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Post by rapook on Mar 3, 2019 20:43:49 GMT
Just wondering how did Kevin Mac get on today , working so didn’t get to see game
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Post by southward on Mar 3, 2019 20:51:48 GMT
Just wondering how did Kevin Mac get on today , working so didn’t get to see game Not great tbh. Replaced at HT. Yellow-carded too. Still, he's been out of the picture for a while.
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Post by The16thMan on Mar 3, 2019 20:57:35 GMT
Just wondering how did Kevin Mac get on today , working so didn’t get to see game Wasn't fantastic and was taken off, very inconsistent player but has talent. I know he scored 3-7 for Kilcummin in the final but he doesn't tend to pose much of a scoring threat in the green & gold. Has alot to do to make the championship 15 in my opinion.
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Post by southward on Mar 3, 2019 21:00:19 GMT
Barring injuries, the Crokes lads are going to struggle to get a look-in when available. Can't, for instance, see Burns displacing Dara Moynihan any time soon.
Gavin White is probably their best bet at this stage - they should consider nominating him as captain to avoid yet another non-playing incumbent this year.
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Post by taggert on Mar 3, 2019 21:21:00 GMT
Barring injuries, the Crokes lads are going to struggle to get a look-in when available. Can't, for instance, see Burns displacing Dara Moynihan any time soon. Gavin White is probably their best bet at this stage - they should consider nominating him as captain to avoid yet another non-playing incumbent this year. DM is probably better than Burns on all scores - plays with his head up and has a maturity beyond his years. Also extremely disciplined. Great to have the competition but no contest given the continued excellence of DM to date. White is a banker as he is simply a marvellous footballer, with unrivalled pace and an endless ability to break forward. Shaw could be the real bolter - think he will easily be above both Spillane and C. Geaney in the pecking order and depending on how the form and fitness of P. Geaney and JOD is, I think he could yet see game time.
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Post by givehimaball on Mar 3, 2019 21:22:16 GMT
Barring injuries, the Crokes lads are going to struggle to get a look-in when available. Can't, for instance, see Burns displacing Dara Moynihan any time soon. Gavin White is probably their best bet at this stage - they should consider nominating him as captain to avoid yet another non-playing incumbent this year. It would hardly be a shock if Shane Murphy went back in goals. At the moment if I was picking a keeper for Kerry's first championship game he gets the nod. I wouldn't be writing Burns off just yet, especially as a sub/panel option. Dara has done very well but with young players in particular form can fluctuate, especially in their first season. I wouldn't be surprised to see one of the cousins replace the other at some stage in the championship. Potts and Shaw both have time on their side and fall into the development category. The wild card is Tony Brosnan - not beyond the bounds of possibility he gets called back into the squad at a future date.
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Post by Kingdomson on Mar 3, 2019 22:07:20 GMT
A really fine win today and great to see the habit of strong finishes continuing in this new era for Kerry football. Mayo up next, and lets hope we keep dishing out those calling cards and letting sides know there's a new Kerry around. Moreover, I hope we see David Clifford and JOD back soon, it would be nice to see in action as soon as possible our likely Championship full forward line contenders joining up with the rest of the jigsaw being assembled for the Championship.
On a side note, I watched the Roscommon vs Dublin match too on the box and Conor Cox continues to show his a seriously impressive and comfortable scoring forward at this level. Seems a man to me we let slip away far too easily under the previous management.
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Post by Attacking Wing Back on Mar 3, 2019 22:17:16 GMT
Just posting as thawing out. Haven't watch match back yet. Shane ryan to me looks very dodgy. Look not to give away a goal today when his attempt to stop a point hit the bar. Lost the ball coming out as well in the first half. And on top of the made a meal of going high for the ball at the end when he could have got it mote comfortable on his line. Throw in last week as well.
I think Murphy is still ahead of him
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Post by southward on Mar 3, 2019 22:22:50 GMT
A really fine win today and great to see the habit of strong finishes continuing in this new era for Kerry football. Mayo up next, and lets hope we keep dishing out those calling cards and letting sides know there's a new Kerry around. Moreover, I hope we see David Clifford and JOD back soon, it would be nice to see in action as soon as possible our likely Championship full forward line contenders joining up with the rest of the jigsaw being assembled for the Championship. On a side note, I watched the Roscommon vs Dublin match too on the box and Conor Cox continues to show his a seriously impressive and comfortable scoring forward at this level. Seems a man to me we let slip away far too easily under the previous management. Had a couple of chances with Kerry but was never going to be a regular. Decent player who works hard but just not quite top Kerry forward standard imo and I've watched him loads of times with Listowel as well. Roscommon seems to be suiting him alright though, good luck to him.
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Post by Mickmack on Mar 3, 2019 23:11:48 GMT
Just posting as thawing out. Haven't watch match back yet. Shane ryan to me looks very dodgy. Look not to give away a goal today when his attempt to stop a point hit the bar. Lost the ball coming out as well in the first half. And on top of the made a meal of going high for the ball at the end when he could have got it mote comfortable on his line. Throw in last week as well. I think Murphy is still ahead of him I'd say Shane Ryan would love a crack at an outfield spot! He prevented a point today whereas Beggan tipped a similar effort over the bar. Of the two keepers today, Shane will be the happier i think.
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Post by themanfromthewest on Mar 3, 2019 23:37:49 GMT
Ryan looks nervy in goal but I’m sure that will pass with experience don’t forget he wouldn’t have played much in goals in recent years. He may be our best long term option but Murphy might take the championship spot this year.
On the other Crokes lads I think White will start and Burns is certainly in the 26, maybe Brosnan and / or Shaw too.
Is there any chance of Buckley coming back? If PK want to play a three man midfield he would be a very useful option
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Post by mossie on Mar 4, 2019 0:05:13 GMT
Shane Ryan owes Peter Crowley a few pints after saving him from disaster at the end. Seems to have a problem timing his jump, it's not the first time. Great resolve in the end but a tired-looking and unconvincing display from Kerry, I thought. Can't agree that Monaghan were flattered by the scoreline; looked for a long time that they were going to be our bogey-team again. Great display from Tommy - did he get motm? Won 4 marks, I think, but of course that's gone for the championship. Half-back line drove us on in the end, Murphy and Tom Sull in particular. Liking Sherwood this year too. O'Brien was too deep for too much of the game imo but did wreck when in advanced positions. SOS - no more needs to be said about this man but needs a break at this stage. Referee was shocking. The marks may be gone for the championship but if Dublin have a chink it is in their full back line under a high ball, Tommy some option to have on board for that alone
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Post by mossie on Mar 4, 2019 0:07:16 GMT
Just posting as thawing out. Haven't watch match back yet. Shane ryan to me looks very dodgy. Look not to give away a goal today when his attempt to stop a point hit the bar. Lost the ball coming out as well in the first half. And on top of the made a meal of going high for the ball at the end when he could have got it mote comfortable on his line. Throw in last week as well. I think Murphy is still ahead of him Murphy was very harshly dropped in the super 8s last year. Ryan will improve I feel. Tight call between them. Crokes run doing no favours to Murphy
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Post by mossie on Mar 4, 2019 0:08:27 GMT
Barring injuries, the Crokes lads are going to struggle to get a look-in when available. Can't, for instance, see Burns displacing Dara Moynihan any time soon. Gavin White is probably their best bet at this stage - they should consider nominating him as captain to avoid yet another non-playing incumbent this year. It would hardly be a shock if Shane Murphy went back in goals. At the moment if I was picking a keeper for Kerry's first championship game he gets the nod. I wouldn't be writing Burns off just yet, especially as a sub/panel option. Dara has done very well but with young players in particular form can fluctuate, especially in their first season. I wouldn't be surprised to see one of the cousins replace the other at some stage in the championship. Potts and Shaw both have time on their side and fall into the development category. The wild card is Tony Brosnan - not beyond the bounds of possibility he gets called back into the squad at a future date. Burns is a sub option\panellist at a minimum. He has more than earned that
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Post by jackiel on Mar 4, 2019 0:32:23 GMT
I was all set to travel for this one but events conspired against me, daughter involved in a serious RTA on Thursday so I diverted to Roscommon to give a hand with 2 grandsons. Watched the deferred coverage until No 1 grandson demanded we switch off the "football match" in favour of Paw patrol.Conditions far from ideal, but happy for the most part with what I saw. I was also very sceptical about the return of TW but am happy to be proved wrong. Seanie O Shea is a revelation, showing maturity beyond his years. Dara Moynihan is making his mark and I wouldn't be surprised if he's still very much to the fore come the championship. I wont make the Mayo match as I'll be on duty in Croke Park the next morning for the club finals. I'm excited by what we've seen this year so far and while I'm not putting us in an AI final this year the anticipation of campionship football is palpable.
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Post by onlykerry on Mar 4, 2019 9:43:09 GMT
Solid win from Kerry yesterday - shaping up to be an interesting dilema for PK to pick a starting six in the forwards division with plenty of lads putting their hands up. Defensively I am not so sure we have solved our problems fully as yet and we are still a work in progress at the back. Reasonably good defending as a unit but lacking stoppers and one on one defenders to an extent. Giving up goal chances and been getting the rub of the green by not conceeding. WRT the Crokes lads, any forward will have his work cut out to break into the Kerry team/squad but there may be opportunities for defenders. GK and MF are also open for change with not Jack Barry the only guy solidifying his position thus far. Delighted with the progress to date.
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Post by homerj on Mar 4, 2019 10:20:20 GMT
didnt hear an attendance yesterday, anybody know what it was?
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Post by greengold35 on Mar 4, 2019 10:30:18 GMT
didnt hear an attendance yesterday, anybody know what it was? 6560 according to the Examiner.
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Post by homerj on Mar 4, 2019 10:34:57 GMT
didnt hear an attendance yesterday, anybody know what it was? 6560 according to the Examiner. cheers. well down on first 2 games and what the mayo game is likely to be, but i would think a good few turned home when they seen the weather yesterday morning.
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Post by kerrygold on Mar 4, 2019 11:04:10 GMT
Barring injuries, the Crokes lads are going to struggle to get a look-in when available. Can't, for instance, see Burns displacing Dara Moynihan any time soon. Gavin White is probably their best bet at this stage - they should consider nominating him as captain to avoid yet another non-playing incumbent this year. It would hardly be a shock if Shane Murphy went back in goals. At the moment if I was picking a keeper for Kerry's first championship game he gets the nod. I wouldn't be writing Burns off just yet, especially as a sub/panel option. Dara has done very well but with young players in particular form can fluctuate, especially in their first season. I wouldn't be surprised to see one of the cousins replace the other at some stage in the championship. Potts and Shaw both have time on their side and fall into the development category. The wild card is Tony Brosnan - not beyond the bounds of possibility he gets called back into the squad at a future date. Just posting as thawing out. Haven't watch match back yet. Shane ryan to me looks very dodgy. Look not to give away a goal today when his attempt to stop a point hit the bar. Lost the ball coming out as well in the first half. And on top of the made a meal of going high for the ball at the end when he could have got it mote comfortable on his line. Throw in last week as well. I think Murphy is still ahead of him Just posting as thawing out. Haven't watch match back yet. Shane ryan to me looks very dodgy. Look not to give away a goal today when his attempt to stop a point hit the bar. Lost the ball coming out as well in the first half. And on top of the made a meal of going high for the ball at the end when he could have got it mote comfortable on his line. Throw in last week as well. I think Murphy is still ahead of him I'd say Shane Ryan would love a crack at an outfield spot! He prevented a point today whereas Beggan tipped a similar effort over the bar. Of the two keepers today, Shane will be the happier i think. Far too soon to be writing off Shane Ryan just yet. He has a pile of work to do but playing is the only place he will learn and refine his game. Neither of the two Killarney town keepers inspire me at all in goal. It might be worth taking a look at the young keeper back in Dingle also. Michael Burns was one of the standout new young players last year and I expect him to play a big role this summer. Gavin White will most likely start for Kerry, class player with loads of pace. Shaw & Brosnan will need to bulk up to play in the inside for Kerry going forward. Exciting times for Kerry just now. Great to hear PK connect with the fans again yesterday after the game. The Kerry team is for the people to enjoy.
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Post by kerrygold on Mar 4, 2019 11:10:30 GMT
Another big win for Kerry yesterday. Game management has come on in leaps and bounds. Fully fancied Kerry at half time to have enough to win the game in the second half. A very impressive close out from Kerry in the last 10 minutes, never panicked and played their way through it. Monaghan are a very decent, physically strong and hard team to beat. Looking forward now to seeing them against Mayo who will bring real intensity to Tralee with them.
Bitterly cold yesterday. The hurlers showed some heart to play through those conditions,it pretty much snowed all through their game with players struggling with cold limbs and cold hands in particular.
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Post by veteran on Mar 4, 2019 11:27:53 GMT
While driving through Lyrecrompane yesterday the snow was falling so heavily , and accumulating, I was wondering if I should return home, being convinced that the matches would have to be postponed. I snow ploughed on and by the time I reached Castleisland matters had improved significantly so I kept going. I am very pleased that I did so because I was rewarded with a humdinger.
The four teams must be commended for playing in awful conditions, particularly the hurlers who played when there was a good dusting of snow on the surface. It was noticeable that when players wee substituted they were immediately directed to the dressing room, no doubt for the deserved luxury of a warm shower.
Conditions had improved a little by the time the footballers took over, but not by much. It was no picnic up on the stand either . The icy cold percolated through to the bone marrow, breathing ann heart beat only being sustained by the wild intensity of what unfolded on the pitch. This was a full blooded affair between a team, hanging by a cobweb like thread to division one status, populated with battle hardened hombres, against a team made up mostly of probationers. The probationers once more pulled it off with a flurry of punches approaching the final bell, as they have done in three previous matches. Grit and stubbornness in abundance. They too luxuriated in a warm shower post match while I waddled away, teeth chattering, bones rattling with blood circulation reduced to a dribble. Still, there was a glow inside because I had just observed another display from a collection of lads who refused to accept defeat against a team who have distinguished themselves over the past couple of years , possessing as the do a plethora of All-Stars.
As far as I can recall we had a point lead in the early minutes of the game. We did not attain that status again until about the sixty second minute. That will indicate the challenge Monaghan presented. They always seemed to be a point or two ahead, at one stage three. No matter how well Kerry played, Monaghan seemed to be able to keep us at arm's length and I was not at all confident that we would eventually subdue them. But subdue them we did with a combination of collective' defiant heroism and youthful fearlessness, with a tincture of old head wisdom thrown in. As the game was coming to a close we had mined a two point lead and then Monaghan had a man sent off. How would it have gone if that had not happened? I feel we would still have won it but perhaps not with the flamboyance of the last few minutes. Then, like Elvis, we nearly threw it all away at the end through a goal keeping error.
Shane Murphy once more did not impress. He delivered a horrible first half kick out from which Monaghan should have scored, he commendably went high to save a point but made a hash of clearing, he sallied forth in the second half and had to dangerously double back after facing a road block and then he failed to hold that last minute high one which was goal wards bound only for the intervention of Peter. In summary I would say that Shane looks every inch like a goal keeper who has only played five competitive games in goals over the past number of years.
Peter struggled against Conor McManus in the first half but who doesn't says you. However, he was much more assertive in the second half. He was unfairly penalised twice for holding when it was the wily Conor who was the perpetrator. And of course, as stated, he saved our bacon in one of the last plays of the game. Brian O'Beaghlaigh struggled badly in the first half but like Peter he improved in the second half. Of course Brian has played a lot of Sigerson football as well so there maybe an element of tiredness. His replacement, Graham O'Sullivan, did his future prospects no harm. He will surely get one of the two remaining games to display his wares. Jack Sherwood was majestic in my view. This a strong, pacy boy , comfortable on the ball, keeps the head up with no inhibitions about coming forward. In spite of this latter trait there is a whiff of the old hard as nails type defender about him.. I hope his injury is not a serious one.
Paul Murphy and Tom O'Sullivan were near nigh perfect in the half back line. Gavin Crowley spent a lot of his time up in Kerry attack following his man where he played a lot of ball impressively. It is hard to assess him defensively on the basis of this game but he does have physique and attitude.
At midfield we flew on one wing. While Jack Barry had one of his best games poor Mark was game but aimless. He was no match for his direct opponent , Gavin Doogan, who was consumed with energy and commitment. On one memorable occasion Gavin went horizontally into a cluster of plyers like a back row forward to claim possession. In Mark's defence he got a nasty blow to the face early in the game which an erratic referee felt did warrant a card.
Up front, the only player to be replaced was Kevin McCarthy. No doubt there is a wide chasm between playing intermediate for your club and competing against the merciless Wylies and friends. I continue to be a fan.
Dara Moynihan and Gavin O'Brien continue to make huge progress. Raw and green yet but with more physical training and mentoring they could be hard to shift come summer. Once more Stephen O'Brien was one of our main men and scored two fabulous points to boot. Sean O'Shea is not all about free taking. He brings a calmness and sophistication at variance with his youth and of course that side line kick evoked a sunnier afternoon in Thurles several years ago. Maurice must be green with envy!
Like most people I had Tommy Walsh consigned to the scrap heap. A couple of his fielding efforts recalled an age when I was boy and Mick O'Connell was a man. Let us pray that debilitating injury does not return.
Tomas with the dancing feet regaled us again. Fouled twice and nearly caught out the wandering Rory Beggan.
It was interesting to see Peter Keane give Michael Geaney an earful as Michael, as is his wont, stays on the periphery of matters rather than moving forward to pick up a pass. It was clear that Peter wants him to make himself available in a forward position rather than hanging back to lazily receive a pass and then lazily hand pass it backwards.
Glad to see Jason getting a run at the end.
We move forwards with the tails up and the ticket for the Mayo match in the back pocket.
At the stand side in the second half, Sean O'Shea cleverly played the ball against an opponent for a Kerry line ball. The linesman, with a bird's eye view, flagged a Kerry ball but the referee, in the middle of the field, insisted it was a Monaghan ball. Reminiscent of the phantom 45 Mr. Gough gave Dublin some years ago after the umpire, on the spot, waved it wide while the all seeing Mr. Gough out in the middle of the field saw it as a 45. Noble is the vocation of referees.
P.S. Jackiel I hope your child is making a making a satisfactory recovery from the accident. Football is of little importance compared to an event like that.
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Post by peanuts on Mar 4, 2019 13:45:09 GMT
At the stand side in the second half, Sean O'Shea cleverly played the ball against an opponent for a Kerry line ball. The linesman, with a bird's eye view, flagged a Kerry ball but the referee, in the middle of the field, insisted it was a Monaghan ball. Reminiscent of the phantom 45 Mr. Gough gave Dublin some years ago after the umpire, on the spot, waved it wide while the all seeing Mr. Gough out in the middle of the field saw it as a 45. Noble is the vocation of referees. I might be wrong Veteran but I thought the referee gave a free against Sean O'Sé for a throw ball. Still wrong of course but on initial viewing on the telly it did look like a throw ball (replay showed it wasn't).
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Post by dc84 on Mar 4, 2019 14:00:16 GMT
At the stand side in the second half, Sean O'Shea cleverly played the ball against an opponent for a Kerry line ball. The linesman, with a bird's eye view, flagged a Kerry ball but the referee, in the middle of the field, insisted it was a Monaghan ball. Reminiscent of the phantom 45 Mr. Gough gave Dublin some years ago after the umpire, on the spot, waved it wide while the all seeing Mr. Gough out in the middle of the field saw it as a 45. Noble is the vocation of referees. I might be wrong Veteran but I thought the referee gave a free against Sean O'Sé for a throw ball. Still wrong of course but on initial viewing on the telly it did look like a throw ball (replay showed it wasn't). Yeah he clearly gestured that it eas a throw. Shouldve trusted his linesman who was closer and very clear.
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Post by giveandgo on Mar 4, 2019 14:31:21 GMT
Is paul geaney injured at the moment?
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Mar 4, 2019 14:32:46 GMT
Is paul geaney injured at the moment? My understanding he is after a minor operation.
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Post by taibhse on Mar 4, 2019 14:35:23 GMT
Another big win for Kerry yesterday. Game management has come on in leaps and bounds. Fully fancied Kerry at half time to have enough to win the game in the second half. A very impressive close out from Kerry in the last 10 minutes, never panicked and played their way through it. Monaghan are a very decent, physically strong and hard team to beat. Looking forward now to seeing them against Mayo who will bring real intensity to Tralee with them. Bitterly cold yesterday. The hurlers showed some heart to play through those conditions,it pretty much snowed all through their game with players struggling with cold limbs and cold hands in particular. Is it allowable criticism - the kind that might not upset anybody, to pose the following questions that a few people in my vicinity were discussing in the stand yesterday? 1. Why was Brian O’Beaglaíoch left marking a man who clearly had his number from the start? Not good for his confidence. 2. Why was Shane Enright deployed at midfield when Mark Griffin was taken off? 3. Why was fullback Jack Sherwood replaced by a smallish corner forward, Thomás O’Shea at a time when Jason Foley was still on the bench? When the previous management had engaged in a similar decision they were called out. I expect to be flamed here, but we have to be able to say the unsayable
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Mar 4, 2019 14:46:56 GMT
Another big win for Kerry yesterday. Game management has come on in leaps and bounds. Fully fancied Kerry at half time to have enough to win the game in the second half. A very impressive close out from Kerry in the last 10 minutes, never panicked and played their way through it. Monaghan are a very decent, physically strong and hard team to beat. Looking forward now to seeing them against Mayo who will bring real intensity to Tralee with them. Bitterly cold yesterday. The hurlers showed some heart to play through those conditions,it pretty much snowed all through their game with players struggling with cold limbs and cold hands in particular. Is it allowable criticism - the kind that might not upset anybody, to pose the following questions that a few people in my vicinity were discussing in the stand yesterday? 1. Why was Brian O’Beaglaíoch left marking a man who clearly had his number from the start? Not good for his confidence. 2. Why was Shane Enright deployed at midfield when Mark Griffin was taken off? 3. Why was fullback Jack Sherwood replaced by a smallish corner forward, Thomás O’Shea at a time when Jason Foley was still on the bench? When the previous management had engaged in a similar decision they were called out. I expect to be flamed here, but we have to be able to say the unsayable Ah they're fair questions. 1. Has been addressed above. 2. Are you sure about this? 3. I am sure there was an adjustment but in any case this is better than a back replacing a forward!
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Post by Fado on Mar 4, 2019 15:05:11 GMT
Veteran, i'm sure you meant Shane Ryan. " Shane Murphy once more did not impress. He delivered a horrible first half kick out from which Monaghan should have scored, he commendably went high to save a point but made a hash of clearing, he sallied forth in the second half and had to dangerously double back after facing a road block and then he failed to hold that last minute high one which was goal wards bound only for the intervention of Peter. In summary I would say that Shane looks every inch like a goal keeper who has only played five competitive games in goals over the past number of years"
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Post by decondd2 on Mar 4, 2019 15:52:04 GMT
Another big win for Kerry yesterday. Game management has come on in leaps and bounds. Fully fancied Kerry at half time to have enough to win the game in the second half. A very impressive close out from Kerry in the last 10 minutes, never panicked and played their way through it. Monaghan are a very decent, physically strong and hard team to beat. Looking forward now to seeing them against Mayo who will bring real intensity to Tralee with them. Bitterly cold yesterday. The hurlers showed some heart to play through those conditions,it pretty much snowed all through their game with players struggling with cold limbs and cold hands in particular. Is it allowable criticism - the kind that might not upset anybody, to pose the following questions that a few people in my vicinity were discussing in the stand yesterday? 1. Why was Brian O’Beaglaíoch left marking a man who clearly had his number from the start? Not good for his confidence. 2. Why was Shane Enright deployed at midfield when Mark Griffin was taken off? 3. Why was fullback Jack Sherwood replaced by a smallish corner forward, Thomás O’Shea at a time when Jason Foley was still on the bench? When the previous management had engaged in a similar decision they were called out. I expect to be flamed here, but we have to be able to say the unsayable 1. I agree on this. Change should have happened quicker. 2. Enright came on a Midfield to quieten Gavin Doogan who was on a wrecking spree of late hits and nasty little challenges. Shane Enright came in and shut him down physically. Great call IMO. 3. Tomás was stripped and ready to come on for a forward when Sherwood went down injured. So they brought him on. Foley was brought on fairly soon after if I recall. Mikey Geaney dropped a bit deeper during that time.
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