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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2022 14:54:51 GMT
I think that Kerry will account for Kildare very comfortably. I was at the Kildare V Westmeath game in the O Byrne cup and I thought that their passing, particularly their foot passing was excellent. I then went to their game V Laois and their passing and execution of basic skills were awful. Kevin Feeley and Darragh Kirwan are huge losses. David Hyland and Paddy Mac Dermott are surprise exclusions. Shay Ryan wouldn’t be a natural full back and will have his hands full tomorrow. Touchy at wing back has played well in pre season games but has been tried a few times already and hasn’t really taken his opportunities. Jack Sargent on the other wing has been Kildare’s find of the pre season, it will be interesting to see how he fares. Kev Flynn is a class wing back, he has been tried at wing forward and it hasn’t worked but he will be very effective around the middle. Kevin O Callaghan is big and mobile but is inclined to take too much out of the ball. Up front Paddy Woodgate is very accurate off his left, Jimmy Hyland is decent with space and Dan Flynn, well you just never know what you’re going to get. He scored a spectacular goal a week ago but he gave the ball away about 6 or 7 times during the game. I would be very disappointed if Kerry didn’t win by a comfortable margin. They are well ahead of Kildare and a decent performance should see them safely onwards. Looking forward to it, less than 800 tickets left as of last night so St Conleth’s Park should be rocking tomorrow. Safe travel to all, an Ríocht abú! I suppose the weather could throw a spanner in the works as its supposed to be raining and windy but hopefully we'll be OK.
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Post by mike70 on Jan 29, 2022 15:01:18 GMT
Don’t think Kildare were too worried about o Byrne cup, we’re going thru an amount of hard training, I suspect they be freshened up for tomo to welcome Jack back, but Kerry in a physical game.
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Post by taggert on Jan 29, 2022 16:38:30 GMT
There is a lot of criticism of some of the selection particularly the HF line and the size of some of our players. In the next breath we want JOC to give guys a chance and see how lads do in a more competitive environment than the Mc Grath Cup. Throw in injuries and club tied players this is probably very balanced team selection given the desire to win the points, try out lads and not take Kildare for granted. Expect the full compliment of subs to be deployed - there are some bigger challenges ahead starting with Dublin in Tralee next weekend. There are another dozen (or thereabouts) who will be pushing for team and match days squads that were not available for tomorrow. Certainties to be in the 26 if available include Mike Breen, David Moran, Jack Barry, Diarmuid O Connor and Stephen O Brien. Realistic hopefuls that could be challenging include Stefan and Joe O Connor and guys hoping to make the breakthrough include Paul O Shea, Jack O Shea, Andrew Barry, Pa Warren, Adam O Donoghue. This all means tomorrow is important for the team and subs as some may not get too many more opportunities to impress as some of the dozen become available in the next couple of weeks. If Jack Barry is a certainty in the 26, I think Moran can hang around for as long as he wants. Jack is 27 now and I'm not sure he has developed one iota since he first started for Kerry. He has been dining out on keeping Fenton relatively quiet - but what else is he bringing to the party?
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Post by kingdomofciar on Jan 29, 2022 17:25:55 GMT
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jan 29, 2022 17:28:08 GMT
There is a lot of criticism of some of the selection particularly the HF line and the size of some of our players. In the next breath we want JOC to give guys a chance and see how lads do in a more competitive environment than the Mc Grath Cup. Throw in injuries and club tied players this is probably very balanced team selection given the desire to win the points, try out lads and not take Kildare for granted. Expect the full compliment of subs to be deployed - there are some bigger challenges ahead starting with Dublin in Tralee next weekend. There are another dozen (or thereabouts) who will be pushing for team and match days squads that were not available for tomorrow. Certainties to be in the 26 if available include Mike Breen, David Moran, Jack Barry, Diarmuid O Connor and Stephen O Brien. Realistic hopefuls that could be challenging include Stefan and Joe O Connor and guys hoping to make the breakthrough include Paul O Shea, Jack O Shea, Andrew Barry, Pa Warren, Adam O Donoghue. This all means tomorrow is important for the team and subs as some may not get too many more opportunities to impress as some of the dozen become available in the next couple of weeks. If Jack Barry is a certainty in the 26, I think Moran can hang around for as long as he wants. Jack is 27 now and I'm not sure he has developed one iota since he first started for Kerry. He has been dining out on keeping Fenton relatively quiet - but what else is he bringing to the party? Well that error against Tyrone last year will live long in the memory as you wouldn't see it at junior B.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jan 29, 2022 17:29:20 GMT
Hard luck to the Na Gael lads but from a selfish perspective we need a few options around the middle particularly next week.
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Post by horsebox77 on Jan 29, 2022 17:36:39 GMT
That was my first reaction as well, Diarmuid and Jack will be available and of JOC wants to get game time to test Stefan next Saturday night may now be availed of
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Post by g on Jan 29, 2022 17:55:15 GMT
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Post by sullyschoice on Jan 29, 2022 17:57:14 GMT
Stefan Okunbar has got a serious shoulder injury. Possible dislocation and brought to hospital according to reports.
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Post by horsebox77 on Jan 29, 2022 18:04:21 GMT
Serious bad luck on the young lad.
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Post by onlykerry on Jan 29, 2022 19:22:59 GMT
There is a lot of criticism of some of the selection particularly the HF line and the size of some of our players. In the next breath we want JOC to give guys a chance and see how lads do in a more competitive environment than the Mc Grath Cup. Throw in injuries and club tied players this is probably very balanced team selection given the desire to win the points, try out lads and not take Kildare for granted. Expect the full compliment of subs to be deployed - there are some bigger challenges ahead starting with Dublin in Tralee next weekend. There are another dozen (or thereabouts) who will be pushing for team and match days squads that were not available for tomorrow. Certainties to be in the 26 if available include Mike Breen, David Moran, Jack Barry, Diarmuid O Connor and Stephen O Brien. Realistic hopefuls that could be challenging include Stefan and Joe O Connor and guys hoping to make the breakthrough include Paul O Shea, Jack O Shea, Andrew Barry, Pa Warren, Adam O Donoghue. This all means tomorrow is important for the team and subs as some may not get too many more opportunities to impress as some of the dozen become available in the next couple of weeks. If Jack Barry is a certainty in the 26, I think Moran can hang around for as long as he wants. Jack is 27 now and I'm not sure he has developed one iota since he first started for Kerry. He has been dining out on keeping Fenton relatively quiet - but what else is he bringing to the party? I am not making a case for him - simply calling it as I see it based on him being an established player in the last few years. With two of the lads chasing his place on the injured list after today it makes him even more likely to be in the match day 26 - Stefan and Joe need games to hone their claims at this level and if they miss (some or all) of the league it will be challenging for them to break into the game come the championship. Opinion is divided on David Moran but I would hold him in high regard even at this stage of his career.
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Post by thehermit on Jan 29, 2022 20:14:17 GMT
Dublin getting hockeyed, long may it last 🤣
Hope Stefan is ok, didn't stream the game. Was it a fair result? I thought Na Geal would have won it out given their talent
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Post by Mickmack on Jan 29, 2022 21:17:44 GMT
What a beautiful brand of football Armagh played tonight.... the long and the short, diagonal passes, high fielding, good defending and they kicked a flurry of long rang points that Kerry supporters can only dream about right now.
Armagh have had a few great games in the McKenna cup and looked further down the road that Dublin. And just as well as they play Donegal in Ballybofey in the championship on 28th April.
Rian oNeill looks to be one of the best footballers around and he has plenty of help too.
Dublins weakened side were well beaten and their subs didnt make much impact either.
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Jan 29, 2022 21:53:13 GMT
What a beautiful brand of football Armagh played tonight.... the long and the short, diagonal passes, high fielding, good defending and they kicked a flurry of long rang points that Kerry supporters can only dream about right now. Armagh have had a few great games in the McKenna cup and looked further down the road that Dublin. And just as well as they play Donegal in Ballybofey in the championship on 28th April. Rian oNeill looks to be one of the best footballers around and he has plenty of help too. Dublins weakened side were well beaten and their subs didnt make much impact either. It wasn’t that much of a weakened side. Who’s to come in? O’Callaghan, McCarthy and Fitzsimons will be 3 big additions but no one really after that. Armagh were missing one of their best players in Oisin O’Neill which balances it out a bit.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jan 29, 2022 21:58:32 GMT
What a beautiful brand of football Armagh played tonight.... the long and the short, diagonal passes, high fielding, good defending and they kicked a flurry of long rang points that Kerry supporters can only dream about right now. Armagh have had a few great games in the McKenna cup and looked further down the road that Dublin. And just as well as they play Donegal in Ballybofey in the championship on 28th April. Rian oNeill looks to be one of the best footballers around and he has plenty of help too. Dublins weakened side were well beaten and their subs didnt make much impact either. It wasn’t that much of a weakened side. Who’s to come in? O’Callaghan, McCarthy and Fitzsimons will be 3 big additions but no one really after that. Armagh were missing one of their best players in Oisin O’Neill which balances it out a bit. Yes and 2 are in their 30s. Roll on next Saturday I hope we give them a good solid beating.
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Jan 29, 2022 22:01:31 GMT
It wasn’t that much of a weakened side. Who’s to come in? O’Callaghan, McCarthy and Fitzsimons will be 3 big additions but no one really after that. Armagh were missing one of their best players in Oisin O’Neill which balances it out a bit. Yes and 2 are in their 30s. Roll on next Saturday I hope we give them a good solid beating. I was hoping for the same until I remembered what happened us last year. I’ll take a 3 point win considering we’ll most likely be playing them in an All Ireland semi final.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jan 29, 2022 22:03:31 GMT
Yes and 2 are in their 30s. Roll on next Saturday I hope we give them a good solid beating. I was hoping for the same until I remembered what happened us last year. I’ll take a 3 point win considering we’ll most likely be playing them in an All Ireland semi final. No I think we need to lay down a mental marker for both them and us.
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Post by veteran on Jan 29, 2022 22:06:09 GMT
It wasn’t that much of a weakened side. Who’s to come in? O’Callaghan, McCarthy and Fitzsimons will be 3 big additions but no one really after that. Armagh were missing one of their best players in Oisin O’Neill which balances it out a bit. Yes and 2 are in their 30s. Roll on next Saturday I hope we give them a good solid beating. Let us deal with Kildare first.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jan 29, 2022 22:41:32 GMT
Yes and 2 are in their 30s. Roll on next Saturday I hope we give them a good solid beating. Let us deal with Kildare first. Absolutely Veteran but Dublin played tonight so naturally the conversation centered on them.
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Post by southward on Jan 29, 2022 22:43:05 GMT
I was hoping for the same until I remembered what happened us last year. I’ll take a 3 point win considering we’ll most likely be playing them in an All Ireland semi final. No I think we need to lay down a mental marker for both them and us. Like the one we laid down against Tyrone
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jan 29, 2022 22:51:04 GMT
No I think we need to lay down a mental marker for both them and us. Like the one we laid down against Tyrone Fair point
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Post by taggert on Jan 29, 2022 22:59:07 GMT
If Jack Barry is a certainty in the 26, I think Moran can hang around for as long as he wants. Jack is 27 now and I'm not sure he has developed one iota since he first started for Kerry. He has been dining out on keeping Fenton relatively quiet - but what else is he bringing to the party? I am not making a case for him - simply calling it as I see it based on him being an established player in the last few years. With two of the lads chasing his place on the injured list after today it makes him even more likely to be in the match day 26 - Stefan and Joe need games to hone their claims at this level and if they miss (some or all) of the league it will be challenging for them to break into the game come the championship. Opinion is divided on David Moran but I would hold him in high regard even at this stage of his career. In fairness to you, appreciate that. DoC, for instance has developed significantly year on year but he is at his best going forward and we do need a midfielder who will hold and mix it with guys running at us. I just feel Jack has been relatively stagnant to the point that, we have seen him at his best, which is a cut below what we need. A. Spillane falls into the same boat for me. No shame in that. David played very intelligently last year I felt and moved the ball quicker than he ever did before. With Joe out for 2 months+ and Stefan for 3+ (assumed) we will go with what we have but I think we are all hoping either Joe or Stefan comes good and removes the dependency on David soon.
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Post by Mickmack on Jan 29, 2022 23:00:30 GMT
No I think we need to lay down a mental marker for both them and us. Like the one we laid down against Tyrone What was it again. A 17 point win.
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Post by The16thMan on Jan 29, 2022 23:39:16 GMT
Anyone looking for a free ticket for tomorrow. Can't attend unfortunately
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jan 30, 2022 0:08:30 GMT
Like the one we laid down against Tyrone What was it again. A 17 point win. To behonest I'm reluctant to even respond to you however. Kerry had no hang ups with Tyrone so last years league game was irrelevant. There's plenty with Dublin a convincing win will instill some believe in us and maybe some doubt in them.
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Post by Mickmack on Jan 30, 2022 0:15:21 GMT
What was it again. A 17 point win. To behonest I'm reluctant to even respond to you however. Kerry had no hang ups with Tyrone so last years league game was irrelevant. Too much was made of that league win over Tyrone last year.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jan 30, 2022 0:19:08 GMT
To behonest I'm reluctant to even respond to you however. Kerry had no hang ups with Tyrone so last years league game was irrelevant. Too much was made of that league win over Tyrone last year. Yes it was but that's not the point im making. We have serious baggage with Dublin a win however meaningless will give some belief that they are beatable. We had no baggage with Tyrone so the result was irrelevant.
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Post by Mickmack on Jan 30, 2022 0:31:16 GMT
More games are lost through hubris and over confidence than a lack of confidence in my opinion. I believe that deep down that big win in the league impacted on the psyche of Kerry last year. It certainly fed into over confidence of Kerry supporters. Has it been a tight game it would have been better.
As to the point that Kerry need to beat Dublin next weekend, lets get the Kildare game out of the way first and see where we are then. I hope Dublin bring all their big guns. I think they will.
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Post by decondd2 on Jan 30, 2022 8:31:47 GMT
Dublin getting hockeyed, long may it last 🤣 Hope Stefan is ok, didn't stream the game. Was it a fair result? I thought Na Geal would have won it out given their talent A fair result. Steelstown took advantage of their chances in the first half and Na Gaeil didn't. 4 shots for Steelstown in the first 30min 1-3 scores. Na Gaeil kicked at least 6 wides from frees alone in the first half and only scored 3 points. Na Gaeil started the 2nd half better and brought it back to a 1 point margin. Steelstown had a man sent off on a second yellow but Na Gaeil kicked the next 4 chances wide while Steelstown opened the gap to 3 again and missed nothing. In the final quarter Na Gaeil seemed to panic and tried to force goal scoring opportunities. They were turned over and counter attacked and should have conceded 2 further goals only for a save from Devon Burns and a ball that hit the crossbar. Late into injury time Steelstown managed to manufacture a 2 on 2 situation with only Stefan and Devon Burns back. Steelstown rounded the goalkeeper Burns and he handtripped the player getting a black card and giving away the penalty. In the middle of bodies Stefan seemed to fall over and has a very severe shoulder injury. He was down over 20mins and taken away by ambulance. This is obviously a massive blow for Na Gaeil facing into a year where they will play Senior Football, but for Stefan who would have got great benefit from being involved in Kerry training this year. I was listening to James O'Donoghue on the Football Pod with Paddy Andrews and he was talking about how his shoulder injuries ruined his Kerry career. I hope Stefan gives himself the proper time to recover and gets a chance to be around the Kerry panel anyway.
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Post by Mickmack on Jan 30, 2022 11:36:36 GMT
Leinster Leader by Tommy Callaghan
27 Jan 2022
It could hardly get more difficult for Glenn Ryan and his management team than to take on Kerry in the opening game of the 2022 Allianz Football League, Division 1, this Sunday (January 30) with a 1.45pm throw-in.
And with Jack O'Connor returning to St Conleth's Park for the first time since his departure from The Lilies, that adds a little spice to the occasion without a doubt.
“It is an exciting game to be looking forward to but it is not the be-all-and-end-all, I'm sure there will be plenty of side-shows that people will be talking about that are of no relevance, if we play football for these sideshows, it is for the wrong reason.”
The words of Glenn Ryan as he looks forward to his side's opening Allianz Football League clash.
“First game of the League, but among the panel there was great enthusiasm about playing Westmeath and against Carlow and Laois (O'Byrne Cup) and that is what you want; obviously a lot more at stake playing Kerry, not going to fool ourselves to that degree, but it is not going to define us one way or the other, it will be, hopefully, be part of us getting better” adds the Round Towers man.
While thus far some 34 or 35 players have seen game time in the O'Byrne Cup, it is the lads that have not yet appeared that fans are most concerned about. Ultra cautious Glenn says “we will see how they are going, they will get game time if they are right, if they are not right, they won't; it is important to get fellas on to he pitch who are 100 per cent, we won't be rushing anyone back, if an extra week means they will be 100 per cent right they will get that extra time, the rush will come when they are right.”
As far as what team will be named for the Kerry game, well, Glenn is, hardly surprising, keeping that close to his chest and considering he has not finalised his panel as of yet, that is understandable.
However he did admit “we would have a fair idea of the best XV that we think might be available to us for Kerry; how close we are to that not too sure.”
Kildare missed out on an O'Byrne Cup final against Dublin last weekend and instead had to settle for an in-house final prep game amongst the panel instead, it will be very interesting to see what the starting team will be.
Meantime the backroom team has all been finalised at this stage, with Dave Hare confirmed as the Strength & Conditioning coach. Hare has been working with Dublin Development squads and St Jude's in the city and is certainly a highly thought of trainer in this regard.
The physio is Kildare native Breiffni O'Donnell who runs a Physiotherapy Clinic in Craddockstown Golf Club. Breiffni has been involved with various Kildare teams in recent years, and is also connected to Naas Rugby Club and the Moorefield GAA Club.
Rumours of a Skills Coach have been circulating for some time and Glenn confirmed that former Kerry great, Paul Galvin is “lending a hand in this regard.” A talented and controversial player in his day, Galvin has four All-Ireland senior medals to his name, seven Munster medals and a host of other achievements. He was Player of the Year in 2009 and won three All-Star Awards, he managed Wexford footballers in 2019, replacing Kildare's Paul McLoughlin, but resigned some 12 months later, due to work commitments (not having played any championship due to covid). He could certainly prove to be some addition to Kildare.
Glenn, somewhat playing down Galvin's appointment said “He (Galvin) has been in a few nights; he is helping out with the skills, helping out and trying to improve elements in that regard and looking at where we can improve, adding “no different to what we would have been doing anyway; an extra pair of eyes; just a very low involvement.”
While suggesting that Galvin's appointment would certainly make the headlines, Glenn replied, “there should be more important things to be focusing on; he is part and parcel of a team where everyone has an in-put, all important, from perspective it is important we get the right people to do those jobs that we think need to be done; if there is a bit of talk about it .... there should be other things to talk about.”
During the O'Byrne campaign Kildare have no doubt been moving well and while the manager seemed quiet happy with the way his squad was performing he added “I'd be very happy with the players enthusiasm to try and do things and their enthusiasm to work and to tackle and maybe do the right things off the pitch along with the right things on it; you can't judge everything on the opposition or maybe the time of the year; maybe they will all be better, as we will, in time.
“The one thing we have little control of is the attitude of the players when they go out on to the field, that should all be in their control, whether it be on the pitch, in the gym, or training, everything we have asked them to do so far has been met with a great enthusiasm and a great desire to try and get better and improve and this is out job on a management team and build on the hard work that has been done by Jack O'Connor and Cian O'Neill and other managers who have put a lot of time into those players.”
Kildare opened a new gym at the end of 2021 and Glenn is fulsome in his praise for that particular venture.
“The new gym is brilliant and to have everything here under the one roof so to speak, when you look at the challenges that were here previously, particularly for Jack O'Connor over the past couple of years what with covid, the gym in the industrial estate in Newbridge; the pitch here, everything under the one roof is a huge bonus.
“A great facility; great foresight to have it, it is called The Oaks, and it is not just for the senior team it is a facility that will be used all the way down to the Development Squads and getting back to the Great Oak Trees from little acorns grow and all that, that is why it is called The Oaks, to show that development of lads growing and maturing and getting and growing into something we can be proud about, and of course the whole connection with Kildare, the Church of the Oak, it ties it well; great to have it there and now it is important that we get the best use of it.”
The link between the minor, U20 and senior players is vitally important in any county and the new management team in Kildare certainly are taking that on board.
“We have been speaking with the U20 and the minor managements; one night we were doing a set of runs in one part of the running area in Hawkfield; the U20s were warming up before they went out and the minors were over at the other side warming up, so you had the whole of Kildare football from minor to U20 to senior level in a 50m sq area and that can only be a good thing with the minors looking to the U20s and the U20s looking to the senior; Brian Flanagan, Mark Scanlon, Hughie Lynch, Eamonn Callaghan, we know each other; we have all played and got great pride from playing with Kildare, we all have a role in making Kildare better — not just making our own teams better — it is very important I think; we will be working together.”
There is little doubt that there will be huge interest, not just in the opening game of the league, against Kerry but throughout the entire seven match programme, three at home and four away and while Glenn says it is great to see the interest, he does put in a caveat in that regard.
“It is great to see it but there has been a problem in Kildare for a long time and we have to temper that enthusiasm with realism and what it is that we ultimately achieve is what we should be judged on and not the peaks and troughs, people getting high after one game and burying us after another.
“We will try to get the consistency out of these lads on a daily basis and if we get that on any one day and are happy with the commitment and the effort and everything that they show; some days we will play well; others day we won't, it is be realistic as I say, about performances and try to judge them on the one constant we want, work-rate and effort and we see what happens after that.
“We have ideas and will work towards consistency over time; there are certain things we can control ourselves and those are the things we want to be consistent with; our attitude and application.”
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