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Post by southward on Feb 25, 2019 19:41:30 GMT
In the interests of fairness I might point out that the tackle that led to Tomás Sé's "breakway" point was made by Stephen O'Brien. Yep. On Kerin. Lovely! And here it is...
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Post by dc84 on Feb 25, 2019 20:31:29 GMT
In fairness the tactic of using your defenders out wide is a grwat one just switch enright with gavin white and its a total different ball game. What a start! Just compare it to this time last year.
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Post by john4 on Feb 25, 2019 20:57:32 GMT
Another very honest workman like performance again yesterday, that's the type of game we'd have lost last year. Digging out aul dirty wins like that builds a team's confidence no end. Whether it's as a result of EF's parting shot at followers/supporters for not getting behind the team, or just because it's easier to follow a winning team, the support yesterday was savage and I think that actually does make a difference to the lads. One area they'll know that will have to get better is when they are in the lead and attacking is loosing possession in the opposition half. It nearly cost us in Tralee and again yesterday. The likes of Dublin rarely cough up the ball in this way. It's only February but they're going nicely
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Post by southward on Feb 25, 2019 21:18:57 GMT
Another very honest workman like performance again yesterday, that's the type of game we'd have lost last year. Digging out aul dirty wins like that builds a team's confidence no end. Whether it's as a result of EF's parting shot at followers/supporters for not getting behind the team, or just because it's easier to follow a winning team, the support yesterday was savage and I think that actually does make a difference to the lads. One area they'll know that will have to get better is when they are in the lead and attacking is loosing possession in the opposition half. It nearly cost us in Tralee and again yesterday. The likes of Dublin rarely cough up the ball in this way. It's only February but they're going nicely On that - a lot of empty space yesterday. Galway supporters don't seem to be turning out in numbers; perhaps fed-up with their team's style of play?
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Post by sullyschoice on Feb 25, 2019 23:04:15 GMT
A lot of the ones around me were getting very frustrated with all the lateral and backward movement.
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Post by kerrygold on Feb 25, 2019 23:05:34 GMT
Savage crowd going back down through Adare on Sunday evening. Bit like a Friday evening at 5pm.
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Post by kerrygold on Feb 25, 2019 23:12:24 GMT
That was a very pleasing win yesterday, hard earned, especially after conceding a ridiculous goal towards the end. Apart from gaining two more points, the most gratifying aspect of the game that once more, as in the Cavan and Dublin matches, we had the resilience and attitude to survive a few body blows and breast the tape at the end. To heighten the pleasure it is noteworthy that the young colts were to the forefront in snatching these victories. There were times when the match was ugly, particularly in the first half, and if one had not a vested interest in the outcome one would have been tempted to tune out and while away the afternoon in a different mode. Thankfully the game opened up towards the end of the first half, when Kerry put down the foundations for victory, and in the second half when Galway gave a hint of what they are capable of by attacking with greater frequency and no little success. Surely this is Galway's only hope in the future and they seem to have the forwards to execute that approach especially with a few top notchers to return. The hope is that Kevin Walsh may yet see the light. Watching the match on TV gives a bird's eye view of various aspects of a game but you get a more rounded view by being present and I presume lads who were there will give us that perspective. Accordingly, my opinion is that of the armchair pundit, a dangerous species. After the Dublin match , I said that Shane Ryan had still not nailed down the goal keeping spot. He did not advance his cause yesterday, costing us a goal and a point, a big total in a relatively low scoring game. The goal could have cost us the match. Now, Shane may still be our best option here and may consolidate that role before the NFL is completed. The basic rule for a goalie who decides to come out for a high ball is you only come out if you are are sure of making a secure connection and ,ideally , taking a forward or two with you. Otherwise you stay put. Shane did something similar against Tyrone, without paying the ultimate price, and of course he flapped at another one against Dublin. I concede that he is new to the setup but could it be that EF had a point- are these lapses due to the fact that he does not play in goal for his club? Time will tell. The full back line once more looked secure and, importantly, Jack Sherwood is not putting a foot wrong so far. It was interesting that Jason Foley was not the one to replace Shane Enright. Our midfielders did not appear to be that prominent, from the armchair at least. I do not recall either of them catching a high one and a lot of breaks were picked up by Galway players. Tommy Walsh caught a few mighty ones when he wandered out there. If Tommy could approach within a mile of his 2009 form it would be an unexpected bonus. As I said before , Diarmuid O'Connor is a long term investment and of course he was not helped by picking up a yellow card. Replaced by Jonathan? I feel Jonathan has been recycled too often. I am not sure he has much to give now. He had a promising debut as a wingback a few years back but had his development stalled by trying to make a wing forward out of him. In contrast the precocious Dara Moynihan continues to delight. Gavin O'Brien scored two important points , one could have been goal. It is difficult not to be impressed by this apprentice. Experience and an inter county level of fitness should make this man a formidable opponent for anybody. Stephen O'Brien was one of our main men yesterday and we possibly could have come home with our tail between our legs without his contribution. But Stephen, a friendly word from the armchair: When you win your free walk away and be grateful. Your tackle on the corner back, very likely deserved, was a very dangerous one and could have merited a red card. Late in the game you got a black cad for pulling down a defender. Could you not have made a half decent effort at executing a tackle and, if needs be, commit a foul without incurring a black card. Do these cards accumulate? I am singling out Stephen because he now is one of our main players and is too important to be warming the bench. Donie Buckley please note. Kerry won the junior All-Ireland two years ago and I saw most of their games thereby getting a good glimpse of Tomas O'Se. Therefore I am not a bit surprised at what he gave us yesterday. Unlike say, Mikey Geaney or Jonathan, this garsun is a forward by instinct , full of gumption and brio. Give him a sniff and he will hare towards that goal. Could be an exciting addition. Monaghan in Killarney next Sunday I believe. The armchair will have to find other company. Great report as usual veteran, you did not miss much from your armchair! I am with you on Shane Ryan and his penchant for fisting the ball in flight as opposed to catching it - no excuses for yesterday's mistake but hopefully its one he will learn from. Mark Griffin did a lot of good work around the pitch and his athleticism in this area was a help - Jack Barry was too quiet for my liking and needs to step up in the upcoming games. I would not be too critical of Stephen O'Brien regarding his card - the Galway defender was holding onto him limpet like and despite O'Brien attempting to dislodge him, he was having none of it - the card probably should have been a yellow for dangerous play as opposed to a black card - disappointing that the opposition defender escaped any sanction. I think that Kerry should appeal this card similar to the black Denis Bastick received a few years ago in Killarney when dragging down Star in a hop ball - Dublin appealed this decision and had it changed to a yellow; black cards are cumulative and bearing in mind that Stephen also picked up one in last year's Munster final, think its worth having it rescinded if possible. He took one for the team at the end but it maybe could have been avoided. I was speaking to some Galway supporters during the game and none seemed happy with Kevin Walsh's tactics - public opinion may change his way of thinking if results fail! At least Shane is getting game time as a keeper this year, be it with Kerry or Rathmore. You'd like to see "an outfield player" commanding those high balls into the square. Shane has a shed load of work to do in goals, shot stopping, high balls and kickout. He is in the right place now to work on these.
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Post by colinsworth1 on Feb 25, 2019 23:49:11 GMT
In the interests of fairness I might point out that the tackle that led to Tomás Sé's "breakway" point was made by Stephen O'Brien. Yep. On Kerin. Lovely! And here it is... How sweet it is !!! Top that Mcmenamin ! Now that’s how you beat the blanket you take them on you don’t * foot around the periphery all afternoon What a score. Memories of Maradonnas goal v England in the World Cup Can we get some more of that please
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Post by MeathExile on Feb 26, 2019 1:08:09 GMT
Made the trip west yesterday with the Galway father-in-law. parked outside the Brogue so thought I had gone to Tralee instead on the auto-pilot. Arrived in time for a big fry up in Corrolea Court like most of the Kerry people - the poor father-in-law was looking for a Galway soul but none in sight. The Kerry support was fantastic yesterday.
The old hay-shed stand is not a great advertisement for Tuam - they have nets up inside it, supposedly to keep the birds out, but I think it is to stop the bits falling from the roof - a fair few holes were present for ventilation - thankfully no rain on the day. The DAfTS (Development Advocates for Tuam Stadium) have a big job on their hands - but this could be a fantastic venue if they can improve on the stand situation. Take a trip to have a look at the Cavan stand DAfTS - first class job done by the Breffni.
This was another good performance by the Kerry lads - it is a joy to watch young lads with no fear giving their all and not knowing when to give up. That is the best trait of this squad - fearlessness.
Shane was very good again - I looked away for a second though and suddenly he was in front of the stand - methinks copying the Galway goalie who did a similar thing in the first half. He was lucky to to concede more than a point - a more direct team would have pumped it in for the goal while Shane was out sight-seeing. Apart from that and the fisted effort for the goal, Shane did well - a work in progress. I would like to see him try a few long-range frees to give us cover for the day when SoS is out.
I have privately doubted Shane Enright over the years but he was super yesterday - long may it continue. there is a lot more football in there and I think we will see more of it now that he is allowed to go forward a bit more - a great point from the wing yesterday.
Peter was solid - need to be careful on who he is placed on - he is not the quickest to turn so horses for courses - better suited to the likes of Comer or his ilk.
Sherwood is an excellent player - well able to play ball and a true modern full back.
Paul, Gavin C, & Tom O S - these lads are fantastic - I love watching Gavin C - a real fighter and inspiration. Paul and Tom O S are setting themselves very high standards. Gavin W may even find it difficult to get his foot in the door. This is what we need though - with Morley as well there are real strong options in defence again.
I wrote about Mark G being left out on the prairie after the Cavan match and thank God we got to see him there for the whole match. He brings fantastic energy and drive to midfield. Horses for courses with himself, Jack B, Adrian S, David and the big surprise for me yesterday Tommy W when he went out there for spurts in the second half. There are really good options here to pick from - depending on the team we are playing and also for the last 20 minutes in matches where the cavalry will be needed.Tommy caught one amazing ball mid-way through the second half on the hay-shed side that the cameras didnt pick up - better that the fathers famous jump against Dublin many moons ago. He is really coming back to his best form.
In the half forwards, Diarmuid was not as effective yesterday as the first few games but as I wrote before, this young guy will be our main man in a few years along with Gavin on the other wing. They are both suffering on the stamina side a bit but that is the nature of their job as well. SoS was his usual self - I met the father at the Cavan match last time out - he must be very happy.
Up front, I beg to differ from most people on here on Stephen. He played very well yesterday but I really believe he is most effective as a second half player where he can go full tilt for the 35 minutes. He is not a good tackler, and like yesterday, will typically end up with a yellow or black in the first half and then he is on edge and in danger of putting at a 14-man deficit. This is not meant to be negative on him - he is extremely effective and makes a huge impact - just think we need to mind him for his best role in the team.
Dara M is a revelation - this guy is fearless and has tremendous heart. Only negative yesterday was the attempt at goal from the outside of the boot - take a lesson from Tomas Og's finishing when going at the goal - what composure after the gallop. JoD will have his work cut out to make it back in.
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Post by Premier on Feb 26, 2019 9:17:46 GMT
Made the trip west yesterday with the Galway father-in-law. parked outside the Brogue so thought I had gone to Tralee instead on the auto-pilot. Arrived in time for a big fry up in Corrolea Court like most of the Kerry people - the poor father-in-law was looking for a Galway soul but none in sight. The Kerry support was fantastic yesterday. The old hay-shed stand is not a great advertisement for Tuam - they have nets up inside it, supposedly to keep the birds out, but I think it is to stop the bits falling from the roof - a fair few holes were present for ventilation - thankfully no rain on the day. The DAfTS (Development Advocates for Tuam Stadium) have a big job on their hands - but this could be a fantastic venue if they can improve on the stand situation. Take a trip to have a look at the Cavan stand DAfTS - first class job done by the Breffni. This was another good performance by the Kerry lads - it is a joy to watch young lads with no fear giving their all and not knowing when to give up. That is the best trait of this squad - fearlessness. Shane was very good again - I looked away for a second though and suddenly he was in front of the stand - methinks copying the Galway goalie who did a similar thing in the first half. He was lucky to to concede more than a point - a more direct team would have pumped it in for the goal while Shane was out sight-seeing. Apart from that and the fisted effort for the goal, Shane did well - a work in progress. I would like to see him try a few long-range frees to give us cover for the day when SoS is out. I have privately doubted Shane Enright over the years but he was super yesterday - long may it continue. there is a lot more football in there and I think we will see more of it now that he is allowed to go forward a bit more - a great point from the wing yesterday. Peter was solid - need to be careful on who he is placed on - he is not the quickest to turn so horses for courses - better suited to the likes of Comer or his ilk. Sherwood is an excellent player - well able to play ball and a true modern full back. Paul, Gavin C, & Tom O S - these lads are fantastic - I love watching Gavin C - a real fighter and inspiration. Paul and Tom O S are setting themselves very high standards. Gavin W may even find it difficult to get his foot in the door. This is what we need though - with Morley as well there are real strong options in defence again. I wrote about Mark G being left out on the prairie after the Cavan match and thank God we got to see him there for the whole match. He brings fantastic energy and drive to midfield. Horses for courses with himself, Jack B, Adrian S, David and the big surprise for me yesterday Tommy W when he went out there for spurts in the second half. There are really good options here to pick from - depending on the team we are playing and also for the last 20 minutes in matches where the cavalry will be needed.Tommy caught one amazing ball mid-way through the second half on the hay-shed side that the cameras didnt pick up - better that the fathers famous jump against Dublin many moons ago. He is really coming back to his best form. In the half forwards, Diarmuid was not as effective yesterday as the first few games but as I wrote before, this young guy will be our main man in a few years along with Gavin on the other wing. They are both suffering on the stamina side a bit but that is the nature of their job as well. SoS was his usual self - I met the father at the Cavan match last time out - he must be very happy. Up front, I beg to differ from most people on here on Stephen. He played very well yesterday but I really believe he is most effective as a second half player where he can go full tilt for the 35 minutes. He is not a good tackler, and like yesterday, will typically end up with a yellow or black in the first half and then he is on edge and in danger of putting at a 14-man deficit. This is not meant to be negative on him - he is extremely effective and makes a huge impact - just think we need to mind him for his best role in the team. Dara M is a revelation - this guy is fearless and has tremendous heart. Only negative yesterday was the attempt at goal from the outside of the boot - take a lesson from Tomas Og's finishing when going at the goal - what composure after the gallop. JoD will have his work cut out to make it back in. I don’t know about SOB not being a good tackler. He ran back and made the tackle for the point to go ahead in injury time. Also the second yellow card yesterday wasn’t an attempt to tackle, it looked like he wanted to give away a foul to slow things down
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Post by dc84 on Feb 26, 2019 9:40:28 GMT
Made the trip west yesterday with the Galway father-in-law. parked outside the Brogue so thought I had gone to Tralee instead on the auto-pilot. Arrived in time for a big fry up in Corrolea Court like most of the Kerry people - the poor father-in-law was looking for a Galway soul but none in sight. The Kerry support was fantastic yesterday. The old hay-shed stand is not a great advertisement for Tuam - they have nets up inside it, supposedly to keep the birds out, but I think it is to stop the bits falling from the roof - a fair few holes were present for ventilation - thankfully no rain on the day. The DAfTS (Development Advocates for Tuam Stadium) have a big job on their hands - but this could be a fantastic venue if they can improve on the stand situation. Take a trip to have a look at the Cavan stand DAfTS - first class job done by the Breffni. This was another good performance by the Kerry lads - it is a joy to watch young lads with no fear giving their all and not knowing when to give up. That is the best trait of this squad - fearlessness. Shane was very good again - I looked away for a second though and suddenly he was in front of the stand - methinks copying the Galway goalie who did a similar thing in the first half. He was lucky to to concede more than a point - a more direct team would have pumped it in for the goal while Shane was out sight-seeing. Apart from that and the fisted effort for the goal, Shane did well - a work in progress. I would like to see him try a few long-range frees to give us cover for the day when SoS is out. I have privately doubted Shane Enright over the years but he was super yesterday - long may it continue. there is a lot more football in there and I think we will see more of it now that he is allowed to go forward a bit more - a great point from the wing yesterday. Peter was solid - need to be careful on who he is placed on - he is not the quickest to turn so horses for courses - better suited to the likes of Comer or his ilk. Sherwood is an excellent player - well able to play ball and a true modern full back. Paul, Gavin C, & Tom O S - these lads are fantastic - I love watching Gavin C - a real fighter and inspiration. Paul and Tom O S are setting themselves very high standards. Gavin W may even find it difficult to get his foot in the door. This is what we need though - with Morley as well there are real strong options in defence again. I wrote about Mark G being left out on the prairie after the Cavan match and thank God we got to see him there for the whole match. He brings fantastic energy and drive to midfield. Horses for courses with himself, Jack B, Adrian S, David and the big surprise for me yesterday Tommy W when he went out there for spurts in the second half. There are really good options here to pick from - depending on the team we are playing and also for the last 20 minutes in matches where the cavalry will be needed.Tommy caught one amazing ball mid-way through the second half on the hay-shed side that the cameras didnt pick up - better that the fathers famous jump against Dublin many moons ago. He is really coming back to his best form. In the half forwards, Diarmuid was not as effective yesterday as the first few games but as I wrote before, this young guy will be our main man in a few years along with Gavin on the other wing. They are both suffering on the stamina side a bit but that is the nature of their job as well. SoS was his usual self - I met the father at the Cavan match last time out - he must be very happy. Up front, I beg to differ from most people on here on Stephen. He played very well yesterday but I really believe he is most effective as a second half player where he can go full tilt for the 35 minutes. He is not a good tackler, and like yesterday, will typically end up with a yellow or black in the first half and then he is on edge and in danger of putting at a 14-man deficit. This is not meant to be negative on him - he is extremely effective and makes a huge impact - just think we need to mind him for his best role in the team. Dara M is a revelation - this guy is fearless and has tremendous heart. Only negative yesterday was the attempt at goal from the outside of the boot - take a lesson from Tomas Og's finishing when going at the goal - what composure after the gallop. JoD will have his work cut out to make it back in. I don’t know about SOB not being a good tackler. He ran back and made the tackle for the point to go ahead in injury time. Also the second yellow card yesterday wasn’t an attempt to tackle, it looked like he wanted to give away a foul to slow things down Ah he can be a bit loose with the tackling alright Mr Buckley will surely improve him there. I think o brien has to start the way he is playing him sos and moynihan look nailed on at the moment.main reason is goals he creates them and scores them something we have struggled a small bit with lately.
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Post by homerj on Feb 26, 2019 10:57:12 GMT
a noticeable feature so far has been points from our defenders! long may it continue - tomas, marc, aidan especially comes to mind from past glories.
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Post by veteran on Feb 26, 2019 15:16:19 GMT
Thanks for report Meathexile.
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Post by southward on Feb 26, 2019 21:59:47 GMT
Yep. On Kerin. Lovely! And here it is... How sweet it is !!! Top that Mcmenamin ! Now that’s how you beat the blanket you take them on you don’t * foot around the periphery all afternoon What a score. Memories of Maradonnas goal v England in the World Cup Can we get some more of that please Am I right in saying that was O'Sé's first ever touch in senior inter-county? In injury time with the game all square. Some cojones to go for it in those circumstances, some confidence. Unreal!
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Post by southward on Feb 26, 2019 22:12:09 GMT
Kerin looks like a woman whose handbag has just been snatched on the street.
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Post by Mickmack on Feb 26, 2019 23:12:42 GMT
the dancing would be good for building muscles!
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Post by whacker on Feb 27, 2019 10:52:10 GMT
Enough said , eanna had his chance and didn't take it and comparing him to fenton just shows you are taking the piss, its like comparing a lada to a porsche . I thing jack dooley is playing rugby professionally in russia . Colm Vegas another hero back west, would have been in with Kerry only for that high balll that moy got that goal out of!!! Anyway on a posotive note I enjoyed my trip to Galway but i don’t like listening to the tacticians in the terraces can we all leave that to the guys on the sideline, can someone answer me and tell me where in the grounds did the Clifford lad get the twister it looked nice I think the fact colm vegas has a sister that is better than him ruined his chances
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Post by ballhopper34 on Feb 27, 2019 17:31:03 GMT
Very hard to count the number of steps Tomas took between solos on a few occasions in that run. He definitely went above 6 a few times. Was easier to gauge distance between solos rather than steps.
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Post by john4 on Feb 27, 2019 18:13:08 GMT
Very hard to count the number of steps Tomas took between solos on a few occasions in that run. He definitely went above 6 a few times. Was easier to gauge distance between solos rather than steps. What isn't as obvious as well looking at the clip again was that Stephen O'Brien after winning the ball back on the 45, was in around the small square when the ball went over the bar. In the 71st minute. Some engine.
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Post by colinsworth1 on Feb 27, 2019 19:23:58 GMT
Very hard to count the number of steps Tomas took between solos on a few occasions in that run. He definitely went above 6 a few times. Was easier to gauge distance between solos rather than steps. What isn't as obvious as well looking at the clip again was that Stephen O'Brien after winning the ball back on the 45, was in around the small square when the ball went over the bar. In the 71st minute. Some engine. I’m glad you spotted a Kerry player I though Tomas got no support from his team they simply were not prepared for this explosion of pace and doggedness O Brien if indeed your correct has to be given huge credit for keeping up with the ball carrier after making a game winning turnover What struck me was the sheer numbers in Maroon all drifting Towards Tomás which begs the question where the F were all our loose men Any Kerry player that appeared at back post could have been in for an easy goal something to consider in future though not needed Sunday due to the sheer individual brilliance of one Kerry super sub
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Post by wayupnorth on Feb 28, 2019 7:57:25 GMT
A lot of the ones around me were getting very frustrated with all the lateral and backward movement. Guilty as charged! It was extremely frustrating to watch that section of the game. Especially when the only team that appeared to benefit was Galway. That’s why Tomás being sprung from the traps was such a tonic. No doubt coming out on top in two such hard fought games will really bring the team on in both confidence and ability. Much better than easy victories.
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Post by onlykerry on Feb 28, 2019 9:41:22 GMT
Overcarrying the ball is an interesting "Irish" rule - take no steps and you can be pulled or take too many and you can be pulled. If your steps are fast or slow, long or short does it matter - in most cases I suspect its the time the ball is held by the player that influences the referee and there always seems to be an allowance if you are being harassed by a defender. Its a typical GAA rule that leaves a lot to the referee in making the call.
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Post by Mickmack on Mar 4, 2019 23:45:56 GMT
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