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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2019 22:59:28 GMT
Mayo should have been totally focused on nothing else but beating Roscommon . ( yet you felt they weren't) Roscommon had this game ear marked from early in the year and it showed. Joe Brolly said AoS was good on Saturday i disagree . He was good when he had the ball , but strolled around when he hadn't got the ball as did a few others, expecting things to happen. Had Mayo outworked Roscommon they had the players to win it, but yet again they made life hard for themselves and deservedly lost. I was at Dublin Game, We were playing a div 3 team and winning very comfortably , yet the running off the ball and tackling by Ciaran Kilkenny, Con o Callaghan , Paul Mannion, Fenton and Howard was nonstop and relentless. Ciaran Kilkenny was roaring at guys near the end of the game to not leave space as Louth Goalkeeper tried to kick the ball out . I get your point regarding methodical, but this wasn't methodical , This was Guys who just kept working and left everything on the pitch. Brolly loves AOS. He has slaughtered AOS in the past, particularly after the 2017 final
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Post by Mickmack on May 28, 2019 23:03:20 GMT
Would Dublin have lost to Roscommon in the championship last weekend? No. How much would they have won by? 10-12 points plus. Dublin are methodically consistent in everything they do, in comparison Mayo are inconsistent. On recent League form Mayo should not have lost to Roscommon at the weekend. Mayo should have been totally focused on nothing else but beating Roscommon . ( yet you felt they weren't) Roscommon had this game ear marked from early in the year and it showed. Joe Brolly said AoS was good on Saturday i disagree . He was good when he had the ball , but strolled around when he hadn't got the ball as did a few others, expecting things to happen. Had Mayo outworked Roscommon they had the players to win it, but yet again they made life hard for themselves and deservedly lost. I was at Dublin Game, We were playing a div 3 team and winning very comfortably , yet the running off the ball and tackling by Ciaran Kilkenny, Con o Callaghan , Paul Mannion, Fenton and Howard was nonstop and relentless. Ciaran Kilkenny was roaring at guys near the end of the game to not leave space as Louth Goalkeeper tried to kick the ball out . I get your point regarding methodical, but this wasn't methodical , This was Guys who just kept working and left everything on the pitch. Mayo are box office. Compulsive viewing Dublin would bore the living daylights out of you. Too machine like.
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Post by thebluepanther on May 29, 2019 14:44:53 GMT
Was Tralee this year boring .
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Post by kerrygold on May 29, 2019 16:03:49 GMT
Dublin are phenomenal, love watching their game management matted to extreme physical and mental fitness. There is nothing boring about watching the Dubs playing football at the moment. Only regret is that there isn't a few counties able to go toe to toe with them. take them on and win, Kerry being one of those.
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Post by kerrygold on May 29, 2019 16:07:43 GMT
Would Dublin have lost to Roscommon in the championship last weekend? No. How much would they have won by? 10-12 points plus. Dublin are methodically consistent in everything they do, in comparison Mayo are inconsistent. On recent League form Mayo should not have lost to Roscommon at the weekend. Mayo should have been totally focused on nothing else but beating Roscommon . ( yet you felt they weren't) Roscommon had this game ear marked from early in the year and it showed. Joe Brolly said AoS was good on Saturday i disagree . He was good when he had the ball , but strolled around when he hadn't got the ball as did a few others, expecting things to happen. Had Mayo outworked Roscommon they had the players to win it, but yet again they made life hard for themselves and deservedly lost. I was at Dublin Game, We were playing a div 3 team and winning very comfortably , yet the running off the ball and tackling by Ciaran Kilkenny, Con o Callaghan , Paul Mannion, Fenton and Howard was nonstop and relentless. Ciaran Kilkenny was roaring at guys near the end of the game to not leave space as Louth Goalkeeper tried to kick the ball out . I get your point regarding methodical, but this wasn't methodical , This was Guys who just kept working and left everything on the pitch. Methodical may not have been the right word. Not meant to be derogatory in any way.
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Post by jackeengirl on May 29, 2019 16:17:55 GMT
Mayo should have been totally focused on nothing else but beating Roscommon . ( yet you felt they weren't) Roscommon had this game ear marked from early in the year and it showed. Joe Brolly said AoS was good on Saturday i disagree . He was good when he had the ball , but strolled around when he hadn't got the ball as did a few others, expecting things to happen. Had Mayo outworked Roscommon they had the players to win it, but yet again they made life hard for themselves and deservedly lost. I was at Dublin Game, We were playing a div 3 team and winning very comfortably , yet the running off the ball and tackling by Ciaran Kilkenny, Con o Callaghan , Paul Mannion, Fenton and Howard was nonstop and relentless. Ciaran Kilkenny was roaring at guys near the end of the game to not leave space as Louth Goalkeeper tried to kick the ball out . I get your point regarding methodical, but this wasn't methodical , This was Guys who just kept working and left everything on the pitch. Mayo are box office. Compulsive viewing Dublin would bore the living daylights out of you. Too machine like. Not me. It's like poetry in motion to me 😁
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Post by kerrygold on May 29, 2019 18:42:24 GMT
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Post by Mickmack on May 29, 2019 18:54:26 GMT
Was Tralee this year boring . My first car was an ancient Fiat 124 way back in 1981. I had to lift the bonnet last thing at night in the winter and put a blanket over the engine in the hope that it would start in the morning. A black plume of smoke would rise when it did start. Dublin were like that in Tralee. Which is why it was such an engaging game. I expect the Dublin machine to be purring perfectly come the summer... to silence in the stands for the most part.
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Post by kerrygold on May 29, 2019 21:37:20 GMT
Was Tralee this year boring . My first car was an ancient Fiat 124 way back in 1981. I had to lift the bonnet last thing at night in the winter and put a blanket over the engine in the hope that it would start in the morning. A black plume of smoke would rise when it did start. Dublin were like that in Tralee. Which is why it was such an engaging game. I expect the Dublin machine to be purring perfectly come the summer... to silence in the stands for the most part. Are you sure it wasn't a Lada? 😎
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Post by kerrygold on Jun 2, 2019 15:55:34 GMT
Kildare book a date with the firing squad in the Leinster semi final!
FULL-TIME
Kildare 1-18 Longford 0-10
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Post by kerrygold on Jun 2, 2019 17:33:30 GMT
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Post by Mickmack on Jun 3, 2019 9:23:01 GMT
Cavan v Armagh was probably the best game so far as both teams played to potential or near enough.
The Cavan v Monaghan and Mayo v Ross gsmes were very enjoyable but Monaghan and Mayo didnt reach their own standards.
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Post by kerrygold on Jun 3, 2019 9:59:20 GMT
Take Dublin out of the championship equation and the championship is relatively even and competitive in general. Is the second tier proposal a reaction to Dublin's dominance?
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Post by Mickmack on Jun 3, 2019 10:39:21 GMT
Take Dublin out of the championship equation and the championship is relatively even and competitive in general. Is the second tier proposal a reaction to Dublin's dominance? You could have a very interesting championship without Dublin It would be like the 2018 hurling championship where about 8 teams were equal but all were far from perfect. In fact all 8 hurling teams in 2018 had major flaws but the excitement and competitiveness captivated people. The 2019 hurling championship is shaping up to be a damp squib by comparison.
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Post by kerrygold on Jun 3, 2019 15:04:09 GMT
Take Dublin out of the championship equation and the championship is relatively even and competitive in general. Is the second tier proposal a reaction to Dublin's dominance? You could have a very interesting championship without Dublin It would be like the 2018 hurling championship where about 8 teams were equal but all were far from perfect. In fact all 8 hurling teams in 2018 had major flaws but the excitement and competitiveness captivated people. The 2019 hurling championship is shaping up to be a damp squib by comparison. Very equal without the Dubs dominance of the past few seasons with little or nothing between the chasing pack and a few below them. Dublin devouring the likes of Louth, Westmeath and Kildare next Sunday creates a perception.
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Post by kerrygold on Jun 3, 2019 15:11:29 GMT
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Post by clubman on Jun 3, 2019 20:29:10 GMT
Just out of curiosity, what does everyone use to get results or scores? I use the rte website but its not exactly user friendly
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Post by john4 on Jun 3, 2019 21:26:06 GMT
Just out of curiosity, what does everyone use to get results or scores? I use the rte website but its not exactly user friendly For intercounty results www.gaa.ie/fixtures-results/
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jun 3, 2019 21:32:03 GMT
Just out of curiosity, what does everyone use to get results or scores? I use the rte website but its not exactly user friendly I search the Twitter.
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Post by kerrygold on Jun 3, 2019 21:50:37 GMT
Just out of curiosity, what does everyone use to get results or scores? I use the rte website but its not exactly user friendly "Phone a friend"
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Post by jackiel on Jun 3, 2019 22:49:26 GMT
Just out of curiosity, what does everyone use to get results or scores? I use the rte website but its not exactly user friendly Twitter and Facebook
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Post by glengael on Jun 10, 2019 8:50:29 GMT
Monaghan v Armagh is the pick of the qualifier draw from this morning.
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Post by dc84 on Jun 10, 2019 9:23:42 GMT
Just out of curiosity, what does everyone use to get results or scores? I use the rte website but its not exactly user friendly Twitter and Facebook Used to use live Gaelic not sure if it's still there
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Post by onlykerry on Jun 10, 2019 9:44:38 GMT
And now we have the eight provincial finalists decided for 2019 Dublin V Meath with Dublin unbackable favourites Donegal V Cavan with Donegal the favourites I suspect Kerry V Cork with Kerry hoping to avoid a banana skin Galway V Roscommon where Galway will be slight favourites Coming through the backdoor we expect to see Mayo and Tyrone plus two unless the R3 draw actually pits Mayo against Tyrone.
The provincial finalists consist of 5 Division 1 teams (two of which were demonted) plus the top two teams in Division 2 (both promoted) and the anomoly that is Cork - the bottom ranked division 2 team.
Mayo, Tyrone and Monaghan are the division 1 teams that are in the "back door" phase already.
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Post by kerrygold on Jun 10, 2019 9:51:31 GMT
And now we have the eight provincial finalists decided for 2019 Dublin V Meath with Dublin unbackable favourites Donegal V Cavan with Donegal the favourites I suspect Kerry V Cork with Kerry hoping to avoid a banana skin Galway V Roscommon where Galway will be slight favourites Coming through the backdoor we expect to see Mayo and Tyrone plus two unless the R3 draw actually pits Mayo against Tyrone. The provincial finalists consist of 5 Division 1 teams (two of which were demonted) plus the top two teams in Division 2 (both promoted) and the anomoly that is Cork - the bottom ranked division 2 team. Mayo, Tyrone and Monaghan are the division 1 teams that are in the "back door" phase already. Hard to look beyond Dublin cantering through that field to the five in a row with ease pulling up.
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Post by jackiel on Jun 10, 2019 10:25:04 GMT
I was in Croke Park yesterday, the first match was very poor , Laois made Meath look good and the scoreline flattered. Joe Mc Quillan made some awful decisions , it's like he's operating off a different rule book. At one point there was a punch by Donie Kingston to one of the Meath lads, should have been straight red but he gave a yellow.
In the second match Dublin didn't really seem to come out of second gear yet managed to make mincemeat of Kildare. I honestly cant see beyond them achieving the 5 in a Row. I'll miss the Leinster final but to be honest that's a blessing because it's hard to sit through Dublin steam rolling over teams all the time. Here's hoping that Munster final is more of a spectacle.
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Post by kerrygold on Jun 10, 2019 11:16:51 GMT
There wouldn't be much between Meath & Kildare in a Leinster final so expecting Dublin to win this final in the plus 15-20 points region bringing their Leinster winning points to plus 60 for three games. Dublin have only lost twice in Leinster since 2002.
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Post by dc84 on Jun 10, 2019 13:25:50 GMT
I was in Croke Park yesterday, the first match was very poor , Laois made Meath look good and the scoreline flattered. Joe Mc Quillan made some awful decisions , it's like he's operating off a different rule book. At one point there was a punch by Donie Kingston to one of the Meath lads, should have been straight red but he gave a yellow. In the second match Dublin didn't really seem to come out of second gear yet managed to make mincemeat of Kildare. I honestly cant see beyond them achieving the 5 in a Row. I'll miss the Leinster final but to be honest that's a blessing because it's hard to sit through Dublin steam rolling over teams all the time. Here's hoping that Munster final is more of a spectacle. Hopefully it's not we need to be putting teams like cork to the sword to be honest if we are to have any hope of being close to Dublin we should be looking for a 10 pts plus victory anything less should be looked at as failure imo
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Post by Mickmack on Jun 10, 2019 20:55:55 GMT
Dublin are so far ahead that Leinster is beyond repair
Tipping Point: Fans know how it will end – no wonder they don’t bother their barney to go about 16 hours ago Malachy Clerkin
On the walk into Croke Park on Sunday, just down at the corner where the Hogan Stand meets Hill 16, two metallers stood gawping at the edifice in front of them. That’s right, metallers. One bald, one hirsute, both in cargo shorts, black T-shirts, Slayer, Megadeth, the whole bit. If you were to guess they had been to Slane on Saturday for Metallica, they could not have been offended by your presumption.
They were German, but one of them had been here before and he was explaining to his mate that this huge stadium was going to be filled today for the Dublin football team. Croke Park never looks bigger than it does at that corner, where you can peer in through the gate and see the seven floors of seats rise up around the bowl, with the sheer terrace of the Hill off to your left. In the imagination, before the stiles open on a matchday, it’s a wondrous place.
Had they chanced it and looked about popping inside for the afternoon, we all know their wonder would have taken a fair battering. But they were only passing through and had no notion of going to the games, so it would have been pointless to interrupt them with the truth. What would you say, anyway?
“Well actually chaps, the place will only be about a third full. Time was, you’d get seventy-odd thousand in here for a Leinster semi-final double-header, but Dublin have only lost one game in the competition in 15 years so nobody bothers their barney anymore. Hope they rocked the gaff for ye down in Slane because this place will be like a Monday afternoon cinema visit.”
Which it was. As the Meath and Laois teams warmed up on the pitch 15 minutes before the first game, the Cusack Stand had fewer than 1,000 people in it. That’s no vague estimate – they were easily counted. Not alone could you hear the teams going through their warm-ups, you could all but hear the grass grow underneath them. You’d feel a greater sense of occasion paying your car tax.
Perfectly harmless Meath and Laois played out a perfectly harmless semi-final. At times, when Donal Keogan or Bryan Menton or Cillian O’Sullivan would plant a flag for Meath, you allowed your mind to go crazy and imagined the place rocking with hard-chaws from Navan and Skryne and Ashbourne a fortnight from now. But then you remembered that it was the Leinster Championship we’re talking about here, and sure Ashbourne is full of Dubs now anyway.
And then Dublin came out and did what Dublin do to everyone in the province and have done for pretty much the whole decade. It was 15 points yesterday; it will be the same again or something like it in the final. The Leinster Championship is a non-competition.
As the Meath and Laois teams warmed up before the first game, the Cusack Stand had fewer than 1,000 people in it This thing is broken. It really is. You can get smothered under the avalanche of numbers when it comes to how far Dublin are ahead of everyone, and yet the beauty of sport is that everything is measurable. These are hunches or swings in the dark. Sport tells you what the story is and it tells you right between the eyes.
Yesterday was Dublin’s 20th Leinster Championship game since Jim Gavin took the reins at the start of 2013. They have, of course, won all 20. No great leap forward there – they won 22 of the 23 they played before he took over, going all the way back to the start of 2005.
But the margins have ballooned beyond all proportion to what went before. Of those 20 wins under Gavin, 18 have been by 10 points or more. The other two were by seven and nine: the Leinster finals of 2013 and 2017. For comparison, in those beano years between 2005 and 2012 when Dublin won seven titles out of eight in the province, they only put up five double-digit wins altogether. Essentially, they’ve gone from handing out double-digit beatings 22 per cent of the time to doing it 90 per cent of the time.
Regenerate Thing is, nobody can see a way for it to be any different anytime soon. Dublin’s ability to refresh and regenerate their playing squad is apparently set in train for generations at this stage. They took the field on Sunday with Dean Rock and Jonny Cooper not on the panel through injury, and with Eoin Murchan and Philly McMahon on the bench. Darren Gavin is this year’s new addition; Paddy Small came on to snipe a point. Dublin will have footballers as long as there is football.
The numbers for this semi-final double-header have been steadily dwindling across the decade Will anyone in Leinster still care, though? When they announced the attendance at half-time in the second game here, the figure of 36,126 was met with a few nodding heads and raised eyebrows. Not because it was so low, more because it was generally expected to be lower still. There had been talk beforehand of them struggling to get 30,000 through the gates.
That will happen in time, surely. The numbers for this semi-final double-header have been steadily dwindling across the decade, from 58,000 in 2011 to 51,000 in 2015 to 36,000 this year. Where does this end? Where does it go?
With supremely odd timing, the GAA put out a press release at 4.50pm on Sunday afternoon, just as the second half was getting under way in the Dublin game. It was to announce the names and aims of the taskforce set up to take a wholesale look at fixtures in the GAA and try to find a workable calendar, with everything on the table and up for grabs. And you can only bid them godspeed, not an easy task ahead of them, etc, etc.
The Leinster Championship is a bolted horse, though. Whatever they come up with, there’s no fixing what it has become.
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Post by thebluepanther on Jun 10, 2019 21:45:48 GMT
I was in Croke Park yesterday, the first match was very poor , Laois made Meath look good and the scoreline flattered. Joe Mc Quillan made some awful decisions , it's like he's operating off a different rule book. At one point there was a punch by Donie Kingston to one of the Meath lads, should have been straight red but he gave a yellow. In the second match Dublin didn't really seem to come out of second gear yet managed to make mincemeat of Kildare. I honestly cant see beyond them achieving the 5 in a Row. I'll miss the Leinster final but to be honest that's a blessing because it's hard to sit through Dublin steam rolling over teams all the time. Here's hoping that Munster final is more of a spectacle. Hopefully it's not we need to be putting teams like cork to the sword to be honest if we are to have any hope of being close to Dublin we should be looking for a 10 pts plus victory anything less should be looked at as failure imo I think your right. Dublin will be playing a team promoted to Div 1 in the Leinster final. A team that lost a close div2 final to Donegal , yet everyone expects Meath to be hammered. Kerry will be playing a team relegated to Div 3 in the Munster final , and some people are talking up the game as if it could be close. Cork are very poor and id expect Kerry with the forward line they have to put up a big score against them .
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