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Post by greengold35 on Jan 19, 2019 12:27:26 GMT
This was the team that played ITT last weekend. Shane Ryan Peter Crowley Jack Sherwood Killian Young Paul Murphy Tom O’Sullivan Brian O’Beaglaoich Jack Barry Diarmuid O’Connor Mikey Geaney Sean O’Shea Jonathan Lyne Conor Geaney Paul Geaney Stephen O’Brien
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2019 12:37:48 GMT
With a 40 man panel, it is more about those not on it than those who are.
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Jan 19, 2019 13:55:53 GMT
So Peter Crowley, David Moran, David Clifford, Kevin McCarthy, Jason Foley and possibly Mark Griffin will be unavailable for Tyrone aswell as the Crokes contingent.
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Post by southward on Jan 19, 2019 14:38:34 GMT
Tony Brosnan being left out is a shocker.
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Post by peanuts on Jan 19, 2019 17:11:04 GMT
This was the team that played ITT last weekend. Shane Ryan Peter Crowley Jack Sherwood Killian Young Paul Murphy Tom O’Sullivan Brian O’Beaglaoich Jack Barry Diarmuid O’Connor Mikey Geaney Sean O’Shea Jonathan Lyne Conor Geaney Paul Geaney Stephen O’Brien That could be close enough to the team next week although I doubt the backs lined out as above. Would be a small & light half back line if they did. If Crowley is out then Morley or Gavin Crowley or Enright could come in.
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Post by piggott on Jan 19, 2019 17:12:42 GMT
This was the team that played ITT last weekend. Shane Ryan Peter Crowley Jack Sherwood Killian Young Paul Murphy Tom O’Sullivan Brian O’Beaglaoich Jack Barry Diarmuid O’Connor Mikey Geaney Sean O’Shea Jonathan Lyne Conor Geaney Paul Geaney Stephen O’Brien Looks like he is going with defensive minded half forwards in lyne and Mikey. Then again he has attack minded half backs in TOS and O Beaglaoich. Did Jameso get any game time?
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Jan 19, 2019 18:53:33 GMT
This was the team that played ITT last weekend. Shane Ryan Peter Crowley Jack Sherwood Killian Young Paul Murphy Tom O’Sullivan Brian O’Beaglaoich Jack Barry Diarmuid O’Connor Mikey Geaney Sean O’Shea Jonathan Lyne Conor Geaney Paul Geaney Stephen O’Brien Any idea who played well? Any Kerry lads playing with the IT?
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Post by gbbuei on Jan 19, 2019 20:34:59 GMT
This was the team that played ITT last weekend. Shane Ryan Peter Crowley Jack Sherwood Killian Young Paul Murphy Tom O’Sullivan Brian O’Beaglaoich Jack Barry Diarmuid O’Connor Mikey Geaney Sean O’Shea Jonathan Lyne Conor Geaney Paul Geaney Stephen O’Brien Jack Sherwood? Is he genuinely a serious contender this time round?
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Post by kerrygold on Jan 19, 2019 21:18:49 GMT
Very competitive game in Ulster tonight. Tyrone are in good shape and well conditioned for this time of the year. It won't be easy next weekend. Kerry will need to hit the ground galloping!
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Post by clarinman on Jan 19, 2019 23:21:38 GMT
This was the team that played ITT last weekend. Shane Ryan Peter Crowley Jack Sherwood Killian Young Paul Murphy Tom O’Sullivan Brian O’Beaglaoich Jack Barry Diarmuid O’Connor Mikey Geaney Sean O’Shea Jonathan Lyne Conor Geaney Paul Geaney Stephen O’Brien Jack Sherwood? Is he genuinely a serious contender this time round? Sherwood was very good for East Kerry in the county championship this year.
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Post by colinsworth1 on Jan 20, 2019 0:22:30 GMT
This was the team that played ITT last weekend. Shane Ryan Peter Crowley Jack Sherwood Killian Young Paul Murphy Tom O’Sullivan Brian O’Beaglaoich Jack Barry Diarmuid O’Connor Mikey Geaney Sean O’Shea Jonathan Lyne Conor Geaney Paul Geaney Stephen O’Brien Looks like he is going with defensive minded half forwards in lyne and Mikey. Then again he has attack minded half backs in TOS and O Beaglaoich. Did Jameso get any game time? Defensive. Half forwards. Yikes !!! Here we go again !! Is this another episode of Groundhog Day ? Joking aside. Fine players Jonathan and Mickey hoping this new management gives these lads Licence to attack If you are a 10 or a 12 surely you have to scare the opposing defense and be able to attack and score If Kerry think a potent two or three up front can do it on their own then this is classic Kerry Delusionary philosophy and way too easy to defend All 15 players need to be able to score yes even the corner back s and the goalkeeper.
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Post by taibhse on Jan 20, 2019 10:22:28 GMT
Kerry played Laois in the stadium yesterday. It was a very experimental event but I would say that the onlookers were ‘underwhelmed’ by what they witnessed. I didn’t keep the scores but Laois won with a bit to spare. There were a lot of changes made during the game and I’m not sure that I’m 100% accurate with the identity of all the new faces.
What struck me most was how easily Laois physically bossed our lads. At times it looked like men against boys and I would be worried about our prospects in the League if we can’t provide a bit more physicality.
The performance improved in the second half but was still lacked any cohesion. David O’Brien can be pleased with his showing and is a ‘find’. Diarmuid O’Connor did o.k. too and is on the right track. Jack Sherwood - I would say he will be part of the defense but I reserve judgment about the No. on his back. He is not a natural full back but maybe he is the best option at this stage. Killian went off with a nasty looking leg injury and I would be concerned.
This was the team and my ratings out of 10.
Shane Ryan. 7 Peter Crowley. 6 Jack Sherwood. 7 Killian Young. Inj. Brian Begley. 5 Paul Murphy. 6 Tom Sullivan. 7 Jack Barry. 6 Adrian Spillane. 6 Diarmuid O’Connor 7 Sean O’Shea 8 David O’Brien. 8 Thomás O’Sé 5 Paul Geaney. 6 Stephen O’Brien 7
Subs: Brian Kelly. 8 Shane Enright. 5 Tadgh Morley. 6 J. Lyne. 5 Killian Spillane. 5 Tommy Walshe. 8 Conor Geaney. 7 J. Donoghue. 7 Mikey Geaney 6 A few other lads got a shorter run.
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Post by A.N. Other on Jan 20, 2019 10:35:27 GMT
Kerry played Laois in the stadium yesterday. It was a very experimental event but I would say that the onlookers were ‘underwhelmed’ by what they witnessed. I didn’t keep the scores but Laois won with a bit to spare. There were a lot of changes made during the game and I’m not sure that I’m 100% accurate with the identity of all the new faces. What struck me most was how easily Laois physically bossed our lads. At times it looked like men against boys and I would be worried about our prospects in the League if we can’t provide a bit more physicality. The performance improved in the second half but was still lacked any cohesion. David O’Brien can be pleased with his showing and is a ‘find’. Diarmuid O’Connor did o.k. too and is on the right track. Jack Sherwood - I would say he will be part of the defense but I reserve judgment about the No. on his back. He is not a natural full back but maybe he is the best option at this stage. Killian went off with a nasty looking leg injury and I would be concerned. This was the team and my ratings out of 10. Shane Ryan. 7 Peter Crowley. 6 Jack Sherwood. 7 Killian Young. Inj. Brian Begley. 5 Paul Murphy. 6 Tom Sullivan. 7 Jack Barry. 6 Adrian Spillane. 6 Diarmuid O’Connor 7 Sean O’Shea 8 David O’Brien. 8 Thomás O’Sé 5 Paul Geaney. 6 Stephen O’Brien 7 Subs: Brian Kelly. 8 Shane Enright. 5 Tadgh Morley. 6 J. Lyne. 5 Killian Spillane. 5 Tommy Walshe. 8 Conor Geaney. 7 J. Donoghue. 7 Mikey Geaney 6 A few other lads got a shorter run. Who is David O Brien and what club does he play for?
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Post by taibhse on Jan 20, 2019 10:47:17 GMT
My mistake - Gavin O'Brien, Kerins O'Rahillys.
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Jan 20, 2019 17:17:49 GMT
Possible team to play Tyrone:
1. Shane Ryan 2. Tom Leo O'Sullivan 3. Tadhg Morley 4. Graham O'Sullivan 5. Gavin Crowley 6. Jack Sherwood 7. Tom O'Sullivan 8. Jack Barry 9. Mark Ryan 10. Paul Murphy 11. Sean O'Shea 12. Gavin O’Brien 13. Killian Spillane 14. Paul Geaney 15. James O'Donoghue
16. Brian Kelly 17. Stephen O'Brien 18. Diarmuid O'Connor 19. Shane Enright 20. Killian Young 21. Briain O'Beaglaoich 22. Michael Geaney 23. Tommy Walsh 24. Dara Moynihan 25. Conor Geaney 26. Rob Wharton
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Post by mossie on Jan 20, 2019 23:55:10 GMT
I see Tommy Walsh got a rating of 8
I asked this before but don't recall the answer! did Gavin O'Brien play minor\u21?
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Post by greengold35 on Jan 21, 2019 9:08:22 GMT
I see Tommy Walsh got a rating of 8 I asked this before but don't recall the answer! did Gavin O'Brien play minor\u21? No! O'Brien has not featured with Kerry at under age.
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Post by homerj on Jan 21, 2019 10:15:51 GMT
am i the only one thats a bit worried about the next few months?
seems keane isnt caring about staying up, which is a concern and shows a lack of ambition. the league over the last 4 or 5 years has been a huge baring on the championship and quite simply, we need to be in Division 1...and winning games.
also, its bizzare that we did not enter the mcgrath cup. tyrone have had some really tough games over the last few weeks and we are going in cold.
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Post by pillar on Jan 21, 2019 10:22:03 GMT
Key in the league is the start.If we beat Tyrone we go to Cavan with confidence ahead of Dublins visit.As regards taking the league seriously they have to because that's where you find out about the players you have.Injuries seem to be a big problem st the moment which may not be a bad thing.Last year we were crying out for fresh blood.Now well find out what we have.Think survival obviously depends on the start.
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Post by hurlingman on Jan 21, 2019 10:41:16 GMT
am i the only one thats a bit worried about the next few months? seems keane isnt caring about staying up, which is a concern and shows a lack of ambition. the league over the last 4 or 5 years has been a huge baring on the championship and quite simply, we need to be in Division 1...and winning games. also, its bizzare that we did not enter the mcgrath cup. tyrone have had some really tough games over the last few weeks and we are going in cold. He was interviewed over the weekend and said something along the lines to not being able to play in it but also said he wasn't sure where fellas were as they hadn't played much football. Tyrone looked to be in good shape at the weekend against Armagh
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Post by dc84 on Jan 21, 2019 10:49:51 GMT
heard from a fairly reputable gaa administrator they missed the date for registration( pre PK taking over) going to be a tough start id say Tyrone are a hard nut to crack at the best of times
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Post by Callitasitis on Jan 21, 2019 11:58:52 GMT
What ever about winning All Irelands staying in Division 1 is imperative and to be honest I can't understand where all this talk about patience and giving team and management time to settle in is about the kerry panel at the moment is basically the same as what was there last year and previous years bar Diarmuid O Connor and Gavin O Brien and the management should be very familiar with the players that have come out of minor. Having listened to PK interviews it sounds his already getting his excuses in before a ball is kicked. I was at the Laois game and the way they physically blew us away is again very worrying. You really have to admire John sugrue in the way he has developed this bunch of players and it's a shame he was never seriously considered for the kerry job
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Post by pillar on Jan 21, 2019 13:58:43 GMT
What ever about winning All Irelands staying in Division 1 is imperative and to be honest I can't understand where all this talk about patience and giving team and management time to settle in is about the kerry panel at the moment is basically the same as what was there last year and previous years bar Diarmuid O Connor and Gavin O Brien and the management should be very familiar with the players that have come out of minor. Having listened to PK interviews it sounds his already getting his excuses in before a ball is kicked. I was at the Laois game and the way they physically blew us away is again very worrying. You really have to admire John sugrue in the way he has developed this bunch of players and it's a shame he was never seriously considered for the kerry job Only January and not a ball kicked and you're negative already!!
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Post by Sons of Pitches on Jan 21, 2019 15:24:10 GMT
Only January and not a ball kicked and you're negative already!! This! Give the squad and management a chance to put their methods and gameplan into practice. I really hope we don't turn into a knee jerk fanbase. There may be low points over the course of this year but its a marathon not a sprint.
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Jan 21, 2019 17:50:56 GMT
We’re wasting our time even fielding a team this year.
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Post by Attacking Wing Back on Jan 22, 2019 18:47:34 GMT
What's wrong with a bit of opinion? As someone else has said previously only a few panel members are new to the scene entirely.
Nobody is expecting us to win the league but you can't just write it off either saying we are blooding a load of young lads. There has to be some plan in place. Kick out strategies, defensive plan, forwards etc all need to be road tested during the league as we will have no competitive game in Munster and won't have a clue what we have until we hit Croke Park of we are making changes for the sake of it in the league.
Start with the best 15 you have available to you or what you think your best 15 is. If a lad is going well enough in training to warrant taking someone's Jersey then fair enough. If a new player isn't performing well in training he is not going to transform all of a sudden if he gets on the pitch.
I am most intrested to see what Donie Buckley has done in the winter to rectify our terrible tackle technique. And what Peter and Tommy bring to the table in terms of sorting out a defence that has been shambolic at times. Also to see if our forward play has improved. It was poor during the league last year and when the heat came on in the big games in the super 8.
It's a massive year for JOD. If he gets a run during the league and produces then be could have a big year. Based on last year's performances we are looking to nail down a goalkeeper (even though I like Shane Murphy), full back, corner back, centre back, wing back, at least one midfield berth, wing forward, maybe centre forward depending on Seanie O Shea, and an inside forward slot.
It might seem like a load of lads we are looking for but based in the past few years the only people that are certain to start championship match for Kerry if their form keeps up are:
Jason Foley, Paul Murphy ( back or forward I don't know) Stephen O'Brien Clifford Sean O Shea Tom O Sullivan Paul Geaney if last year's form is a once off. He seemed to play well in the county championship.
I might have forgotten one or two
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Post by taibhse on Jan 22, 2019 19:59:30 GMT
I couldn’t agree more with you there. Most of us share our opinion having respect, understanding, and acceptance towards each other. Unfortunately, a few have problems with that if it doesn’t fit their worldview and who think that name-calling etc., constitutes legitimate debate.
I don’t think Donie Buckley has had much time with the group up to now. It will probably be a while yet before we will see any changes in that respect. We are all hoping that at least there will be some shape to how we defend and manage our own kick out ball. That would progress.
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Post by themanfromthewest on Jan 22, 2019 21:14:57 GMT
Would probably add Morley and Moran as definite starters if fit. Not sure about O’Brien I think he is far better utilised off the bench where his pace is an absolute nightmare for tired defenders, that’s arguably just as important as starting although it’s obviously disappointing for the player involved. He is certain to see significant game time in every match though.
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Post by ballhopper34 on Jan 22, 2019 21:30:10 GMT
Three wins should hold Div 1 status. I can see those three wins in our three away games...Cavan, Galway and Roscommon.
Has a team ever won all the away games and lost all the home games? Hopefully we can put that question aside on Sunday...but it could happen to Kerry this campaign.
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Post by Mickmack on Jan 22, 2019 23:16:37 GMT
What ever about winning All Irelands staying in Division 1 is imperative and to be honest I can't understand where all this talk about patience and giving team and management time to settle in is about the kerry panel at the moment is basically the same as what was there last year and previous years bar Diarmuid O Connor and Gavin O Brien and the management should be very familiar with the players that have come out of minor. Having listened to PK interviews it sounds his already getting his excuses in before a ball is kicked. I was at the Laois game and the way they physically blew us away is again very worrying. You really have to admire John sugrue in the way he has developed this bunch of players and it's a shame he was never seriously considered for the kerry job I wont lose sleep if Kerry get relegated this year if they lose games while fighting tooth and nail, finish the league with a well defined kickout strategy and about 10 new lads are realistic starters for the championship. Mayo were a shambles in last years league and avoided relegation. Kildare fought manfully in all league games even though they lost them all. Kildare were in better shape than Mayo in the round robin.
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