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Post by kerrygold on May 5, 2019 15:52:27 GMT
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Post by dc84 on May 5, 2019 20:06:14 GMT
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Post by shaggy04 on May 6, 2019 10:19:56 GMT
Connaught championship should at least be seeded so New York and London avoid the big guns
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Post by john4 on May 6, 2019 10:45:50 GMT
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Post by kerrygold on May 10, 2019 18:57:35 GMT
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Post by kerrygold on May 11, 2019 19:42:47 GMT
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Post by brucewayne on May 11, 2019 20:30:35 GMT
When was the last time Limerick beat Cork in the Munster Championship?
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Post by royalkerryfan on May 11, 2019 21:08:22 GMT
Very disappointing result for Tipp end pf the road for Liam id imagine. Looks like a trip to the Parc again. Kildare were fortunate too, 2 points to spare over Wicklow.
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Post by ballhopper34 on May 11, 2019 21:12:59 GMT
11 May 2003
Limerick 0-16 Cork 0-6
By Jim O’Sullivan
WORDS on their own do not pay adequate tribute to Limerick footballers’ giant-killing act in Pairc Ui Chaoimh yesterday, in recording the county’s second ever Munster championship victory over Cork after a lapse of 38 years.
But, much more impressively, they overcame the effects of that potentially damaging defeat in Croke Park last Sunday to such devastating effect that they totally outplayed the provincial champions almost from start to finish.
It was tribute both to the outstanding character of the team and the managerial skills of Liam Kearns and you had to be there to appreciate the magnitude of their achievement.
Starting with the wind behind them Cork got the opening two points.
However, it was noteworthy that their second in the 10th minute, from wing-back Noel O'Leary, proved to be their only one from play until corner-forward Micheal O Croinin got their last score ten minutes into the second half.
Once Limerick had drawn level by the 13th minute, and gone ahead immediately afterwards through Stephen Lavin, they mounted a challenge which had the ultimate effect of almost suffocating an uninspiring home attack and subjecting the defence to continuous pressure.
John Galvin and John Quane achieved their predictable dominance in the middle.
Jason Stokes was to also contribute hugely until injury forced him off near the end of the half, and, probably more important than any other single factor, team captain Muiris Gavin inspired the team with his free-taking.
As happened in their opening championship game against Kerry last year, Limerick's ability to monopolise midfield provided the platform from which to launch their offensive.
The fact that their opening three scores came from the half-forwards signalled their successful play in this area and, combined with their general team play, it meant that the attacking potential of Martin Cronin and Eoin Sexton in the Cork defence was severely curtailed.
Additionally, the tactic of the Limerick half-forwards dropping back to support the defence had the added benefit of crowding out the Cork forwards.
Crucially, full-back Diarmuid Sheehy enjoyed significant success in obviating the threat from Colin Corkery, while Jason Stokes' commanding play in the centre was complemented by his facility to support the midfielders.
Galvin was the more forceful of the two, but John Quane, too, exerted a huge influence.
After 26 minutes play, Limerick enjoyed a three points lead, but their advantage in play was significantly greater.
Cork were limited to only occasional raids and while the likes of Brendan Jer O'Sullivan won some good ball, he did little positive with it and by and large, there was no cohesion in the attack.
Tom Kenny looked out of his class, Fionan Murray was making no impact with Tommy Stack sensibly playing him from the front and O Croinin played well below his League form.
Corkery's role was largely limited to his free-taking typically accurate, with the exception of one kick and it kept Cork in touch to a degree. At the break it was 0-10 to 0-5.
While nothing really happened in the second half to put a Limerick victory in any doubt, Cork did manage a substantial improvement at midfield, through Derek Kavanagh, and later substitute Maurice McCarthy.
Jim O'Donoghue was a good addition to the attack, while both Lynch and O'Brien stepped up on their displays at the heart of the defence.
On the other hand, Brian Begley was to play a more convincing part at full-forward.
Some poor finishing frustrated Cork before Corkery promised a goal in the 52nd minute, but after winning a pass from Murray near the end line he was shouldered over it by goalkeeper Seamus O'Donnell's timely tackle. Limerick never relaxed their grip, always dangerous in breaks from the back.
They had the fitness, the resolve and most tellingly of all the confidence to sustain their effort, with Stephen Lucey proving more than adequate replacement for Stokes.
And, nearing the end after Cork had Murray red-carded for use of the foot when Gavin blocked his way as he was about to kick a free Limerick could have had the ball in the net.
But, substitute Johnny Murphy opted to take his score when Pat Ahern was loose at the edge of the square.
*Brian White refereed the game effectively, working with a good team at both ends and on the sidelines.
Scorers: Limerick M. Gavin 0-9 (0-8 frees); S. Kelly, S. Lavin, C. Fitzgerald, M. Reidy, J. Quane, B. Begley and J. Murphy 0-1 each.
Cork: C. Corkery 0-4 frees; N. O'Leary and M. O Croinin 0-1 each.
LIMERICK: S. O'Donnell; M. O'Riordan, D. Sheehy, T. Stack; C. Mullane, J. Stokes, D. Reidy; J. Quane, J. Galvin; S. Kelly, M. Gavin (capt.), S. Lavin; C. Fitzgerald, B. Begley, M. Reidy. Subs: S. Lucey for Stokes (injured, 33rd minute); J. Murphy for Fitzgerald (65th); P. Ahern for M. Reidy (67th); P. Browne for O'Riordan (71st).
CORK: K. O'Dwyer; S. O'Brien, A. O'Connor, A. Lynch; N. O'Leary, M. Cronin, E. Sexton; N. Murphy, D. Kavanagh; B.J. O'Sullivan, T. Kenny, A. Cronin; F. Murray, C. Corkery, M. O Croinin.
Subs: M. McCarthy for Murphy (second half); J. O'Donoghue for Kenny (48th); C. Crowley for A. Cronin (55th); J. O'Shea for O Croinin (60th).
Referee: B. White (Wexford).
*Att: 8,000 (approx).
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Post by kerrygold on May 11, 2019 21:34:58 GMT
Where would a Kerry v Limerick Munster final be played?
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Post by kerrygold on May 11, 2019 21:40:32 GMT
Very disappointing result for Tipp end pf the road for Liam id imagine. Looks like a trip to the Parc again. Kildare were fortunate too, 2 points to spare over Wicklow. Kildare making zero progress, whafting away in a winter wonderland between the top of div 2 and bottom of div 1 and going nowhere in particular. Have been consistently there for many decades now............
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Post by ballhopper34 on May 11, 2019 21:53:20 GMT
Where would a Kerry v Limerick Munster final be played? Kerry's last Munster Championship game against Limerick was on 4 June 2011 in Limerick (Kerry won 1-26 to 3-9), so I imagine their next meeting will be in Killarney, assuming the home/away agreement is still in place.
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Post by kerryexile on May 11, 2019 22:12:22 GMT
It is one of the rules of human nature that people will do whatever is needed to survive as long as they can. With the complete dominance of Kerry and Dublin in Munster and Leinster other teams in these provinces are making a beeline for the back door. I was never convinced about Kildare's loss to Carlow last year. They went on to beat Mayo a few weeks later and were in the super eights. Some of the results this evening would suggest that this is spreading.
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Post by kerrygold on May 11, 2019 23:02:00 GMT
It is one of the rules of human nature that people will do whatever is needed to survive as long as they can. With the complete dominance of Kerry and Dublin in Munster and Leinster other teams in these provinces are making a beeline for the back door. I was never convinced about Kildare's loss to Carlow last year. They went on to beat Mayo a few weeks later and were in the super eights. Some of the results this evening would suggest that this is spreading. I'd say Kildare were just bad against Carlow last year.
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Post by kerrygold on May 11, 2019 23:03:05 GMT
Where would a Kerry v Limerick Munster final be played? Kerry's last Munster Championship game against Limerick was on 4 June 2011 in Limerick (Kerry won 1-26 to 3-9), so I imagine their next meeting will be in Killarney, assuming the home/away agreement is still in place. Handier than going to Cork, would take that.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on May 12, 2019 8:55:30 GMT
Very disappointing result for Tipp end pf the road for Liam id imagine. Looks like a trip to the Parc again. Kildare were fortunate too, 2 points to spare over Wicklow. Kildare making zero progress, whafting away in a winter wonderland between the top of div 2 and bottom of div 1 and going nowhere in particular. Have been consistently there for many decades now............ This is a role reversal but anyway... sure didn't they beat Mayo last year and make the Super 8s? Kildare rarely lose the games they shouldn't.
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Post by keepitsimple on May 12, 2019 12:50:54 GMT
Bad news for the Munster Championship with Tipperary's loss to Limerick. The championship needs a strong Tipperary team, especially with Cork in free fall at the moment. It's hard to believe that Tipperary were in the All Ireland semi final a couple of years ago and were nearly promoted to Division 1 as well. Instead, they are now out of Munster and facing Division 3 football next year. It's tough also on Liam Kearns who seemed to be leading Tipp in the right direction up to the last few months, and also to another Kerry man, Martin Horgan, who came on board with him this season.
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Post by sullyschoice on May 12, 2019 14:02:10 GMT
Bad and all as Cork are lately, surely they are a good bit better than Limerick. That result was shocking for Tipperary. Have they lost a few players in the last year or two
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Post by greengold35 on May 12, 2019 14:54:25 GMT
Bad and all as Cork are lately, surely they are a good bit better than Limerick. That result was shocking for Tipperary. Have they lost a few players in the last year or two Think that this was the strongest Tipp would have been for a while - Maher & Kiely missing but Quinlivan was back plus a few more. Kearns was quoted during the week as “ plotting for a Munster final vs Kerry” - maybe took the eye 👁 off the ball.
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Post by buck02 on May 12, 2019 17:42:01 GMT
Bad news for the Munster Championship with Tipperary's loss to Limerick. The championship needs a strong Tipperary team, especially with Cork in free fall at the moment. It's hard to believe that Tipperary were in the All Ireland semi final a couple of years ago and were nearly promoted to Division 1 as well. Instead, they are now out of Munster and facing Division 3 football next year. It's tough also on Liam Kearns who seemed to be leading Tipp in the right direction up to the last few months, and also to another Kerry man, Martin Horgan, who came on board with him this season. The last line explains a lot?
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Post by kerrygold on May 12, 2019 17:56:45 GMT
Both Tipp & Clare continuously struggling to break the div 3/2 barriers in the NFL as a launch pad to winning a Munster championship whereas the likes of Roscommon, Cavan, kildare and Meath for example often find themselves in div 1 of the NFL. Meath struggling to beat Offaly today doesn't bode well for a probable Meath Dublin Leinster final..............Looks like Derry gave Tyrone plenty of it today in Ulster.
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Post by dc84 on May 13, 2019 10:55:52 GMT
Some very competitive games between div 4 teams and 1/2. Galway struggled v London,Tyrone vs Derry Meath v offally,kildare Wicklow etc. We could see record winning margins in Munster and Leinster finals again
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Post by Mickmack on May 18, 2019 18:24:23 GMT
15 minutes gone and Cavan lead Monaghan by 1.04 to 2 points.
Cavan are tuned in while Monaghan are still in the dressingroom. The goal came from a peno but it wasnt a first cousin of a penalty.
If Cavan can keep it going for 70 minutes they will win this.
Some great points by Cavan from play too.
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Post by Mickmack on May 18, 2019 18:57:43 GMT
half time
Cavan 1.08 Monaghan 0.04.
McManus off his game with wides that would have been points on another day
Hard to see what Monaghan can do to rescue this game. About ten players could be substituted.
Monaghan have no score from play. Cavan playing out of their skins, defending in packs.
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Post by Mickmack on May 18, 2019 19:49:22 GMT
Cavan won by 1.13 to 12 points.
Big improvement by Monaghan but Cavan held out.
The Cavan fullback kicked a great score as did Galligan their midfielder when they were needed.
Niall Kearns came on which was great to see about 6 months after open heart surgery. His midfielder partner from last year, Darren Hughes had a broken ankle and was badly missed. Enjoyable game overall with the good and the bad but nothing ugly.
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Post by taibhse on May 19, 2019 18:11:04 GMT
The best of referees are not immune to mistakes but that penalty call by Conor Lane was about as absurd as you will ever see. How can he, a top rated official, make that call without a high degree of certainty?
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Post by buck02 on May 20, 2019 7:34:27 GMT
The best of referees are not immune to mistakes but that penalty call by Conor Lane was about as absurd as you will ever see. How can he, a top rated official, make that call without a high degree of certainty? Because he is Conor Lane and he is always right. He should be "suspended" for at least a month after that. But of course he is one of the elite refs, along with David Gough, and they are allowed to make huge mistakes without any consequences.
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Post by dc84 on May 20, 2019 11:13:13 GMT
Monaghan getting knocked out a bit of a surprise opens the door for Cavan or Armagh to make Ulster final. With monaghan and one of Donegal Armagh going into qualifiers early makes the quarters harder to predict.
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Post by kerrygold on May 20, 2019 19:18:24 GMT
Monaghan perhaps slipping off the end of the top table. Good for Dublin!
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Post by Mickmack on May 20, 2019 21:09:41 GMT
Kevin McStay couldn't go mental at Kieran McGeeney's incident seeing as he was suspended himself last year. When you are taking the high moral ground you have to have clean hands i suppose.
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