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Post by Whosinmidfield on Jan 9, 2020 17:46:15 GMT
The Sigerson cup gets underway this weekend. It is straight knockout this year. There will be a very large amount of Kerry players involved. IT Tralee have their strongest team in many years but if they beat IT Carlow on Sunday in Austin Stack Park they will face one of the favourites in UCC. The IT have players of the calibre of David Clifford, Gavin Crowley, Tony Brosnan, Barry John Keane, Dara Moynihan, Rob Wharton, Conor Keane, Michael Potts, Mark O'Shea, Jack Savage, Jack Morgan, Eddie Horan and Sean O'Connell. They also have Meath player Michael Gavin and Wicklow Seniors Thomas Kearns and Conor Byrne.
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Jan 9, 2020 19:42:32 GMT
Are all those lads fit for Tralee? I've heard there's a few injuries
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Post by kodie on Jan 9, 2020 21:06:18 GMT
I see the panels are released for teams? Anyone have a list of Kerry players involved in each college teams?
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Jan 9, 2020 22:05:34 GMT
Are all those lads fit for Tralee? I've heard there's a few injuries I think Eddie Horan is out for this weekend anyway. Dara Moynihan is nearing recovery from his injury and could play a part on Sunday. Thomas Kearns is struggling with a hamstring injury. Gavin Crowley is playing on Saturday with Templenoe. |
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Post by clubman on Jan 10, 2020 0:26:27 GMT
Highly unlikely there's any Kerry lad playing for IT Carlow?
If tralee get through id imagine there is a decent contingent from Kerry on the ucc panel
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Jan 10, 2020 7:55:13 GMT
Are all those lads fit for Tralee? I've heard there's a few injuries I think Eddie Horan is out for this weekend anyway. Dara Moynihan is nearing recovery from his injury and could play a part on Sunday. Thomas Kearns is struggling with a hamstring injury. Gavin Crowley is playing on Saturday with Templenoe. I’ve heard Moynihan, savage and Crowley are all doubts to play. The former 2 due to injury and the latter due to club commitments |
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Post by Galway breeze on Jan 12, 2020 17:12:33 GMT
Who are the management team of ITTralee?
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Post by greengold35 on Jan 12, 2020 17:28:27 GMT
Who are the management team of ITTralee? Liam Brosnan bainisteoir with Star, Aidan O’Mahony, Clive O’Callaghan, Eoin O’Shea & Joby Costello. |
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Jan 12, 2020 18:19:41 GMT
The amount of players who the IT were missing really hurt them but they should still have been good enough to beat Carlow. It was a really really poor performance. Their own kicouts were the main problem, they only won one or two of their own kickouts that went long. Still they could have won, Barry John Keane missed a sitter in the last minute. Tony Brosnan was very poor, don't think he's inter county standard.
UCC won a thriller against NUIG. Big Kerry involvement with a good few from Kerry missing as well. Daniel O'Brien impressed me, he's a very good footballer. UCC are very strong, they'll be very very hard to stop.
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Post by sullyschoice on Jan 12, 2020 18:35:10 GMT
I think Diarmaid O Connor played today after playing yesterday.
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Post by southward on Jan 12, 2020 18:38:41 GMT
I think Diarmaid O Connor played today after playing yesterday. Played the last 20 mins. Highlights here. |
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Post by Callitasitis on Jan 12, 2020 19:16:55 GMT
Ref rode Tralee but the losses of Gavin Crowley Michael Potts Dara Moynihan Cathal Ferriter Thomas Kearns Eddie Horan Greg Horan and suspension of goalkeeper hurt their chances big time. Heard the same excuses last year when they lost in Belfast easy to blame referees and missing players we don't know what players carlow were missing it's 15 v 15 on the day and tralee had enough quality on the pitch to win the game this is the colleges 4th defeat in their last 5 sigerson games |
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Jan 12, 2020 19:37:59 GMT
Tralee were missing a reckless amount of players alright. The refereeing performance was one of the worst I've ever seen. It was really bad in general although Tralee definitely came off worse.
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Jan 12, 2020 19:39:16 GMT
I think Diarmaid O Connor played today after playing yesterday. He came on in the second half. Killian Spillane started and played 57 minutes after playing yesterday. |
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Post by piggott on Jan 12, 2020 19:59:53 GMT
UCC will make semi final. Tralee hopeless against Carlow. The three goals they conceded were unforgivable. DC as good as ever.
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Post by Galway breeze on Jan 12, 2020 20:19:03 GMT
Well said mission impossible, there are more excuses on this forum every time a favorably team loses. Every county, college and club team has the same issues. Some are just better at managing and preparing their players.
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Jan 12, 2020 21:24:39 GMT
That's 2 teams that Donaghy has been involved with now that have massively underachieved - I'm just curious as to what he has done to be getting these positions? What has Mahoney done?
The team looked awful today - atrocious result and shockingly set up.
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Post by Leathama on Jan 12, 2020 22:42:03 GMT
Huge shock today, fair play to Carlow. Those absentees hard to absorb for any team.
Sigerson always throws up some upsets. UL also beaten today by Sligo IT. Few Kerry lads involved there.
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Post by sunny on Jan 12, 2020 22:55:29 GMT
Whatever about mahoney and star.. what has Liam Brosnan done ?
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Post by richard00 on Jan 13, 2020 0:22:02 GMT
Whatever about mahoney and star.. what has Liam Brosnan done ? Brosna relegated from division 2 and intermediate this year |
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Post by pullcash98 on Jan 13, 2020 12:30:56 GMT
Highly unlikely there's any Kerry lad playing for IT Carlow? If tralee get through id imagine there is a decent contingent from Kerry on the ucc panel No Kerry lad playing with IT Carlow. It looked Jamie Diggins a young man from Tarbert was part of the IT Carlow backroom team as a selector/trainer. Big commitment from the young Tarbert man |
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Post by theumpire on Jan 13, 2020 15:27:43 GMT
I was surprised Liam Brosnan was put over the strongest team Tralee had in 20 odd years. Not to be personal, but last few jobs have been far from impressive. ,Brosna suffered 2 relegations this year and lost a North Kerry Final to a Senans team missing about 5 starters from the previous year. Brosna looked poorly set up, with Senans dropping a man in front of Adam Barry and Paul Walsh, yet Brosna didnt even try to attempt to use their spare man effectively. Lateral passing across the 45, going nowhere and having their free man sitting 60 yards back contributing nothing letting the Senans sweeper eat up the space in front of Brosnas danger men unmolested. Just looked clueless.
He was invovled in a Limerick U20 team that lost by 28 points to a weakened Kerry team (minus Sean O'Shea and David Clifford).
Results with Tralee IT in the last few years havent been good.
He talks a good game on Terrace Talk about psychology and leadership and no doubt will be doing the same over the coming months etc and other pseudo nonsense but the fundamentals of basic management dont seem to be there. The 95% as opposed to the last 5%.
Tralee IT seem to target this type of manager, the last 3 managers have been Liam Brosnan, Stephen Wallace and Martin Horgan, self publicist figures. Close your eyes and listen to them and you would think its the same guy with the same rhetoric.
Compare these teams to Declan Sullivans Dromid, who arent the most talented bunch, but how he has them organised in a very simple way to get the very best out of them. A small pick , won SK, stayed in Division 2 and got to an intermediate semi final.
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Post by thesquareball on Jan 13, 2020 16:03:57 GMT
interview afterwards seems to apporiate all the shortcommings with the players,wasnot their so was that a fair assesment?
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Post by greengold35 on Jan 13, 2020 16:37:59 GMT
I was surprised Liam Brosnan was put over the strongest team Tralee had in 20 odd years. Not to be personal, but last few jobs have been far from impressive. ,Brosna suffered 2 relegations this year and lost a North Kerry Final to a Senans team missing about 5 starters from the previous year. Brosna looked poorly set up, with Senans dropping a man in front of Adam Barry and Paul Walsh, yet Brosna didnt even try to attempt to use their spare man effectively. Lateral passing across the 45, going nowhere and having their free man sitting 60 yards back contributing nothing. Just looked clueless. He was invovled in a Limerick U20 team that lost by 28 points to a weakened Kerry team (minus Sean O'Shea and David Clifford). Results with Tralee IT in the last few years havent been good. He talks a good game on Terrace Talk about psychology and leadership and no doubt will be doing the same over the coming months etc and other pseudo nonsense but the fundamentals of basic management dont seem to be there. The 95% as opposed to the last 5%. Tralee IT seem to target this type of manager, the last 3 managers have been Liam Brosnan, Stephen Wallace and Martin Horgan, self publicist figures. Close your eyes and listen to them and you would think its the same guy. Compare these teams to Declan Sullivans Dromid, who arent the most talented bunch, but how he has them organised in a very simple way to get the very best out of them. A small pick , won SK, stayed in Division 2 and got to an intermediate semi final. Very well put regarding the trio you mentioned - talk a great game but ... Wallace, at least, won AI junior titles but the other 2 have achieved very little - Horgan has been around a fair few clubs ( Desmond’s, Scart, St Kierans, Ardfert, Kilcummin to name a few ), and in most cases departed before the season ended. Brosnan has had a poor year but won’t be surprised to see him getting another gig on the managerial merry go round. |
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Post by glengael on Jan 13, 2020 16:40:01 GMT
IT Tralee stunned by late trio of Carlow goalsIT Tralee stunned by late trio of Carlow goals
Despite some occasional flashes of brilliance from David Clifford, this was a poor spectacle.
By Mortimer Murphy
Sunday, January 12, 2020 - 07:08 PM
IT Tralee 1-13 IT Carlow 3-9
IT Carlow hit three goals in the final 10 minutes to snatch victory from their IT Tralee hosts in Sunday's Sigerson Cup tie at Austin Stack Park.
Despite some occasional flashes of brilliance from David Clifford, this was a poor spectacle — but that will matter little to the victors, who trailed by six points entering the final stages.
The opening half was dominated by free kicks, a free-ridden affair with Clifford (5) and Barry John Keane (1) edging the hosts to a 0-7 to 0-5 interval lead, with Offaly senior Cian Farrell claiming all but one of his side’s tally.
When David Clifford swung over a trademark point on the resumption, it appeared that Tralee might kick on — but they were flat, and quality players were guilty of some basic errors as two Farrell points closed the gap to the minimum (0-8 to 0-7).
IT Tralee, who were forced to line out without three Kerry seniors — Michael Potts, Gavin Crowley, and Dara Moynihan — had scored the game’s opening goal in the 50th minute when Keane flicked to the net for a 1-10 to 0-7 lead.
But the 54th-minute sin-binning of Iarla Courtney was to prove costly as the visitors had goals from Adam Steed, Farrell (penalty), and Conor Doyle deep into injury time.
Incredibly, Tralee had a chance of a late winner, but Keane could only blaze over the bar from eight yards with a goal at his mercy.
Scorers for IT Carlow: C Farrell (1-6, 1-0 pen, 4 frees), C Doyle and A Steed (1- 0 each), E Lowry, P O’Connor and N Hughes (0-1 each).
Scorers for IT Tralee: D Clifford (0-7, 3 frees), B J Keane (1-3, 1 f), T Brosnan (0-3).
IT TRALEE: J Duggan (Kerry); M Fitzgerald (Kerry), M Gavin (Meath), J Morgan (Kerry); C Byrne (Wicklow), S Kelliher (Beaufort), J Myers (Kerry); M O’Shea (Kerry), P Clarke (Kerry); S O’Connell (Kerry), C Keane (Kerry), J Savage (Kerry); T Brosnan (Kerry), D Clifford (Kerry), B J Keane (Kerry).
Subs: J O’Sullivan (Kerry) for J Savage (42), I Courtney for P Clarke (47).
IT CARLOW: K Roche (Clare); T Collins (Laois), R Hitchcock (Laois), C Walsh (Wexford); C Doyle (Carlow), R Ryan (Meath), J Moore (Meath); S Ryan (Cork), A Steed (Kildare); E Lowry (Laois), C Byrne (Kildare), C Farrell (Offaly ); N Hughes (Wexford), P O’Toole (Wicklow), J Walsh (Offaly).
Subs: P O’Connor (Wicklow) for C Walsh (45), T Griffin (Limerick) for S Ryan (45), P Farrelly (Kildare) for J Walsh (50), S Crowley (Clare) for C Doyle (Blood 64).
Referee: D Murnane (Cork).
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Post by Galway breeze on Jan 13, 2020 17:23:40 GMT
To be a coach at senior level you need to know someone high up or have played at inter county level. Coaches don’t get selected on merit. No wonder clubs are struggling to get volunteers to take up coaching as they see no stepping process. I can’t understand why ITT don’t use past students to coach the college teams especially when they are delivering a coaching and S&C program. Do The institute not trust in their past students with degrees form them.
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Post by brucewayne on Jan 13, 2020 17:53:40 GMT
Did CIT pull out?
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Post by givehimaball on Jan 13, 2020 22:58:52 GMT
Didn't pull out - they are playing in the Trench Cup (the 2nd tier competition) |
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Post by kerrygreenandgold on Jan 13, 2020 23:47:00 GMT
With all the money being pumped into Tralee IT not only should they be looking at Liam Brosnan , they should be looking at the person who is over the GAA at Tralee IT . It’s beyond a joke that they are trying there best to drag in players just to play football. Like dragging in BJK to sit an exam that he has no interest in just so he can play football. How much are Donaghy and Mahoney getting ? It’s embarrassing that Carlow beat a team with numerous amount of well known players playing for Tralee IT. Again it’s the person over the whole of Tralee IT that needs to answer these questions. They could soon see themselves down in the Trench cup if problems are not solved .
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Post by Callitasitis on Jan 14, 2020 6:57:29 GMT
With all the money being pumped into Tralee IT not only should they be looking at Liam Brosnan , they should be looking at the person who is over the GAA at Tralee IT . It’s beyond a joke that they are trying there best to drag in players just to play football. Like dragging in BJK to sit an exam that he has no interest in just so he can play football. How much are Donaghy and Mahoney getting ? It’s embarrassing that Carlow beat a team with numerous amount of well known players playing for Tralee IT. Again it’s the person over the whole of Tralee IT that needs to answer these questions. They could soon see themselves down in the Trench cup if problems are not solved . Eamon Fitzgerald is in charge of appointing the football management team for IT Tralee he is a full time employee of the college through Kerry county board/munster council GDA and from a hurling background never kicked a football |
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