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Post by brigid on Mar 16, 2019 11:43:47 GMT
The goalkeeping position is still a weakness. We have 3 keepers none of whom are top level yet. Ryan looks like a guy still learning the position at senior level. A spell in goals for the club wouldn't hurt. You are probably correct. The more experience a keeper gets the better he will be. But how many of the full back line played for their clubs in their county positions last week? It must be a bit of a worry for a keeper not seeing the number 3 in front of him. As already stated there are 5 half backs and a midfielder in the back 6. Definitely will be badly exposed later in the year.
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Post by southward on Mar 16, 2019 13:20:25 GMT
Folks does anyone know how well does the new sod in ASP deal with rain like we are experiencing today ? Royalkerryfan, I don’t think giving other keepers a game between the sticks is a bad plan, you have to keep them both fresh and keen. To be fair Ryan has had three very similar “moments” that we were fortunate to walk away with a victory with, that won’t go unnoticed going forward but I still think he is a very good overall keeper. Austin Stack Park has excellent drainage - no worries about the pitch. Rain easing off now in Tralee, due to cease in the afternoon with the odd shower but forecast is for a very cold evening. Clare v Meath in Ennis called off - waterlogged pitch.
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Post by givehimaball on Mar 16, 2019 14:11:20 GMT
I think I'm correct in thinking that a matchday panel consists of a total of 26 players. I notice that we have named 27 on this occasion. I wonder why. If I were to guess it is because someone on the bench is carrying an injury, and if not fit will be dropped off the panel tomorrow, if fit someone else will make way.. The squad naming procedure doesn't work like this. A matchday squad of 26 has to be submitted to Croke Park by 9am the Thursday before a game. No changes can be made to this 26. One of the 27 named definitely is ineligible to play tonight. I can't think of any good reason why 27 were named.
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Post by peanuts on Mar 16, 2019 15:44:49 GMT
I think I'm correct in thinking that a matchday panel consists of a total of 26 players. I notice that we have named 27 on this occasion. I wonder why. If I were to guess it is because someone on the bench is carrying an injury, and if not fit will be dropped off the panel tomorrow, if fit someone else will make way.. The squad naming procedure doesn't work like this. A matchday squad of 26 has to be submitted to Croke Park by 9am the Thursday before a game. No changes can be made to this 26. One of the 27 named definitely is ineligible to play tonight. I can't think of any good reason why 27 were named. I know that’s the case for championship but is it the case for league? There have been several league games this year where players started that weren’t in the announced panel. Con O’Callaghan against us was one and Shane Walsh against Mayo was another.
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Post by sullyschoice on Mar 16, 2019 16:30:02 GMT
I presume Jack Sherwood is injured.
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Post by Attacking Wing Back on Mar 16, 2019 16:50:34 GMT
The squad naming procedure doesn't work like this. A matchday squad of 26 has to be submitted to Croke Park by 9am the Thursday before a game. No changes can be made to this 26. One of the 27 named definitely is ineligible to play tonight. I can't think of any good reason why 27 were named. I know that’s the case for championship but is it the case for league? There have been several league games this year where players started that weren’t in the announced panel. Con O’Callaghan against us was one and Shane Walsh against Mayo was another. Rule only applies to championship as far as I am aware. In championship once the list goes into croke park on the Thursday only a keeper or sub keeper can be replaced. it's as you were for league
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Post by mystic86 on Mar 16, 2019 17:09:15 GMT
Selling a spare ticket for tonight, PM if interested, but would have to meet outside pitch in 20 minutes.
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Post by egbabroad on Mar 16, 2019 20:50:05 GMT
Outmuscled in midfield. Too slow in the 1st half in building play. For me, Morley is not answer at full back. Not aggressive enough in tackling, too lackadaisical. Real wake up call ! Shades of last year tonight, a lot of work to do
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Post by sullyschoice on Mar 16, 2019 21:12:11 GMT
Mayo won al the breaks around the middle. We did nothing up front.
It was fairly poor weather for watching a game too.
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Post by keane on Mar 16, 2019 21:22:54 GMT
Mayo won al the breaks around the middle. We did nothing up front. It was fairly poor weather for watching a game too. That's interesting. I didn't see it as I'm travelling but breakers was the one big thing I thought was not too hot in our great start
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Post by Chinatown on Mar 16, 2019 21:29:43 GMT
So most likely to be meeting Mayo again in the league final
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2019 21:36:16 GMT
Well beaten I thought. Mayo dominated the physical exchanges. I thought midfield was non-existant. We badly needed Moran tonight.
Likely to be Galway in the league final, hard to be excited about that
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Post by greengold35 on Mar 16, 2019 21:49:41 GMT
Fairly lackadaisical for the first 15/20 mins but then upped the ante to outscore Mayo 6 points to one - thought Jack Barry was on top at this stage with Seán O’Shea & Tommy influential - half forwards struggled, Kevin McCarthy good in patches, Stephen O’Brien on the ball sporadically but unable to penetrate.
We played second fiddle in the 2nd half - no improvement up front, midfield not in it - got caught flat footed for the goal, players got caught ball watching.
A serious gut check - league final awaits, Mayo again would be a big test.
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Post by Mickmack on Mar 16, 2019 22:15:49 GMT
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Post by Mickmack on Mar 16, 2019 22:16:41 GMT
Galway are away to Tyrone.
Mayo are at home to Monaghan.
A Kerry v Tyrone final is a possibility.
Kerry could fail to reach the final ... unlikely but a possibility.
A Kerry v Mayo final looks the most likely i think.
I didnt see tonights game yet but going by the comments on here ...Kerrys performance was similar to the buildup on here all week.... flat.
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Post by gamechanger10 on Mar 16, 2019 22:17:55 GMT
Mayo took it too us from the get go and never allowed us to control the game and we were a fortunate three points ahead at half time with a gale at our backs. To be fair it is hard to come down hard on either team tonight as the conditions were just shocking and it wasn't a game that will feature strongly when the championship team is being selected. There were times when we were trying to come out of defense and Mayo were putting us under pressure and I felt some of our forwards were in a position to run into significant space and provide a much needed outlet for our defense but they failed to provide that option which resulted in a far more labored transition. Mayo deserve great respect for their efforts and I think they deserved their win tonight. It was a game that we will learn much from going forward and it was in my opinion a significant loss for the collective and it will provide an opportunity for positive change particularly in defense as we move forward (I don’t want to sound to harsh on them as we were quiet good over all in that sector and kept mayo out quiet well for the most part).
We seemed a little disorganised in defense and by that i mean it looked on occasion like our backs were so focused on their man that mayo were able on a few occasions to cut us open without a hand being put on them. As I have stated above it was not a night for Champaign football and in dogfighs like that things simply go awry and cannot be properly analyzed due to the added ingredients of weather, hunger and the probability of qualification or the final being more or less in the bag.
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Post by egbabroad on Mar 16, 2019 22:19:22 GMT
What happens if 3 teams are tied on 10 points, is it head to head or points difference that decided who goes into final?
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Post by kerryboy83 on Mar 16, 2019 22:24:27 GMT
What happens if 3 teams are tied on 10 points, is it head to head or points difference that decided who goes into final? Score difference
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Post by taggert on Mar 16, 2019 22:47:49 GMT
Thought Kerry were flat and heavy legged for long spells. Mayo deserving winners and given they rested Keegan (late sub appearance), Boyle and Durcan, they will be well pleased. Some mentioned Morley not being the answer at full back but he was stationed on the wing. Short half a yard of pace at this level. Mayo pushed right up on Kerry forcing lots of lateral hand passing. Apart from Sean OShea, and occasionally KevinMc, we struggled to create and take chances. Dara, Gavin snd Stephen were poor. Midfield never really had the platform to give Tommy Walsh enough ball but he did ok with what came his way. Moran is probably the only creative midfielder we have with JB always minded to take the safe option. Griffin does not kick to forwards and Spillane (late sub) struggles to get on the ball at all. TomSe won a few balls but either overplays it or runs into traffic. A good eye opener for the players and management.
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Post by clarinman on Mar 16, 2019 22:56:43 GMT
I thought we looked leg weary tonight. There didn't seem to be the energy we have seen in the previous 5 games. We lost our shape at the back in the second half. We had no defender in our 45 for Ruane's goal. Someone has to stay back to mind the house. Is this an issue with playing no back who plays in the full backline with his club? Someone earlier said that Morley is not a full back. He didn't play there tonight. He lined up at left half back.
I didn't think we had the best night on the sideline either. Our first 3 subs were to take off Walsh, McCarthy and Moynihan. This was at a stage in the game when we couldn't get the ball out of our own half. The inside line wasn't the problem.
At least it's still in our own hands going to Roscommon.
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Post by peanuts on Mar 16, 2019 23:01:23 GMT
We have a 11 point advantage over Galway in score difference so should make the final even if we lose against the Rossies. No harm to lose tonight and expose a few weaknesses.
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Post by pillar on Mar 16, 2019 23:11:07 GMT
Galway are away to Tyrone. Mayo are at home to Monaghan. A Kerry v Tyrone final is a possibility. Kerry could fail to reach the final ... unlikely but a possibility. A Kerry v Mayo final looks the most likely i think. I didnt see tonights game yet but going by the comments on here ...Kerrys performance was similar to the buildup on here all week.... flat. You need to be a professor at this stage to figure it out but is there any scenario (and what is it?) that Kerry don't make the final?
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Post by peanuts on Mar 16, 2019 23:13:20 GMT
Galway are away to Tyrone. Mayo are at home to Monaghan. A Kerry v Tyrone final is a possibility. Kerry could fail to reach the final ... unlikely but a possibility. A Kerry v Mayo final looks the most likely i think. I didnt see tonights game yet but going by the comments on here ...Kerrys performance was similar to the buildup on here all week.... flat. You need to be a professor at this stage to figure it out but is there any scenario (and what is it?) that Kerry don't make the final? If Mayo and Galway both win and we lose but Galway would have to make up 11 points and Mayo 4.
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Post by southward on Mar 16, 2019 23:18:19 GMT
Well that was a miserable evening all round.
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Post by pillar on Mar 16, 2019 23:18:47 GMT
You need to be a professor at this stage to figure it out but is there any scenario (and what is it?) that Kerry don't make the final? If Mayo and Galway both win and we lose but Galway would have to make up 11 points and Mayo 4. Tyrone going for a final spot bouncing after beating the Dubs and us vs Roscommon..can't see that big a swing in Galways favour!!!
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Post by factman on Mar 16, 2019 23:32:34 GMT
Let's be honest awful conditions for both teams I suppose if toss went t other way we would have won by a few points but would have to say spillane made a point at half time that kerry have 6 natural half backs playing in defence and no natural full back
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Mar 16, 2019 23:35:11 GMT
Can someone tell me what’s the story with Tom Leo O Sullivan I seen him playing today in galarus surly he should be in training with Kerry? We don’t have a man marker in our defence Was he very good? He is in training with Kerry and was on the bench for the first league game. It seems to me that Peter Keane wants everyone of his defenders to be able to take the ball out from the back and contribute to the attack. This is something like what Dublin do.
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Post by thebluepanther on Mar 16, 2019 23:36:29 GMT
Let's be honest awful conditions for both teams I suppose if toss went t other way we would have won by a few points but would have to say spillane made a point at half time that kerry have 6 natural half backs playing in defence and no natural full back He probably seen it mentioned here first.
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Post by southward on Mar 16, 2019 23:39:29 GMT
In fairness, the signs of weariness were there from the last day. All those League & Sigerson games in rapid succession on heavy ground taking their toll on the young lads.
Never looked like getting anything out of that game tonight.
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Post by fitz on Mar 17, 2019 0:14:40 GMT
The game was lost predominantly in the first 15 minutes. Conceding 4 scores, I don’t think you would not have known we had wind advantage. Some very poor shot selection and execution during this period in particular, it was also the period we struggled most to get and hold onto possession. Mayo were much tighter marking and fouled less in this period also.
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