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Post by Mickmack on Oct 23, 2020 21:41:08 GMT
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NEWS SPORT LIFESTYLE OPINION Kerry showing safety-first approach the way forward this season Precautionary steps helping Kingdom stay ahead of Covid Kerry showing safety-first approach the way forward this season Kerry manager Peter Keane was rigorous in adhering to the rules. Picture: INPHO/Ryan Byrne
FRI, 23 OCT, 2020 - 20:11 JOHN FOGARTY
Watching League Sunday last weekend, one inter-county manager admitted his embarrassment when he saw his counterparts wearing masks and snoods during the games.
“Peter Keane never took his mask off, Dessie Farrell had his mask on, James Horan had a snood,” he said. “I wore nothing. I won’t be doing it again.”
The manager in question would have been just as impressed as Keane moved out to the middle of the Páirc Grattan field in Inniskeen to take post-match print and online interviews and insisted on social distancing being respected.
It’s to the likes of Kerry, Dublin, and Mayo that many counties are turning to for best Covid practice. What Kerry did — in deciding that players, management, and support teams drive themselves to and from south Monaghan last Friday and Saturday — was more than what was recommended.
The GAA Covid-19 advisory group had insisted on teams taking two buses instead of one but Keane, county chairman Tim Murphy and county Covid officer Liam Lynch and team Covid officer/dietician Deirdre Kelly saw risk attached to that and no sense in doing that when players were being told to travel to training by themselves.
For a number of months, Kerry had been making the case to Croke Park for neutral venues but when that request was rejected they went about putting together their own travel protocols.
The decision to drive north was mocked in some quarters in the county, some supporters questioning putting players through eight to 10-hour return drives and to a county that was at level 4 restrictions at the time when Kerry, with a relatively low number of cases, was level 3. Seven days later though and not only are the Kingdom two points away from a Division 1 title but no Covid tests have been required.
Excluding the overnight stay in the Nuremore Hotel in Carrickmacross where each player had a room of their own and ate at their own table for all four meals, the mileage cost for the players alone would have come close to €7,000. Factor in everyone else (selector Maurice Fitzgerald didn’t make the trip but is expected back on the sideline in Austin Stack Park on Saturday) and it was likely double the cost had the game been played in normal circumstances back in March.
Learn more But the expense was trivial.
As per Covid match regulations, Kerry were entitled to use the showers in Inniskeen. Instead, they made the short drive back to the hotel to shower in their own rooms, checked out and ate before they each made the long journey south.
The measures taken by kitmen Eddie Walsh and Colm Whelan were just as detailed, a coatrack with the jerseys hung up before the game and a kit bin for used gear afterwards with hand sanitiser and fresh snoods readily available.
The safety-first approach is being applied in the centre of excellence in Currans too where there are strict guidelines. And save for a few like Peter Crowley who is a pharmacist in Killorglin and teachers such as Jason Foley, Jonathan Lyne, Tadhg Morley, and Shane Ryan, the vast majority of the players had been working or studying from home prior to level 5 restrictions coming into force on Thursday.
In Dublin, the likes of Stephen Cluxton and Ciarán Kilkenny (teachers) and Michael Fitzsimons (doctor) but at the very least are living in the county.
That’s not the same for Mayo as a number still live and work in the capital.
The advice to work from home and the two-day warning earlier this week would have allowed some players not living in their counties to return home. At the same time, to go back to live with parents carries risk.
Some of the bigger counties have been able to organise alternative living arrangements — Tipperary, for example, put up some of their hurlers in temporary accommodation for a couple of weeks upon returning from their March training trip in Spain so that they didn’t potentially expose their family members.
In this season of all seasons, safety is as much an asset as anything else.
The ones left standing on December 13 and 19 might turn out the ones who protected themselves best.
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Post by Mickmack on Oct 23, 2020 21:48:49 GMT
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Ian O'Riordan Wed, Oct 21, 2020, 19:47 0 The GAA have confirmed their Central Competitions Control Committee (CCCC) agreed to stage Kerry’s final round meeting with Donegal in Division One of the Allianz Football League on the Saturday after factoring in the distance between the counties.
Traditionally, all final games in the league take place simultaneously, in part so that no team gets an advantage over the other in what they may or may not need from the final game. Although the Kerry-Donegal game is a standalone tie in Tralee on Saturday (2.0), the other three Division One games are all set for 2.0pm on the Sunday.
The other three divisions also conclude either this Saturday or Sunday.
Donegal manager Declan Bonnar outlined earlier this week some of the distances involved, his players travelling down individually on the Friday evening to stay overnight in Kerry.
For some, it means a roundtrip journey of almost 1,000km, Carndonagh-based Conor O’Donnell facing a 487km trek, Neil McGee and Daire Ó Baoill will drive 458km from Gaoth Dobhair and Jason McGee will make a 465km journey from Falcarragh.
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Post by Mickmack on Oct 23, 2020 21:49:40 GMT
Long shaughraun from Carndonagh!!!
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Post by jackiel on Oct 23, 2020 22:10:53 GMT
Irish Examiner Logo NEWS SPORT LIFESTYLE OPINION Kerry showing safety-first approach the way forward this season Precautionary steps helping Kingdom stay ahead of Covid Kerry showing safety-first approach the way forward this season Kerry manager Peter Keane was rigorous in adhering to the rules. Picture: INPHO/Ryan Byrne FRI, 23 OCT, 2020 - 20:11 JOHN FOGARTY Watching League Sunday last weekend, one inter-county manager admitted his embarrassment when he saw his counterparts wearing masks and snoods during the games. “Peter Keane never took his mask off, Dessie Farrell had his mask on, James Horan had a snood,” he said. “I wore nothing. I won’t be doing it again.” The manager in question would have been just as impressed as Keane moved out to the middle of the Páirc Grattan field in Inniskeen to take post-match print and online interviews and insisted on social distancing being respected. It’s to the likes of Kerry, Dublin, and Mayo that many counties are turning to for best Covid practice. What Kerry did — in deciding that players, management, and support teams drive themselves to and from south Monaghan last Friday and Saturday — was more than what was recommended. The GAA Covid-19 advisory group had insisted on teams taking two buses instead of one but Keane, county chairman Tim Murphy and county Covid officer Liam Lynch and team Covid officer/dietician Deirdre Kelly saw risk attached to that and no sense in doing that when players were being told to travel to training by themselves. For a number of months, Kerry had been making the case to Croke Park for neutral venues but when that request was rejected they went about putting together their own travel protocols. The decision to drive north was mocked in some quarters in the county, some supporters questioning putting players through eight to 10-hour return drives and to a county that was at level 4 restrictions at the time when Kerry, with a relatively low number of cases, was level 3. Seven days later though and not only are the Kingdom two points away from a Division 1 title but no Covid tests have been required. Excluding the overnight stay in the Nuremore Hotel in Carrickmacross where each player had a room of their own and ate at their own table for all four meals, the mileage cost for the players alone would have come close to €7,000. Factor in everyone else (selector Maurice Fitzgerald didn’t make the trip but is expected back on the sideline in Austin Stack Park on Saturday) and it was likely double the cost had the game been played in normal circumstances back in March. Learn more But the expense was trivial. As per Covid match regulations, Kerry were entitled to use the showers in Inniskeen. Instead, they made the short drive back to the hotel to shower in their own rooms, checked out and ate before they each made the long journey south. The measures taken by kitmen Eddie Walsh and Colm Whelan were just as detailed, a coatrack with the jerseys hung up before the game and a kit bin for used gear afterwards with hand sanitiser and fresh snoods readily available. The safety-first approach is being applied in the centre of excellence in Currans too where there are strict guidelines. And save for a few like Peter Crowley who is a pharmacist in Killorglin and teachers such as Jason Foley, Jonathan Lyne, Tadhg Morley, and Shane Ryan, the vast majority of the players had been working or studying from home prior to level 5 restrictions coming into force on Thursday. In Dublin, the likes of Stephen Cluxton and Ciarán Kilkenny (teachers) and Michael Fitzsimons (doctor) but at the very least are living in the county. That’s not the same for Mayo as a number still live and work in the capital. The advice to work from home and the two-day warning earlier this week would have allowed some players not living in their counties to return home. At the same time, to go back to live with parents carries risk. Some of the bigger counties have been able to organise alternative living arrangements — Tipperary, for example, put up some of their hurlers in temporary accommodation for a couple of weeks upon returning from their March training trip in Spain so that they didn’t potentially expose their family members. In this season of all seasons, safety is as much an asset as anything else. The ones left standing on December 13 and 19 might turn out the ones who protected themselves best. MORE IN THIS SECTION I have to say after watching the Kerry lads and how they carried on I was surprised to see other management/backrooms being a lot less vigilant over the weekend.There's a lot of negative reporting around the GAA at the moment, yes I'm biased but it's good to be on the right side for once.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2020 22:42:06 GMT
A few things of note in that article
1. The Kerry setup is very professional 2. Money does matter. Not every county could take the measures Kerry did 3. The whole thing is still on a knife edge. Top athletes across a number of different sports have got the virus, Kerry will be lucky to emerge unscathed
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Post by diego on Oct 24, 2020 9:12:32 GMT
No sign of the likes of Michael Murphy, Neil McGee or Ryan McHugh today.
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Post by ataboy on Oct 24, 2020 9:15:35 GMT
It is a shame that the substitutes are not announced. I cannot understand the reasoning behind this approach. Thanks to my neighbour I will be able to see it. 2 changes to substitutes from last week. Jack Barry and Stephen O'Brien in for Pa Kilkenny and Joe O'Connor.
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Post by veteran on Oct 24, 2020 10:05:49 GMT
It is a shame that the substitutes are not announced. I cannot understand the reasoning behind this approach. Thanks to my neighbour I will be able to see it. 2 changes to substitutes from last week. Jack Barry and Stephen O'Brien in for Pa Kilkenny and Joe O'Connor. Ataboy, may I ask you where did you get that information?
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Post by homerj on Oct 24, 2020 10:14:17 GMT
So no Paul geaney or James o D in that panel either. Adrian Spillane missing too. Am I forgetting anybody else?
Are they training currently?
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Post by Donegalshannonranger on Oct 24, 2020 10:35:34 GMT
Looks like Declan has taken the sensible option and focusing on the Tyrone game, we are missing, Ban Gallagher, Neil McGee, Paul Brennan, McFadden-Ferry Ryan McHugh, McFadden, McBrearty and Murphy and McNeilis who is not available.Can only see a Kerry win here.
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Post by veteran on Oct 24, 2020 10:59:18 GMT
2 changes to substitutes from last week. Jack Barry and Stephen O'Brien in for Pa Kilkenny and Joe O'Connor. Ataboy, may I ask you where did you get that information? Had not seen Sylvester’s line up at time of last post. Sylvester tells us we will be playing in blue. Does that mean we have discarded that awful alternative strip that Paul Galvin foisted on us? Good riddance if that is the case.
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Oct 24, 2020 11:51:45 GMT
So no Paul geaney or James o D in that panel either. Adrian Spillane missing too. Am I forgetting anybody else? Are they training currently? No Jack Sherwood either.
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Oct 24, 2020 12:07:56 GMT
I think we know what we get from O'Brien, O'Donoghue, Spillane, Geaney and Sherwood. I don't think Keane set out to win the league, but to build a panel to win Sam. His entire career as Kerry manager depends on winning Sam. Nobody cares about league titles really. They are nice to have, but Sam is the goal. So if we can win the league without using all players it means we are even stronger as a panel. Given Geaney's recent injury worries and James' injuries too it is good to see them being kept away for now. Sherwood was key to Kerry's defence last year so we need to wrap him in cotton wool in my opinion.
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Post by diego on Oct 24, 2020 13:26:18 GMT
2 great goals. Gavin White with another sensational effort in to the Mitchels end he loves so much!
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Post by homerj on Oct 24, 2020 13:26:28 GMT
2-4 to 0-4 up already, huge burst of scores in last 5 mins, playing with 14 after a black card to Jason Foley
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Post by homerj on Oct 24, 2020 13:28:31 GMT
weve scored 2-4 in 8 mins, against the wind and with 14 men!
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Post by Mickmack on Oct 24, 2020 13:34:37 GMT
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Post by Mickmack on Oct 24, 2020 13:37:17 GMT
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Post by john4 on Oct 24, 2020 13:47:29 GMT
He got away with fouling the ball, 2 hops. Lucky
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Post by homerj on Oct 24, 2020 14:05:14 GMT
Jack Barry and O Brien on
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Post by diego on Oct 24, 2020 14:44:09 GMT
Nice to see Tony Brosnan pick up the MOTM award. What a bonus to have him in top form, after thinking he was gone for the year.
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Post by southward on Oct 24, 2020 15:07:03 GMT
He got away with fouling the ball, 2 hops. Lucky Hehe. Conor Lane will be sickened he missed that.
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Post by southward on Oct 24, 2020 15:10:24 GMT
Lovely pass from Tom O'Sullivan. He started the move back in defence too.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Oct 24, 2020 15:15:17 GMT
Back pre pandemic worries we were arguing over Donnie Buckley's exit from the camp.
I will hold my hand up and say I was disgusted by this and felt it would come back to haunt us.
On the evidence of the last 2 games I was completely wrong.
Kerry look very solid and are the real deal in my opinion.
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Post by Galway breeze on Oct 24, 2020 15:32:23 GMT
Great display of football by Kerry on the performance they would be favourite to win the championship.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Oct 24, 2020 15:46:59 GMT
Great to see Kerry playing well but were Donegal comparable to Galway last weekend?
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Post by jackiel on Oct 24, 2020 15:49:20 GMT
Major technical issues today so only managed to see about 10 mins of the second half. Liking the look of this team, congratulations to all involved. Good to see Tony Brosnan getting the chance and taking MOTM.
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Post by hatchetman on Oct 24, 2020 15:49:42 GMT
Calm down lads. Beating a second string Donegal whose minds are on next week hardly makes them favourites for Sam.
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Post by givehimaball on Oct 24, 2020 17:02:14 GMT
Calm down lads. Beating a second string Donegal whose minds are on next week hardly makes them favourites for Sam. Of the 15 who started today, there were only 6 starters from the Tyrone game last weekend. One of these 6 was Patton in goals. 3 of the remaining 5 were subbed off by Donegal. The 9 players who were dropped/rested were Michael Murphy Eoghan Ban Gallagher Neil McGee Ryan McHugh Hugh McFadden Paul Brennan Peadar Mogan Niall O’Donnell Anyone getting excited about anything based on the match today would need their head examined. Job done today, nice to get another league title to add to the books, most importantly no injuries, good to get game-time into the legs, even if it was probably nearer to a challenge match than a championship match in terms of intensity.
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Post by peanuts on Oct 24, 2020 17:25:15 GMT
Nice to see Tony Brosnan pick up the MOTM award. What a bonus to have him in top form, after thinking he was gone for the year. Played very well but I’d like to see him go for goal more often. He had goal opportunities today and again last week. He’s a great addition though.
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