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Post by dc84 on Jan 23, 2019 9:56:48 GMT
What ever about winning All Irelands staying in Division 1 is imperative and to be honest I can't understand where all this talk about patience and giving team and management time to settle in is about the kerry panel at the moment is basically the same as what was there last year and previous years bar Diarmuid O Connor and Gavin O Brien and the management should be very familiar with the players that have come out of minor. Having listened to PK interviews it sounds his already getting his excuses in before a ball is kicked. I was at the Laois game and the way they physically blew us away is again very worrying. You really have to admire John sugrue in the way he has developed this bunch of players and it's a shame he was never seriously considered for the kerry job I wont lose sleep if Kerry get relegated this year if they lose games while fighting tooth and nail, finish the league with a well defined kickout strategy and about 10 new lads are realistic starters for the championship. Mayo were a shambles in last years league and avoided relegation. Kildare fought manfully in all league games even though they lost them all. Kildare were in better shape than Mayo in the round robin. Have to agree if we find 3/4 new lads up to the level and are as competitive as we can be ie 100pc effort and dont give up then the position is irrelavant. The way (i hope) we are going to play ie fast footpassing based utilising our very skilful players is more suited to summer weather anyway.
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Post by peanuts on Jan 23, 2019 10:03:28 GMT
What ever about winning All Irelands staying in Division 1 is imperative and to be honest I can't understand where all this talk about patience and giving team and management time to settle in is about the kerry panel at the moment is basically the same as what was there last year and previous years bar Diarmuid O Connor and Gavin O Brien and the management should be very familiar with the players that have come out of minor. Having listened to PK interviews it sounds his already getting his excuses in before a ball is kicked. I was at the Laois game and the way they physically blew us away is again very worrying. You really have to admire John sugrue in the way he has developed this bunch of players and it's a shame he was never seriously considered for the kerry job I wont lose sleep if Kerry get relegated this year if they lose games while fighting tooth and nail, finish the league with a well defined kickout strategy and about 10 new lads are realistic starters for the championship. Mayo were a shambles in last years league and avoided relegation. Kildare fought manfully in all league games even though they lost them all. Kildare were in better shape than Mayo in the round robin. We tend to forget that we had 6 or 7 lads in the game against Cork last year who were making their championship debut, it's hard to see how we could have more than 2 or 3 new faces this year come championship.
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Post by peanuts on Jan 23, 2019 10:09:59 GMT
I wont lose sleep if Kerry get relegated this year if they lose games while fighting tooth and nail, finish the league with a well defined kickout strategy and about 10 new lads are realistic starters for the championship. Mayo were a shambles in last years league and avoided relegation. Kildare fought manfully in all league games even though they lost them all. Kildare were in better shape than Mayo in the round robin. We tend to forget that we had 6 or 7 lads in the game against Cork last year who were making their championship debut, it's hard to see how we could have more than 2 or 3 new faces this year come championship. Sorry, I meant against Clare last year and not Cork. Starting team that day which included 7 making their championship debut (in bold) 1 Shane Murphy (Captain) Dr. Crokes2 Jason Foley Ballydonoghue3 Peter Crowley Laune Rangers 4 Ronan Shanahan Austin Stacks
5 Paul Murphy Rathmore 6 Tadhg Morley Templenoe 7 Gavin White Dr Crokes8 David Moran Kerins O’Rahillys 9 Jack Barry Na Gaeil 10 Micheál Burns Dr. Crokes11 Seán O’Shea Kenmare 12 Stephen O’Brien Kenmare 13 David Clifford Fossa14 Paul Geaney Dingle 15 James O’Donoghue Killarney Legion Fir Ionaid: 16 Brian Kelly Killarney Legion 17 Kieran Donaghy Austin Stacks 18 Brian Ó Beaglaoich An Ghaeltacht 19 Barry John Keane Kerins O’Rahillys 20 Darran O’Sullivan Glenbeigh/Glencar 21 Anthony Maher Duagh 22 Mark Griffin St Michaels/ Foilmore 23 Mikey Geaney Dingle 24 Kevin McCarthy Kilcummin 25 Fionn Fitzgerald Dr Crokes 26 Gavin Crowley Templenoe Read more: kerrygaa.proboards.com/thread/6950/msfc-final-kerry-clare-sunday?page=7#ixzz5dQLKRn00
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Post by dc84 on Jan 23, 2019 12:23:14 GMT
We tend to forget that we had 6 or 7 lads in the game against Cork last year who were making their championship debut, it's hard to see how we could have more than 2 or 3 new faces this year come championship. Sorry, I meant against Clare last year and not Cork. Starting team that day which included 7 making their championship debut (in bold) 1 Shane Murphy (Captain) Dr. Crokes2 Jason Foley Ballydonoghue3 Peter Crowley Laune Rangers 4 Ronan Shanahan Austin Stacks
5 Paul Murphy Rathmore 6 Tadhg Morley Templenoe 7 Gavin White Dr Crokes8 David Moran Kerins O’Rahillys 9 Jack Barry Na Gaeil 10 Micheál Burns Dr. Crokes11 Seán O’Shea Kenmare 12 Stephen O’Brien Kenmare 13 David Clifford Fossa14 Paul Geaney Dingle 15 James O’Donoghue Killarney Legion Fir Ionaid: 16 Brian Kelly Killarney Legion 17 Kieran Donaghy Austin Stacks 18 Brian Ó Beaglaoich An Ghaeltacht 19 Barry John Keane Kerins O’Rahillys 20 Darran O’Sullivan Glenbeigh/Glencar 21 Anthony Maher Duagh 22 Mark Griffin St Michaels/ Foilmore 23 Mikey Geaney Dingle 24 Kevin McCarthy Kilcummin 25 Fionn Fitzgerald Dr Crokes 26 Gavin Crowley Templenoe Read more: kerrygaa.proboards.com/thread/6950/msfc-final-kerry-clare-sunday?page=7#ixzz5dQLKRn00 Throw in tom sullivan aswell , fitzy did Pk A great service by giving them boys the start last year. All of whom acquitted themselves well if we bed them in and find 3/4 more that would be some turnover in 2 years 10/11 new players!
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Post by onlykerry on Jan 23, 2019 12:42:22 GMT
I make it 13 of the 26 involved in the opening championship squad from 2018 that are not available for the Tyrone game - 3 with Crokes, 6 off the panel, 3 injured and one only back from his honeymoon (I may be overcounting at that). And we all acknowledge that the Clare squad was a major transition to begin with - highlights the job that PK has ahead of him for the league and remembering that come championship all will be forgiven for a decent run in that competition.
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Post by Tadhgeen on Jan 23, 2019 12:56:14 GMT
I make it 13 of the 26 involved in the opening championship squad from 2018 that are not available for the Tyrone game - 3 with Crokes, 6 off the panel, 3 injured and one only back from his honeymoon (I may be overcounting at that). And we all acknowledge that the Clare squad was a major transition to begin with - highlights the job that PK has ahead of him for the league and remembering that come championship all will be forgiven for a decent run in that competition. Who are the six off the panel...........Shanahan, BJ Keane, J Savage, Fionn Fitz.....? Is there any way back for them?
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jan 23, 2019 13:16:34 GMT
What ever about winning All Irelands staying in Division 1 is imperative and to be honest I can't understand where all this talk about patience and giving team and management time to settle in is about the kerry panel at the moment is basically the same as what was there last year and previous years bar Diarmuid O Connor and Gavin O Brien and the management should be very familiar with the players that have come out of minor. Having listened to PK interviews it sounds his already getting his excuses in before a ball is kicked. I was at the Laois game and the way they physically blew us away is again very worrying. You really have to admire John sugrue in the way he has developed this bunch of players and it's a shame he was never seriously considered for the kerry job I wont lose sleep if Kerry get relegated this year if they lose games while fighting tooth and nail, finish the league with a well defined kickout strategy and about 10 new lads are realistic starters for the championship. Mayo were a shambles in last years league and avoided relegation. Kildare fought manfully in all league games even though they lost them all. Kildare were in better shape than Mayo in the round robin.What is the round robin?
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jan 23, 2019 13:19:21 GMT
Personally, I will be mightily depressed if Dublin do the five in a row.
But at the same time I am not expecting much by way of results from the Kerry team this year. I believe they need some space.
It is a shame that Dublin are trying to do this in a year that Kerry will be finding their feet. Hopefully somebody else beats them: the alternative in my mind is that they are greater than the Golden Years team.
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Post by dc84 on Jan 23, 2019 13:24:30 GMT
Making a semi come championship would be a great achievement imo, assuming we go front door we will have ulster champs, one of mayo/galway you would imagine and meath/laois or whoever beats them not easy!
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Post by Sam kerry on Jan 23, 2019 14:26:00 GMT
How many on kerry panel are eligible for u 20 ?
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Post by Mickmack on Jan 23, 2019 15:54:47 GMT
I wont lose sleep if Kerry get relegated this year if they lose games while fighting tooth and nail, finish the league with a well defined kickout strategy and about 10 new lads are realistic starters for the championship. Mayo were a shambles in last years league and avoided relegation. Kildare fought manfully in all league games even though they lost them all. Kildare were in better shape than Mayo in the round robin.What is the round robin? A more inaccurate name is the super 8!
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Post by Mickmack on Jan 23, 2019 15:56:10 GMT
Personally, I will be mightily depressed if Dublin do the five in a row. But at the same time I am not expecting much by way of results from the Kerry team this year. I believe they need some space. It is a shame that Dublin are trying to do this in a year that Kerry will be finding their feet. Hopefully somebody else beats them: the alternative in my mind is that they are greater than the Golden Years team. so would you prefer Dublin to win 5inarow in 2019 or Mayo to end their house of pain agony in 2019.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jan 23, 2019 16:06:18 GMT
A more inaccurate name is the super 8! Mayo weren't in the Super 8s. Hence my confusion.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jan 23, 2019 16:08:06 GMT
Personally, I will be mightily depressed if Dublin do the five in a row. But at the same time I am not expecting much by way of results from the Kerry team this year. I believe they need some space. It is a shame that Dublin are trying to do this in a year that Kerry will be finding their feet. Hopefully somebody else beats them: the alternative in my mind is that they are greater than the Golden Years team. so would you prefer Dublin to win 5inarow in 2019 or Mayo to end their house of pain agony in 2019. Oh Mayo definitely. Although I'd give Tyrone, Monaghan, and Donegal better chances than Mayo.
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Post by taibhse on Jan 23, 2019 16:38:47 GMT
David Gough is the referee on Sunday.
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Post by dc84 on Jan 23, 2019 17:35:57 GMT
When will the twam be out i wonder thursday evening? Cant remember what way PK used to do it for the minors
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Post by pillar on Jan 23, 2019 17:52:27 GMT
When will the twam be out i wonder thursday evening? Cant remember what way PK used to do it for the minors Friday 8pm on Kerry GAA Website
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Post by onlykerry on Jan 23, 2019 17:52:40 GMT
I make it 13 of the 26 involved in the opening championship squad from 2018 that are not available for the Tyrone game - 3 with Crokes, 6 off the panel, 3 injured and one only back from his honeymoon (I may be overcounting at that). And we all acknowledge that the Clare squad was a major transition to begin with - highlights the job that PK has ahead of him for the league and remembering that come championship all will be forgiven for a decent run in that competition. Who are the six off the panel...........Shanahan, BJ Keane, J Savage, Fionn Fitz.....? Is there any way back for them? I grouped retirees and released into "off the panel" - Savage was not in the Clare 26 but Donaghy, Maher & Darren were and make up the six with Shanahan, BJK & Fionn
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Post by buck02 on Jan 23, 2019 18:08:24 GMT
David Gough is the referee on Sunday. I better sharpen my programme so
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Jan 23, 2019 19:32:41 GMT
How many on kerry panel are eligible for u 20 ? Diarmuid O'Connor and Michael Potts.
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Post by yellowbelly on Jan 23, 2019 21:59:54 GMT
How many on kerry panel are eligible for u 20 ? Diarmuid O'Connor and Michael Potts. And David Clifford!! This is the 2017 Minor team which one would assume will be the backbone of the U20s this year 1. Deividas Uosis (Dingle) 2. Sean O’Leary (Kilcummin) 3. Chris O’Donoghue (Glenflesk) 4. Cian Gammell (Killarney Legion) 5. Patrick Warren (Gneeveguilla) 6. Michael Potts (Dr Crokes) 7. Niall Donohue (Firies) 8. Barry Mahony (St Senans) 9. Diarmuid O’Connor (Na Gaeil) 10. Adam Donoghue (Castleisland Desmonds) 11. David Clifford (Fossa – captain) 12. Donal O’Sullivan (Kilgarvan) 13. Fiáchra Clifford (Laune Rangers) 14. Jack Griffin (Dr Crokes) 15. Brian Friel (Rathmore) Subs 18. Eddie Horan (Scartaglen) for Griffin (45) 17. Donnchadh O’Sullivan (Firies) for O’Sullivan (50) 19. Ciarán O’Reilly (Austin Stacks) for Fiachra Clifford (52) 22. Michael O’Leary (Renard) for Gammell (58) 20. Ryan O’Neill (Na Gaeil) for Donohue (58) 21. Michael Slattery (Austin Stacks) for Donoghue (60)
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Post by kerrygold on Jan 24, 2019 9:21:38 GMT
100 days done, but work’s just starting for Keane
By Tony Leen
He’s just passed his first 100 days in office, but for new Kerry manager Peter Keane, the real work is only beginning.
His coach Donie Buckley returned last week from a winter abroad, skilling up; new goalkeeping coach Brendan Kealy has joined the backroom team; and the county’s new head of athletic development, Jason McGahan, is getting his feet under the table and his programmes in place from his new base at the GAA Centre of Excellence in Currans.
There are two new physios, promoted from the minor set-up, and a new logistics man in Colm Whelan. And that’s before the familiarisation process between player and management begins.
It’s all quite head-spinning for the manager, who deadpans that they’ve been “plodding along” quietly, without a McGrath Cup to road test any strategies or shapes.
Consequently, it’s a big ask for Keane’s Kerry to go from nought-to-sixty at 2pm on Sunday against a Tyrone side with a full McKenna Cup campaign behind them.
And no, Keane’s not getting excuses in early.
“I don’t really get hung up on a target (for the Division 1 campaign), but we want to perform with a bit of heart, for starters. I would hope we would play a nice, attacking, quick game, but whether we can get away with that I don’t know.
You play with whatever is there and available to us. We couldn’t really play in the McGrath Cup with it starting in December.
"We were faced with a decision to go chasing games or plan for the year ahead. We’ve been getting to know each other, putting in a bit of groundwork, mainly in the gym,” Keane explained.
At least he’s not dealing with the Kerry captaincy, which is in the gift of Dr Crokes, who will announce their choice once their All-Ireland club campaign is done. In the meantime, Keane said management will decide the captaincy on a game-by-game basis.
The difference in tempo between inter-county minor and senior duties is night and day, he agrees.
“The phone is busy all the time. There’s a lot more people coming up to you, but if I thought that was annoying, I’d be in a right pickle.
"If I think it’s stressful in January, I’m sure it will get a lot more as the year goes on. You have to embrace that, because if you don’t, you’re sunk.”
Kerry won’t have use of the Dr Crokes players — five of them in total — for a while yet and, though they’ve been in with the group, their football has been completely club- focused.
That, and other absentees, will demand precise load-balancing on those who are in the squad, with three games in 13 days coming up: Home to Tyrone this Sunday, away to Cavan, and then a Saturday night treat under lights at home to Dublin in Tralee.
“Tyrone, Dublin and Galway feature in our first four games, but the big thing is they will inform where we are at ourselves. Those fixtures mean you find that stuff out pretty quickly and, of course, it’s a challenge.
“The league is going to be a learning curve for us. Hopefully, we will get support for those home games. I’d love to think the Kerry supporters will come out and back us,” said Keane.
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Post by Fado on Jan 24, 2019 10:16:23 GMT
Tony Brosnan being left out is a shocker. Is it true? Don't understand him being left out, was one of the most impressive players I've seen last year.
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Post by jackiel on Jan 24, 2019 12:24:24 GMT
Didn't think I could make this one but convinced the hubby we needed a weekend away. I reckon Tyrone will test this inexperienced team but it will stand to them down the line. I'm not expecting big things this year but it's exciting to be starting a new year with a whole new group both players and backroom. Ciarraí abu.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jan 24, 2019 13:35:34 GMT
Tony Brosnan being left out is a shocker. Is it true? Don't understand him being left out, was one of the most impressive players I've seen last year. Maybe just being given some space with Crokes for now.
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Post by peanuts on Jan 24, 2019 13:54:25 GMT
so would you prefer Dublin to win 5inarow in 2019 or Mayo to end their house of pain agony in 2019. Oh Mayo definitely. Although I'd give Tyrone, Monaghan, and Donegal better chances than Mayo. Mayo are the only team that have gone toe to toe with Dublin in recent years. They may (or may not) be past their best but I'd still give them best chance of toppling the Dubs.
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Post by peanuts on Jan 24, 2019 13:55:00 GMT
Is it true? Don't understand him being left out, was one of the most impressive players I've seen last year. Maybe just being given some space with Crokes for now. Yeah, but 5 other Crokes players were named in the panel.
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Post by dc84 on Jan 24, 2019 16:01:11 GMT
Hopefully young Brosnan will make ot impossible to be left out over the next two games for crokes. Id hope PK is not tied 100pc to that panel, its not like you have to register lads. If he plays well enough im sure he would get a call up.
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Post by buck02 on Jan 25, 2019 9:42:40 GMT
Its difficult to see anything other than a Tyrone victory on Sunday. I think they will be too experienced and too physically strong for the side we will be sending out. Donie Buckley is only starting to work with the lads on the field now according to the article in the Examine yesterday so it'll probably be next summer before we see the fruits of that labour. Last year after the Mayo game in Castlebar, people got awful excited. Hopefully there will be no knee jerk reaction if things dont go well on Sunday,
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Post by dc84 on Jan 25, 2019 10:14:56 GMT
Its difficult to see anything other than a Tyrone victory on Sunday. I think they will be too experienced and too physically strong for the side we will be sending out. Donie Buckley is only starting to work with the lads on the field now according to the article in the Examine yesterday so it'll probably be next summer before we see the fruits of that labour. Last year after the Mayo game in Castlebar, people got awful excited. Hopefully there will be no knee jerk reaction if things dont go well on Sunday, Hope you are wrong but suspect you are right! A wholehearted performance playing the right way is all im looking for cant wait till sunday back on the o connor terrace drinking tae and looking up to the reeks and hopeing the boys in the green and gold can raise themselves to equal heights! Where else in the world would a true kerryman want to be!
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