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Post by Ballyfireside on Nov 19, 2019 22:46:13 GMT
You can't punish a lad for trying to go to Oz, if he stays here the likelihood he is one of our better players so he won't be ignored and he can't be discriminated against.
I love watching the compromise games but they sow the seeds that took Tagdgeen and TW and now MO'C from us, and with that 2/3 Sams.
The issue is that the structure of the Irish economy, including gravitation from rural/hinterland - it hangs amateur sportsmen (and women!) out to dry. Who in their right could volunteer 200 hours a month of commitment to extreme sports while we have scumbags ripping off society with fraudulent insurance claims that makes it even harder for players to make ends meet and who are already sacrificed, what with all the social restrictions, insurance premiums, etc.
It is damage limitation really and as long as Kerry will be to the forefront of producing world class 'catch aswell as kick' footballers, we will bear the brunt of Oz raids. I wonder do Dublin compete with Oz as regards money - I can't see us doing it, well MO'C left, and Ciarán Kilkenny returned, 'of his own accord?'
Sports is a game of tight margins as we again learned in Sept so it take very little to throw away a Sammy Maguire.
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Post by glengael on Nov 20, 2019 10:27:38 GMT
I know many posters here couldn't care less but. The Club Players Association announced today that they are withdrawing from the Calendar Review Taskforce. They say they the process has been designed to ensure the current status quo remains an cannot put their names to such a compromosed document. They have published the full statement and proposals they made to the Taskforce since June. Are they suggesting that it was 'consultation' for appearance sake only? Imagine that such a thing could happen in GAA land.
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Nov 20, 2019 11:52:07 GMT
Talk of this going to court now and the guy in questioning has been hinting that other members of the county board have previously broken the same registration rules.
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Post by kerryexile on Nov 20, 2019 21:53:27 GMT
The numerous David Moran critics would have loved if this had been a rule 10 years ago. The rest of us are relieved it wasnt, or it now would be 10 years since we would have won an All Ireland. And if Tommy and Mark hadn't gone to Oz, it might be 2 months since we won it. Exactly the point Southward. In order to progress this debate in an adult way, we must separate two things, 1) the the kid going for the candy, which we all accept, and 2) the structure put in place by the GAA that gives a free run to the temptation pushers.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Nov 20, 2019 22:15:44 GMT
And if Tommy and Mark hadn't gone to Oz, it might be 2 months since we won it. Exactly the point Southward. In order to progress this debate in an adult way, we must separate two things, 1) the the kid going for the candy, which we all accept, and 2) the structure put in place by the GAA that gives a free run to the temptation pushers. Does the International Rules game represent that? Has any Irish player ever been drafted AFTER playing for Ireland vs Australia?
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Post by kerrygold on Nov 21, 2019 9:00:29 GMT
Kerry will need to be as cutting edge off the pitch in the career/commercial development of their players as they are in preparing their players for playing games in a effort to retain their blue-chip players. Hopefully this is happening specifically. If it is not then it is just flying by the seat of the pants stuff. Lose a collection of your young and up and coming blue-chip players to AFL, then all expectations of success have to be lowered accordingly..............
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Post by Mickmack on Nov 24, 2019 13:19:40 GMT
The chairman, the Whatsapp messages and the fallout - the inside story behind the GAA's latest county board saga
Peter O’Halloran will not be sanctioned for messaging a referee that he would send him to ‘ride’ the Slane club in a match. Sports Editor John Greene is a county board delegate for the club and has been dismayed by recent events
John Greene
November 23 2019 20:42 PM
It was the worst kept secret in Meath GAA circles, that the former county board chairman, Peter O’Halloran, will not be sanctioned for calling on a referee to “ride” a club.
The decision, which was confirmed on Saturday, is said to have been taken based on legal advice.
It is a dramatic conclusion to a shoddy affair which has shocked Meath GAA people and left the management committee of the board deeply divided. But despite the wishes of some, this may not yet be the end of the matter.
O’Halloran was forced to step down as chairman two months ago after WhatsApp messages he sent to a referee over two years ago were made public. The referee, Patrick Neilis, made a complaint to the county board in early September and O’Halloran resigned his position on September 20.
At 3.41pm on March 13, 2017 O’Halloran — who at the time was chairman of the county’s CCC — sent a message to Neilis, saying, "I [sic] be sending you to ride Slane in a month or so." A minute later, he followed up with, "Tramps". Three weeks later, on April 3, Neilis sent a message to O’Halloran at 4.54pm asking, "When do you need me to go slane". Almost two hours later O’Halloran replied, "May or June when things die down". He followed that quickly with, "See u later".
In July of this year, Neilis sent an email to the secretary of the Slane club with screen grabs of the WhatsApp messages. "I can’t hold on to this much longer," he wrote. He said he had subsequently refused to referee games involving Slane, and that he was "shocked at response that he wanted me to do that to a club because of his dispute with slane GFC". Neilis added that he was "honest".
O’Halloran’s first message to Neilis came just over two weeks after a controversial league match between his own club, Drumconrath, and Slane was abandoned in the closing minutes. O’Halloran was at the game, which was played in Slane on February 26. It was a spiky, tight affair, simmering with aggression on the field and on the line, but the real trouble happened when an altercation between at least one supporter from each side broke out on an embankment.
The referee abandoned the game, later reporting that he did so after a Slane player left the field, although the exact sequence of events in those crazy few minutes were subsequently hotly disputed. It later emerged that the young player who ran to the embankment did so because he believed his family was in danger.
Both clubs were summoned to appear before Meath’s CCC and, ultimately, fines and bans were issued, including a six-month ban for the Slane player identified by the referee. This was the backdrop to O’Halloran’s exchange with Neilis and although he correctly removed himself from the hearings, it can be seen from the subsequent messages that he appeared to harbour a grudge.
In a bizarre twist, the clubs were then scheduled to meet again on St Patrick’s Day in a cup competition, but Slane pulled out of the game after a request for it to be deferred pending an appeal was refused by the CCC. The suspended player had scored five out of Slane’s eight points in the first game, and Slane argued that Drumconrath had gained an advantage from the CCC’s decision not to hear the appeal before the game, and that given the ongoing tensions between the two clubs it would be better to allow more time to elapse before the sides met again. Slane were thrown out of the competition and fined €200.
Slane appealed to Leinster Council, and successfully argued they had been treated unfairly. The player’s six-month ban was overturned, and Meath’s CCC were slapped on the wrist and told to refix the cup game. The fine was also quashed. Meath County Board did not appeal Leinster Council’s findings.
In his resignation statement two months ago, O’Halloran admitted to sending the messages, describing it as "an error of judgement". He added: "It was a bad call on my behalf that was carried out in the heat of the moment, but was never acted upon, and is an incident that I deeply regret."
His contention, however, that it was done in the "heat of the moment" rings hollow given that there were three weeks between the first and second set of messages. That’s quite a 'moment'. The fact too that he has yet to apologise to Neilis or to the Slane club for his behaviour does not reflect well on him.
And if the former chairman’s actions have left a sour taste, so too have events since, up to and including this weekend’s news that there will be no sanction. As of Saturday evening, the county board had yet to formally contact Slane or Neilis with an update, or an apology for the actions of its former chairman, despite reports that a letter was being prepared.
Meanwhile, Slane and Neilis have looked on aghast that someone who admits to having done wrong can escape sanction — albeit on a technicality. It is a scary prospect, but the question remains: What if Neilis had agreed to referee a Slane game? What would have happened then?
Following O’Halloran’s resignation, the Meath executive sought advice as to how it could proceed to investigate the complaint. It was decided that Leinster Council would provide an investigation team which would then report back to the Meath executive. In plain terms, this was merely a fact-finding mission, and Meath would still have to decide what, if any, sanction would be imposed.
On more than one occasion, some members of the executive queried this process, as they had all worked alongside O’Halloran, some for many years, and there were friendships and loyalties within the group which could become a problem if hard decisions were required.
There was unquestionably a conflict — and this was voiced several times. Some members of the executive pushed for the matter to be dealt with entirely outside the county, but were told that this was not provided for in the rules. At a time when the goings-on of at least three other county boards — Mayo, Galway and Longford — are in the spotlight, events in Meath again raise serious questions about governance within the GAA.
Former GAA president Liam O’Neill, along with Leinster Council operations manager Shane Flanagan and Fintan Fanning of the Wicklow county executive, were nominated to investigate the complaint made by Neilis. Having taken legal advice, and discussed the matter at length internally, Slane decided not to make a formal complaint but instead wrote to the county board expressing its concerns over the messages and asking to be kept informed.
But through the whole process, right up until Saturday, there had been a lack of transparency. Neilis, the Slane club and clubs in the county were not kept in the loop. Slane were given to understand that it would get an opportunity to highlight its concerns but this never materialised.
Furthermore, just hours before the first county board meeting in the wake of O’Halloran’s departure, acting chairman John Kavanagh spoke to Slane’s chairman and county board delegate Peter Mooney and said that he would not be allowed to raise the matter at that time as the investigation was live. He said Slane would get an opportunity to air its concerns.
Before the next meeting, in November, the Slane secretary received an email from Mairead Delaney, the county secretary, to say that the investigation was still ongoing. "I will be in touch with you as soon as I have further updates," she wrote. That was on November 1 and the club has heard nothing since, even though a decision has now been taken, and the board has been in possession of the final report for over a week.
On Wednesday last, Neilis wrote to the county board seeking a copy of the report into his complaint under data protection legislation. He has yet to receive a reply.
On Saturday evening, the Slane club decided to break its silence for the first time since the controversy broke and released a statement.
"Our club has not been afforded an opportunity to express its complete abhorrence at the content of this exchange between the then chairman of the CCC and a referee," said a club spokesperson. "We have not been given the opportunity to voice this at county board level and we feel we may have been misdirected by the county board, or else just ignored by the investigation team.
"We have not received any apology from Peter O’Halloran or the Meath County Board for what has happened, or any assurances that this was indeed a once-off event that was only avoided by the good conscience of the referee on this particular occasion.
"We have perhaps unwisely placed our trust in the disciplinary institutions of the GAA and do feel aggrieved and let down. We, like so many other clubs around County Meath and around the country, are hard working GAA people, not 'tramps'. We are trying to improve our facilities and provide Gaelic games for our community."
Shortly before 5.0pm on Friday week last, Shane Flanagan hand-delivered the investigation committee’s findings to Mairead Delaney. The report found that O’Halloran had fallen short in "leadership, transparency, accountability and integrity" as set out in the GAA’s governance guide and that he had been right to resign in the circumstances.
A management committee meeting was called for last Monday night, and this was the first opportunity for most members of the committee to see the report. Each report was numbered before being handed out, and had to be returned after the meeting.
At the meeting in Meath GAA’s headquarters in Dunganny, O’Halloran’s former colleagues on the Meath executive were deeply divided on what action — if any — should be taken against him. Having afforded members time to review the report, the acting chairman John Kavanagh threw it open to the floor and, despite some objections, said it was now in their hands to come up with a decision.
It soon became apparent that the committee was split, however. Some members felt a sanction had to be imposed, arguing that Meath GAA had to be seen to do the right thing, and that the best solution was to invoke a seldom used rule in which a person's privileges in the Association can be revoked. Amid speculation that O’Halloran has been nominated by his club to run again for chairman at the county convention on December 16, it was proposed that this rule be used to debar him from serving on the county committee for at least one year.
Others on the executive, however, felt that O’Halloran had suffered enough and had served his punishment in having to resign. He and his family, it was stated, had been through enough.
Having heard both sides, John Kavanagh then informed the meeting that he had received legal advice from the board’s solicitor Liam Keane, a former secretary of the GAA’s Disputes Resolution Authority (DRA), just before the meeting.
He said that it was Keane’s view that under rule 7.3(5) they had no powers to suspend O’Halloran. The rule states that "evidence or information shall not be accepted or considered unless applicable to a period not longer than 96 weeks prior". In other words, there is a statute of limitations on wrongdoing in the GAA, even though the wrongdoing only came to light a few months ago.
None of the members of the Meath executive present at the meeting knew of this rule until last week.
But those arguing for debarment felt that O’Halloran’s admission of wrongdoing just two months ago gave them legitimate grounds to act as it constituted fresh evidence. The view was that they were not bound by any statute of limitations because of O’Halloran’s admission.
A secret ballot was called. This revealed the extent of the split, as seven members voted in favour of debarment from holding office for a year and six in favour of no further action. However, subsequent to that vote on Monday night, the board's solicitor is understood to have reaffirmed his opinion that they could not take action. The decision not to impose any sanction was confirmed by the board in a statement released to the Sunday Independent Saturday afternoon. The statement was then circulated to clubs on Saturday night. It is bound to provoke a mixed reaction. There are those on the executive — and in the wider community of Meath GAA — who argue that legal advice is just that, advice, and that some form of action should have been taken, especially as O’Halloran would be well within his rights to appeal and test the validity of that decision.
It appears as if some within Meath’s executive committee have failed to grasp the seriousness of the situation. For instance, when the investigation was still ongoing, someone in the upper echelons of Meath GAA thought it was a good idea to have their former chairman as one of its guests at the county senior final between Ratoath and Summerhill, a move that raised plenty of eyebrows and certainly sent out the wrong signal at the county’s annual showpiece.
And for some who intend to run for important positions at the upcoming convention to put forward an argument that a person who has committed a serious wrongdoing should not be banned because they have suffered enough is alarming. Does this, then, mean that this will be an accepted defence for any breaches of discipline which come before Meath’s CCC next year? Of course it doesn’t, the idea is laughable. But it is worrying all the same that this mindset existed in this particular instance. Most people who break the rules regret their actions almost immediately, but this alone is not reason enough to escape sanction. The whole affair raises questions about principles of governance in Meath GAA.
"Meath is a proud GAA county," said the Slane spokesperson, "with proud GAA people who expect so much better and it is our fear that unless we set and meet good standards, it may unfortunately be some time before we see our glory days back again. Standards are set at the top."
A spokesperson for the board said Saturday that "we acknowledge that Slane GAA club is an innocent party".
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Post by Mickmack on Nov 24, 2019 17:47:42 GMT
Colm O'Rourke
November 24 2019 14:15 PM
In case you missed it, there was a massive promotion of hurling last weekend. No, it wasn't in Fermanagh, Tyrone or Leitrim. It wasn't even in Offaly or Antrim, where things are not going too well at present.
This hurling promotion event was in the Mets' Citi Field in New York. Four Irish teams - Kilkenny, Limerick, Tipperary and Wexford - played out this new-fangled version, with soccer goals and some type of scoring system which nobody understands.
I imagine the promotion of hurling would be better served by these four teams spending a weekend in some of the weaker counties, maybe doing a bit of training with teams on a Saturday, with an exhibition match against the county side on Sunday. And Saturday night would also offer countless promotion possibilities with various types of functions. Players could be looked after financially too, because nobody would disagree with that type of initiative.
The mongrel breed of hurling last weekend was a GPA-organised junket. If the GAA want to give top players a break in New York then the best of luck to them, but don't try to dress it up as some sort of promotion for the ancient game of hurling.
The GPA were at it again, too, that weekend with one of their lavish dinners to honour some top Irish person, or Irish American. On this occasion it was Seán Mulryan. The format is the same. Get some well known and successful businessman (no poor man ever gets honoured) and sell tables on the strength of their name.
The packages vary from $25,000 for the Liam MacCarthy package down to $2,500 for the O'Duffy version. For the top payers, there is exclusive access to all the, em, big wigs in the GPA, tickets for all types of events, including the All-Ireland and a Ryder Cup style golf tournament in both the US and Ireland. The favoured course in Ireland to look after all these important people is the K Club.
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I have been wondering what exclusive access means - perhaps it is up to intellectuals like Donal Óg Cusack, who could lecture on how British Imperialism still has an effect on the sweeper system in hurling. Or perhaps Dessie Farrell could tell everyone like myself how in God's good name this charade in New York or, the week before in Boston, has anything to do with the GAA. Some of the old guard never seem to leave the GPA, even when they have no official positions.
To me, the GPA is a Dublin-dominated organisation which has looked after its own very well. I was surprised Seán Mulryan took up their offer. He has put huge resources, both financial and otherwise, into Roscommon GAA and the Hospice in Roscommon-Mayo among other things, so he is a man of substance. He does not need the GPA who now unashamedly espouse completely different values to what the GAA is about. The GPA look after the few, the GAA traditionally stood for the many until they sold out.
The existing three-year agreement between the GPA and the GAA is now up for renewal. The old agreement gave the GPA over €3m a year, but worse still, 15 per cent of commercial revenue. It was a bad deal with the prospect of getting worse. How could the GAA give away so much money to an independent organisation, especially without being able to exercise oversight or control? This money could have helped a lot of clubs who desperately need grants for playing fields and dressing rooms.
Of course the GAA at central level will claim that they have control over the GPA. Do they control the wages and expenses paid to their executives? The same ones who could be enticed away by Google or Intel or the Kerry Group or some other multi-million euro company if they did not pay them such wages. That's a joke by the way.
Did the GAA agree with the number of people who were brought to New York and Boston and were part of the fundraising dinner?
I ask because at a recent Central Council meeting there was annoyance expressed that a fundraising dinner was going ahead in New York which was in direct contravention of an agreement with the GPA. The real question now is, who runs the GAA?
What will the leaders of all us rank and file foot soldiers do about this? Will they roll over again and give the GPA what they want when a new deal is agreed while the GPA laughs, and does the opposite to what was agreed? The GAA in New York badly needs funds for the refit of Gaelic Park. The last thing needed is the plundering of the city for a group who represent two per cent of the Association. New York is now seen as some type of GPA cash dispenser.
The GPA may view people like me as dinosaurs who do not understand their great work - all the well-being issues tackled and grants towards exclusive college scholarships. I would love to see the breakdown of where all those scholarships have gone. I suspect there would be a weighting towards Dublin. When I raised this before the GPA tried to silence me and embarrass a former Meath player who had been helped. If that tactic had been tried on the pitch I would have attempted grievous bodily harm on those involved! And there would have been a long queue of comrades to help.
The GPA put huge emphasis on player welfare projects. In my own profession I know a lot about that subject. If the GPA think this is a big part of their role then perhaps the government will cut the grants to players as the GPA seem to be making so much money from other sources and helping those who should be getting assistance through the HSE. They obviously don't need the money.
But that is what you are dealing with here. A group who really believe the guiding principles of the GAA do not apply to them and that I need to be sent to the Russian Gulags for some type of indoctrination. Maybe they also think that there are many thousands like me who do not appreciate this new form of hurling. Maybe it will end up in the Olympics - although at least we would be guaranteed gold medals.
Well that is not my idea of the GAA - past, present or future. My view of our great sporting body is that it is for everyone and status or success does not confer greater rights or power on anyone. The idea of a players' group which is organised and financed outside the control of the GAA is completely contradictory to the guiding principles which have made the GAA so successful but is now being attacked from within by our most precious commodity, our greatest players. Self-interest is not good for the GAA. The players have all the power. With it comes responsibilities. Might does not mean right.
Let me be clear on one thing. The GAA does need a body representing players, one that plays a key role in the big questions like fixtures, burn-out, scholarships and so on. However, it should be from within the GAA, not as some outside agency which takes the money but none of the responsibility. The GPA should be playing a much bigger role on things like fixtures at the moment rather than swanning around Boston and New York when issues at home are far more important. What has this to do with the GAA?
Furthermore, I do believe that there is a large body of players in weaker counties who are not happy with the GPA and feel a ruling clique have lost the run of themselves when they should be going back to basics.
The GAA is facing a crisis on this issue. The GAA at central level have no control over the GPA, in fact the tail is giving the dog a right good wagging. So the GAA at central level has a choice. If the GPA wishes to continue as an independent body then good luck to them. However, that should mean they lose all financial contributions and they can paddle their own canoe. Or they can become a vibrant voice for players from within.
We will soon see whether those elected officials on behalf of the GAA run the organisation on the basis of equality and in the interest of all members or whether a small group are allowed plunder the entire body. It's time to stand up and be counted lads.
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Post by Galway breeze on Nov 24, 2019 19:16:02 GMT
I have always admired Colm for pointing out flaws within the Gaa. The Gaa organization and GPA needs to be controlled in terms of the way money is spent. The government and Irish Sports Council should investigate where the Gaa's finances are coming from and is this money been allocated to clubs that are in need of it to develop clubs and under age academy's. Colm is right, there are elitist and alot of cronyism at the healm and they are only interested in the already well develop and financially better of county's.
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Post by Mickmack on Nov 26, 2019 9:15:24 GMT
By Paul Keane Tuesday, November 26, 2019 - 06:15 AM Gaelic Players’ Association head Paul Flynn reckons the Club Players Association has performed a service of sorts by quitting the GAA’s task force on fixtures reform.
The CPA quit the Fixtures Calendar Review task force last week, claiming it was ignored throughout the process of drawing up potential new football Championship structures.
Learn more The CPA also said it fears that of three proposals which are due to be presented shortly by the committee, the GAA favours the one retaining a mildly tweaked version of the status quo.
The GPA is also represented on the task force and Flynn said they too disagree with retaining the ‘as is’ version though backed the other two recommendations; a championship comprised of four eight-team provinces and a Championship based on the current league structure.
“What they have done by leaving is really shine a spotlight on this (taskforce) group,” said Flynn. “It is going to be very difficult for administrators to go with the ‘as is’ version, when they can see that the club players don’t want it and the county players don’t want it. Yet they could do it. They have done that before, they have gone against the players time and time again.
“The CPA and GPA, we don’t fully agree on all aspects of what they are looking for and what we are looking for. For instance, we have to protect the welfare of the players, one of the things that the CPA were looking for was for the league to be run off seven weeks in a row.
“And that is just not possible with the demands of the current game. That was just not possible.
“But we agree on a lot, we agree on a restructure of the Championship and there are two options in there that we will be advocating strongly for, we will let the players decide which one.
“That is where we feel the change should be and not just settling for a conservative ‘as is’ model.”
Speaking at the announcement of UPMC as official healthcare partner to the GAA/GPA, Flynn took the opportunity to address a number of misconceptions about the GPA.
It followed criticism of the players union, the most recent of which came from pundit and former Meath star Colm O’Rourke who, among other things, hit out at the staging of the Super 11s games in New York and the GPA’s fundraising activities in the US.
“There was 11,500 in a baseball pitch in the middle of New York and it was a great day, it was a great event,” said Flynn.
“There was a great atmosphere. Where the criticism is coming from, is it warranted? I don’t believe so.”
The former Dublin football star claimed that the GPA is generally misunderstood.
“There is one big misconception out there at the moment, with the players (group), that we’re out of control, that we are trying to drive this to professionalism,” said Flynn. “When I finish up in this job, the biggest thing, I don’t like using the word legacy, is around changing the culture around how inter-county players deal with their careers.
“I would love to see a time that we get to when inter-county players don’t have to retire because their job has got too demanding. That ultimately would be what I would see as being success. That is not professionalism, that is purely about their professions.”
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Post by Mickmack on Nov 26, 2019 9:17:50 GMT
Excuse my ignorance on this but does the GPA represent all gaelic players including club players or do they just represent county players?
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Nov 26, 2019 11:15:00 GMT
Excuse my ignorance on this but does the GPA represent all gaelic players including club players or do they just represent county players? Just intercounty players.
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Post by kerrygold on Nov 26, 2019 20:21:55 GMT
Crazy that we are still welded to four uneven provinces. Even up four regional Conferences and drive on.........
Happy to trust Paul Flynn & the GPA to address the career-playing balance of intercounty players.
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Post by Mickmack on Nov 27, 2019 9:25:04 GMT
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By John Fogarty GAA Correspondent
Follow @johnfogartyirl Tuesday, November 26, 2019 - 06:26 PM The vast majority of county boards will be expected to conclude their championships earlier next year as the GAA have scheduled the 2020/21 All-Ireland club semi-finals for December.
With that in mind, Leinster are planning to begin their provincial club competitions a couple of weeks earlier than this year and their fellow provinces are expected to do the same. The All-Ireland senior club semi-finals in 13 months’ time have been confirmed for December 12 and 13.
The next step in introducing a GAA calendar year is certain to put more pressure on dual counties to fulfil their championship fixtures programmes. Cork have already expressed concern about the feasibility of doing so, secretary Kevin O’Donovan warning of a “crash” for the county next August.
The 2019/20 All-Ireland club semi-finals will take place over the January 4/5 and 11/12 weekends with the finals organised for January 18th (Junior and Intermediate hurling), 19 (Senior football and Hurling) and January 25/26 (Junior and intermediate Football).
Should the Allianz Leagues remain unaffected by poor weather, there will be a five-week break between the league finals and the start of the Championship in which the GAA hopes counties will utilise the time to allow sufficient club activity. There are two break weekends in the Allianz Football League proper - February 15/16 and March 7/8 - and one in hurling - February 8/9.
The return of the U20 football championship to spring from summer, specifically February and March, is sure to raise questions about player welfare unless the GAA can prevent senior managers from using U20 players during the Allianz League. The U20 semi-finals will replace the All-Ireland senior club finals in Croke Park on St Patrick’s Day.
As was reported, the Leinster SFC final will take place on a Saturday evening on June 21 with the Munster decider returning to a Sunday afternoon slot the day after. In a new rota with Leinster, the Munster final will be played on a Saturday in 2021.
Details of the lopsided new Allianz Hurling League top flight structure were also confirmed. In the first round of Division 1 Group A, 2019 All-Ireland champions Tipperary face 2019 league winners Limerick on January 25. Group A comprises the pair, Cork, Galway, Westmeath and Waterford with Group B consisting of Carlow, Clare, Dublin, Laois, Kilkenny, and Wexford. The Division 1 hurling final takes place on March 22, the four football deciders and the U20 FC final a week later.
As was highlighted after a Central Council meeting in September, the second and third rounds of the Super 8 will be determined by the outcomes of the first round matches. Winners will face winners and losers take on losers. In the event of a drawn match, a lot will take place to confirm who plays who in Round 2.
The new Tier 2 All-Ireland SFC will commence on June 20 with the quarter-finals arranged for June 27, the semi-finals in Croke Park on July 5 with the final also in GAA HQ on July 18 or 19.
The GAA have also confirmed that “winner on the day” criteria will apply to all Tier 2 football games other than the drawn final, the Christy Ring and Nicky Rackard Cup semi-finals and relegation play-offs, Ring, Rackard and Lory Meagher final replays, All-Ireland club championship semi-finals and finals, minor and U20 football and hurling finals and All-Ireland senior hurling quarter and semi-final replays as well as All-Ireland senior football semi-final replays.
Dates for your diary January 4-5. All-Ireland Club SFC semi finals: Corofin (Galway) v Clonmel Commercials/Nemo Rangers; Ballyboden St Endas/Eire Og v Naomh Conaill/Kilcoo; All-Ireland Club SHC semi-finals: Connacht v Borris-Ileigh; Ballyhale Shamrocks/St Mullins; All-Ireland IHC semi-finals: Connacht v Munster, Leinster v Ulster; All-Ireland Club JHC semi-finals: Connacht v Munster, Leinster v Ulster.
January 11-12. All-Ireland IFC semi finals: Connacht v Munster, Leinster v Ulster; All-Ireland JFC semi-finals: Connacht v Munster, Leinster v Ulster.
January 18. All-Ireland IHC, and JHC finals, Croke Park
January 19. All-Ireland Club SFC and SHC finals, Croke Park.
January 25. All-Ireland Club IFC and JFC football finals, Croke Park.
NATIONAL LEAGUES Allianz Football League, Rd 1 (7pm unless stated): Division 1, Donegal v Mayo, Ballybofey, 7.15pm; Dublin v Kerry, Croke Park, 7.15pm; Division 2, Armagh v Cavan, Athletic Grounds; Division 3, Derry v Leitrim, Celtic Park, 5pm; Cork v Offaly, Páirc Uí Chaoimh, 6pm; Division 4, Carlow v Wicklow, Ne*ch Cullen Park; Waterford v Limerick, Dungarvan.
Allianz Hurling League, Rd 1 (7pm unless stated): Division 1 (Group A), Tipperary v Limerick, Semple Stadium, 5.15pm; (Group B): Laoise v Wexford, MW Hire O'Moore Park; Division 2A, Mayo v Kerry, Castlebar, 2pm; Division 2B, Roscommon v Warwickshire, Dr Hyde Park, 1pm; Division 3B, Lancashire v Cavan, Abotstown, 2pm.
January 26. Allianz Football League, Rd 1 (2pm unless stated): Division 1, Tyrone v Meath, Omagh; Galway v Monaghan, Salthill, 2.30pm; Division 2, Westmeath v Clare, Mullingar; Roscommon v Laois, Dr Hyde Park; Kildare v Fermanagh, Newbridge, 2.30pm; Division 3, Longford v Louth, Pearse Park; Tipperary v Down, Clonmel; Division 4: Antrim v Wexford, Glenavy; London v Sligo, Ruislip.
Allianz Hurling League, Rd 1 (2pm unless stated): Division 1 (Group A): Galway v Westmeath, Salthill, 12.30; Waterford v Cork, Walsh Park; Division 1 (Group B): Clare v Carlow, Ennis; Kilkenny v Dublin, Nowlan Park. Division 2A: Wicklow v Antrim, Aughrim; Offaly v Meath, Birr. Division 2B: Kildare v London, Newbridge, 12.30; Derry v Down, Owenbeg. Division 3A: Louth v Tyrone, Darver; Donegal v Armagh, Letterkenny; Monaghan v Longford, Inniskeen; Division 3B: Fermanagh v Leitrim, Enniskillen.
January 29 (Wed). Electric Ireland HE: Sigerson Cup Final.
February 1. Allianz Football League, Rd 2 (7pm unless stated): Division 1, Mayo v Dublin, Castlebar; Kerry v Galway, Tralee. Division 2: Cavan v Westmeath, Kingspan Breffni Park; Laois v Armagh, Portlaoise, 6pm. Division 3: Down v Derry, Newry. Division 4: Wexford v Carlow, Wexford Park, 2pm.
Allianz Hurling League, Rd 2:(7pm unless stated): Division 1 (Group A): Cork v Tipperary, Páirc Uí Chaoimh. Division 2B: Warwickshire v Kildare, Birmingham. Division 3B: Sligo v Lancashire, Markievicz Park, 1pm.
Craobh na hÉireann, Scór na nÓg.
February 2. Allianz Football League, Rd 2 (2pm unless stated): Division 1, Monaghan v Tyrone, Castleblayney; Meath v Donegal, Navan, 2.30pm. Division 2: Clare v Kildare, Ennis; Fermanagh v Roscommon, Enniskillen. Division 3: Louth v Tipperary, Drogheda; Leitrim v Cork, Carrick-on-Shannon; Offaly v Longford, Tullamore. Division 4: Limerick v London, Kilmallock, 12pm; Wicklow v Waterford, Aughrim; Sligo v Antrim, Markievicz Park.
Allianz Hurling League, Rd 2 (2pm unless stated): Division 1 (Group A): Westmeath v Waterford, Mullingar; Limerick v Galway, Gaelic Grounds, 2.30pm. Division 1 (Group B): Dublin v Laois, Parnell Park; Carlow v Kilkenny, Ne*ch Cullen Park; Wexford v Clare, Wexford Park. Division 2A: Meath v Wicklow, Navan, 12.30pm; Antrim v Mayo, Loughgiel; Kerry v Offaly, Tralee. Division 2B: Down v Roscommon, Ballycran; London v Derry, Ruislip. Division 3A: Longford v Louth, Pearse Park; Armagh v Monaghan, Athletic Grounds; Tyrone v Donegal, Omagh. Division 3B: Cavan v Fermanagh, Kingspan Breffni Park.
February 8. Allianz Football League, Rd 3 (7pm unless stated): Division 1: Dublin v Monaghan, Croke Park. Division 2: Armagh v Kildare, Athletic Grounds. Division 4: Waterford v Wexford, Dungarvan.
February 9. Allianz Football League, Rd 3 (2pm unless stated): Division 1, Meath v Mayo, Navan; Donegal v Galway, Letterkenny; Tyrone v Kerry, Omagh. Division 2: Westmeath v Fermanagh, Mullingar; Laois v Cavan, Portlaoise; Roscommon v Clare, Dr Hyde Park. Division 3: Derry v Tipperary, Owenbeg, 1pm); Longford v Leitrim, Pearse Park; Louth v Offaly, Drogheda; Cork v Down, Páirc Uí Chaoimh. Division 4: Carlow v Limerick, Ne*ch Cullen Park; Wicklow v Sligo, Aughrim; London v Antrim, Ruislip.
February 12. Electric Ireland HE Fitzgibbon Cup Final.
February 15. Allianz Hurling League, Rd 3 (7pm unless stated): Division 1 (Group A): Limerick v Waterford, Gaelic Grounds; Division 1 (Group B): Carlow v Dublin, Ne*ch Cullen Park, 5pm. Division 2A: Meath v Kerry, Trim, 2pm. Division 2B: Down v Warwickshire, Ballycran, 1pm.
February 16. Allianz Hurling League, Rd 3 (2pm unless stated): Division 1 (Group A): Westmeath v Cork, Mullingar; Galway v Tipperary, Salthill. Division 1 (Group B): Clare v Laois, Ennis; Wexford v Kilkenny, Wexford Park. Division 2A: Mayo v Wicklow, Castlebar, 1pm; Offaly v Antrim, O’Connor Park. Division 2B: Roscommon v London, Dr Hyde Park, 1pm; Derry v Kildare, Owenbeg. Division 3A: Longford v Armagh, Pearse Park; Louth v Donegal, Darver; Monaghan v Tyrone, Castleblayney. Division 3A: Fermanagh v Sligo, Enniskillen; Leitrim v Cavan, Carrick-on-Shannon.
February 22. Allianz Football League, Rd 4 (7pm unless stated): Division 1, Dublin v Donegal, Croke Park. Division 2, Fermanagh v Cavan, Enniskillen. Division 3: Down v Longford, Newry; Tipperary v Cork, Semple Stadium. Division 4: Sligo v Waterford, Markievicz Park, 2pm.
Allianz Hurling League, Rd 4 (7pm unless stated): Division 1 (Group B): Dublin v Wexford, Croke Park, 5pm; Laois v Carlow, Portlaoise. Division 2A: Wicklow v Kerry, Aughrim, 2pm. Division 2B: Derry v Warwickshire, Owenbeg, 1pm. Division 3B: Lancashire v Fermanagh, Abbotstown, 2.30pm.
February 23. Allianz Football League, Rd 4 (2pm unless stated): Division 1, Kerry v Meath, Killarney, 1pm; Galway v Tyrone, Tuam; Monaghan v Mayo, Clones.
Division 2: Clare v Laois, Ennis; Westmeath v Armagh, Mullingar; Kildare v Roscommon, Newbridge, 2.30pm. Division 3: Derry v Louth, Owenbeg; Leitrim v Offaly, Carrick-on-Shannon. Division 4: Wexford v London, Wexford Park, 12pm; Limerick v Wicklow, Rathkeale; Antrim v Carlow, Glenavy, 2.30pm.
Allianz Hurling League, Rd 4 (2pm unless stated): Division 1 (Group A): Waterford v Galway, Walsh Park; Cork v Limerick, Páirc Uí Chaoimh; Tipperary v Westmeath, Nenagh. Division 1 (Group B): Kilkenny v Clare, Nowlan Park. Division 2A: Antrim v Meath, Loughgiel, 2.30pm; Mayo v Offaly, Castlebar. Division 2B: Kildare v Roscommon, Newbridge, 12.30; London v Down, Ruislip. Division 3A: Armagh v Louth, Athletic Grounds; Donegal v Monaghan, Letterkenny; Tyrone v Longford, Omagh. Division 3B: Sligo v Leitrim, Markievicz Park.
February 28-29.[h2/]Annual Congress.
February 29. Allianz Football League, Rd 5 (7pm unless stated): Division 1: Mayo v Kerry, Castlebar, 7.15pm; Tyrone v Dublin, Omagh, 7.15pm. Division 2: Laois v Kildare, Portlaoise. Division 4: London v Wicklow, Ruislip, 1pm; Wexford v Sligo, Wexford Park, 2pm; Waterford v Carlow, Dungarvan.
March 1. Allianz Football League, Rd 5 (2pm unless stated): Division 1, Meath v Galway, Navan, 2.30pm; Donegal v Monaghan, Ballyshannon. Division 2: Fermanagh v Armagh, Enniskillen; Roscommon v Westmeath, Dr Hyde Park; Cavan v Clare, Kingspan Breffni, 2.30pm. Division 3: Louth v Leitrim, Drogheda; Cork v Derry, Páirc Uí Chaoimh; Longford v Tipperary, Pearse Park, 2.30pm; Offaly v Down, O’Connor Park, 2.30pm.Division 4: Antrim v Limerick, Glenavy.
Allianz Hurling League, Rd 5: (2pm unless stated): Division 1 (Group A): Galway v Cork, Salthill; Limerick v Westmeath, Gaelic Grounds; Tipperary v Waterford, Semple Stadium. Division 1 (Group B): Clare v Dublin, Ennis; Laois v Kilkenny, Portlaoise; Wexford v Carlow, Wexford Park. Division 2A: Meath v Mayo, Trim, 12.30; Kerry v Antrim, Tralee, 12.30; Offaly v Wicklow, O’Connor Park, 12.30pm. Division 2B: Down v Kildare, Ballycran; Roscommon v Derry, Athleague; Warwickshire v London, Birmingham. Division 3A: Longford v Donegal, Pearse Park, 12.30pm; Monaghan v Louth, Inniskeen, 12.30; Armagh v Tyrone, Athletic Grounds, 12.30pm. Division 3B: Cavan v Sligo, Kingspan Breffni, 12.30; Leitrim v Lancashire, Carrick-on-Shannon, 12.30 pm.
March 7-8. Allianz Hurling League, Division 1 quarter-finals; Allianz Hurling League Finals (2A, 2B, 3A & 3B)
March 14. Allianz Football League, Rd 6 (7pm unless stated): Division 1, Donegal v Tyrone, Ballybofey; Division 2: Armagh v Roscommon, Athletic Grounds, 6.30pm. Division 4: Waterford v London, Dungarvan, 5pm; Carlow v Sligo, Ne*ch Cullen Park.
March 14-15. Allianz Hurling League Division 1 semi-finals.
March 15. Allianz Football League, Rd 6 (2pm): Division 1, Galway v Mayo, Salthill; Dublin v Meath, Croke Park; Monaghan v Kerry, Inniskeen. Division 2: Clare v Fermanagh, Ennis; Westmeath v Laois, Mullingar; Kildare v Cavan, Newbridge. Division 3: Down v Leitrim, Newry; Cork v Louth, Páirc Uí Chaoimh; Derry v Longford, Celtic Park; Tipperary v Offaly, Semple Stadium. Division 4: Wicklow v Antrim, Aughrim; Limerick v Wexford, Rathkeale.
March 17. All-Ireland U20 FC semi-finals, Croke Park: Connacht v Munster, Leinster v Ulster.
March 22. Allianz Hurling League Division 1 Final.
Allianz Football League, Rd 7 (2pm unless stated): Division 1, Kerry v Donegal, Tralee; Galway v Dublin, Salthill; Mayo v Tyrone, Castlebar; Monaghan v Mayo, Clones. Division 2: Cavan v Roscommon, Kingspan Breffni; Clare v Armagh, Ennis; Kildare v Westmeath, Newbridge; Fermanagh v Laois, Enniskillen. Division 3: Longford v v Cork, Pearse Park; Louth v Down, Drogheda; Leitrim v Tipperary, Carrick-on-Shannon; Offaly v Derry, O'Connor Park. Division 4: Antrim v Waterford, Glenavy, 1pm; Wexford v Wicklow, Wexford Park, 1pm; London v Carlow, Ruislip, 1pm; Sligo v Limerick, Markievicz Park, 1pm.
March 28. Allianz Football League Division 3 & 4 Finals, Croke Park; All-Ireland Colleges Hurling finals, Semple Stadium
March 28-29. Eirgrid GAA Football All-Ireland U20 Championship Final.
March 29. Allianz Football League Division 1 & 2 Final, Croke Park.
April 4. Masita GAA All Ireland Colleges PP Schools finals, Croke Park.
April 25. Craobh na hÉireann, Scór Sinsir
CHAMPIONSHIPS May 2. Connacht SFC quarter-final: London v Roscommon.
May 3. Connacht SFC quarter-final: New York v Galway.
May 9. Munster SFC quarter-finals: Waterford v Limerick, Tipperary v Clare.
May 9-10. Leinster SFC Rd 1, Louth v Longford, Wexford v Wicklow, Carlow v Offaly. Joe McDonagh Cup, Rd 1: Antrim v Westmeath, Kerry v Meath. Christy Ring Cup, Rd 1 (Group 1): Offaly v Derry, Sligo v Wicklow; (Group 2): Roscommon v Kildare, Down v London.
May 10. Connacht SFC quarter-final: Mayo v Leitrim. Ulster SFC preliminary rd: Monaghan v Cavan. Leinster SHC Rd 1: Dublin v Kilkenny, Laois v Galway.
Munster SHC Rd 1: Cork v Limerick, Waterford v Tipperary.
May 16. Ulster SFC quarter-final: Derry v Armagh.
May 16-17. Joe McDonagh Cup, Rd 2: Westmeath v Kerry, Carlow v Antrim. Christy Ring Cup, Rd 2 (Group 1): Wicklow v Offaly, Derry v Sligo. (Group 2): London v Roscommon, Kildare v Down.
May 17. Connacht SFC semi-final: New York/Galway v Sligpo; Ulster SFC quarter-final: Donegal v Tyrone; Leinster SHC Rd 2: Kilkenny v Laois, Wexford v Dublin; Munster SHC Rd 2: Limerick v Waterford, Tipperary v Clare.
May 23. Ulster SFC quarter-final: Monaghan/Cavan v Antrim; Leinster SHC Rd 3A: Wexford v Galway.
May 23-24. Leinster SFC quarter-finals: Louth/Longford v Laois; Wexford/Wicklow v Meath; Carlow/Offaly v Kildare. Joe McDonagh Cup Rd 3A: Carlow v Meath.
May 24. Connacht SFC semi-finals: London/Roscommon v Mayo/Leitrim. Munster SFC: Cork v Kerry. Ulster SFC quarter-final: Fermanagh v Down.
May 28-June 1. Comórtas Peile na Gaeltachta.
May 30. Munster SFC semi-final: Waterford/Limerick v Clare/Tipperary.
May 30-31. Ulster SFC semi-finals: Donegal/Tyrone v Derry/Armagh. Joe McDonagh Cup, Rd 3B: Antrim v Kerry. Christy Ring Cup, Rd 3 (Group 1): Offaly v Sligo, Wicklow v Derry. (Group 2): Roscommon v Down, London v Kildare.
May 31. Leinster SHC Rd 3B: Dublin v Laois. Munster SHC Rd 3: Clare v Limerick, Waterford v Cork.
June 5-7. Féile na nGael (Dublin, Kildare, Meath)
June 6. Leinster SHC Rd 4: Laois v Wexford. Munster SHC Rd 4: Limerick v Tipperary.
June 6-7. Joe McDonagh Cup, Rd 4: Kerry v Carlow, Meath v Westmeath.
June 7. Leinster SFC semi-finals (draw after quarter-finals).
Ulster SFC semi-final: Fermanagh/Down v Monaghan/Cavan/Antrim. Leinster SHC Rd 4: Galway v Kilkenny. Munster SHC Rd 4: Cork v Clare.
June 13-14. Leinster SHC Rd 5: Kilkenny v Wexford, Galway v Dublin. Joe McDonagh Cup Rd 5: Westmeath v Carlow, Meath v Antrim. Christy Ring Cup: semi-finals.
June 14. Connacht SFC final. Munster SHC Rd 5: Tipperary v Cork, Clare v Waterford.
June 20. Leinster SFC final, Croke Park.
All-Ireland SFC Tier 1 Preliminary Rd; All-Ireland FC Tier 2 Rd 1.
June 21. Munster SFC final; Ulster SFC final.
June 26-28. Féile na nÓg (Derry, Donegal, Tyrone).
June 27. All-Ireland SFC Rd 1 (Tier 1). All-Ireland FC quarter-finals (Tier 2). Christy Ring, Nicky Rackard Cup and Lory Meagher finals, Croke Park.
June 28. Munster SHC final. Leinster SHC final, Croke Park. Joe McDonagh Cup final, Croke Park.
July 4-5. All-Ireland SFC Tier 1 Round 2; All-Ireland JFC semi-finals: Connacht v Munster, Britain v Leinster. All-Ireland SHC Preliminary quarter-finals (Joe McDonagh Cup winner v 3rd Placed Team Munster, Joe McDonagh runner up v 3rd Placed Team Leinster). Electric Ireland All--Ireland MHC quarter-final Rd 1, Munster Runner-Up v Galway.
July 5. All-Ireland FC Tier 2 semi-finals, Croke Park.
July 11-12. All-Ireland SFC Super 8s (Rd 1). All-Ireland SHC quarter-finals. All-Ireland MHC quarter-final Rd 2: Winner of Rd 1 v Leinster Runner-Up.
July 18-19. All-Ireland SFC Super 8's, rd 2. All-Ireland Tier 2 FC final, Croke Park; All-Ireland JFC final; All-Ireland MHC quarter-final: Loser of Round 1 v Leinster Runner-Up
July 25. All-Ireland SHC semi-final; All-Ireland MHC semi-final.
July 25-26. Electric Ireland All-Ireland MFC quarter-finals. All-Ireland SHC relegation play-off (if required).
July 26. All-Ireland SHC semi-final; All-Ireland MHC semi-final.
August 1-2. All-Ireland SFC Super 8's Rd 3; All-Ireland U20 HC semi-finals: Leinster winner v Munster Runner-Up; Munster winner v Leinster Runner-Up. All-Ireland U20 BHC fnal.
August 8. All-Ireland SFC Tier 1 semi-final; All-Ireland MFC semi-final.
August 9. All-Ireland SFC Tier 1 semi-final; All-Ireland MFC semi-final.
August 16. All-Ireland SHC final, Croke Park (replay Sept 5); All-Ireland MHC final, Croke Park.
August 22-23. Bord Gáis Energy All-Ireland U20 HC final.
August 30. All-Ireland SFC final (replay Sept 12); Electric Ireland All-Ireland MHC final.
September 6. Liberty Insurance All-Ireland Camogie Championship Finals
September 13. TG4 All-Ireland Ladies Football Finals
November 14-15. International Rules Test 1
November 21. International Rules Test 2.
December 5-6. All-Ireland Club IFC semi-finals: Connacht v Leinster, Munster v Ulster; All-Ireland JFC semi-finals: Connacht v Leinster, Munster v Ulster. All-Ireland Club IHC semi-finals: Connacht v Leinster, Munster v Ulster. All-Ireland JHC semi-finals: Connacht v Leinster, Munster v Ulster.
December 12-13. All-Ireland Club SFC semi-finals, Croke Park: Connacht v Leinster, Munster v Ulster. All-Ireland Club SHC semi-finals, Croke Park: Connacht v Leinster, Munster v Ulster.
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Post by glengael on Nov 27, 2019 11:29:15 GMT
In essence there is no closed season in GAA now.
Playing All Ireland Club semi-finals in early days of January is nonsense to me.
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Post by Mickmack on Nov 27, 2019 13:36:44 GMT
16th August for the hurling final.
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Post by Premier on Nov 27, 2019 14:22:07 GMT
In essence there is no closed season in GAA now. Playing All Ireland Club semi-finals in early days of January is nonsense to me. It would be worse to keep persisting with what we have now. Continuing on until March 17th for no reason makes way less sense. At least there’s a bit of continuation by having it in January. The idea that fields would be terrible too doesn’t really stack up either as the fields these games would be played on would be the best in the country
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Post by Mickmack on Nov 27, 2019 15:14:27 GMT
Can an u20 play inter county league games while the inter county u20 chsmpionship is in progress?
I assume so
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Post by glengael on Nov 27, 2019 17:27:10 GMT
Both Dessie Mone and Vinnie Corey have retired from inter-county football for Monaghan. There's a witty comment waiting to be made from that news. I just wish I could be the one to make it.
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Post by givehimaball on Nov 27, 2019 17:32:47 GMT
Can an u20 play inter county league games while the inter county u20 chsmpionship is in progress? I assume so The rule that was in place was about U20s playing championship - there was no issue with an U20 playing league and U20 championship this year. The powers-that-be might put a rule in place about U20s not being allowed playing league yet. Probably something along the lines of until their county has finished up in the U20 championship , no U20 is allowed play any league games.
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Post by kerrygold on Nov 27, 2019 22:17:19 GMT
In essence there is no closed season in GAA now. Playing All Ireland Club semi-finals in early days of January is nonsense to me. Far better than stretching it out to Paddy's Day just for the sake of it.............!
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Post by ballhopper34 on Nov 27, 2019 23:06:52 GMT
The county teams of the Senior club final will also benefit by having the club final in January. Players on the fringe of the starting 15 will be back with the county early and will push the incumbents, if not take their place...not to mention making an early season impression on a new management team.
Dr. Crokes run to the final last year weakened the county panel and cost a few lads valuable experience if nothing else.
Galway might have had a better summer as well if Corofin players were back in early Feb rather than late March.
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Post by sullyschoice on Nov 29, 2019 17:14:40 GMT
Not sure I like the new jersey
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Nov 29, 2019 18:16:45 GMT
Not sure I like the new jersey It's horrendous. From arguably the nicest ever to a Meath jersey. Cat melodeon.
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Post by southward on Nov 29, 2019 18:48:35 GMT
Not sure I like the new jersey Noooooo!
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Post by decondd2 on Nov 29, 2019 20:32:50 GMT
I wonder could we petition the county board to change the sleeves to green. It might save the jersey.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2019 20:49:11 GMT
This years jersey was very nice so a hard act to follow. However this effort is quite poor imo.
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Post by ballhopper34 on Nov 29, 2019 22:42:01 GMT
The Moran’s of Dingle West Kerry Senior Football Championship Final will see holders Dingle play An Ghaeltacht in Páirc an Ághasaigh, Dingle this Sunday 1st December at 2.30pm.
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Post by southward on Nov 30, 2019 0:34:09 GMT
This years jersey was very nice so a hard act to follow. However this effort is quite poor imo. Why have to follow it at all? It was a great jersey, why not leave it alone?
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Post by Mickmack on Nov 30, 2019 12:03:23 GMT
Referee David Gough responds to Eamonn Fitzmaurice’s All-Ireland final controversy
By Larry Ryan Follow @ryanlarry Saturday, November 30, 2019 - 08:55 AM All-Ireland final referee David Gough has responded to the controversy generated by the Irish Examiner GAA Podcast, on which former Kerry manager Eamonn Fitzmaurice insisted Gough shouldn’t be selected to ref that final.
And Gough dismisses the theory there was anything “sinister” in Fitzmaurice’s comments, which came in a response to a question posed by fellow Kerryman Mike Quirke.
Meath man Gough lives and works in Dublin and Fitzmaurice suggested it would be unfair if he was appointed to the Kerry v Dublin clash. Gough had made a number of errors when the sides previously clashed in the 2016 All-Ireland semi-final.
“I think it’s an injustice if he does get the game,” said Fitzmaurice. “I am not going to be dictating here who I feel should get the game, but a final referee has to be a neutral referee.
"Living and working in Dublin, you are not neutral. If you are living there, you are meeting people in the shop, at work, down the street.
“Of course when David Gough goes out to referee a match he is trying to be neutral and impartial, I am not questioning that, but it can’t be fair that if you are living and working in a place, that you get to referee an All-Ireland final involving that county.”
READ MORE Eamonn Fitzmaurice: Why David Gough shouldn't referee Dublin-Kerry final Speaking in an interview with the Irish Independent, Gough says he has listened to the podcast and concluded that the remarks had been blown out of proportion.
"He gave his honest opinion, I don't think there was anything sinister in it, but it was a quiet week in the media, Kerry/Dublin camps were very quiet and it was much easier to talk about the referee who hadn't been appointed. I understand that."
Gough says he broke down in tears when word arrived he had been appointed to the decider.
“I was in Slane at the time, only myself and my grandmother at home. All my umpires were abroad on a family holiday, the two us of in the living room sobbing away, relief," he recalled.
After that, it didn't really matter what was in the media. I had got what I wanted for so long.
Before the final, it had been pointed out that Gough and Dublin defender Jonny Cooper both worked for DCU, deepening his familiarity with Dublin players. As it turned out Gough was forced to dismiss Cooper in the drawn final.
Referee David Gough responds to Eamonn Fitzmaurice’s All-Ireland final controversy
"When I had to issue a second yellow card to Jonny, what people don't realise is that he and I work in the same university. I work in Drumcondra, he works in Glasnevin (as a recruitment officer). In three years I think we have seen each other twice, we have probably passed each other those two times and said hello, but we have never had a conversation as such.
"There would be huge respect there and the decision was made. My mind was made up the second the foul was committed that it was a yellow card, the yellow and red were produced before any players had time to come in and influence my decision. It all played out exactly on the field how I had visualised it before."
Interestingly, Gough admits he almost made a pivotal mistake in the drawn game’s final moments. With Dean Rock lining up a potentially match-winning free, Kerry’s Tommy Walsh asked him if a free would be awarded were Walsh to lift teammate David Moran in an attempt to block the kick. Gough admits neither he nor linesman Conor Lane knew the correct response, so gave the go ahead for the move. But he now says that would have been a mistake.
"It would have been an interesting end to an All-Ireland final had a five-in-a-row been stopped by a rugby-style lift on the goal line which I would not have blown as a free.
Referee David Gough responds to Eamonn Fitzmaurice’s All-Ireland final controversy
"Interestingly, because it would be deemed a technical foul, it's not a foul on the player, it would have resulted in a penalty because it was inside the small parallelogram and that would have been the other decision I would have had to make."
Gough, an openly gay man, says he has never suffered homophobic abuse from a player, but has experienced it from supporters.
"I heard it from the stands. It certainty hasn't happened on the pitch, the players have way too much respect as I have for them," he said,
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