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Post by ballhopper34 on Apr 25, 2019 0:47:53 GMT
The added pressure of being captain in 2018 has to be reconciled with Shane Murphy as well. To miss the entire league was unfortunate as well...
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Post by Mickmack on Apr 25, 2019 7:29:37 GMT
in 2018 the na Piarsaigh club players found that things had moved on without them while they were trying to All Ireland. The likes of Shane Dowling ended up being an impact sub. I know its different for goalies.
The sooner to moved the club final to December or January, the better.
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Post by glengael on Apr 25, 2019 8:52:26 GMT
Did the Crokes actually nominate a captain ? Who is left with Murphy gone and Gavin White injured? Micheal Burns? Does Paul Murphy simply continue as before?
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Post by crokes86 on Apr 25, 2019 13:31:56 GMT
There’s a lot of demands nowadays playing with the County. I’m surprised more don’t walk to be honest.
He had a long year and it takes a lot of time away from family kids and your social life. He was probably going to sit in the bench anyway. He’ll probably play away with the Crokes.
I don’t rate Kelly . I think Gary Kissane would be a better option there.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2019 14:21:08 GMT
There’s a lot of demands nowadays playing with the County. I’m surprised more don’t walk to be honest. He had a long year and it takes a lot of time away from family kids and your social life. He was probably going to sit in the bench anyway. He’ll probably play away with the Crokes. I don’t rate Kelly . I think Gary Kissane would be a better option there. Gary Kissane?!! You're kidding me. His kickouts barely get past the 45 in some games I have seen him play. There is a young up and coming keeper in Rahillys - Foley perhaps? Hears he will be the Rahillys number 1 in the very near future once he has gained sufficient experience.
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Post by hellofellows on Apr 25, 2019 14:31:28 GMT
Surely Sean Og O Ciardubhain is worth a go? Age shouldn't be a barrier for a goalkeeper, he's consistently playing great stuff, his kickouts are exceptional and ha has a couple of All Ireland junior medals in his back pocket...
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Post by greenmen55 on Apr 25, 2019 15:04:14 GMT
Surely Sean Og O Ciardubhain is worth a go? Age shouldn't be a barrier for a goalkeeper, he's consistently playing great stuff, his kickouts are exceptional and ha has a couple of All Ireland junior medals in his back pocket... I completely agree Seán Og O Ciardubhain is an outstanding goalkeeper and performs brilliantly on a consistent level. At the moment he should definitely be an option his kick outs are fantastic and he is a very good shot stopper also As regards to Gary Kissane... I think it would be a very strange call to bring him into the panel he has struggled in almost every game I have seen him play and is prone to a mistake or two a game. It won’t be long before young Shane Foley takes his place in the Rahillys goal but although being a very decent young keeper he is also not at the county standard I have watched him play all the way up with Rahillys and his school team the green and he has put in some fine performances but is also prone to a mistake albeit not as often as kissane. Foley is sure to be a very good club keeper in Kerry for years to come but I think that is as far as he will go. In the near future anyway
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Post by crokes86 on Apr 25, 2019 17:09:40 GMT
Well Kelly has been around a long time now without making of keeping the spot his own. He’s as inconsistent as much if not more than anyone else mentioned. I have seen him make a lot of mistakes for Legion also.
We need to find another keeper.
Center Back is another big problem and stopping the run from deep . Winning Midfield and braking ball too around the middle . Too many issues to win it. Unless they can fix them.
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Post by pillar on Apr 25, 2019 18:17:25 GMT
Well Kelly has been around a long time now without making of keeping the spot his own. He’s as inconsistent as much if not more than anyone else mentioned. I have seen him make a lot of mistakes for Legion also. We need to find another keeper. Center Back is another big problem and stopping the run from deep . Winning Midfield and braking ball too around the middle . Too many issues to win it. Unless they can fix them. I thought,giving your username,youd be more of a black and amber man than going to Legion matches
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Apr 26, 2019 10:00:30 GMT
If they are bringing in another goalkeeper, it will be a young goalkeeper. They won't bring in someone 30 plus years of age like the goalkeepers that have been mentioned above. The best young goalkeeper in the county is probably Marc Kelliher of Glenflesk. He was very impressive for the minors last year and should be in goals for the u20s this year. He is a fantastic shot stopper, is at least 6 foot 4 and his kick outs are good and they can be improved yet as he is so young. But we will probably have Shane Ryan in goals for the championship so you'd be hoping he does well and will be our goalkeeper for the next 10 plus years. Shane is very talented and I think he has the potential to be someday, the best goalkeeper in the country. A bit of continuity would really be welcome in the goalkeeping position, we haven't had it for years!
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Post by onlykerry on Apr 26, 2019 12:55:03 GMT
Bearing in mind the "problem positions" being discussed would anybody care to suggest a best of the rest team (non intercounty players) from the club championships.
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Post by crokes86 on Apr 26, 2019 13:53:03 GMT
I agree Marc Kelleher is a fine keeper
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Apr 26, 2019 14:23:47 GMT
Bearing in mind the "problem positions" being discussed would anybody care to suggest a best of the rest team (non intercounty players) from the club championships. Some players who have impressed me are Roibeard O'Sé (An Ghaeltacht), Barry Mahony (St Senans), Greg Horan (Austin Stacks) and Eddie Horan (Scartaglen).
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Apr 26, 2019 15:56:19 GMT
The Churchill goalie was the UCC senior keeper prior to gettin an injury and was also the kerry under 21 keeper previously (as far as i remember). Surely he would be in with a shot compared to some of the, frankly, ludicrous suggestions above
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Post by greenmen55 on Apr 26, 2019 16:10:02 GMT
The Churchill goalie was the UCC senior keeper prior to gettin an injury and was also the kerry under 21 keeper previously (as far as i remember). Surely he would be in with a shot compared to some of the, frankly, ludicrous suggestions above Who would you consider to be ludicrous Seán Og O Ciardubhain very decent shout in my eyes. Marc Kelleher although being very young at the moment I wouldn’t say it is a ludicrous shout and can see him being involved in the senior panel in the coming years. Of course he won’t be in there this year being just out of minor but there is a great chance of him going onto being at least no 2 or fighting for the no 1 position in the next 3 to 4 years
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Post by taibhse on Apr 26, 2019 16:24:09 GMT
There are two new football Referees for 2019 - Brendan Cawley of Kildare and James Mooney from Galway being promoted. Missing from last year’s panel are Pádraig Hughes (Armagh) and Cormac Reilly (Meath).
Not surprisingly, none of our whistlers deemed good enough once again. In fact, there are only two from Munster.
Ciaran Branagan (Down), Barry Cassidy (Derry), Brendan Cawley (Kildare), David Coldrick (Meath), Niall Cullen (Fermanagh), Maurice Deegan (Laois), David Gough (Meath), Jerome Henry (Mayo), Sean Hurson (Tyrone), Fergal Kelly (Longford), Conor Lane (Cork), Martin McNally (Monaghan), Joe McQuillan (Cavan), James Molloy (Galway), Noel Mooney (Cavan), Paddy Neilan (Roscommon), Anthony Nolan (Wicklow), Derek O'Mahoney (Tipperary).
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Apr 26, 2019 16:47:51 GMT
The Churchill goalie was the UCC senior keeper prior to gettin an injury and was also the kerry under 21 keeper previously (as far as i remember). Surely he would be in with a shot compared to some of the, frankly, ludicrous suggestions above Who would you consider to be ludicrous Seán Og O Ciardubhain very decent shout in my eyes. Marc Kelleher although being very young at the moment I wouldn’t say it is a ludicrous shout and can see him being involved in the senior panel in the coming years. Of course he won’t be in there this year being just out of minor but there is a great chance of him going onto being at least no 2 or fighting for the no 1 position in the next 3 to 4 years The only ludicrous shout was Gary Kissane. He is a below average club keeper and is retiring soon. Brian Kelly is an adequate number 2 for now.
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Post by greenmen55 on Apr 26, 2019 17:32:00 GMT
Who would you consider to be ludicrous Seán Og O Ciardubhain very decent shout in my eyes. Marc Kelleher although being very young at the moment I wouldn’t say it is a ludicrous shout and can see him being involved in the senior panel in the coming years. Of course he won’t be in there this year being just out of minor but there is a great chance of him going onto being at least no 2 or fighting for the no 1 position in the next 3 to 4 years The only ludicrous shout was Gary Kissane. He is a below average club keeper and is retiring soon. Brian Kelly is an adequate number 2 for now. I agree totally that kissane is far from good enough. I would question however if Kelly is also good enough considering Murphy’s departure from the panel.. in my view Murphy should at least be number 2 for Kerry if not fighting tooth and nail for number 1 but either way we need to stick with one keeper now and stop the switching as it is damaging the progression and confidence of the number 1 keeper in the long run whether that being Kelly or Ryan.
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Apr 26, 2019 20:24:05 GMT
The Churchill goalie was the UCC senior keeper prior to gettin an injury and was also the kerry under 21 keeper previously (as far as i remember). Surely he would be in with a shot compared to some of the, frankly, ludicrous suggestions above Who would you consider to be ludicrous Seán Og O Ciardubhain very decent shout in my eyes. Marc Kelleher although being very young at the moment I wouldn’t say it is a ludicrous shout and can see him being involved in the senior panel in the coming years. Of course he won’t be in there this year being just out of minor but there is a great chance of him going onto being at least no 2 or fighting for the no 1 position in the next 3 to 4 years Sean Og and Gary are ludicrous suggestions- neither are anywhere near that standard. Sean Og is 34 this year and Gary is 32 so it’s not like they are going to improve with the training either Shane Ryan & Murphy are on a different planet to the 2 mentioned
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Post by taibhse on Apr 27, 2019 14:21:44 GMT
Somebody asked if there were any club players who showed any potential in the club games over the past few weeks.
I have seen a good few games in the different divisions and one man who impressed me once again is Liam Kearney of Spa, who has delivered two or three very impressive performances for his club. He has been bedeviled with injury practically all his playing career but it may be that he has finally put that behind him.
I really think that if he was able to endure the serious training that is necessary at the top level that he has the physique and mobility and is potentially a very capable midfielder.
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Post by pillar on Apr 28, 2019 7:17:11 GMT
Somebody asked if there were any club players who showed any potential in the club games over the past few weeks. I have seen a good few games in the different divisions and one man who impressed me once again is Liam Kearney of Spa, who has delivered two or three very impressive performances for his club. He has been bedeviled with injury practically all his playing career but it may be that he has finally put that behind him. I really think that if he was able to endure the serious training that is necessary at the top level that he has the physique and mobility and is potentially a very capable midfielder. From what I'm hearing hes in there training
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Post by yellowbelly on Apr 30, 2019 11:32:01 GMT
Hearing there are a few new players brought into the panel post Club Championship and also some being moved on from the panel. Plus some injuries. Gavin White out for two months with dislocated elbow and Peter Crowley was stretchered off for Laune Rangers with suspected dislocated knee.
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Post by greenmen55 on Apr 30, 2019 12:33:36 GMT
Hearing there are a few new players brought into the panel post Club Championship and also some being moved on from the panel. Plus some injuries. Gavin White out for two months with dislocated elbow and Peter Crowley was stretchered off for Laune Rangers with suspected dislocated knee. Any names. Heard around Tralee during the week that Gavin O Brien is no longer part of the panel I don’t know how true this is. Fairly surprising if it is true as he was a decent option and performed ok during the league.
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Post by greengold35 on Apr 30, 2019 12:43:00 GMT
Hearing there are a few new players brought into the panel post Club Championship and also some being moved on from the panel. Plus some injuries. Gavin White out for two months with dislocated elbow and Peter Crowley was stretchered off for Laune Rangers with suspected dislocated knee. Any names. Heard around Tralee during the week that Gavin O Brien is no longer part of the panel I don’t know how true this is. Fairly surprising if it is true as he was a decent option and performed ok during the league. Liam Kearney ( already mentioned) plus Danny Sheahan ( Legion) and Daniel O'Brien ( Glenflesk) have been added to the training panel - heard also about Gavin O'Brien being left go but not sure how accurate this is.
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Post by crokes86 on Apr 30, 2019 13:50:21 GMT
Kearney is good enough no doubt about it. If he can stay healthy definitely will make it Midfield. Daniel O’Brien good Back. Don’t think Sheehan is good enough.
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Apr 30, 2019 16:30:53 GMT
Is Mush not injured at the moment?
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Post by givehimaball on Apr 30, 2019 17:46:10 GMT
Hearing there are a few new players brought into the panel post Club Championship and also some being moved on from the panel. Plus some injuries. Gavin White out for two months with dislocated elbow and Peter Crowley was stretchered off for Laune Rangers with suspected dislocated knee. Any names. Heard around Tralee during the week that Gavin O Brien is no longer part of the panel I don’t know how true this is. Fairly surprising if it is true as he was a decent option and performed ok during the league. I heard Gavin O'Brien was dropped from the panel for lining out with his club against the wishes of the Kerry management. Given his performance levels during the league (especially given his relative level of inexperience) I'm stuggling to imagine any football reasons for him not being in the panel - you'd imagine he's at the very least worth being kept around for training with the squad to see how/if he develops, especially given the other options around the middle eight. The three players I heard had been dropped/left were Shane Murphy, Gavin O'Brien and Conor Geaney. Personally I'd be thinking that all 3 could well be called back in the future. Liam Kearney ( already mentioned) plus Danny Sheahan ( Legion) and Daniel O'Brien ( Glenflesk) have been added to the training panel - heard also about Gavin O'Brien being left go but not sure how accurate this is. Heard the same three players had been called in. Don't know if there are any others called in. I did hear about one proposed positional switch that had me scratching my head - it falls into the so unusual that I'd categorise it as not even been worth repeating. In terms of injuries I think the following are the Kerry panel whose health/injury status is up in the air, based on the fact that they missed time with their clubs. There might be a few others that I have missed. Paul Murphy Peter Crowley Dara Moynihan Gavin White Tommy Walsh David Moran Kevin McCarthy Jack Barry Michael Geaney Tomás Ó Sé The following three are apparently gone from the panel Shane Ryan Gavin O'Brien Conor Geaney When you look at the list of the remaining players who featured in the league, there's a fair amount that were out of commission with injuries fairly recently and lads who were combining league and Sigerson. Gavin Crowley Sean O'Shea Tom O'Sullivan Stephen O'Brien Jack Sherwood Diarmuid O'Connor Brian Ó Beaglaíoch Mark Griffin Tadhg Morley Paul Geaney Adrian Spillane Graham O'Sullivan David Clifford Jonathan Lyne Killian Spillane Shane Enright Brian Kelly James O’Donoghue Jason Foley Doesn't exactly look ideal a month out from Kerry's first championship game.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2019 18:25:28 GMT
A dislocated knee for Peter Crowley sounds like a couple of months out
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Post by Mickmack on Apr 30, 2019 20:03:10 GMT
so Gavin OBrien is gone. One of the few options we had to fetch a kickout.
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Post by kerrygold on Apr 30, 2019 21:06:05 GMT
It would be disappointing if Gavin O'Brien was dropped. Not having come through the underage grades he needs loads of intercounty conditioning now.
Peter Crowley would be an integral part of whatever defensive game they put together!
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