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Post by kerrygold on Feb 22, 2019 12:03:43 GMT
It will be interesting to see if perceptions towards PG's form changes here on Monday if SOS doesn't play and PG kicks 4 or 5 frees and a few from play. Not a given SOS won't start. Heavy winter training would probably be harder than playing 2 games per week. Kerry have 10-12 game left to play between now and next January. Trying to figure out that first sentence. Do you think his form for Kerry hasnt been poor in 2018 and 2019 so? Maybe not as good as other seasons but kicking a few frees can mask it a little. I wouldn't judge anyone by Kerry summer 2018 model. Kerry were poor across the board with the exception of the young players. PG has still been kicking a few points from play in games in 2019. He might not be as prominent going forward with the emergence of SOS, DC, Dara Moynihan and a few others. That might be a plus in the bigger scheme of things.
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Post by Mickmack on Feb 22, 2019 12:28:33 GMT
When Galway found a few forwards, it meant that Joe Canning did have to contribute as much on the scoreboard. If anything he contributed more in an outfield role as the playmaker. I would like to see PG operated in the half forward line ... being an option for kickouts as his fielding ability is top class ... and kicking scores from distance.
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Post by colinsworth1 on Feb 22, 2019 12:44:47 GMT
When Galway found a few forwards, it meant that Joe Canning did have to contribute as much on the scoreboard. If anything he contributed more in an outfield role as the playmaker. I would like to see PG operated in the half forward line ... being an option for kickouts as his fielding ability is top class ... and kicking scores from distance. I’m not so sure this management is going to be so accommodating to be “shifting the chairs around in the titanic “ if a player is not playing well he’s replaced let’s not get too sentimental here .Past performances good as they may have been count for little ,to win anything we need to be more ruthless . I’m not so sure Paul has hadle the over the top agression dished our by today’s full backs I’d bring him in as Sub possibly only if showing well in training
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Post by homerj on Feb 22, 2019 12:53:08 GMT
this demise of Paul Geaney is greatly exaggerated ffs.
i think its more down to the modern game (15 behind ball) and lack of space than anything else. he is in general playing well.
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Post by colinsworth1 on Feb 22, 2019 13:12:17 GMT
Where county team is concerned I think it would be sacreligous to play PG any where other than 13,14 or 15 If Paul is so good in the over head ball and I believe he is ,then why does he hardly ever get this type of ball over some of the smaller corner back s ? One on one like the day in 2014 final where he easily picked the ball from over the head of paddy Mc Grath Nothing difficult about this but rarely tried. And I don’t mean a sky high ball it should come in at around 10 feet high. Overall though it’s going to be so competitive for the starting 6 the way it should be . Unless your playing at the top of your game for the team then your not cutting it with this new regime and rightly so .
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Feb 22, 2019 13:13:12 GMT
I think Paul Geaney could benefit from a role around the half forwards instead of being the one who has to provide all the scores. Would he be suited to a centre forward role like Declan O'Sullivan in the absence of Sean O'Shea if he's rested? It would also mean kevin Mac could use to the corner forward position or full forward. I'm assuming Dara Moynihan, Tommy Walsh, Stephen O'Brien and Diarmuid O'Connor are all available? That makes for an amazing forward before you even add Conor Geaney, Michael Geaney, Gavin O'Brien and so on.
Midfield is an issue but I would suspect we stick with Jack Barry and Adrian Spillane with Moran coming in if needed. Tommy Walsh can fit in there as well. Is Brian OÓ Séanachain still available or involved?
Any word on Ó Beaglaíoch's one match suspension? Are we not repealing it?
So my time pick would be: Shane Ryan
Peter Crowley, Jack Sherwood (I hear he might not be fit so perhaps Marc Griffin will need to slot into the fullback line again) Shane Enright or Foley if Ó Beaglaíoch is not available (Full back line is still an issue for us. Is Foley still injured?) Tadhg Morley, Paul Murphy, Tom O’Sullivan Jack Barry, Adrian Spillane Diarmuid O’Connor, Paul Geaney, Dara Moynihan Kevin Mac, Gavin O'Brien, Stephen O’Brien
Subs: Brian Kelly Jonathan Lyne Michael Geaney Gavin Crowley Tommy Walsh Tomás Ó Sé Conor Geaney Graham O'Sullivan David Moran
That looks good enough to beat a Galway team missing a few players in my opinion with quite a strong bench. Gavin White and Michael Potts certainly needed in the panel from Crokes if we look at the backs available. If anything the training might help Potts to get a starting spot for Crokes or he might make the breakthrough for Kerry this or next year. It is strange though that the previous minor teams, U20 teams and Junior teams haven't supplied us with a wealth of midfielders and defenders. Perhaps Okunbor and O'Connor will come back home if Kerry do well this year.
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Post by dc84 on Feb 22, 2019 15:59:47 GMT
In fairness to geaney he has kicked some nice scores got two nice ones last day out. Dont think he can play anywhere but ff line tbh dont think he has the stamina the chasing back seems to take a lot out of him.
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Post by Deise Exile on Feb 22, 2019 18:43:38 GMT
this demise of Paul Geaney is greatly exaggerated ffs. i think its more down to the modern game (15 behind ball) and lack of space than anything else. he is in general playing well. Precisely.he got two great points against dublin
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Post by Chinatown on Feb 22, 2019 19:33:20 GMT
Heads up!
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Post by kerrygold on Feb 22, 2019 19:54:45 GMT
1 (GK) Shane Ryan Seán Ó Riain Rathmore 2 Peter Crowley Peadar Ó Cruadhlaoich Laune Rangers 3 Jack Sherwood Seán Sherwood Firies 4 Shane Enright Sean Mac Ionrachtaigh Tarbert 5 Gavin Crowley Gabhin Ó Crualaidh Templenoe 6 Paul Murphy Pól Ó Murchú Rathmore 7 Tom O'Sullivan Tomás Ó Súilleabháin Dingle 8 Jack Barry Jeaic de Barra Na Gaeil 9 Mark Griffin Marc Ó Grifín St Michaels/Foilmore 10 Diarmuid O'Connor Diarmuid Ó Conchúir Na Gaeil 11 Sean O'Shea Seán Ó Sé Kenmare 12 Gavin O'Brien Gabhin Ó Briain Kerins O'Rahillys 13 Dara Moynihan Dara Ó Muineacháin Spa Killarney 14 Tommy Walsh Tomás Breathnach Kerins O'Rahillys 15 Stephen O'Brien Stiofán Ó Briain Kenmare 16 (GK) Brian Kelly Brian Ó Ceallaigh Killarney Legion 17 Jonathan Lyne Ionatán Ó Leighin Killarney Legion 18 Michael Geaney Micheál Ó Geibheannaigh Dingle 19 Tadhg Morley Tadhg Ó Muraile Templenoe 20 Kevin McCarthy Caoimhín Mac Cárthaigh Kilcummin 21 Graham O'Sullivan Graeme Ó Súilleabháin Piarsaigh na Dromoda 22 Conor Geaney Conchúir Ó Geibheannaigh Dingle 23 Tomás Ó Sé Tomás Ó Sé An Ghaeltacht 24 Jason Foley Iasún Ó Foghlú Ballydonoghue 25 Killian Spillane Cillian Ó Spealáin Templenoe 26 Denis Daly Donnchadh Ó Dálaigh St Mary's Caherciveen
Captains Name: Paul Murphy
Team Officials
Role Names (First & Surname)
Bainisteoir Peter Keane (St Mary's)
Maor Fóirne / Roghnóir (1) Tommy Griffin (Dingle)
Roghnóir (2) Donie Buckley (Castleisland Desmonds)
Roghnóir (3) James Foley (Kilcummin)
Roghnóir (4) Maurice Fitzgerald (St Mary's)
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Post by greengold35 on Feb 22, 2019 19:55:15 GMT
I think Paul Geaney could benefit from a role around the half forwards instead of being the one who has to provide all the scores. Would he be suited to a centre forward role like Declan O'Sullivan in the absence of Sean O'Shea if he's rested? It would also mean kevin Mac could use to the corner forward position or full forward. I'm assuming Dara Moynihan, Tommy Walsh, Stephen O'Brien and Diarmuid O'Connor are all available? That makes for an amazing forward before you even add Conor Geaney, Michael Geaney, Gavin O'Brien and so on. Midfield is an issue but I would suspect we stick with Jack Barry and Adrian Spillane with Moran coming in if needed. Tommy Walsh can fit in there as well. Is Brian OÓ Séanachain still available or involved? Any word on Ó Beaglaíoch's one match suspension? Are we not repealing it? So my time pick would be: Shane Ryan Peter Crowley, Jack Sherwood (I hear he might not be fit so perhaps Marc Griffin will need to slot into the fullback line again) Shane Enright or Foley if Ó Beaglaíoch is not available (Full back line is still an issue for us. Is Foley still injured?) Tadhg Morley, Paul Murphy, Tom O’Sullivan Jack Barry, Adrian Spillane Diarmuid O’Connor, Paul Geaney, Dara Moynihan Kevin Mac, Gavin O'Brien, Stephen O’Brien Subs: Brian Kelly Jonathan Lyne Michael Geaney Gavin Crowley Tommy Walsh Tomás Ó Sé Conor Geaney Graham O'Sullivan David Moran That looks good enough to beat a Galway team missing a few players in my opinion with quite a strong bench. Gavin White and Michael Potts certainly needed in the panel from Crokes if we look at the backs available. If anything the training might help Potts to get a starting spot for Crokes or he might make the breakthrough for Kerry this or next year. It is strange though that the previous minor teams, U20 teams and Junior teams haven't supplied us with a wealth of midfielders and defenders. Perhaps Okunbor and O'Connor will come back home if Kerry do well this year. Tommy Walsh, if starting is best suited to full forward - not enough mobility for midfield; likewise, Gavin O’Brien’s best position would be in the half forward line, given Galways massed defence - we will need guys coming at pace through the middle to break the line. Kerry did not appeal O’Beaglaoich’s suspension - a break will do him no harm, hope it doesn’t come back to bite us down the road. Our lack of pace/mobility around the middle is worrying - wonder if Daniel O’Brien is on PK’s radar? He has strength, pace and a good engine - not your stereotypical midfielder but sometimes we have to think outside the box. Regarding O’Seanacháin - he was an unused sub for UCD this year, not in the current Kerry training panel.
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Post by Deise Exile on Feb 22, 2019 20:05:12 GMT
1 (GK) Shane Ryan Seán Ó Riain Rathmore 2 Peter Crowley Peadar Ó Cruadhlaoich Laune Rangers 3 Jack Sherwood Seán Sherwood Firies 4 Shane Enright Sean Mac Ionrachtaigh Tarbert 5 Gavin Crowley Gabhin Ó Crualaidh Templenoe 6 Paul Murphy Pól Ó Murchú Rathmore 7 Tom O'Sullivan Tomás Ó Súilleabháin Dingle 8 Jack Barry Jeaic de Barra Na Gaeil 9 Mark Griffin Marc Ó Grifín St Michaels/Foilmore 10 Diarmuid O'Connor Diarmuid Ó Conchúir Na Gaeil 11 Sean O'Shea Seán Ó Sé Kenmare 12 Gavin O'Brien Gabhin Ó Briain Kerins O'Rahillys 13 Dara Moynihan Dara Ó Muineacháin Spa Killarney 14 Tommy Walsh Tomás Breathnach Kerins O'Rahillys 15 Stephen O'Brien Stiofán Ó Briain Kenmare 16 (GK) Brian Kelly Brian Ó Ceallaigh Killarney Legion 17 Jonathan Lyne Ionatán Ó Leighin Killarney Legion 18 Michael Geaney Micheál Ó Geibheannaigh Dingle 19 Tadhg Morley Tadhg Ó Muraile Templenoe 20 Kevin McCarthy Caoimhín Mac Cárthaigh Kilcummin 21 Graham O'Sullivan Graeme Ó Súilleabháin Piarsaigh na Dromoda 22 Conor Geaney Conchúir Ó Geibheannaigh Dingle 23 Tomás Ó Sé Tomás Ó Sé An Ghaeltacht 24 Jason Foley Iasún Ó Foghlú Ballydonoghue 25 Killian Spillane Cillian Ó Spealáin Templenoe 26 Denis Daly Donnchadh Ó Dálaigh St Mary's Caherciveen Captains Name: Paul Murphy Team Officials Role Names (First & Surname) Bainisteoir Peter Keane (St Mary's) Maor Fóirne / Roghnóir (1) Tommy Griffin (Dingle) Roghnóir (2) Donie Buckley (Castleisland Desmonds) Roghnóir (3) James Foley (Kilcummin) Roghnóir (4) Maurice Fitzgerald (St Mary's) Very exciting selection. Delighted with Mark Griffin midfield
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2019 20:13:33 GMT
Pity that Sean O Shea is playing again.
Jason Foley seems to have dropped down the pecking order.
I think that team will struggle to get scores and I expect Galway to edge a tight game.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Feb 22, 2019 20:20:29 GMT
1 (GK) Shane Ryan Seán Ó Riain Rathmore 2 Peter Crowley Peadar Ó Cruadhlaoich Laune Rangers 3 Jack Sherwood Seán Sherwood Firies 4 Shane Enright Sean Mac Ionrachtaigh Tarbert 5 Gavin Crowley Gabhin Ó Crualaidh Templenoe 6 Paul Murphy Pól Ó Murchú Rathmore 7 Tom O'Sullivan Tomás Ó Súilleabháin Dingle 8 Jack Barry Jeaic de Barra Na Gaeil 9 Mark Griffin Marc Ó Grifín St Michaels/Foilmore 10 Diarmuid O'Connor Diarmuid Ó Conchúir Na Gaeil 11 Sean O'Shea Seán Ó Sé Kenmare 12 Gavin O'Brien Gabhin Ó Briain Kerins O'Rahillys 13 Dara Moynihan Dara Ó Muineacháin Spa Killarney 14 Tommy Walsh Tomás Breathnach Kerins O'Rahillys 15 Stephen O'Brien Stiofán Ó Briain Kenmare 16 (GK) Brian Kelly Brian Ó Ceallaigh Killarney Legion 17 Jonathan Lyne Ionatán Ó Leighin Killarney Legion 18 Michael Geaney Micheál Ó Geibheannaigh Dingle 19 Tadhg Morley Tadhg Ó Muraile Templenoe 20 Kevin McCarthy Caoimhín Mac Cárthaigh Kilcummin 21 Graham O'Sullivan Graeme Ó Súilleabháin Piarsaigh na Dromoda 22 Conor Geaney Conchúir Ó Geibheannaigh Dingle 23 Tomás Ó Sé Tomás Ó Sé An Ghaeltacht 24 Jason Foley Iasún Ó Foghlú Ballydonoghue 25 Killian Spillane Cillian Ó Spealáin Templenoe 26 Denis Daly Donnchadh Ó Dálaigh St Mary's Caherciveen Captains Name: Paul Murphy Team Officials Role Names (First & Surname) Bainisteoir Peter Keane (St Mary's) Maor Fóirne / Roghnóir (1) Tommy Griffin (Dingle) Roghnóir (2) Donie Buckley (Castleisland Desmonds) Roghnóir (3) James Foley (Kilcummin) Roghnóir (4) Maurice Fitzgerald (St Mary's) I hope Sean O Shea is rested, i really think the lad deserves a weekend off.
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Post by Mickmack on Feb 22, 2019 20:45:55 GMT
Maybe SOS is like Jacko. Able to play week in week out all year round without a bother.
David Clifford put his injury last spring down to playing too many games in a short space of time.
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Post by pillar on Feb 22, 2019 21:58:14 GMT
Heard Paul Geaney had a minor operation on some issue he was having!!
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Feb 22, 2019 22:28:27 GMT
Pity that Sean O Shea is playing again. Jason Foley seems to have dropped down the pecking order. I think that team will struggle to get scores and I expect Galway to edge a tight game. Foley was injured, no? He is our top inside back I thought... unless Enright comes back strong.
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Post by kerrygold on Feb 22, 2019 22:47:37 GMT
Maybe SOS is like Jacko. Able to play week in week out all year round without a bother. David Clifford put his injury last spring down to playing too many games in a short space of time. They probably will asses SOS on Sunday before calling it. DC was a much younger player just out of minor with no senior county conditioning done last year and shouldn't have been over played.
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Post by kerrygold on Feb 22, 2019 22:53:24 GMT
I see McQuillan is down to ref this one...........FS.
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Post by colinsworth1 on Feb 22, 2019 23:18:13 GMT
Pity that Sean O Shea is playing again. Jason Foley seems to have dropped down the pecking order. I think that team will struggle to get scores and I expect Galway to edge a tight game. Foley was injured, no? He is our top inside back I thought... unless Enright comes back strong. Good to see these two good north Kerry men back but the jury is still out on both too early for the superlatives yet . I’m not convinced Foley is a full back at this level maybe a better 6 or 8 or 9 but would need work there as he seems to have be pigeon holed at 3 for a long time Exciting to see mark griffin getting the rope he so desperately seeks now watch who’s midfield goes on the defense for a welcome change .Delighted for Mark and Kerry but our heir apparent for lar Na pairce has to be Gavan O Brien what a prospect it must be killing PK to be holding him back but he’s our “ great white hope” when he eventually and gradually get s fitter.
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Post by Hicser on Feb 22, 2019 23:22:06 GMT
Very exciting selection, great to see Tommy starting, I’d expect a strong showing and s fourth win. I’ll be interested to see how Griffin goes in Midfield, really looking forward to that,
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Post by Hicser on Feb 22, 2019 23:22:23 GMT
Very exciting selection, great to see Tommy starting, I’d expect a strong showing and s fourth win. I’ll be interested to see how Griffin goes in Midfield, really looking forward to that,
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Feb 23, 2019 0:05:47 GMT
Heads up! Adare is already packed. I've had a tour today and the town is already buzzing for Sunday. The Cork crowd will come up via Rourke's cross and the Charleville/Buttevant route while many of the Limerick supporters will also travel up the same route, all culminating near Adare. Expect delays. Perhaps the coastal route via Askeaton and Glin will be better
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Post by Mickmack on Feb 23, 2019 7:23:47 GMT
by Mortimer Murphy
Kerry manager Peter Keane has a simple mantra in terms of developing and nurturing new talent.
“What we are trying to do is getting players to play for Kerry for the first time or very early in their careers. You are then trying to get them not to just play for Kerry but deliver for Kerry.
“Fellows are putting up their hands and ultimately that is all we can ask for. It means that when we sit down to pick teams, we have more choices and more headaches.”
It’s an approach that has served the new regime well, as the Kingdom boasts a perfect record from three games this spring, including a victory over Dublin early this month. And he made no secret of his delight about how the side coped with both the opposition and the occasion.
“What pleased me most is that the lads went out into what was a cauldron, there is no question about it, there was a tremendous atmosphere. They did not back down from it, they embraced it and they went about their business in the best possible way they could.
“Yes, it was tight enough near the end as the legs were tiring but we stayed the course. I know ( Dublin) were after getting four points to get them back to level the contest but prior to that we had a few opportunities that we should have possibly taken to get ahead even more ahead.
But we stayed calm, remained cool and kept chipping away, got the winner and that was very pleasing. One of the big things we have been working towards is increasing the work rate around the field and I think that is happening so we are happy with that.
Kerry already have a settled look about them with Keane keeping changes to a minimium from game to game. An the manager admits that there is a logic to such an approach: “If you are trying to put any structure together in terms of a team, you have to give them the confidence they get from playing with each other and familiarise themselves with each other. Now some of that has been forced upon us by the fact that we have had so many games going on with colleges and injuries and stuff like that. But thus far we have been reasonably happy with what has been put out”
Despite having full points after three games Keane refuses to talk about qualifying for a league final later next month.
“I will go back to what I said last November at my first media briefing, the ambition remains the same. We are using the league as a learning curve but we are not sure where we are just yet.
“You can say we have three wins but we still do not know where we are at. It’s a young team and with a young team, you can have highs and lows. You saw a good performance in Killarney against Tyrone, we had a poor first half against Cavan, so you will find troughs along the way so we are going game-by-game and seeing how we get on.”
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Post by Mickmack on Feb 23, 2019 7:27:01 GMT
Heard Paul Geaney had a minor operation on some issue he was having!! Interesting news. He didn't look agile in the league games this year
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Post by Chinatown on Feb 23, 2019 11:45:18 GMT
Heard Paul Geaney had a minor operation on some issue he was having!! Interesting news. He didn't look agile in the league games this year Looked like he had an issue with bending down, back?
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Post by homerj on Feb 23, 2019 13:03:16 GMT
im not one bit excited about that team selection, cant see any spread of scores in that forward line at all - we basically have 5 workers plus Seanie and he may not even play.
maybe the team is picked to suit galways defensive style and we will win a low scoring game. but its not going to be pretty at all.
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Post by greengold35 on Feb 23, 2019 14:04:21 GMT
im not one bit excited about that team selection, cant see any spread of scores in that forward line at all - we basically have 5 workers plus Seanie and he may not even play. maybe the team is picked to suit galways defensive style and we will win a low scoring game. but its not going to be pretty at all. Tommy in for Paul G is the only change from the starting sextet that played Dublin - Seán O’Shea will in all probability be the top scorer but Moynihan, Stephen & Gavin O’Brien plus Tommy when he came on all got on the scoresheet. Personally, happy enough with the selection.
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Post by pillar on Feb 23, 2019 20:57:36 GMT
We're top now on scoring difference after Mayos defeat to Dublin.To a lot of informed people Mayo are the big threat to Dublin 5 in a row.On tonight's evidence there a mile off. Multiple wides and no punch.
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Post by Jo90 on Feb 23, 2019 21:14:36 GMT
by Mortimer Murphy Kerry manager Peter Keane has a simple mantra in terms of developing and nurturing new talent. “What we are trying to do is getting players to play for Kerry for the first time or very early in their careers. You are then trying to get them not to just play for Kerry but deliver for Kerry. They had the wrong Keane in the Irish soccer setup! Peter would have made sure Rice would have gotten an early competitive cap!
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