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Post by keepitup on Jul 4, 2019 8:32:18 GMT
What teams are losing home venue for the last few rounds of county league. Co board's new punishment for not supplying active referees to ref during the year. Clubs were notified in January of it I think
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Post by homerj on Jul 4, 2019 9:30:01 GMT
wow, didnt know that.....thats nonsense to be putting that pressure on clubs.
until the GAA in general show more respect towards Refs, the shortage of them will get worse and worse.
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Post by onlykerry on Jul 4, 2019 10:04:09 GMT
wow, didnt know that.....thats nonsense to be putting that pressure on clubs. until the GAA in general show more respect towards Refs, the shortage of them will get worse and worse. Catch 22 for the GAA - more respect comes from better referees and a proper system of assessment of performance. We can all talk about being more respectful but its difficult to remain calm in the face of poor refereeing in close games. One can sanction management and players but the crowd is more difficult to manage. Too many GAA refs are unable to keep up with the game and yet without them the schedule of matches cannot go ahead - need to have a bigger pool of refs and have a constant flow of new blood. GAA should have a youth policy for referees - I have seen how the FA encourage young referees in England and it seems to give an alternative pathway for those keen on the sport but who just dont have the ability to suceed as a player (sounds harsh but its reality). There needs to be a dual approach - develop refs and be less tolerant of abuse. Development should encompass performance review and feedback from teams and less tolerance should include more consistent use of black card for back chat (players and management).
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Post by Corner Back on Jul 4, 2019 12:51:09 GMT
Teams losing home advantage is one thing. Awarding home advantage to the opposite team is different. Surely they should be played at neutral venues.
Unfair advantage for some teams with extra home game.
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Post by keepitup on Jul 4, 2019 14:17:11 GMT
No senior referees by the following: Ardfert, Beale, Castlegregory, St Mary's, St Pat's,Tuosist,Waterville,Valentia,Laune Rgs,Moyvane, Tarbert, and Templenoe. Lots of these clubs have underage referees. Laune Rgs seems strange to me Sean Joy and Peter Lyons are top refs
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Post by southward on Jul 4, 2019 16:41:33 GMT
Dubious rationale for this one. A club can't manufacture referees - fellas either want to do it or they don't. I highly doubt that any otherwise unwilling individual is going to martyr themselves over a possible home advantage for the club.
Question - does a referee have to be a member of any particular club? And if so, why?
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Post by onlykerry on Jul 4, 2019 16:58:18 GMT
Dubious rationale for this one. A club can't manufacture referees - fellas either want to do it or they don't. I highly doubt that any otherwise unwilling individual is going to martyr themselves over a possible home advantage for the club. Question - does a referee have to be a member of any particular club? And if so, why? Membership of the GAA is through membership of a Club - don't think you can be an unaffiliated member.
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Post by southward on Jul 4, 2019 17:20:01 GMT
Dubious rationale for this one. A club can't manufacture referees - fellas either want to do it or they don't. I highly doubt that any otherwise unwilling individual is going to martyr themselves over a possible home advantage for the club. Question - does a referee have to be a member of any particular club? And if so, why? Membership of the GAA is through membership of a Club - don't think you can be an unaffiliated member. Yeah, that's what I figured but wouldn't it make sense if you could as a referee? Maybe even have a referees' club or society within the GAA. It's unlikely that referees in other major sports are affiliated to particular teams. There might be lots of people out there who don't play, or are retired, who might fancy a bit of reffing. Perhaps blow-ins to an area who have no particular allegiance. I can't see why they should have to join a club to take up the whistle. It would certainly help alleviate any concerns of bias if they didn't.
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Post by Corner Back on Jul 4, 2019 18:06:01 GMT
Teams losing home advantage is one thing. Awarding home advantage to the opposite team is different. Surely they should be played at neutral venues. Unfair advantage for some teams with extra home game. If a club has is playing the right teams in their last two away games they could have 8 home games from 11
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Post by ballybunion on Jul 4, 2019 20:41:12 GMT
Maybe,this is only a threat by the county board or is it, or maybe these clubs can still rectify the situation. Maybe its too late to rectify with only a few games left in the county league. I expect there might be some appeals made.We will see.
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Post by keepitup on Jul 9, 2019 13:34:26 GMT
On this weekend fixtures on main site Templenoe, St Pat's, Laune Rgs and Waterville have lost home venue
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Post by inforthebreaks on Jul 10, 2019 15:34:48 GMT
On this weekend fixtures on main site Templenoe, St Pat's, Laune Rgs and Waterville have lost home venue they have reversed that for the next two rounds of county league. rounds 10 and 11 are still to be reviewed.
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Post by onlykerry on Jul 10, 2019 15:50:13 GMT
As an earlier poster mentioned it is one thing to penalise teams for their clubs not providing a referee, it is an entirely different thing to give an advantage to their opponents over the other teams in the division. Lost home venue should not mean an extra home game for the opponents.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2019 16:00:39 GMT
No senior referees by the following: Ardfert, Beale, Castlegregory, St Mary's, St Pat's,Tuosist,Waterville,Valentia,Laune Rgs,Moyvane, Tarbert, and Templenoe. Lots of these clubs have underage referees. Laune Rgs seems strange to me Sean Joy and Peter Lyons are top refs Peter Lyons is Cromane ref.
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Post by ballybunion on Jul 10, 2019 17:28:05 GMT
I wouldn't bet on it that this new ruling will be implemented by the county board.A threat only,time will tell.
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