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Post by Attacking Wing Back on Apr 17, 2019 23:06:37 GMT
Picked this team with an emphasis on bringing out our bigger men to the middle 8 where they can exert more of an influence. Barry would be more than capable of playing roving role for kick outs at WF while tracking runners as well from deep. Foley and O'Sullivan are the only two capable of marking pacey forwards. Sherwood a better presence at CB, that's the role he played for EK which got him back on the panel in the first place. Clifford has the gooch radar and will be able to pick out Geaney and O Donoghue, while also being well able to pick off the opposition from long range, with O'Brien roaming and carrying a threat while running at defenses. It leaves the bench a little short of attacking threat but here's hoping a few more come to the fore in next couple months. 1. S Ryan 2. P Crowley 3. J Foley 4. T O'Sullivan 5. G White 6. J Sherwood 7. P Murphy 8. O Shea 9. Moran 10.Moynihan 11.Clifford 12.Barry 13.O Donoghue 14.Geaney, 15 O Brien Subs: S Murphy, G Crowley, Morley, T Brosnan, Begley, O Connor,G O Brien, T Walsh, I can't understand these people calling for clifford to be moved to the CHF slot. Why would we move our most dangerous forward out the field and away from goals. I have seen some nice touches from Clifford but, nothing to suggest he is a game breaker in the gooch mould. Would you not rather have him inside there getting on ball? Do you want Clifford haring back the field, getting on breaks etc. Sean O'Shea and Moran are too slow to play together in midfield. SOB is a streaky forward and always has been. We would be very light on scores especially with those 2 wing forwards allied to clifford playing out at CHF. And its not like Geaney and JOD have set the world alight in the last year or more. We would need pace in the middle in at least one player. I think Jason Foley is a great defender but not a full back at senior level. Not yet anyway. He cant command the square. I agree with Sherwood at centre half back.
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Post by Mickmack on Apr 18, 2019 7:31:30 GMT
Picked this team with an emphasis on bringing out our bigger men to the middle 8 where they can exert more of an influence. Barry would be more than capable of playing roving role for kick outs at WF while tracking runners as well from deep. Foley and O'Sullivan are the only two capable of marking pacey forwards. Sherwood a better presence at CB, that's the role he played for EK which got him back on the panel in the first place. Clifford has the gooch radar and will be able to pick out Geaney and O Donoghue, while also being well able to pick off the opposition from long range, with O'Brien roaming and carrying a threat while running at defenses. It leaves the bench a little short of attacking threat but here's hoping a few more come to the fore in next couple months. 1. S Ryan 2. P Crowley 3. J Foley 4. T O'Sullivan 5. G White 6. J Sherwood 7. P Murphy 8. O Shea 9. Moran 10.Moynihan 11.Clifford 12.Barry 13.O Donoghue 14.Geaney, 15 O Brien Subs: S Murphy, G Crowley, Morley, T Brosnan, Begley, O Connor,G O Brien, T Walsh, I can't understand these people calling for clifford to be moved to the CHF slot. Why would we move our most dangerous forward out the field and away from goals. I have seen some nice touches from Clifford but, nothing to suggest he is a game breaker in the gooch mould. Would you not rather have him inside there getting on ball? Do you want Clifford haring back the field, getting on breaks etc. Sean O'Shea and Moran are too slow to play together in midfield. SOB is a streaky forward and always has been. We would be very light on scores especially with those 2 wing forwards allied to clifford playing out at CHF. And its not like Geaney and JOD have set the world alight in the last year or more. We would need pace in the middle in at least one player. I think Jason Foley is a great defender but not a full back at senior level. Not yet anyway. He cant command the square. I agree with Sherwood at centre half back. DC made something of every ball he got in the league final albeit one shot went wide. Its a no brainer that he should be more centrally involved either at 11 or 14.
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Post by kerrygold on Apr 18, 2019 8:09:11 GMT
DC is far too clinical inside to be moved out the field. They don't run Messi & Ronaldo around the park........
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2019 9:18:25 GMT
Ideally you'd have Clifford inside, but we don't have the players outside capable of winning and delivering that ball where it needs to go a la Galvin or Darragh. Get him on it out the field, there's no point in the game passing him by, through no fault of his own. We need to bring a presence to the centre, Dublin and Mayo will bully us out of every game. I don't think we need to have massive pace in the middle, just bring a phyicality to it, same as Darragh did.By bringing Clifford, O Shea and Sherwood closer to the middle I think it gives us a better balance. Geaney will hopefully be back to his best and O Brien has been our best forward all year, I think we have more than enough score getters, but we need to be bossing the middle 8.
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Post by Attacking Wing Back on Apr 18, 2019 18:14:28 GMT
I can't understand these people calling for clifford to be moved to the CHF slot. Why would we move our most dangerous forward out the field and away from goals. I have seen some nice touches from Clifford but, nothing to suggest he is a game breaker in the gooch mould. Would you not rather have him inside there getting on ball? Do you want Clifford haring back the field, getting on breaks etc. Sean O'Shea and Moran are too slow to play together in midfield. SOB is a streaky forward and always has been. We would be very light on scores especially with those 2 wing forwards allied to clifford playing out at CHF. And its not like Geaney and JOD have set the world alight in the last year or more. We would need pace in the middle in at least one player. I think Jason Foley is a great defender but not a full back at senior level. Not yet anyway. He cant command the square. I agree with Sherwood at centre half back. DC made something of every ball he got in the league final albeit one shot went wide. Its a no brainer that he should be more centrally involved either at 11 or 14. Yes in the inside line. What do we gain with him out the field? I think all positions in the inside line come across each other as the game develops. Gooch was able to prosper form the corner and cutting into the middle.
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Post by Mickmack on Apr 18, 2019 21:52:04 GMT
DC made something of every ball he got in the league final albeit one shot went wide. Its a no brainer that he should be more centrally involved either at 11 or 14. Yes in the inside line. What do we gain with him out the field? I think all positions in the inside line come across each other as the game develops. Gooch was able to prosper form the corner and cutting into the middle. below is all the times DC got on the ball in the league final. No more than 10 times I would say. He should be far more involved. He is simply too good to be isolated in the corner. FF or CHF for me. Shur doesn't Messi do most of his greatest work for the CHF position!
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Post by veteran on Apr 18, 2019 22:28:46 GMT
I agree that David should be more involved. I made this point after the NFL final. He is a man eater. I would be dubious about him at CHF where he could be dragged away outfield. Perhaps at FF but it does not have to be a central position. Just get the ball into him, good or bad, and he will create mayhem. The odd ball into Paul and JOD would help also! The ball into those two boys may have to be a little more precise but get any kind of ball into David irrespective of his location. He will win most of them and then just watch him deliver.
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Post by gbbuei on Apr 19, 2019 1:13:44 GMT
I agree that David should be more involved. I made this point after the NFL final. He is a man eater. I would be dubious about him at CHF where he could be dragged away outfield. Perhaps at FF but it does not have to be a central position. Just get the ball into him, good or bad, and he will create mayhem. The odd ball into Paul and JOD would help also! The ball into those two boys may have to be a little more precise but get any kind of ball into David irrespective of his location. He will win most of them and then just watch him deliver. I agree. Talk of moving our most clinical forward (potentially of all time) beyond the 21 seems mad to me IMHO. There are plenty lads who can graft out the field. A team should be assembled based on its strengths. Moving our marquee forward away from the scoring zone would be music to any opposition’s ears. If I was an opposition back I’d be absolutely delighted to see Clifford 40/50 yards and beyond from my goals. Clifford isn’t the problem here. Or the fix either. Let’s not go creating another problem for ourselves to solve.
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Post by kerryboyo on Apr 19, 2019 1:17:13 GMT
Does anyone know what’s going on with enright injured or what
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2019 5:13:09 GMT
We have a 2 man full forward line most of the time so it is not like Clifford is just standing in the corner. He has licence to move.
Often if he is out towards the corner, that is where the space is. Dublin especially are really good at using the full pitch to find space for their forwards.
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Post by Mickmack on Apr 19, 2019 7:21:02 GMT
unless i missed some bit when putting that video together, DC got on the ball once between the 47th minute and the 61st minute. That one intervention between the 47th and 61st was in the lead up to JBs point.
I know there a lots of reason why this happened but still, i think we all agree that when DC gets on the ball it is like when the fox rambles into the henhouse.
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Post by kot on Apr 19, 2019 8:00:08 GMT
Potts & Shane Murphy gone from panel?
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Post by A.N. Other on Apr 19, 2019 11:20:22 GMT
Potts & Shane Murphy gone from panel? Heard Shane Murphy left the panel. He was told he wouldn’t be allowed play for the club and would be third choice Kerry keeper.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2019 11:39:59 GMT
The 3rd choice point makes more sense than the club one.
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Post by Mickmack on Apr 19, 2019 12:32:50 GMT
Potts & Shane Murphy gone from panel? Heard Shane Murphy left the panel. He was told he wouldn’t be allowed play for the club and would be third choice Kerry keeper. He was told that by whom? Are you joking!
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Post by A.N. Other on Apr 19, 2019 12:45:29 GMT
The Kerry management. I’m not saying it’s 100% true but just what I heard.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2019 12:53:35 GMT
He has been with the club all year and will be for the rest of the month also.
I'd say being told he is third choice keeper would be a bigger reason for him to want to leave the panel.
Fair play to him for his loyalty to his club regardless!
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Apr 19, 2019 13:11:29 GMT
So has the panel been trimmed? I heard that Dan O'Brien of Glenflesk has been brought in. Anyone else hear of anyone being brought in or dropped?
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Apr 19, 2019 13:12:55 GMT
Does anyone know what’s going on with enright injured or what He played with Tarbert last weekend. Apparently did well back in the backs. They played him at centre forward in the previous game.
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Post by number14 on Apr 19, 2019 13:22:39 GMT
He has been with the club all year and will be for the rest of the month also. I'd say being told he is third choice keeper would be a bigger reason for him to want to leave the panel. Fair play to him for his loyalty to his club regardless!Good one - I wonder if Kilcummin folk would agree. Being down the pecking order is more likely his issue - pity he does not want to fight for the number 1 spot. Most supporters would rank him at 2 with a fighting chance of being No.1. Was told in Killarney recently that the Crokes lads did not get the cead mile failte back from PK they were expecting when their club campaign ended. Some were expecting to be straight back in and this was not on the cards. Not sure how true this is.
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Post by number14 on Apr 19, 2019 13:24:05 GMT
So has the panel been trimmed? I heard that Dan O'Brien of Glenflesk has been brought in. Anyone else hear of anyone being brought in or dropped? Good player, well worth a look. Made the Sigerson team of the year recently.
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Post by Mickmack on Apr 19, 2019 17:00:25 GMT
The Kerry management. I’m not saying it’s 100% true but just what I heard. It doesnt make sense.
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Post by A.N. Other on Apr 19, 2019 19:54:33 GMT
The Kerry management. I’m not saying it’s 100% true but just what I heard. It doesnt make sense. Either does Brian Kelly being ahead of Shane Murphy. I was just replying to kot, I don't know the in's and outs of what happened I'm sure there has been a bit added on from the Killarney crowd I heard it from.
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Post by pillar on Apr 23, 2019 17:37:42 GMT
Either does Brian Kelly being ahead of Shane Murphy. I was just replying to kot, I don't know the in's and outs of what happened I'm sure there has been a bit added on from the Killarney crowd I heard it from. To be fair Shane Murphy finished last year as No.2,hasn't played since August for Kerry for understandable club reasons and so I would understand why he would be at No.3 at the moment.If the rumours are even true that he's walked out he didn't give it much of a chance to get to No.1
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2019 9:46:46 GMT
Happy with S Ryan in goals as long as he nails the kickouts and composes himself a bit more, think that will come with a few more games, league final big learning curve for him. Happy with Kelly as no 2, plenty experience at this level and has shown hes up for the fight for no 1 position down the years. Think Ryan would benefit more too from Kellys experience of big games in the past.
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Post by crokes86 on Apr 24, 2019 14:18:15 GMT
Dublin will take beating again this year especially if they get Diarmuid Connolly and Rory O’Carroll back in the panel.
They are still the top team in the Country I don’t think they took the League very serious this year.
Mayo will be their closest and then us I think after that probably Tyrone. Monaghan and Galway would give them a game but not beat them . They have a strong panel and lots of options from the bench.
Kerry have goalkeeping and midfield problems and that will go against them . Mayo have found a couple of Forwards and a midfielder and they look to be in the best position out of everyone to challenge the Dubs. Should be a great game when they meet.
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Apr 24, 2019 17:19:03 GMT
www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/gaa/goalkeeper-shane-murphy-no-longer-part-of-kerry-panel-919826.htmlIt's true then. It also means Shane Ryan will almost certainly be our starting goalkeeper come championship. To be honest I'm not too disappointed. I prefer Ryan to Murphy and while I do prefer Murphy to Kelly, sub keeper isn't too important and Kelly is perfectly adequate for this. Also bad news on Gavin White. He's out for 6 to 8 weeks which means he is unlikely to be available for our first championship. A big setback considering he hasn't played for us this year and will miss all of the training from here until championship.
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Post by themanfromthewest on Apr 24, 2019 18:06:25 GMT
Dublin will take beating again this year especially if they get Diarmuid Connolly and Rory O’Carroll back in the panel. They are still the top team in the Country I don’t think they took the League very serious this year. Mayo will be their closest and then us I think after that probably Tyrone. Monaghan and Galway would give them a game but not beat them . They have a strong panel and lots of options from the bench. Kerry have goalkeeping and midfield problems and that will go against them . Mayo have found a couple of Forwards and a midfielder and they look to be in the best position out of everyone to challenge the Dubs. Should be a great game when they meet. Are we ahead of Tyrone, Galway, Monaghan and Donegal? Tyrone looked strong at the end of the league and at championship pace I think they’d like their chances v Kerry. There is Dublin clearly ahead and the 5-6 teams all within a kick of a ball of each other IMO. Jury is still out on Mayo for me they have been hugely inconsistent over the years and it wouldn’t surprise me if they fail to win Connaught again. Of course we don’t know what Kerry will be like until later in the year, I expect improvement over the league final. That is a pity about Gavin White he may find it hard to get back in now. It is one position where we are relatively well covered I suppose.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2019 20:05:32 GMT
www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/gaa/goalkeeper-shane-murphy-no-longer-part-of-kerry-panel-919826.htmlIt's true then. It also means Shane Ryan will almost certainly be our starting goalkeeper come championship. To be honest I'm not too disappointed. I prefer Ryan to Murphy and while I do prefer Murphy to Kelly, sub keeper isn't too important and Kelly is perfectly adequate for this. Also bad news on Gavin White. He's out for 6 to 8 weeks which means he is unlikely to be available for our first championship. A big setback considering he hasn't played for us this year and will miss all of the training from here until championship. Breaking news for the Examiner but old news for those who read this forum.
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Post by Mickmack on Apr 24, 2019 22:31:47 GMT
www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/gaa/goalkeeper-shane-murphy-no-longer-part-of-kerry-panel-919826.htmlIt's true then. It also means Shane Ryan will almost certainly be our starting goalkeeper come championship. To be honest I'm not too disappointed. I prefer Ryan to Murphy and while I do prefer Murphy to Kelly, sub keeper isn't too important and Kelly is perfectly adequate for this. Also bad news on Gavin White. He's out for 6 to 8 weeks which means he is unlikely to be available for our first championship. A big setback considering he hasn't played for us this year and will miss all of the training from here until championship. No one leaving Croker that day after the Galway game debacle would have expected that it would be Shane Murphys last game for Kerry. The shock that he was dropped before the Monaghan game was profound. He certainly could not be faulted that day v Galway. Kerry were well in it till Killians red card made it 15 v 14 and at a stroke it meant that Shanes option for the short kickout was gone. Shane Ryan took his chance while Shane Murphy was away with Crokes and for the league final it was fair that Brian Kelly was named in the panel ahead of him given Brians involvement in all other league games. Its a pity that Shane Murphy has walked away. He was shabbily treated in my view after the Galway game. Maybe he just wants to play away week in week out with Crokes and thats understandable.
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