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Post by sullyschoice on Mar 23, 2024 19:03:58 GMT
Can we start a petition to stop people singing the National Anthem before games. What did I just witness before the Kildare V Louth game.
Just play the tune and let the crowd sing if they want to.
Rant over
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Post by thehermit on Mar 23, 2024 19:41:03 GMT
Turned over to the Brazil game the minute I got whiff of it
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Post by horsebox77 on Mar 24, 2024 13:41:12 GMT
Tg4 are showing every other provider how to do it, one game live, cameras and commentators in every other venue with update as the games unfold.
That's the way big gaa days should be broadcasted.
Hats off again TG4... well done
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Post by highballinlowhy on Mar 25, 2024 15:43:15 GMT
Éamonn Fitzmaurice: Time to play the provincials in February If they were played as the first games of a new season in mid February I feel there would be bigger crowds present and much more interest and excitement than during the limbo that they are in at the moment in the month of April. Éamonn Fitzmaurice: Time to play the provincials in February YELLOW PERIL: Armagh manager Kieran McGeeney is shown a yellow card by referee Brendan Griffin at SuperValu Páirc Ui Chaoimh. Pic: Brendan Moran/Sportsfile MON, 25 MAR, 2024 - 07:29 ÉAMONN FITZMAURICE, TALKING POINTS Armagh coming Last season on the last day Armagh travelled to near neighbours and arch rivals Tyrone needing a win to avoid relegation. They lost by two. I saw them a couple of times during the course of that league and my sense was that they had regressed from 2022. They had tempered their approach and moved to a more defensive counter-attack style, that in my opinion didn’t suit them. Having said that they were seriously unlucky in the following championship, losing both the Ulster final and the All-Ireland quarter-final on penalties. This compounded the disappointment of their 2022 championship exit at the hands of eventual All-Ireland finalists Galway, also incredibly on penalties. Their reaction to these setbacks this spring has been seriously impressive. They have tweaked their style of football again and are back playing a style that suits their personnel. Once more they are going after teams. They are pressing high initially, often with success, but also have the ability to retreat back into shape quickly if they don’t force an early turnover. This is especially true on opposition kickouts. They are kicking plenty of ball in general but in quick counter-attacks in particular. Rather than getting everyone behind the ball they are looking to keep a couple of players forward as much as possible. Interestingly they have been without two of their key players during most of the league. Rian O’Neill (now returned) and the still absent Ethan Rafferty. O’Neill is an excellent player but was trying to be everything to everyone last season. He was inside, then outside as a kickout option, trying to link play and also trying to finish. I feel he would benefit from being given a defined role and allow him thrive in that capacity. Similarly Rafferty is the ultimate fly keeper. His range of passing and scoring is superb. However everything was going through him. Read More The Allianz Gaelic Football Show: the winners and losers after final day of the league Sport Top Pics It made Armagh predictable. Without him this year outfield players have taken on this mantle. Aidan Forker and in particular in the recent games Greg McCabe has become very important in this role. Often he is the player kicking the final ball into the attacking third, particularly against a set defence. Also Blaine Hughes has been doing very well on the more traditional goalkeeping duties. They only conceded two goals throughout the course of the league, both scored by Cork on Saturday night. This suggests they have that enviable balance right. The emergence of Oisín Conaty has also been a big positive for them. Last year in Division 1 they scored 95 and conceded 98 points. This time round they have scored 132 (including nine goals) and have only conceded 86 points. Whether their gameplan will stand up to the real big boys we will only learn in time. For now next weekend against Donegal in Croke Park is a great place to start. Win that and they will face into the Ulster championship in rude health and with restored winning confidence. Kerry’s midfield Prior to the start of the league much of the discussion in Kerry was around the number eight and nine jerseys. David Moran is a year retired but his absence was still being felt and discussed and the under appreciated Jack Barry is on a sabbatical. Yesterday in Killarney both Joe O’Connor and Barry O’Sullivan did their claims for those starting jerseys no harm. O’Connor gave an all action display, both offensively and defensively. His ability to drive forward is a powerful weapon. He is excellent at coming onto the ball at full throttle at just the right time, possibly from his rugby background. He is also a ferocious worker and forced some great turnovers that led to scores. Crucially he also fetched well. Similarly O’Sullivan worked unbelievably hard. He is a great disruptor. He won kickouts, breaks and tackled relentlessly, again forcing key turnovers. He is also good on the ball and is willing to kick the ball through the middle third of the field. For the second week in a row this partnership worked very well, with the balance and chemistry of the pair looking good. Diarmuid O’Connor is out injured at the moment and will start come championship. He is comfortable in the half forward line also though as is Joe O’Connor. The importance of a finishing midfielder will also come into discussions but with this trio going well Kerry will be strong in the middle of the park. Maybe stronger than a lot of people thought at the start of the league. In terms of thickening out his panel Jack O’Connor has got invaluable game time and experience into Cillian Burke, Seán O’Brien, Darragh Roche, Dylan Geaney, Armin Heinrich and Keith Evans. Getting minutes into Paul Geaney, Stephen O’Brien and Brian Ó Beaglaoich will also have pleased Jack and co yesterday. As they jet off to sunnier climes for their pre-championship camp this week Kerry will be content. There is work to be done and some players are yet to reach the heights they can. Bit by bit they are getting there though. In terms of timing an assault on the championship in general and The Dubs in particular they are in a good place. Westmeaths’s gruelling schedule Westmeath are promoted back to Division 2, a year later than I would have expected. They are a real footballing team, as they showed when they won the Tailteann Cup in 2022 and in the manner they competed in the group stages of the All-Ireland last year. Their reward for winning promotion is an unforgiving schedule in the short term. They are in the middle of a five-week block of games, culminating most likely with a Leinster semi-final clash with Kildare to get into a Leinster Final and guarantee themselves Sam Maguire football. They are out next week in the Division 3 league final against Down, the following weekend against Wicklow in the Leinster championship, and should they win that as expected their encounter with the Lilywhites awaits a week later. It further emphasises that the calendar has become too packed. We need at least one weekend off and preferably two between the conclusion of the league and the start of championship. Personally, I would avoid getting rid of the league finals if at all possible. It is always great to get a day out in Croke Park for all teams with a chance to win national silverware. I would venture for some teams it will be their only chance to get their hands on a cup. That weekend is a special weekend in Croke Park with all four finals taking place over the two days and would be a loss if it was gone. The obvious way is to stretch the season into August but failing that we could eliminate the preliminary quarter finals in the All-Ireland series. That buys back one precious weekend. I also feel we should get rid of the preseason competitions and play the provincial championships prior to the start of the league. I have heard arguments that this will devalue them. I disagree. I think because of the setup of the season currently they are devalued as it is. If they were played as the first games of a new season in mid February I feel there would be bigger crowds present and much more interest and excitement than during the limbo that they are in at the moment in the month of April. It would also have the value of knowing the teams that have reached the provincial finals and are seeded for the All-Ireland series before the league starts. The teams at the bottom of Division 2 and top of Division 3 would know exactly where they stand and what they would have to do to get into Sam Maguire. I can’t see this happening in the short term but we have to find a way to place some separation between the league and championship, principally for the sake of the integrity of the league.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Mar 25, 2024 16:45:45 GMT
Has the GAA ever considered running competitions concurrently?
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Post by thehermit on Mar 25, 2024 19:36:26 GMT
Has the GAA ever considered running competitions concurrently? You mean like the League and Provincials?
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Mar 26, 2024 6:23:44 GMT
Has the GAA ever considered running competitions concurrently? You mean like the League and Provincials? And possibly championship too.
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Post by thehermit on Mar 26, 2024 10:58:54 GMT
Well I wonder how that might work with managers already wringing their wrists about too many games in too few weeks? Our Ulster friends might not be impressed if you expected them to be playing in that provincial dogfight one weekend and then say competing to survive in Divison 1 the next.
Might it not also undermine the AI itself, I mean if every weekend you're chopping from one competition to the next? Kerry playing say Mayo in D1 one Saturday night the following Sunday there in an AI group stage against Galway?
Its not that I'm totally against the concept I think you'd just need to think very hard about how it might work before you tried to sell it to supporters.
I'm a traditionalist at heart and would always want to see the provincials maintained someway. My rationale is simple - why would you eliminate four cups and the chance for county's to win them which are more realistic for most than winning an AI title or even a Division 1 title.
But its clear even this early into the split season experiment that the inter-county calendar needs more tinkering. The League is being totally devalued by teams having to be out a week or two after in their province.
Can't see what's wrong at all with moving the AI finals to mid-Aug, and having 2-4 week gap between League and champioship.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Mar 26, 2024 11:08:53 GMT
Well I wonder how that might work with managers already wringing their wrists about too many games in too few weeks? Our Ulster friends might not be impressed if you expected them to be playing in that provincial dogfight one weekend and then say competing to survive in Divison 1 the next. Might it not also undermine the AI itself, I mean if every weekend you're chopping from one competition to the next? Kerry playing say Mayo in D1 one Saturday night the following Sunday there in an AI group stage against Galway? Its not that I'm totally against the concept I think you'd just need to think very hard about how it might work before you tried to sell it to supporters. I'm a traditionalist at heart and would always want to see the provincials maintained someway. My rationale is simple - why would you eliminate four cups and the chance for county's to win them which are more realistic for most than winning an AI title or even a Division 1 title. But its clear even this early into the split season experiment that the inter-county calendar needs more tinkering. The League is being totally devalued by teams having to be out a week or two after in their province. Can't see what's wrong at all with moving the AI finals to mid-Aug, and having 2-4 week gap between League and champioship. Other sports (shudder) do manage it. It doesn't require any extra games. In fact, you could possibly cut games because there would be less need for a league element of the championship.
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Post by thehermit on Mar 26, 2024 11:33:21 GMT
Well I wonder how that might work with managers already wringing their wrists about too many games in too few weeks? Our Ulster friends might not be impressed if you expected them to be playing in that provincial dogfight one weekend and then say competing to survive in Divison 1 the next. Might it not also undermine the AI itself, I mean if every weekend you're chopping from one competition to the next? Kerry playing say Mayo in D1 one Saturday night the following Sunday there in an AI group stage against Galway? Its not that I'm totally against the concept I think you'd just need to think very hard about how it might work before you tried to sell it to supporters. I'm a traditionalist at heart and would always want to see the provincials maintained someway. My rationale is simple - why would you eliminate four cups and the chance for county's to win them which are more realistic for most than winning an AI title or even a Division 1 title. But its clear even this early into the split season experiment that the inter-county calendar needs more tinkering. The League is being totally devalued by teams having to be out a week or two after in their province. Can't see what's wrong at all with moving the AI finals to mid-Aug, and having 2-4 week gap between League and champioship. Other sports (shudder) do manage it. It doesn't require any extra games. In fact, you could possibly cut games because there would be less need for a league element of the championship. The other factor you'd have to consider in this is that your inter-county game is the big show in town, the club game does not have much appeal outside an individual county bounds. So is having less games the right thing? Maybe if there were a little less but a lot more competitive high quality. Then again given what they've done with Dublin you'd wonder how long interest in the inter-county game will last, I know a good few GAA supporters, a few even from Kerry, that these days are beginning to tune out given Dublin's revival and the prospect now of a never ending dominance. As I said if your going to radically restructure the inter-county season these things need to be, for once, well thought out. Do you split Dublin into 4 or 6 for example and honestly what long-term alternative is there to that given money, demographics etc? Do you try and amalgamate some counties - do you end up having an inter-county game more like our own county championship with amalgamated counties being analogous to our divisional sides? I'm probably straying a bit from what you're musing Annascual but IMO radical surgery of inter-county competition calendar would probably necessitate radical surgery of the inter county scene itself.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Mar 26, 2024 19:05:23 GMT
Well I wonder how that might work with managers already wringing their wrists about too many games in too few weeks? Our Ulster friends might not be impressed if you expected them to be playing in that provincial dogfight one weekend and then say competing to survive in Divison 1 the next. Might it not also undermine the AI itself, I mean if every weekend you're chopping from one competition to the next? Kerry playing say Mayo in D1 one Saturday night the following Sunday there in an AI group stage against Galway? Its not that I'm totally against the concept I think you'd just need to think very hard about how it might work before you tried to sell it to supporters. I'm a traditionalist at heart and would always want to see the provincials maintained someway. My rationale is simple - why would you eliminate four cups and the chance for county's to win them which are more realistic for most than winning an AI title or even a Division 1 title. But its clear even this early into the split season experiment that the inter-county calendar needs more tinkering. The League is being totally devalued by teams having to be out a week or two after in their province. Can't see what's wrong at all with moving the AI finals to mid-Aug, and having 2-4 week gap between League and champioship. Agree with you Saint Flann - GAA is all about the tribe and the closest you wanna beat the mostest, and the most often! Thurles, Fitzgerald Stadium, Clones, Cashellbear, etc - best of all the win in Rebel territory! And yes, there is a way to counter the reality that many get knocked out in the first game - simply have a number of AI competitions, Sam + 3 wit the 3 levels determine by the stage a team is knocked out in a given year - it's as simple as that!
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Post by thehermit on Mar 27, 2024 15:18:55 GMT
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Post by playitfair on Mar 27, 2024 15:49:53 GMT
You mean like the League and Provincials? And possibly championship too. They certainly did it for the hurling in the mid-90's. I recall being at a Tipperary league match in June back then.
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Post by horsebox77 on Mar 27, 2024 16:22:54 GMT
Ah hermit, this ship.has sailed and docked on foreign shores. I think we have to draw a line under Mark and file under one that got away. The county board really must ring fence such talent and even though non-professional, 'sponsor' to.keep at hone. Job, reduced mortgage rate etc Pity as he was an unique talent. Prob the missing link from 2018 to present day in the middle of the park. Def would have been the difference in 2019, 2021 and last year... But .. that's immaterial now... Park and look ahead
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Post by royalkerryfan on Mar 27, 2024 18:51:42 GMT
Ah hermit, this ship.has sailed and docked on foreign shores. I think we have to draw a line under Mark and file under one that got away. The county board really must ring fence such talent and even though non-professional, 'sponsor' to.keep at hone. Job, reduced mortgage rate etc Pity as he was an unique talent. Prob the missing link from 2018 to present day in the middle of the park. Def would have been the difference in 2019, 2021 and last year... But .. that's immaterial now... Park and look ahead I was listening to Sean O Sullivan recently and he talked about how much work Kennelly done to just get back playing at a intercounty level. Has Mark stood out for Dingle when he's come back ? I don't think so. I'm sure he'll want to play for Kerry before he retires but he'll need a huge amount of work and you'd hope Kerry would have learnt from how we handled Tommy Walshs return.
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Post by horsebox77 on Mar 27, 2024 19:50:31 GMT
Ya I heard him on Adam Moynihans podcast.. Sean is good, but Barry John is winging it and only a fraction as insightful as the Cromane man. If Adam subbed out thr Narrie it would be a far better podcast
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Post by royalkerryfan on Mar 27, 2024 20:17:09 GMT
Ya I heard him on Adam Moynihans podcast.. Sean is good, but Barry John is winging it and only a fraction as insightful as the Cromane man. If Adam subbed out thr Narrie it would be a far better podcast Couldn't agree more Horse, Not a fan of his contributions. The two boys Adam and Sean would be enough with the odd guest occasionally.
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Post by Corner Back on Mar 27, 2024 20:20:51 GMT
Does anyone else find the fixtures on Kerry GAA website poor? For example only one fixture showing for Division 3 this weekend
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Post by clarinman on Mar 27, 2024 21:05:00 GMT
Does anyone else find the fixtures on Kerry GAA website poor? For example only one fixture showing for Division 3 this weekend It's absolutely useless. Last weekend the only division one fixture shown was Spa Crokes. You're better off looking at the Kerry GAA twitter feed.
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Post by thehermit on Mar 27, 2024 21:53:15 GMT
Does anyone else find the fixtures on Kerry GAA website poor? For example only one fixture showing for Division 3 this weekend Its woeful as is GAA.ie for same - criminal. Anytime I want to find what main games are on in a given week I'd go here: hoganstand.com/Fixtures/
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Post by Control8 on Mar 27, 2024 22:05:55 GMT
Does anyone else find the fixtures on Kerry GAA website poor? For example only one fixture showing for Division 3 this weekend Its woeful as is GAA.ie for same - criminal. Anytime I want to find what main games are on in a given week I'd go here: hoganstand.com/Fixtures/And for Results:
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Mar 30, 2024 20:45:54 GMT
I just watched a Westmeath wing back kick a 45. Apart from goalkeepers, why don't we see more backs hitting frees?
I think I remember Eamon Fitzmaurice doing it for Finugue but he might have been playing 11 for them idk
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Post by sullyschoice on Mar 30, 2024 21:04:22 GMT
I thought that was a very enjoyable game
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Post by jerryewe on Mar 30, 2024 21:54:10 GMT
I just watched a Westmeath wing back kick a 45. Apart from goalkeepers, why don't we see more backs hitting frees? I think I remember Eamon Fitzmaurice doing it for Finugue but he might have been playing 11 for them idk Generally the better, most accurate kickers would be forwards so a very rare thing. I think Aaron Kernan used take some frees for Armagh. I also remember a lot of the reaction when Cluxton started taking frees for Dublin “how come their forwards can’t take frees?” Was a common reaction in stands and by some “pundits”
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Mar 31, 2024 5:15:39 GMT
I just watched a Westmeath wing back kick a 45. Apart from goalkeepers, why don't we see more backs hitting frees? I think I remember Eamon Fitzmaurice doing it for Finugue but he might have been playing 11 for them idk Generally the better, most accurate kickers would be forwards so a very rare thing. I think Aaron Kernan used take some frees for Armagh. I also remember a lot of the reaction when Cluxton started taking frees for Dublin “how come their forwards can’t take frees?” Was a common reaction in stands and by some “pundits” I am gone mad for referencing other sports, but once upon a time not so long ago in another sport it wasn't rare at all for a defender to kick a free off rge ground.
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Post by horsebox77 on Mar 31, 2024 8:52:28 GMT
I just watched a Westmeath wing back kick a 45. Apart from goalkeepers, why don't we see more backs hitting frees? I think I remember Eamon Fitzmaurice doing it for Finugue but he might have been playing 11 for them idk Generally the better, most accurate kickers would be forwards so a very rare thing. I think Aaron Kernan used take some frees for Armagh. I also remember a lot of the reaction when Cluxton started taking frees for Dublin “how come their forwards can’t take frees?” Was a common reaction in stands and by some “pundits” At U15's and Minor club level, a fair few centre backs take them, but at that age level, that is the key position and the more physical and football brained player would hold the number 6 jersey
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Post by horsebox77 on Apr 1, 2024 11:13:18 GMT
Do we know did the likes of Brosnan, Breen, O’Beagleoich, Diarmuid etc. Line out with their clubs at weekend,
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Post by chicago09 on Apr 1, 2024 16:46:55 GMT
Diarmuid didn’t play is all I know saw picture of B o beaglaioch in shorts at the airport I think and whatever he was wearing he had his legs covered up to his knees and had a special socks or something from his ankles up covering his calves.
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Post by mainevalley on Apr 1, 2024 20:18:13 GMT
Diarmuid didn’t play is all I know saw picture of B o beaglaioch in shorts at the airport I think and whatever he was wearing he had his legs covered up to his knees and had a special socks or something from his ankles up covering his calves. I'd say they are compression stockings for the flight! Not many fringe players played for there clubs. Don't know why not. Maybe afraid of training load for weeks ahead
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Apr 2, 2024 7:58:13 GMT
I think that ends Derry as serious AI challengers. A Derry with Harte at the helm would not play as fearlessly as they did against Kerry. I am very rarely right, but I am sure of this being right in the same way I was sure Cluxton coming back was a very bad sign of what was to come. Well, so far, as usual, I am exactly wrong. Derry are being very attacking. The only thing I believe I am consistently right on, and it is a tautology to be fair, is over-defenensive play is losing play.
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