it was apparent now, thanks be to The Lord, that Kerry's approach had altered. They decided to do what comes naturally to Kerry footballers-attack, attack. It paid dividends in that it resulted in the turning point of the game. Dylan Geaney, successfully quelled for most of the game by his marker, received he ball and then he did what Geaneys are born to do. He looked up and then dispatched a sublime ball to the inrushing Keith Evans who quickly passed across to the forever classy, Thomas O'Donnell, and Thomas did the needful. Thomas was replaced towards the end and he looked utterly exhausted. He is a good one.
Two up now and while Cork did not lie down we kept them in the game by some wayward shooting, a lot of efforts just narrowly tailed off. It was frustrating and for a while it looked like it might cost us. For me though, I will take an effort at scoring any day before the numbingly boring pass the parcel methodology. Eventually the scores did come and on the basis of our late dominance it was appropriate that they did. It is rare that substitutes collectively make such an imprint in a game but Jordan Kissane, Gearoid Hassett and Jack O'Connor all came along and scored two each. Job done.
Kevin Goulding played closer to goal in the second half with success. He came off injured later on.
I must mention Dr. Crokes man, Evan Looney. A lad who who weighs nothing but whatever few ounces are there, are there. He weighs less today because all those ounces are this morning scattered about Austin Stack Park. I saw him play against Galway in the John Kerins cup and I came away shaking my head , he won't do. In fact he and Gearoid Hassett and Jack O'Connor were replaced that day. It is a silly man who tries to evaluate underage players. I wonder is Evan related to Brian? They certainly have the same maniacal work ethic.
So there it is. A package of frustration and exhilaration served up in equal parts. How good is this team? Ask somebody else. I am off to track down that elusive swallow.
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Post by greengold35 on Apr 26, 2022 10:23:58 GMT
Where Kerry playing into a wind in first half does anyone who was there know? If they were that turgid first half wouldn't worry me as much! I was on the terrace & the breeze was light & not a factor in the game.
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Post by greengold35 on Apr 26, 2022 10:27:34 GMT
Can anyone tell me which players are u20, u19 and u18 from a Kerry point of view? The 2019 minor team contained - Burns, Dineen, , Curran, O’Brien, Jack O’Connor, Geaney, Hassett, Goulding & Cronin. The 2020 team had - Broderick ( sub keeper), Nagle, O’Callaghan, Heinrich, Evans, Shine & O’Donnell. Dara O’Callaghan was the only minor from last year in the squad.
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Post by kerryeastcoastusa on Apr 26, 2022 11:24:15 GMT
Can anyone tell me which players are u20, u19 and u18 from a Kerry point of view? The 2019 minor team contained - Burns, Dineen, , Curran, O’Brien, Jack O’Connor, Geaney, Hassett, Goulding & Cronin. The 2020 team had - Broderick ( sub keeper), Nagle, O’Callaghan, Heinrich, Evans, Shine & O’Donnell. Dara O’Callaghan was the only minor from last year in the squad. I think G Hassett was on last years minor team also
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Post by southward on Apr 26, 2022 12:43:11 GMT
Speaking of Tommy, my goodness he put in a bone crusher of a shoulder on his opponent, capsized him but in fairness to the Cork lad he got up and played away. Indeed Tommy hurt his left shoulder in that collision and unsurprisingly did not reappear after half time. After the match I noticed he had his left arm/shoulder in a sling. Vicious shoulder challenges like that were noteworthy aspects of the game. For example , pint sized Evan Looney delivered another one and this time the unfortunate Cork man had to go off. I'm of the opinion that these statement shoulders should be outlawed. They're usually more about sabre-rattling and getting the crowd going than actually winning possession. More importantly, they're dangerous and we saw the results of that last night. Tommy Cronin ended up wrecking himself and Looney's challenge resulted in a clash of heads that ended the Cork lad's night - he was lucky not to be carded. Two fellas going shoulder to shoulder tussling for possession is a different matter of course.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Apr 26, 2022 13:43:45 GMT
Speaking of Tommy, my goodness he put in a bone crusher of a shoulder on his opponent, capsized him but in fairness to the Cork lad he got up and played away. Indeed Tommy hurt his left shoulder in that collision and unsurprisingly did not reappear after half time. After the match I noticed he had his left arm/shoulder in a sling. Vicious shoulder challenges like that were noteworthy aspects of the game. For example , pint sized Evan Looney delivered another one and this time the unfortunate Cork man had to go off. I'm of the opinion that these statement shoulders should be outlawed. They're usually more about sabre-rattling and getting the crowd going than actually winning possession. More importantly, they're dangerous and we saw the results of that last night. Tommy Cronin ended up wrecking himself and Looney's challenge resulted in a clash of heads that ended the Cork lad's night - he was lucky not to be carded. Two fellas going shoulder to shoulder tussling for possession is a different matter of course. Ahhh now Let’s not completely sanitize the game. Those hits are magnificent!
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Post by dc84 on Apr 26, 2022 13:52:40 GMT
I'm of the opinion that these statement shoulders should be outlawed. They're usually more about sabre-rattling and getting the crowd going than actually winning possession. More importantly, they're dangerous and we saw the results of that last night. Tommy Cronin ended up wrecking himself and Looney's challenge resulted in a clash of heads that ended the Cork lad's night - he was lucky not to be carded. Two fellas going shoulder to shoulder tussling for possession is a different matter of course. Ahhh now Let’s not completely sanitize the game. Those hits are magnificent! It's a grey area though how do you put it in a rule book ? 2 lads tussling for a ball but what if they are going at different speeds? I can see both sides tbh, I actually thought cork were well on top and were dominant physically until that hit and the rest of the team then followed suit I thought it was a turning point myself and was roaring at the tv myself! They are dangerous though and can lead to serious injuries and concussions which are a disaster in any sport just look at that poor English rugby player and his tribulations recently.
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