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Post by taggert on Jan 26, 2020 9:13:44 GMT
Was there last night and a very entertaining opener. No doubt Dublin players and fans recognise we are a coming team and they are keen to keep their foot on our throats, metaphorically of course. Dublin resting Cluxton, Cooper, Jack Mc, and Mannion until late on, with Con O'C nursing inj. The missing Moran and Jack Barry a significant factor too - Jack for his ability to nullify Fenton and get forward, Moran for his presence and ability to pick out our fwds. Some obs: 1. Shane ignored G.Crowley in space at the end resulting in a give away score from a 50/50 kick out 2. Kilkenny lorded it in the second half and is their spiritual leader driving the comeback 3. Fenton was given the keys of Croke park in the first half 4. PG was attrocious and his half baked attempts at tackling were only second worst to his decisions and passing attempts which resulted in 1-1 or more to Dub. Their goal started with his awful attempt at a pass. Watch it back. 5. James looked v sharp but he needs to stay indide as he can kick anywhere around the D as was evidenced by fine scores there but wasteful attempts further out. 6. Paul Murphy in a free role, up the pitch in the second half, looked a class apart at times. Linking play and kicking scores. Not having the power to match Kilkenny et al in a pure defensive role but his movement and quick decision making further up the field second to none. 7. Tommy struggled for long periods - was confused himself as to his apparent station. 8. LK, MB and GOS all made v positive contributions off the bench. 9. Some of Dublins more powerful units like Philly, Small, Kilkenny, McManamon are very adept at throwing themselves to the ground when tackled asbifcto sayvto the referee, look I had to be fouled there.
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Post by ruralgaa on Jan 26, 2020 9:26:56 GMT
Good job we didn't name the subs, we could have lost!😜
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Post by onlykerry on Jan 26, 2020 10:03:23 GMT
Was at the game and have not watched it back to validate initial perceptions - ref was poor but reasonably consistent. Gave advantage to both sides which came to nought and went back to card a player later. Last Kerry free brought forward when Dublin player kicked ball away and this made a huge difference. We put Tommy Walsh inside but never really tried to kick it to him and yes this made him look ineffective - probably lack of team practice coming through. His strength to this team is aerial and we need to use it if we play him, his mobility is gone for general play at this level. Rustyness evident for both sides but a very encouraging effort from a Kerry perspective - looking forward to playing them again in late summer all going well.
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Post by dc84 on Jan 26, 2020 10:03:38 GMT
Another heartening aspect was there was a fair old kerry crowd there fair play to anyone who did the round trip. There was one thing that annoyed me for their goal beaglaoich was clearly injured for about 5 mins prior been taken off this led directly to the goal. Pk and co should have seen this and maybe the man himself shouldve gone down in the goalmouth to ensure he was taken off.hopefully we will learn from this
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Post by pillar on Jan 26, 2020 10:36:50 GMT
In fairness lads there talking about the Dubs being the greatest of all time,an experienced killing machine and our last 4 games have read 1 win,1 defeat and 2 draws with 3 of those games in Croke Park.Our finishing midfield was a rookie(Liam Kearney who did very well)and our centre forward SOS.We have 3 viable options to come in there.We have a forward line which the Dubs fear and when given ball will do damage.The most important part of our game now with the Dubs is how we defend them as a team and I honestly believe we are getting closer to finding the answer.Remember things going well we could be playing them in the Super 8s also so weve plenty time to be sharpening our tools.All in all last night was very positive given its day 1.
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Post by southward on Jan 26, 2020 10:39:09 GMT
How close were the 3 Dublin lads to Clifford when he took that last free? Nice sporting gesture by Rock after the score though.
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Post by onlykerry on Jan 26, 2020 11:25:51 GMT
Another heartening aspect was there was a fair old kerry crowd there fair play to anyone who did the round trip. There was one thing that annoyed me for their goal beaglaoich was clearly injured for about 5 mins prior been taken off this led directly to the goal. Pk and co should have seen this and maybe the man himself shouldve gone down in the goalmouth to ensure he was taken off.hopefully we will learn from this He seemed to be trying to "run off" a knock he got in the Davin/Hogan corner early in the game but it eventually took him out of the game. Management were aware but hoping for the best for the lad.
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Post by buck02 on Jan 26, 2020 11:28:40 GMT
Was at the game and thought the ref did a poor job- he was much too prominent and unpredictable- think he contributed hugely to the frustration esp in last few mins- and the he decided to play for the draw. What did SoS do to get sent off? He is a fine player- not as skillful as Clifford but imo, at least as valuable- maybe more. As stated earlier our midfield was weak and definitely we need to get smarter/cuter on game management- dublin have that mastered in some clever and some awful ways but they are being rewarded for it ,not punished so we have to address that. First or a few meeting this year i think and not a bad start to 2020 at all Seanie was sent off for an off the ball foul on Fenton, when Dublin had a free under the Cusack, about 2 and a half minutes before they got the free to go a point up. Fenton ran up to the ref to remind him of the incident - he had probably forgotten it - which again shows the street smarts of this Dublin team. Very enjoyable game. It would have been a shame to have lost and surely have played on our minds for later in the year. I wouldn't bee too critical on Shane Ryan. I doubt anybody here has stood on the 20 metre line with the Hill behind you, floodlights glaring and 40000 people roaring at you. It's another learning curve. Better to find this out in January. The refs performance was symptomatic of the burdens we have placed on refs with the couple of hundred rules that are in place in a game that is usually played at a breakneck pace. I thought there was 10 minutes in the second half when he totally favoured Dublin (one of the frees he gave when the Dublin player shot wide was laughable). Although I then had Dubs on my way out telling me the ref must have been from Kerry! Saw a bit of a scuffle in the crowd at the end of the game and a friend in another part of the ground saw something similar.
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Post by kerrygold on Jan 26, 2020 11:30:19 GMT
I doubt JMcC would have kicked that ball away under Gavin. Lots of mouthing back from Dublin towards the ref last night. Long may it continue. Both teams well off the pace at the moment. Meaningless game/outcome in the greater scheme of things. Though the ref was very poor. The new mark will ruin the game slowly. Mark = very cheap score.
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Post by veteran on Jan 26, 2020 12:08:34 GMT
I was fearful when I saw the Dublin selection but considering everything one has to be pleased with coming back with a point.
I found it difficult to assess the game overall watching it on TV and one wasn’t helped by Marty and Oisin who were very poor and who seemed to be very reluctant to be definitive about refereeing decisions. They occupy the best seats in the stadium and therefore have a bird’s eye view of proceedings. One point I would make is that Dublin are far more streetwise than us and I suppose that comes from playing at the top level for so long. Indeed , their management seem to be more streetwise as well. One small example in the latter category was illustrated at the throw in. Why was Tommy Walsh not delegated to station himself at midfield for the throw in. A trivial matter perhaps but we need only reflect back to the All-Ireland to realise how important the throwin can be.
All through the game we seemed to be under pressure in getting our kicks out away while Dublin usually got theirs away effortlessly. Shane panicked for one late in the game when he seemed to have options although one must be mindful of the fact that he made a terrific save from Ciaran Kilkenny in the second half which kept us in the game.
I am not sure who was picking up Brian Fenton in the first half but clearly who ever it was decided to mark Brian by merely using his remote control. I cannot understand how management allowed this to happen for the entire half not withstanding our depleted forces in this area. Matters improved in the second half . Liam Kearney confirmed the promise he displayed in the county championship.
Paul Geaney seemed to play too far outfield in the first half . Again, why one of our chief marksmen is stationed in the wilderness is beyond belief. This was remedied in the second half and as a result he was much more involved . It also meant that in a second game against Dublin he took a fist to the face from Philly McMahon as he was falling to the ground . Philly seems to specialise in that type of tackle. Mumbling Oisin told us he was aiming for the ball! Poor Tommy Walsh seemed to be lost. In his defense only one high ball was put in his direction. Could he not have been brought to midfield occasionally for some of our kick outs rather than allowed to languish inside all the time.
That Graham O’Sullivan looks to be a good player and gives us a badly needed option at the back. His black card looked farcical. If that incident happened in a horse race the stewards would proclaim “ no interference” . If a player is being put off there should be no room for doubt.
Adrian Spillane and Brian O’Beaglaigh look to have picked up serious ankle injuries. I am not sure what the rule is regarding stopping play for injuries but Adrian was down for an inordinate amount of time and as far as I can recall Dublin scored during that time .
The curse of the phantom 45 struck again at the Hill 16 end. This time Paddy Andrews was the beneficiary.
I know I am as biased as the next man but Dublin’s penalty was on the dubious side. Needless to say , Oisin hummed and hawed over it.
Michael Burns added energy when he came on. However , he would need to stop getting involved in sideshows. When the free is awarded accept it gratefully. After getting our last free he needlessly got involved with a Dublin player. I fretted the referee would over turn the decision and thereby cost us the match. An example of lacking street cunning.
I feared for young David with that last free. A miss would have overshadowed the goal. How could I doubt the kid. How lovely it was to see Dean Rock give him a congratulatory tap when the ball went over- as much as to say , I know how difficult that was, I was that soldier. Ah yes, the attitude of the Rocks always has been to live and let live.
I have mostly concentrated on the negatives from a Kerry perspective, the goal being minimise the negatives for the rest of the year.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Jan 26, 2020 12:14:27 GMT
I was at Ballybofey game and saw most of our own afterwards, both refs appeared more sensitive to hands going anywhere near the head of the opponent in possession. Hard for spectators to spot so refs need a break here and there can be no leeway for that sort of challenge. Also hard to differentiate between a hand touching the back as opposed to a push, and plenty of acting makes it even harder to ref. Simple message to players and I'd say in a tight match the ref will err on the side of caution -ah sure there are plenty of other ways to tackle a la Donie Buck.
Captaincy rule in Kerry must change so that most suitable man fulfills that role, it is a big plus for Murphy with Donegal and now with our own David -benefits him and team, and must also help communications with management -all helpful in a game of ever tightening margins. Amazing giving our pedigree that we stuck with such a known flaw all these years.
Great start and the difference was probably age related power to close out a game - can we close that gap? We are pure class, even apart from DC's magic goal, it is even better than it looks at a glance - single handedly manufactured it out of nothing, 'twould be easier to list skills it didn't include!
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Post by sullyschoice on Jan 26, 2020 12:19:43 GMT
I thought this was a great game to start the season. I would not subscribe to the view that Kerry will be disappointed. We showed great spirit throughout and especially in that last attack. Make no mistake Dublin were fully determined to win the game - and fielded a very strong team. We were unlucky with the injuries to BoB and Spillane. I thought we were also unlucky with reffing decisions. A lot of borderline decisions went to Dublin and of course some blatant incorrect ones. Whilst I thought the ref did ok it’s such a difficult job these days that one team can often be significantly impacted by ref decisions - this I believe happened to us last night. I think it’s because Dublin players are good at playing for the free and we are not. Unfortunately we will.need to start learning or else make sure we are 5 or 6 points up on teams (especially Dublin) going into last quarter. I only watched on telly and took some rough notes below:- 1st point for Dublin was not a free Adrian Spillane down injured for 2 mins when dub got second point Another soft free for dub 3rd point Dublin penalty was very harsh Soft frees for Dublin whose men stay down as if they have been bludgeoned with a hammer - mcmenamon , Philly Soft yellow given to o’brien 2nd half - Dublin get 45 as ball went wide off P Andrews - it should have been a kick out Another soft free against G O’Sullivan on McHugh - D Rock point in front of goal Kerry 3 balls dropped into goalie hands by 45th min Shane Enright charging through inside the D advantage being played but ref called it back ? SOS pointed from angle but could have been a goal of play was let go on. Stephen O’Brien easily dispossessed off kick out needlessly Dublin get a free for gods knows what straight in front of goal to score another easy point Tommy Walsh barely got a kick - Replaced by M Burns who looked well up for it. Philly Mc already on yellow hits S O’Shea straight in the face - free given but nothing else? G O’Sullivan did not look like a black card? 70th minute Shane kicks out a howler when plenty options on out wide - ended with Kilkenny getting equalising point ! S O’Shea poor shot selection - wide from 50 metres 76m - ref gives free to Dublin (Kilkenny running through) straight in front of goal - winning score . very dubious free! Cynical fouling by Dublin to stop kerry getting equaliser at the death. Clifford nails the free - not easy and pressure kick with S O’Shea off..Dubs doing usual stuff trying to put Clifford off as he waited a long time to take the pressure free. Other observations Kerry players slipping Pass back to goalie after kick out should be banned 4 steps again not being reffed - whats new . Dublins first point was off a free conceded by O Beaglaoich. He stuck boot in when Dub was going to pick up ball. It was a correct call to be fair.
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Post by greengreengrass on Jan 26, 2020 12:42:28 GMT
Just wondering on the sin bin, if a black card is given at 30-35 mins, does the added time at the end of the half count towards the sin bin time? Thought Eric lowndes ended up missing more than 10 mins myself but could be mistaken
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Post by Mickmack on Jan 26, 2020 12:51:00 GMT
Aaron Byrne didnt look like a rookie last night but an old hand blending seamlessly into the Dublin system. He looks like being the 2020 golden nugget.
All Dublin have to do to keep winning is to continue doing this. Comerford is better that Cluxton as the same age.
In the past 5 years they have found Fenton, Con, Howard, Small, Murchan and now Aaran Byrne.
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Post by greengreengrass on Jan 26, 2020 13:00:51 GMT
Dublin are absolute masters at finishing out games. If you watch basketball you will see that if a team is in possession and needs to take a game winning shot, they will waste as many seconds as possible before taking the shot in order to minimize the time for the opposition to go up the court and get a shot off themselves once possession turns over. Dublin did this absolutely masterfully in the last few minutes last night. On a separate note, shouldn't the last two fouls by the Dublin players in the lead up to kerrys equalizer have resulted in black cards? I know it was so late in the game that a sin binning may not have changed things a whole lot but in the interest of consistency I believe they should have been shown.
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Post by egbabroad on Jan 26, 2020 13:35:24 GMT
Kick outs are not just the responsibility of the keeper. I thought in the 2nd half we were not showing enough for Shane. He can pick a good pass if the options are there. The legs were tired and maybe an element of confidence from the outfield players. This needs work on the training field
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Post by southward on Jan 26, 2020 13:46:28 GMT
Aaron Byrne didnt look like a rookie last night but an old hand blending seamlessly into the Dublin system. He looks like being the 2020 golden nugget. All Dublin have to do to keep winning is to continue doing this. Comerford is better that Cluxton as the same age. In the past 5 years they have found Fenton, Con, Howard, Small, Murchan and now Aaran Byrne. The McHugh fella looked decent too. Sean Bugler came on and was brought off 4 times last night (3 times as blood sub). Surely an appearance record.
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Post by Kingdomson on Jan 26, 2020 13:59:17 GMT
The match between Dublin and Kerry was a good contest in that it remained a tight affair throughout with some fantastic displays of individual skill but this was not a good game of gaelic football by any means.
The game itself is becoming garbage (the second half last night was putrid) and increasingly difficult to watch. Looking at the All Ireland senior club final last weekend and the match yesterday evening it was disheartening, as the game has become a hybrid of basketball and rugby league.
There was a time one could re-watch matches over and over but not anymore – once is enough in most cases. Between the way the game is coached to nth degree and cynicism of spoiling, time wasting and holding possession like on a basketball court it has become increasingly difficult to enjoy. This game was very similar to parts of the All Ireland matches played out between these two in that once Dublin put the squeeze on in those last 15 minutes Kerry began to panic and made way more mistakes. Dublin are a smarter and more intelligent team and this was proven in the All Ireland finals last September and was no different last night. My take away is that while we can more than match Dublin for football (when its possible to play) Dublin remain a physically stronger and far smarter team than Kerry with better decision makers on the field under pressure. We can't blame a lack of experience either as we has plenty of it on the field.
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Jan 26, 2020 14:11:37 GMT
Anyone have our bench from last night?
Also someone mentioned the 4 steps earlier- James McCarthy never takes less than 6. Also funny how there is always trouble at the end of game Dublin don’t win, almost like they don’t it when their plethora of advantages don’t work out for them
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Post by diego on Jan 26, 2020 14:12:09 GMT
Just wondering on the sin bin, if a black card is given at 30-35 mins, does the added time at the end of the half count towards the sin bin time? Thought Eric lowndes ended up missing more than 10 mins myself but could be mistaken Added time is included in the 10 minutes. He got the black with 37:00 on the clock, half time came at 40:00. Got back on at 42:30 which was first break in play after 7 minute mark of the 2nd half.
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Post by glengael on Jan 26, 2020 14:18:24 GMT
I was fearful when I saw the Dublin selection but considering everything one has to be pleased with coming back with a point. I found it difficult to assess the game overall watching it on TV and one wasn’t helped by Marty and Oisin who were very poor and who seemed to be very reluctant to be definitive about refereeing decisions. They occupy the best seats in the stadium and therefore have a bird’s eye view of proceedings. One point I would make is that Dublin are far more streetwise than us and I suppose that comes from playing at the top level for so long. Indeed , their management seem to be more streetwise as well. One small example in the latter category was illustrated at the throw in. Why was Tommy Walsh not delegated to station himself at midfield for the throw in. A trivial matter perhaps but we need only reflect back to the All-Ireland to realise how important the throwin can be. All through the game we seemed to be under pressure in getting our kicks out away while Dublin usually got theirs away effortlessly. Shane panicked for one late in the game when he seemed to have options although one must be mindful of the fact that he made a terrific save from Ciaran Kilkenny in the second half which kept us in the game. I am not sure who was picking up Brian Fenton in the first half but clearly who ever it was decided to mark Brian by merely using his remote control. I cannot understand how management allowed this to happen for the entire half not withstanding our depleted forces in this area. Matters improved in the second half . Liam Kearney confirmed the promise he displayed in the county championship. Paul Geaney seemed to play too far outfield in the first half . Again, why one of our chief marksmen is stationed in the wilderness is beyond belief. This was remedied in the second half and as a result he was much more involved . It also meant that in a second game against Dublin he took a fist to the face from Philly McMahon as he was falling to the ground . Philly seems to specialise in that type of tackle. Mumbling Oisin told us he was aiming for the ball! Poor Tommy Walsh seemed to be lost. In his defense only one high ball was put in his direction. Could he not have been brought to midfield occasionally for some of our kick outs rather than allowed to languish inside all the time. That Graham O’Sullivan looks to be a good player and gives us a badly needed option at the back. His black card looked farcical. If that incident happened in a horse race the stewards would proclaim “ no interference” . If a player is being put off there should be no room for doubt. Adrian Spillane and Brian O’Beaglaigh look to have picked up serious ankle injuries. I am not sure what the rule is regarding stopping play for injuries but Adrian was down for an inordinate amount of time and as far as I can recall Dublin scored during that time . The curse of the phantom 45 struck again at the Hill 16 end. This time Paddy Andrews was the beneficiary. I know I am as biased as the next man but Dublin’s penalty was on the dubious side. Needless to say , Oisin hummed and hawed over it. Michael Burns added energy when he came on. However , he would need to stop getting involved in sideshows. When the free is awarded accept it gratefully. After getting our last free he needlessly got involved with a Dublin player. I fretted the referee would over turn the decision and thereby cost us the match. An example of lacking street cunning. I feared for young David with that last free. A miss would have overshadowed the goal. How could I doubt the kid. How lovely it was to see Dean Rock give him a congratulatory tap when the ball went over- as much as to say , I know how difficult that was, I was that soldier. Ah yes, the attitude of the Rocks always has been to live and let live. I have mostly concentrated on the negatives from a Kerry perspective, the goal being minimise the negatives for the rest of the year. You've covered most of the points that I wanted to make veteran and better expressed them than I would. Watched most of the match on TV, with the sound turned down. Marty and Oisin were not at the races at all.
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Post by greengreengrass on Jan 26, 2020 14:18:41 GMT
Just wondering on the sin bin, if a black card is given at 30-35 mins, does the added time at the end of the half count towards the sin bin time? Thought Eric lowndes ended up missing more than 10 mins myself but could be mistaken Added time is included in the 10 minutes. He got the black with 37:00 on the clock, half time came at 40:00. Got back on at 42:30 which was first break in play after 7 minute mark of the 2nd half. Thanks for clarifying, can see some issues with having to wait until the break in play to come back on. If you're a point and a man down against Dublin with anything less than 10 mins left there's every chance that they will just pass around you and the break in play wont come
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Post by diego on Jan 26, 2020 14:19:17 GMT
Anyone have our bench from last night? 16 Brian Kelly 17 Graham O'Sullivan 18 Killian Spillane 19 Micheál Burns 20 Jonathan Lyne 21 Liam Kearney 22 David Shaw 23 Dara Moynihan 24 Tony Brosnan 25 Pa Kilkenny 26 Adam O'Donoghue
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Post by augustafield on Jan 26, 2020 14:37:55 GMT
Observations on last night confirm Dubs street cred. Experts on killing time approaching end game . Experts at manufacturing soft frees . Experts at the sly/sneaky dig to the face on a falling opponent and in all other aspects of the game - cynical to the extreme . But at the end of the day they are winners . They use the rules to their own fashion. Refereeing decisions aside Kerry were in a clear position to at last lay the Dublin bogey but again were found wanting and probably lucky to eke out a draw in the end . We must take responsibility for that . As in both All Ireland finals last year last night was another example and exhibition of how the Dubs controlled the last 10 minutes of the game . They played at their pace and method . We have learned nothing . And a reality check - no C o C , or Cooper or McCaffery for Dubs . Would our missing players compare ? Finally is it a coincidence that after a recent O Byrne Cup match the Dubs were involved in a fracas after the game a la last night ? Lack of Gavin’s discipline or Farrell’s hard edge as referenced by Thomas O Shea’s recent article . All teams hoping to usurp the Dubs from the top table got a clear warning last night that they haven’t gone away.
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Post by thepope on Jan 26, 2020 17:32:28 GMT
Two things we need to be wary of. At times we have too many forwards on the pitch who can't tackle and this puts massive pressure on the defence. Clifford, Walsh, O'Donoghue and Geaney are all fairly weak in the tackle. I'd nearly prefer to see them not actually tackle and track the man instead of a weak effort and their man breaking up the field then.
When the Dubs squeeze we panic. Two very bad turnovers late on and Shane Ryan's inability to pick out some free men on kickouts is an ongoing issue. Same problem last year.
Clifford immense, Kilkenny too. Fenton lorded midfield for a good portion but you'd expect that with Moran, Barry and then Spillane gone. Not many teams can lose 3 midfielders and compete there.
Fair play to the kerry crowd who travelled. A good few at Junction 14 on way home with their kids too. Great effort considering we didn't get home til 2 in the morning.
See a few on other sites saying its a sign of kerry desperation that some celebrated a draw. To be fair, the Dubs were giving it the "cheerio" treatment to some kerry fans who left before the equaliser, so I think twas fair enough they got some back.
I don't know if it's a pleasant experience when you're supporting a team while being outnumbered 20-30/1 where you're sitting.
Plenty to work on but reasons to be optimistic.
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Post by dano on Jan 26, 2020 18:08:09 GMT
Watched on Gaago here in the US. disappointed we didn't hold on to the lead at the end but we were missing key players. Jack Barry wouldn't have let Fenton do what he did in first half.Dublin, of course, are brilliant at closing out a game and the reality is we need to be 6 + points up in the last quarter to have a chance. All in all a good night and well done to the huge Kerry crowd. We heard you loud and clear here in Chicago
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Post by dc84 on Jan 26, 2020 18:55:17 GMT
Observations on last night confirm Dubs street cred. Experts on killing time approaching end game . Experts at manufacturing soft frees . Experts at the sly/sneaky dig to the face on a falling opponent and in all other aspects of the game - cynical to the extreme . But at the end of the day they are winners . They use the rules to their own fashion. Refereeing decisions aside Kerry were in a clear position to at last lay the Dublin bogey but again were found wanting and probably lucky to eke out a draw in the end . We must take responsibility for that . As in both All Ireland finals last year last night was another example and exhibition of how the Dubs controlled the last 10 minutes of the game . They played at their pace and method . We have learned nothing . And a reality check - no C o C , or Cooper or McCaffery for Dubs . Would our missing players compare ? Finally is it a coincidence that after a recent O Byrne Cup match the Dubs were involved in a fracas after the game a la last night ? Lack of Gavin’s discipline or Farrell’s hard edge as referenced by Thomas O Shea’s recent article . All teams hoping to usurp the Dubs from the top table got a clear warning last night that they haven’t gone away. Agree with most of that except the absentees we were missing moran barry, sherwood and tom sullivan. Who are at least as important to us as the lads mentioned above are. Be like dublin missing fenton, howard and mcarthy would be tough for them aswell. The lack of a dominant midfielder is a massive gamechanger it totally effects your own kickouts and makes it difficult to press theirs. Having said that i think kearney and gavin o brien did very well in 2nd half.
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Post by misteallaigh abú on Jan 26, 2020 19:36:19 GMT
I watched the game with a few friends last night, one a Dub and the other a Kildare fan. It was interesting to hear the observations of my friend from Dublin. His synopsis was that Dublin have the talent to do the 6 in a row, however, he pointed out that there seemed to be a growing lack of discipline as the game wore on. He was adamant that the self discipline that Gavin had instilled had begun to unravel as the pressure came on.
We had it in our hands and should have closed the game out. The black for Graham O Sullivan was a hammer blow. Both teams gave us a brilliant game for early January and it was enthralling to watch. Indeed, I tipped in to Newbridge today to see how Jack O Connor’s Kildare outfit would manage against Ricey’s Fermanagh. Dear God it was like watching a completely different code. When Kerry and Dublin meet it is seldom a letdown. Liam Kearney looked good when he came on, very hard to be critical of any players last night, it’s early in the year and they are going through torturous training. Mistakes will happen and be punished, such is the way of things early in the year. A nice start to the year with lots to be positive about.
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Post by southward on Jan 26, 2020 20:03:15 GMT
I watched the game with a few friends last night, one a Dub and the other a Kildare fan. It was interesting to hear the observations of my friend from Dublin. His synopsis was that Dublin have the talent to do the 6 in a row, however, he pointed out that there seemed to be a growing lack of discipline as the game wore on. He was adamant that the self discipline that Gavin had instilled had begun to unravel as the pressure came on. We had it in our hands and should have closed the game out. The black for Graham O Sullivan was a hammer blow. Both teams gave us a brilliant game for early January and it was enthralling to watch. Indeed, I tipped in to Newbridge today to see how Jack O Connor’s Kildare outfit would manage against Ricey’s Fermanagh. Dear God it was like watching a completely different code. When Kerry and Dublin meet it is seldom a letdown. Liam Kearney looked good when he came on, very hard to be critical of any players last night, it’s early in the year and they are going through torturous training. Mistakes will happen and be punished, such is the way of things early in the year. A nice start to the year with lots to be positive about. "Ricey's Fermanagh" - just seeing those two words together would make you want to cry.
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Post by thebluepanther on Jan 26, 2020 21:46:18 GMT
Good enjoyable game last night. For January the skill levels were high Dublin and Kerry definetly bring out the best in each other and give the neutral great viewing . Before the game i wasn't expecting much from our lads . But all things considered i was very happy with their performance. Comerford in goals and Aaron Byrne looked comfortable in a big game. Ref was poor for both teams and i'm sure both sides will feel aggrieved with certain decisions. Kerry going 3 points up and again not closing it out will wrangle with management i'm sure. But Clifford showed great composure to equalise . Fenton was brilliant for us last night some of his point taking was class and Clifford when supplied with the right ball is nearly unmarkable , if i was Kerry id hope he doesn't get any injuries because a lot rests on this young mans shoulders, too much i feel. At the moment he is answering every question thrown at him, but even myself last night i had to remind myself how young he really is, it feels like he has been around for years. I enjoyed Rocks handshake to Clifford after he scored the equaliser and the little pat back from Clifford. A little melee at the end was very quickly followed by hand shakes all around. Only January and this game with have little relevance come Summer, but it still meant a lot to the players and both teams happy not to lose this one.
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