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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2019 20:06:39 GMT
Playing Gavin White as a half forward is an experiment that hasn't worked out well imo, he's got 2 black cards playing there in recent weeks. When he does find himself near goal he's reluctant to have a go. He seems more comfortable closer to our own goal. Gavin’s primary role has been to negate Ryan McHugh and Donal Keoghan for these two games. He has mixed the good and the bad but I don’t see any better alternatives at the moment.
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Post by john4 on Aug 8, 2019 20:10:44 GMT
Playing Gavin White as a half forward is an experiment that hasn't worked out well imo, he's got 2 black cards playing there in recent weeks. When he does find himself near goal he's reluctant to have a go. He seems more comfortable closer to our own goal. Gavin’s primary role has been to negate Ryan McHugh and Donal Keoghan for these two games. He has mixed the good and the bad but I don’t see any better alternatives at the moment. I'd prefer to see Paul Murphy in the half forward line and Gavin White in the half back line
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 8, 2019 20:23:07 GMT
the current Tyrone team are very clean. I should have added "compared to the previous gang of outlaws of Ricey, Mulligan, Gormley, McMahons etc"
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Post by Kingdomson on Aug 8, 2019 20:27:19 GMT
www.hoganstand.com/Article/Index/302634Sean Cavanagh has predicted that Tyrone will have too much physically for Kerry in Sunday’s All-Ireland SFC semi-final. Mickey Harte’s men are 6/4 outsiders to topple the Kingdom at Croke Park but Cavanagh can’t see the Munster champions matching his home county’s physical approach nor nullifying their threat inside. “Tyrone are experts at shutting out opposition key players and Sean O’Shea, David Moran and David Clifford will find that out with interest,” the three-time All-Ireland winner wrote in his column for the Irish Daily Star. “But the big question is whether Kerry’ young guns can physically impose themselves and defend like the same young maniacs that graced Croke Park 16 years ago in white. “I think not. Tyrone will have physically too much for Kerry across the pitch and their defensive system will nullify Kerry’s attack somewhat. “I just don’t see who Kerry can use to stop (Cathal) McShane and Mattie Donnelly if, as expected, they start up front together. Tyrone to win by a couple of points.” The 'clean boys' from Tyrone have already started their mind games. First step - threaten the opposition with physical hell. Second step - try to carry it out on Sunday. PS: We like to play football in Kerry Sean.
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Post by john4 on Aug 8, 2019 20:35:14 GMT
Latest weather for Sunday is for a dry day
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Post by kerryboy83 on Aug 8, 2019 21:11:56 GMT
www.hoganstand.com/Article/Index/302634Sean Cavanagh has predicted that Tyrone will have too much physically for Kerry in Sunday’s All-Ireland SFC semi-final. Mickey Harte’s men are 6/4 outsiders to topple the Kingdom at Croke Park but Cavanagh can’t see the Munster champions matching his home county’s physical approach nor nullifying their threat inside. “Tyrone are experts at shutting out opposition key players and Sean O’Shea, David Moran and David Clifford will find that out with interest,” the three-time All-Ireland winner wrote in his column for the Irish Daily Star. “But the big question is whether Kerry’ young guns can physically impose themselves and defend like the same young maniacs that graced Croke Park 16 years ago in white. “I think not. Tyrone will have physically too much for Kerry across the pitch and their defensive system will nullify Kerry’s attack somewhat. “I just don’t see who Kerry can use to stop (Cathal) McShane and Mattie Donnelly if, as expected, they start up front together. Tyrone to win by a couple of points.” The 'clean boys' from Tyrone have already started their mind games. First step - threaten the opposition with physical hell. Second step - try to carry it out on Sunday. PS: We like to play football in Kerry Sean. Don’t know what Sean is basing is information on. Tyrone haven’t beaten any Division 1 team this year yet in the championship? Seriously think this guy is an idiot. Yes Tyrone may win but his analysis is rubbish. After all he claimed that Tyrone were the best running side in last years championship 😏😏😏
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Post by The16thMan on Aug 8, 2019 21:54:53 GMT
Is the upper tier opened Sunday No upper tier tickets for sale on tickets.ie yet so I don't think so. If enough tickets are bought between now and Sunday they might open the upper Cusack.
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Post by carthalawn on Aug 8, 2019 22:44:35 GMT
Kerry’s X factor is Peter Keane - has shown adaptability with regard to selection and set-up, which lends itself to unpredictability in a positive sense. Good chance he will adapt again and test Tyrone in a different way with his selection. All his key calls to date have largely worked. I think he’ll press some new buttons this weekend.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Aug 8, 2019 22:55:45 GMT
My favourite thing about the PK era is the kickpassing.
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Post by Hicser on Aug 8, 2019 23:13:48 GMT
So far so good on the side line, if we win on Sunday then we are exceeding expectations and a great chance to win the AI.
Already it’s a far cry from last years disappointing performances.
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Post by ballhopper34 on Aug 8, 2019 23:32:50 GMT
So far so good on the side line, if we win on Sunday then we are exceeding expectations and a great chance to win the AI. Already it’s a far cry from last years disappointing performances. Absolutely...but we must put in a performance on Sunday to call it progress, and of course a performance does not necessarily mean winning the game, but still ahead of the 2018 version.
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Post by dc84 on Aug 9, 2019 7:17:48 GMT
This is what I would go with on Sunday. 1.Ryan 2.Tom sull 3.Morley 4.foley 5.Murphy 6.Crowley 7.enright 8.Moran 9.Barry 10.spillane 11.o Shea 12.o brien 13.k.spillane 14.clifford 15.geaney
With enright as sweeper and tom sull to 7, 3 man midfield with forwards rotating a bit to mix things up. If Barry isn't fit/in form enough I'd go with sherwood
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 9, 2019 8:01:40 GMT
Gaelic Football We are no longer fading out at the end of games, insists revitalised Enright
Donnchadh Boyle 6 August 2019 2:30 AM
1 Kerry's Shane Enright. Photo: David Fitzgerald/Sportsfile On Saturday night, Kerry wasted no time in packing up and starting the long journey back home from Navan.
With an All-Ireland semi-final already coming into view, every hour of the next eight days was going to be precious as they go in search of a place in the All-Ireland final next month.
Tyrone await Peter Keane's side on Sunday in Croke Park and at a glance the Ulster men are at a disadvantage with just seven days to prepare.
But when you consider that they kept almost all of their front-line players wrapped up in cotton wool for their dead rubber against Dublin on Sunday, Mickey Harte's side's run-in is the preferable option.
Either way, Shane Enright insists the schedule won't be an issue for him and his Kerry team-mates who have already gone one better than last year by securing their place in the last four.
"It's a quick turnaround but fellas want to play games," said the Tarbert man.
"We have eight days now, other teams will have six so we have that extra couple of days. So we'll train this week and we're happy enough.
"Last year was disappointing after winning the game (against Kildare in the Super 8s) to be out. This year it has gone a lot better, we'd a great first game, drew with Donegal and needed to win against Meath to qualify for the semi, so we're happy with that."
Kerry look to be coming in to form at the right time. They haven't lost since their league final defeat to Mayo, a result they avenged in some style in the opening round of the Super 8s.
On Saturday night in Páirc Tailteann, there was further evidence that they have the depth to cope with the calendar.
David Clifford didn't feature but Kerry still managed 2-13 from play and, while Meath caused problems at times, Kerry conceded 1-13 and just 0-4 in the second half to finish with comfortably the best score difference in their group.
Enright has forced his way back into Peter Keane's thinking. His 2018 season was a bust as he didn't feature in championship due to an ankle ligament injury and 2019 didn't start well for him either as he was used sparingly in the league too as the new manager tinkered with his squad.
However, as the summer came into view, Enright furthered his claim and he has now featured in all three Super 8s games so far.
"When you have all those young fellas there, you feel that pressure!" he smiled. "No, I didn't play too much in the league - I only played a couple of games.
"Then I played the first game against Clare, I didn't play the Munster final and then I played in the last three Super 8s games so I'm happy to be playing and any time you are playing with Kerry it's great.
"Obviously I was disappointed not to start today but Peter wants to give other fellas runs as well and Brian (Ó Beaglaoich) came in and did brilliantly so it's horses for courses.
"And it will be the same next week whoever we are playing; he will pick a team to suit who we are playing so that's the way it is.
"Everyone is buying in to it, we have 36 in training and the 26 change every week as well so fellas know that they mightn't be in it one week but playing the next week."
And he revealed that he is enjoying his new role further out the field in the half-back line, having been deployed as a man-marker in the past.
Ligaments "I was unlucky last year, I tore ligaments in the ankle and didn't play championship at all last year, so I'm happy with the way things are going at the moment. Playing out in the half-back line which I probably haven't done much of before, you are playing a lot more ball and you are probably not under the same sort of pressure as you are in the full-back line.
"It's great to be playing a bit of ball and the confidence comes from that so yeah, I'm happy."
Kerry were three points up on the hour mark in Navan and powered home to win by eight. They managed something similar in the Munster final when they played with 14 men for the final 15 minutes but still managed to grind out a win against Cork.
And Enright believes they have improved their ability to see out games down the home straight.
"In other years we might have faded off towards the end of games but this year we've done a lot of hard work and that's where the physical training comes in so you can last 75 or 80 minutes because that's the way it is.
"And if you are going to live with the likes of Tyrone or the Dubs you have to play for 80 minutes."
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Post by Sons of Pitches on Aug 9, 2019 8:12:29 GMT
The key to winning this will be our discipline and kickouts.
We've racked up a number of black cards over the last two games and that can't continue.
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Post by onlykerry on Aug 9, 2019 8:27:40 GMT
WE have tended to put in a decent first half and finish games reasonably well, however the first 15/20 minutes of the second half we seem to be on siesta. This has the effect of letting teams back into games - if we are up at half time we must kick on and finish off the game.
Knock out football with no safety net, big test ahead and discipline will be key. Controlled intensity even when provoked will be the winning or losing of the game.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Aug 9, 2019 8:42:24 GMT
So far so good on the side line, if we win on Sunday then we are exceeding expectations and a great chance to win the AI. Already it’s a far cry from last years disappointing performances. Absolutely...but we must put in a performance on Sunday to call it progress, and of course a performance does not necessarily mean winning the game, but still ahead of the 2018 version. We have already made progress but of course we want more. This is the good side of our animalness. I want to reiterate again what a good footpasser Shane Enright is.
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Post by kerrygold on Aug 9, 2019 8:47:56 GMT
Best of luck to all on Sunday, a great place for the young players to learn the ropes further. The summer has been a great success for the players and indeed was an excellent NFL. Expecting to see Kerry cement their years work on Sunday.
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Post by buck02 on Aug 9, 2019 9:19:57 GMT
The most interesting match ups will be who Peter Keane decides to pit against Harte, Donnelly and McShane.
The most obvious match up is Morley on McShane. Donnelly will come and go to the full forward line so it could be between Enright and Crowley who picks him up. Paul Murphy is probably a better spare man to have than Gavin White so I would nearly have White on Harte. Begley has probably come back into the reckoning after last weekend too. But I think the backs will be Foley, Morley, Sullivan, Murphy, Crowley, Enright.
I think Spillane has done enough to warrant selection at midfield next to Moran.
Up front I dont think this game will suit Killian Spillane - who has been fantastic in the last two games it must be said.
I think we will have 4 "proper" forwards starting - Seanie, Clifford, Geaney and O Brien supported by two mobile lads who will cover the ground from our own 21 to their 45. I'd nearly go Gavin White and Diarmuid O Connor.
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Post by onlykerry on Aug 9, 2019 9:43:05 GMT
The most interesting match ups will be who Peter Keane decides to pit against Harte, Donnelly and McShane. The most obvious match up is Morley on McShane. Donnelly will come and go to the full forward line so it could be between Enright and Crowley who picks him up. Paul Murphy is probably a better spare man to have than Gavin White so I would nearly have White on Harte. Begley has probably come back into the reckoning after last weekend too. But I think the backs will be Foley, Morley, Sullivan, Murphy, Crowley, Enright. I think Spillane has done enough to warrant selection at midfield next to Moran. Up front I dont think this game will suit Killian Spillane - who has been fantastic in the last two games it must be said. I think we will have 4 "proper" forwards starting - Seanie, Clifford, Geaney and O Brien supported by two mobile lads who will cover the ground from our own 21 to their 45. I'd nearly go Gavin White and Diarmuid O Connor. Gavin has great pace but his tackle needs work and I would worry about him from a defensive perspective - two black cards tell their own story - he needs to get a hand in and not hands around a player, something he can work on but I would not be putting him on Peter Harte.
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Post by dc84 on Aug 9, 2019 10:23:32 GMT
One of Peters best feats this year has been the rejuvenation of players like enright , o brien is a different man this year as is moran and geaney. The addition of k.spillane could be crucial as well he is some man to win ball I'd say everyball sent into him in last 2 games he has won.
Breakeven at mf and we have too many qualitu forwards to mind. Put all your attention on Clifford and geaney could cut loose o Shea is chipping in well from play as is spillane and o brien. Spillane being there means we have JOD to come on for last ten where he can make a difference. We need more from burns/Moynihan when they come on. Beaglaoich,white,Sherwood, burns moynihan,Walsh,jod decent bench in fairness
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Post by buck02 on Aug 9, 2019 10:49:47 GMT
If this is a draw at the end of full time, is it a replay or extra time?
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Aug 9, 2019 10:55:00 GMT
If this is a draw at the end of full time, is it a replay or extra time? My understanding is that there is ET.
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Post by taibhse on Aug 9, 2019 10:57:04 GMT
One of Peters best feats this year has been the rejuvenation of players like enright , o brien is a different man this year as is moran and geaney. The addition of k.spillane could be crucial as well he is some man to win ball I'd say everyball sent into him in last 2 games he has won. Breakeven at mf and we have too many qualitu forwards to mind. Put all your attention on Clifford and geaney could cut loose o Shea is chipping in well from play as is spillane and o brien. Spillane being there means we have JOD to come on for last ten where he can make a difference. We need more from burns/Moynihan when they come on. Beaglaoich,white,Sherwood, burns moynihan,Walsh,jod decent bench in fairness The subs bench is every bit as interesting for me as the starting fifteen. I’m told that Gavin O’Brien and Rob Wharton have come on a ton and are pushing very hard for inclusion. Killian Young also back to his best. Great additions to the bench in any case. I expect that we will be a lot more focused on Sunday - we need to be. Hard to understand how lads can turn their backs on the kick out. That's basic at any level. Re-starts are so important and we have shown in the past that we can be good at this.
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Post by buck02 on Aug 9, 2019 12:28:13 GMT
The most interesting match ups will be who Peter Keane decides to pit against Harte, Donnelly and McShane. The most obvious match up is Morley on McShane. Donnelly will come and go to the full forward line so it could be between Enright and Crowley who picks him up. Paul Murphy is probably a better spare man to have than Gavin White so I would nearly have White on Harte. Begley has probably come back into the reckoning after last weekend too. But I think the backs will be Foley, Morley, Sullivan, Murphy, Crowley, Enright. I think Spillane has done enough to warrant selection at midfield next to Moran. Up front I dont think this game will suit Killian Spillane - who has been fantastic in the last two games it must be said. I think we will have 4 "proper" forwards starting - Seanie, Clifford, Geaney and O Brien supported by two mobile lads who will cover the ground from our own 21 to their 45. I'd nearly go Gavin White and Diarmuid O Connor. Gavin has great pace but his tackle needs work and I would worry about him from a defensive perspective - two black cards tell their own story - he needs to get a hand in and not hands around a player, something he can work on but I would not be putting him on Peter Harte. Who would you suggest on Harte? Paul Murphy or maybe even push Tom Sullivan onto him?
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Post by greengreengrass on Aug 9, 2019 12:50:45 GMT
Will be interested to see if young Shaw holds his place on the panel for Sunday, was disappointed not to see him make an appearance against meath last weekend
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Post by colinsworth1 on Aug 9, 2019 13:25:03 GMT
Gavin has great pace but his tackle needs work and I would worry about him from a defensive perspective - two black cards tell their own story - he needs to get a hand in and not hands around a player, something he can work on but I would not be putting him on Peter Harte. Who would you suggest on Harte? Paul Murphy or maybe even push Tom Sullivan onto him? Possibly put TOS on the corner forward that plays outfield that way TOS gets to mark his man but can often find himself in a very advanced position in other words push up on his man . He could end up scoring more than the corner forward that he’s marking but really Tom would end up being a third midfielder which could be good for us . We can shoot from outside we can be patient and pass our way through the maze of defenders this is all good but the runner coming in a full speed receiving the offload is as good a way as any to win a free or to break through for score .this will also draw cards Kerry normally try and tip toe around blanket defense But the occasional battering ram at pace would be a ploy that they may not cope with too easy We now have a few players finally that can do this
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Post by fitz on Aug 9, 2019 13:35:41 GMT
My favourite thing about the PK era is the kickpassing. Moran is king of the foot sprayers
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Aug 9, 2019 13:39:55 GMT
Who would you suggest on Harte? Paul Murphy or maybe even push Tom Sullivan onto him? Possibly put TOS on the corner forward that plays outfield that way TOS gets to mark his man but can often find himself in a very advanced position in other words push up on his man . He could end up scoring more than the corner forward that he’s marking but really Tom would end up being a third midfielder which could be good for us . We can shoot from outside we can be patient and pass our way through the maze of defenders this is all good but the runner coming in a full speed receiving the offload is as good a way as any to win a free or to break through for score .this will also draw cards Kerry normally try and tip toe around blanket defense But the occasional battering ram at pace would be a ploy that they may not cope with too easy We now have a few players finally that can do this He played this role sometimes in an AIF for either PCD or the Minors.
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Post by dc84 on Aug 9, 2019 14:24:02 GMT
One of Peters best feats this year has been the rejuvenation of players like enright , o brien is a different man this year as is moran and geaney. The addition of k.spillane could be crucial as well he is some man to win ball I'd say everyball sent into him in last 2 games he has won. Breakeven at mf and we have too many qualitu forwards to mind. Put all your attention on Clifford and geaney could cut loose o Shea is chipping in well from play as is spillane and o brien. Spillane being there means we have JOD to come on for last ten where he can make a difference. We need more from burns/Moynihan when they come on. Beaglaoich,white,Sherwood, burns moynihan,Walsh,jod decent bench in fairness The subs bench is every bit as interesting for me as the starting fifteen. I’m told that Gavin O’Brien and Rob Wharton have come on a ton and are pushing very hard for inclusion. Killian Young also back to his best. Great additions to the bench in any case. I expect that we will be a lot more focused on Sunday - we need to be. Hard to understand how lads can turn their backs on the kick out. That's basic at any level. Re-starts are so important and we have shown in the past that we can be good at this. I thought our 're starts versus Donegal were excellent considering we didn't have much options out the field. Ok we gave away two around the penalty that were awful and could've lost us the game. After a goal like that I think you should always go long for safety. I think against Meath we were lazy in our movement out the field that won't be the case this week
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Post by glengael on Aug 9, 2019 14:29:53 GMT
If this is a draw at the end of full time, is it a replay or extra time? My understanding is that there is ET. To paraphrase the Lotto ad, it's the 'Can't wait til it's all finished' Championship. Wouldn't be surprised if they decided to have ET in the Final so as not to waste an extra day to decide the winners.....
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