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Post by kerrygold on Jun 10, 2019 22:35:43 GMT
Meath won't keep the ball kicked out to Dublin. Kerry just aren't in the same parish of predictability as Dublin.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Jun 11, 2019 0:21:11 GMT
Attending a few club games here in Donegal I sense they are making solid progress, that's how I'd put it, a good pipeline from a pool of talent that few counties could match, though soccer and 'the Gaelic' as they call it would be neck and neck.
You have the likes of Jamie Brennan coming out from under the shadow of Paddy McBrearty and he is a different proposition to the boy Jason Foley gave the run around to up here in the league in 2017. Then there are a few emerging recruits like Oisin Gallen and Niall O'Donnell - nothing crazy, just gradual progress in all departments and once they start to fire they will be prominent in Ulster, maybe even dominant given the inconsistencies emerging in Tyrone and Monaghan, who we thought were Super 8 definites. What I like about Donegal is that they have a full panel of intercounty level players and there will be many a good day of classy football in this outfit, now that they have managed to overcome teams guarding the D - Fermanagh and Tyrone were worse than the US secret service guarding another D and in a way you'd wonder but did Fermanagh give Donegal a rehearsal for Tyrone?
Listening to Brolly v O'Rourke discussing Michael Murphy on TSG had me for once believe in the conspiracy theory that these guys go at each others' throats just to stir it up. Colm's form would be to recognise on and off the ball contribution while wee Joe tends to blow with the wind from conversation to conversation.
Low and behold but here was O'Rourke condemning Murphy as your average inter-county laddo while Joe had him as an all time great. Colm alluded to AO'M keeping him quiet in the '14 AI final, 5 years back! Ah maybe the conspiracy theorists are right and the consensus here is that Murphy is Donegal's best ever, and having witnessed him drive Glenswilly forward for no less than 7 genuine shots at goal in a club Game on Good Friday did nothing to convince me otherwise - while just 2 found the target, on another day the other 5 could have also registered if his mastery had that biteen of luck. Although he now has high mileage you can see him wear out a few jerseys as an instrumental FF when he reaches that inevitability.
Still this year is promising and I'm looking forward to a bumper year of close encounters, including the Ulster final.
PS I posted this article and then Peter Canavan copies in the Indo the following day - what's that John B said about telling a fella a story and then he charges you for reading it, and charged the whole country too!
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Post by Ard Mhacha on Jun 11, 2019 22:04:54 GMT
There wouldn't be much between Meath & Kildare in a Leinster final so expecting Dublin to win this final in the plus 15-20 points region bringing their Leinster winning points to plus 60 for three games. Dublin have only lost twice in Leinster since 2002. They must have lost three times, as Laois 2003, Paidi’s Westmeath in 2004 and Meath “won” in 2010.
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Post by Ard Mhacha on Jun 11, 2019 22:09:56 GMT
Mayo should have been totally focused on nothing else but beating Roscommon . ( yet you felt they weren't) Roscommon had this game ear marked from early in the year and it showed. Joe Brolly said AoS was good on Saturday i disagree . He was good when he had the ball , but strolled around when he hadn't got the ball as did a few others, expecting things to happen. Had Mayo outworked Roscommon they had the players to win it, but yet again they made life hard for themselves and deservedly lost. I was at Dublin Game, We were playing a div 3 team and winning very comfortably , yet the running off the ball and tackling by Ciaran Kilkenny, Con o Callaghan , Paul Mannion, Fenton and Howard was nonstop and relentless. Ciaran Kilkenny was roaring at guys near the end of the game to not leave space as Louth Goalkeeper tried to kick the ball out . I get your point regarding methodical, but this wasn't methodical , This was Guys who just kept working and left everything on the pitch. Mayo are box office. Compulsive viewing Dublin would bore the living daylights out of you. Too machine like. I have to agree. Very economical, and effective way of playing. But their games bore me to tears.
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Post by kerrygold on Jun 16, 2019 15:39:07 GMT
Good final in the West. Galway starting to stretch their legs now!
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Post by southward on Jun 16, 2019 16:30:17 GMT
Good final in the West. Galway starting to stretch their legs now! Galway are a horrible side.
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Post by kerrygold on Jun 16, 2019 16:44:59 GMT
Some Galway fade, out Coxed!
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Post by Mickmack on Jun 16, 2019 16:51:35 GMT
Great to see the passionate Rossies winning that.
Conor Cox can operate against Mayo and Galway. He proved that.
He got a point in the first half that defied geometry.
Great for him that there is a rule to allow him play for the fatherland!
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Post by greengold35 on Jun 16, 2019 16:57:49 GMT
Kevin Walsh has destroyed Galway - hard to imagine this county has the All Ireland club champions in Corofin, a team with flair, attacking intent & a joie de vivre when they play.
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Post by kerrygold on Jun 16, 2019 17:09:51 GMT
Great to see the passionate Rossies winning that. Conor Cox can operate against Mayo and Galway. He proved that. He got a point in the first half that defied geometry. Great for him that there is a rule to allow him play for the fatherland![/quote Four great points off the cuff, leads real credence to his policy of shooting on sight. Probably something that kept him out of the Kerry team. All pretenders to Dublin's stroll to Five dropping like flies hitting the blue light in recent weeks. Mayo, Tyrone & Galway. Keith Barry and delusion and all that. Ya!
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Post by Kingdomson on Jun 16, 2019 17:10:38 GMT
Kevin Walsh has destroyed Galway - hard to imagine this county has the All Ireland club champions in Corofin, a team with flair, attacking intent & a joie de vivre when they play. Destroyed them is right! Galway had 130 something hand passes before half-time alone. A gale of wind to their backs in the second half and they kicked one from play - was it? Shocking stuff from Galway. Roscommon were the footballing team today and they showed some lovely kicking and fetching. Cox won't be far off an All Star at this stage and we'll see how it goes now in the Super 8s for him. Fair play to the Rossies.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Jun 16, 2019 18:42:34 GMT
Didn't Tomas O'6 flag the vulnerability of Galway's plan though not sure if he went as far as predicting the outcome?
Has Cox football relatives in Kerry?
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Post by Mickmack on Jun 16, 2019 19:08:18 GMT
Didn't Tomas O'6 flag the vulnerability of Galway's plan though not sure if he went as far as predicting the outcome? Has Cox football relatives in Kerry?He is from Listowel His father is from Roscommon so he is allowed play for Roscommon
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Post by veteran on Jun 16, 2019 19:34:58 GMT
It was heartwarming to see the celebrations of Roscommon after winning a provincial title. Clearly the majority of counties do not take winning a provincial title for granted. Of course, they have the added bonus of playing their next championship match at home. How many counties, apart from Dublin, would fancy their chances of winning in Dr. Hyde Park.
Delighted for Listowel man Conor Cox. Still, I would not exchange any of our starting forwards in Ennis for him.
On paper Galway have class forwards but Kevin Walsh is severely limiting them with his negativity. It would be fascinating to see what Anthony Cunningham would do with that Galway team.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jun 16, 2019 19:50:24 GMT
Didn't Tomas O'6 flag the vulnerability of Galway's plan though not sure if he went as far as predicting the outcome? Has Cox football relatives in Kerry?He is from Listowel His father is from Roscommon so he is allowed play for Roscommon And his club is still Listowel.
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Post by john4 on Jun 16, 2019 19:55:56 GMT
Well done to Roscommon and Conor Cox, they fully deserved that win today. They showed Galway no respect whatsoever from the off in much the same way as they did with Mayo before. Conor Cox did really well again today, that free at the end when the game was practically over with the outside of the right boot on the left side of the field was a gem. Galway are gone backwards big time, no attacking shape at all. The clock was showing around 70' and Shane Walsh was on his own 21, who did they think was going to get the scores for them.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Jun 16, 2019 20:00:03 GMT
He is from Listowel His father is from Roscommon so he is allowed play for Roscommon And his club is still Listowel. I know that, but that was not the question, maybe someone in NK will oblige? On a separate angle, one can't help but thinking Cox is extra charged-up to prove a point and that he has done, and still going strong. If all of our team are better than him then we must be pretty awesome so it is 'all good' as they say!
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Post by kerryexile on Jun 16, 2019 22:55:02 GMT
Didn't Tomas O'6 flag the vulnerability of Galway's plan though not sure if he went as far as predicting the outcome? Has Cox football relatives in Kerry? You are right Bally Tomas predicted a Roscommon win Friday morning on RTE radaio. Walsh will not survive this one - 5 points up at half time - score 1 point in 35 minutes of second half and be well beaten. Nothing dramatic will happen but come winter he will move on.
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Post by greenmen55 on Jun 16, 2019 23:43:49 GMT
No 2 ways about it Conor Cox was simply unbelievable today and has been fantastic throughout their Connaught campaign so far... he stood up today and became a huge leader as well as a big player for this Roscommon side he demanded ball after ball and late on settled the ship and kicked 2 or 3 cruicial points that was simply the difference between the sides. He looks to be a very fired up man at the moment and seems to believe he has a point to prove and so far he is most definitely proving his point.. maybe more so to himself that he is good enough to do it against the top sides. At the start of this year mayo and Galway were both contenders to challenge for the AI and he has led an industrious Roscommon side to 2 brilliant wins and a Connaught title.
Anyone that thinks he wouldn’t get near the Kerry panel at the moment is fooling themselves I personally think he would be a brilliant option off the bench. A fired up Conor Cox as we can see from his performances lately is a very dangerous weapon to have and would only improve our panel and our options
All in all it’s great to see him doing so well and getting the recognition he deserves because at the moment he looks like a man who can’t be stopped. I know its only the provincial championships and we still have a lot more big days ahead come the super 8s but you can only play who’s put in front of you and massive credit is due to him for his performances of late.
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Post by glengael on Jun 17, 2019 9:51:43 GMT
In the previous incarnation of championship this win would really propel Roscommon forward. Now there are effectively 3 quarter final games instead of one, so will their panel be stretched by the demands of those I wonder? I think Kevin Walsh is in the final furlong of his tenure in Galway. They looked dreadful yesterday.
How many other managers have won provincial titles in both senior football and senior hurling?
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Post by Mickmack on Jun 17, 2019 10:01:41 GMT
Having to play Dublin in Croker in the neutral game is a dubious reward for the rossies
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Post by dc84 on Jun 17, 2019 10:25:10 GMT
Good second half by roscommon yesterday Cox was good again. They were nearly as bad in the first as Galway were in the 2nd a lot of teams look worse than they were last year with the exception of Donegal,dublin and roscommon as for ourselves hard to know really until we make super 8s. Does this mean if we beat cork we will be playing Galway or team that beats them in r4? Rds 3 and 4 could be tasty some big guns there if they avoid each other you could have kildare,mayo,Tyrone and monaghan facing off against beaten provincal finalists. A loss for us against cork would be a disaster if we end up getting Tyrone or mayo!
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Post by kerrygold on Jun 17, 2019 10:44:01 GMT
Having to play Dublin in Croker in the neutral game is a dubious reward for the rossies Completely unfair on Roscommon. It should be in Limerick/Thurles or nowhere.........Dublin are top heavy on home games in Croker.
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Post by dc84 on Jun 17, 2019 10:46:18 GMT
Having to play Dublin in Croker in the neutral game is a dubious reward for the rossies Completely unfair on Roscommon. It should be in Limerick/Thurles or nowhere.........Dublin are top heavy on home games in Croker. Not going to happen though is it!
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Post by southward on Jun 17, 2019 11:25:18 GMT
Qualifiers looking tasty now with Mayo, Galway, Tyrone, Monaghan, Armagh, Kerry or Cork, Cavan or Donegal, Meath (probably) and Kildare all in the mix. Difficult not to step on a mine there.
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Post by dc84 on Jun 17, 2019 11:30:55 GMT
Qualifiers looking tasty now with Mayo, Galway, Tyrone, Monaghan, Armagh, Kerry or Cork, Cavan or Donegal, Meath (probably) and Kildare all in the mix. Difficult not to step on a mine there. Yes some very good potential match ups there could see a few unfancied teams making quarters
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Post by onlykerry on Jun 17, 2019 11:33:52 GMT
Question for those in the know. Are the two groups in the Super 8's fixed in the sense that they will not be jerrymandered to avoid pairings from earlier rounds. Does the "avoid earlier pairings" stop once the qualifier section is completed? And how are the home and away fixtures in the Super 8 phase decided - is it by rotation or set by some mysterious GAA committee?
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Post by dc84 on Jun 17, 2019 11:43:56 GMT
Question for those in the know. Are the two groups in the Super 8's fixed in the sense that they will not be jerrymandered to avoid pairings from earlier rounds. Does the "avoid earlier pairings" stop once the qualifier section is completed? And how are the home and away fixtures in the Super 8 phase decided - is it by rotation or set by some mysterious GAA committee? en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_All-Ireland_Senior_Football_ChampionshipGo to all Ireland for details, repeat pairings are allowed. This gives details of the other group ie dublin/roscommon. It's dublin vs loser of kerry/cork or team that beats them in r1... If we beat cork I think it's V Galway or team that beats them in killarney V donegal/Cavan In croke park V Meath or team that beats them in navan or whereever If we lose and then win r4 qualifier it's V dublin in croke park V cavan/Donegal or team that beats them In croke park V roscommon in killarney
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Post by Ard Mhacha on Jun 17, 2019 12:17:53 GMT
Having to play Dublin in Croker in the neutral game is a dubious reward for the rossies Aye, but Dublin haven’t won Leinster yet!
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Post by dc84 on Jun 17, 2019 12:28:48 GMT
Having to play Dublin in Croker in the neutral game is a dubious reward for the rossies Aye, but Dublin haven’t won Leinster yet! Lols
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