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Post by ciarrailar on Nov 19, 2018 20:24:30 GMT
Are you sure you weren't in South Kerry Ciarrailar. Because I was in dingle and your account is not what I saw. You really think Paul Geaney should have got black. Dingle were superior but the ref kept it interesting with some bizarre calls. One against Mathhew Flaherty at end was mind boggling. Surprise to see such an inexperienced ref get the final. I was at Dromid Skellig Saturday and Paul Hayes top class as from reports was Brendan Griffin down south yesterday. Mikie Geaney in particular seemed to draw the wrath of referee from start. It seemed from the offollowing the ref wasn't going to allow Dingle stroll to victory. However credit to Annascaul with limited resources to put themselves in position to take advantage of those calls. 100% Paul Geaney deserved to go. He deliberately tripped his man after the ball was played away. Deliberate trip is a black card offence as I recall. I saw it clear as day as did the two lads with me. Geaney was having a fine match and causing a lot of consternation but to do something like that was madness on his behalf. I don’t recall the Matthew Flaherty incident you’ve mentioned but Matthew got away with a lot of holding yesterday from what I saw and the ref I think booked him in the end (open to correction on that though). I’ve just watched the game again on YouTube just to make sure I was at the same match.... Mikie Geaney had the grand total of one free awarded against him I think. Hardly drawing the wrath. Says enough about the commentary above. I suggest anyone in doubt about the quality of the match to watch it in its entirety. A brilliant game, end to end stuff. Credit to both teams for the display!
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Post by ciarrailar on Nov 19, 2018 20:29:04 GMT
Are you from Dingle by any chance? Lol I'm well east of dingle. Completely neutral. To say yesterday ref had balls to send off anow innocent player is mentally insane. I've seen refs in kerry send off big names Eg. Paul Hayes David Clifford, Brendan Griffin Colm Cooper Tom Mccarthy Darragh Sean. So to say yesterday's ref is only ref to send off big names is false. I think Ciarrai Lar should send us on a box of whatever as we all coud do with it. A now innocent player.... because you say he was innocent? Nobody said he was the only ref to send off big names. You’re making stuff up to suit your argument and quite frankly it’s tiresome at this stage. By the by, David Clifford was sent off after Paul Hayes consulted with his linesman who coincidentally was yesterday’s referee.....
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Post by champer on Nov 19, 2018 20:55:28 GMT
Just looked at the video on youtube. How any referee could give a black card for that is just mind blowing.
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Post by goonised on Nov 19, 2018 21:55:11 GMT
I'm well east of dingle. Completely neutral. To say yesterday ref had balls to send off anow innocent player is mentally insane. I've seen refs in kerry send off big names Eg. Paul Hayes David Clifford, Brendan Griffin Colm Cooper Tom Mccarthy Darragh Sean. So to say yesterday's ref is only ref to send off big names is false. I think Ciarrai Lar should send us on a box of whatever as we all coud do with it. A now innocent player.... because you say he was innocent? Nobody said he was the only ref to send off big names. You’re making stuff up to suit your argument and quite frankly it’s tiresome at this stage. By the by, David Clifford was sent off after Paul Hayes consulted with his linesman who coincidentally was yesterday’s referee..... The same man that informed ref about Jerry Sulivan and got him sent off.game is on you tube. Look at two calls at end to try and draw it on matti Flaherty and gavin Curran. Laugh
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Post by ciarrailar on Nov 19, 2018 22:34:48 GMT
I’ve watched the full game on YouTube again and your commentary is shameful. Methinks you’re a troll. Good night.
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Post by richard00 on Nov 19, 2018 22:40:55 GMT
Not the biggest fan of billy shea but watched the game there and he reffed the game very well could easily have given Annascaul a free to level the game if he was so biased but he wasn’t
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Nov 19, 2018 22:44:41 GMT
I must say from the YouTube footage it was not a black card. The ref was closer however but perhaps he saw something that didn't actually happen.
For years the O Sés used get away with murder in West Kerry games it was comical.
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Post by Mickmack on Nov 19, 2018 22:46:57 GMT
The refs view is obviously better than the camera angle
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Post by givehimaball on Nov 19, 2018 22:51:18 GMT
If you slow down the speed of the video to a quarter speed, it's very obvious it was a trip as you can clearly see Paul's foot sweep across the opposition player and trip him.
100% a black card.
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Post by goonised on Nov 19, 2018 22:53:02 GMT
I’ve watched the full game on YouTube again and your commentary is shameful. Methinks you’re a troll. Good night. A Troll? ? Another point throw in ball between two players at end and 3rd man contests; what's the rule on that. Likewise annascaul taking 14 yard free at end and they have player nearly on line. Again not allowed. Assessor wouldn't be be happy with that
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2018 23:01:40 GMT
I can’t for the life of me see a black card there for Geaney - terrible decision to be honest
From scanning through the video there was a lot of inconsistent refereeing going on - the crowd were very vocal in their displeasure at some decisions especially towards the end and that is usually a good indicator
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Post by ciarrailar on Nov 19, 2018 23:05:39 GMT
I’ve watched the full game on YouTube again and your commentary is shameful. Methinks you’re a troll. Good night. A Troll? ? Another point throw in ball between two players at end and 3rd man contests; what's the rule on that. Likewise annascaul taking 14 yard free at end and they have player nearly on line. Again not allowed. Assessor wouldn't be be happy with that I’m not here to defend the ref. I put up the forum to give some coverage to what I thought was an excellent match. My OPINION is that the ref and his officials had a very good game. This had the potential to be a powder keg as neither team holds back, nor should they in championship. I came home very satisfied that the journey West was well worth the diesel. You seem intent on putting the referee down which is entirely unfair. It’s a game of opinions, no doubt about that but mine is that he had a fine game and I’m sure when neutrals look at the footage they’ll agree. For the Geaney incident, the refs view is side on whereas the camera is looking straight down the incident. I was side on at pitch level and could clearly see Geaney tripping... end of.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2018 23:08:02 GMT
A Troll? ? Another point throw in ball between two players at end and 3rd man contests; what's the rule on that. Likewise annascaul taking 14 yard free at end and they have player nearly on line. Again not allowed. Assessor wouldn't be be happy with that I’m not here to defend the ref. I put up the forum to give some coverage to what I thought was an excellent match. My OPINION is that the ref and his officials had a very good game. This had the potential to be a powder keg as neither team holds back, nor should they in championship. I came home very satisfied that the journey West was well worth the diesel. You seem intent on putting the referee down which is entirely unfair. It’s a game of opinions, no doubt about that but mine is that he had a fine game and I’m sure when neutrals look at the footage they’ll agree. For the Geaney incident, the refs view is side on whereas the camera is looking straight down the incident. I was side on at pitch level and could clearly see Geaney tripping... end of. You seem to have been everywhere for all the key decisions Billy - I mean Ciarrai Lar :-)
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Post by ciarrailar on Nov 19, 2018 23:14:28 GMT
I’m not here to defend the ref. I put up the forum to give some coverage to what I thought was an excellent match. My OPINION is that the ref and his officials had a very good game. This had the potential to be a powder keg as neither team holds back, nor should they in championship. I came home very satisfied that the journey West was well worth the diesel. You seem intent on putting the referee down which is entirely unfair. It’s a game of opinions, no doubt about that but mine is that he had a fine game and I’m sure when neutrals look at the footage they’ll agree. For the Geaney incident, the refs view is side on whereas the camera is looking straight down the incident. I was side on at pitch level and could clearly see Geaney tripping... end of. You seem to have been everywhere for all the key decisions Billy - I mean Ciarrai Lar :-) Lol only two key decisions in the game really. Geaney black and Shane Foley black. admittedly Geaney’s isn’t as easy to see in the video with the angle but side on it was v clear. Shane Foley one was a rugby tackle to be fair lol
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Post by culbaire on Nov 19, 2018 23:24:13 GMT
It’s great to see such a great discussion about the actual football played on Sunday 🙄 Fair play to Annascaul for putting it up to dingle and very nearly causing a big upset.
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Post by goonised on Nov 19, 2018 23:28:45 GMT
A Troll? ? Another point throw in ball between two players at end and 3rd man contests; what's the rule on that. Likewise annascaul taking 14 yard free at end and they have player nearly on line. Again not allowed. Assessor wouldn't be be happy with that I’m not here to defend the ref. I put up the forum to give some coverage to what I thought was an excellent match. My OPINION is that the ref and his officials had a very good game. This had the potential to be a powder keg as neither team holds back, nor should they in championship. I came home very satisfied that the journey West was well worth the diesel. You seem intent on putting the referee down which is entirely unfair. It’s a game of opinions, no doubt about that but mine is that he had a fine game and I’m sure when neutrals look at the footage they’ll agree. For the Geaney incident, the refs view is side on whereas the camera is looking straight down the incident. I was side on at pitch level and could clearly see Geaney tripping... end of. Looks like you were playing or very close to action
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Post by ciarrailar on Nov 19, 2018 23:52:03 GMT
It’s great to see such a great discussion about the actual football played on Sunday 🙄 Fair play to Annascaul for putting it up to dingle and very nearly causing a big upset. Totally agree. Annascaul really but it up to them but in my opinion the better team won. There was only the bare minimum in it at the end and I certainly didn’t expect that heading back there. I thought Barry O’Sullivan had a fantastic game, really drove Dingle on from midfield and thoroughly deserved his man of the match award. Tom O’Sullivan was his usual self, he’s had some year in fairness! For Annascaul, Jason Hickson played well along with Cathay Ferriter but I thought James Crean gave the Dingle defence a run for their money with direct running. He did strike the crossbar though when it seemed easier to score. Would have been some finish had that gone in!
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Post by ciarrailar on Nov 20, 2018 0:00:21 GMT
A now innocent player.... because you say he was innocent? Nobody said he was the only ref to send off big names. You’re making stuff up to suit your argument and quite frankly it’s tiresome at this stage. By the by, David Clifford was sent off after Paul Hayes consulted with his linesman who coincidentally was yesterday’s referee..... The same man that informed ref about Jerry Sulivan and got him sent off.game is on you tube. Look at two calls at end to try and draw it on matti Flaherty and gavin Curran. LaughOut of interest I just looked at these... Matthew Flaherty took 10 steps by my count and was blown for overcarrying..... Gavin Curran puts the ball down, whistle goes for restart and 15 seconds later he still hasn’t kicked it. Refs blows for time wasting.... your arguement is?
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Post by culbaire on Nov 20, 2018 0:15:08 GMT
It’s great to see such a great discussion about the actual football played on Sunday 🙄 Fair play to Annascaul for putting it up to dingle and very nearly causing a big upset. Totally agree. Annascaul really but it up to them but in my opinion the better team won. There was only the bare minimum in it at the end and I certainly didn’t expect that heading back there. I thought Barry O’Sullivan had a fantastic game, really drove Dingle on from midfield and thoroughly deserved his man of the match award. Tom O’Sullivan was his usual self, he’s had some year in fairness! For Annascaul, Jason Hickson played well along with Cathay Ferriter but I thought James Crean gave the Dingle defence a run for their money with direct running. He did strike the crossbar though when it seemed easier to score. Would have been some finish had that gone in! I also thought that Eoin curry did very well in full back for Annascaul before Paul had been black carded, James crean was very good in my opinion and is meant to be going very well with the college too. Gearoid Lyne aswell looks to be a great footballer very confident for a young lad. Barry is having a very good year in fairness and did a lot of work on Sunday, Mikey Geaney carried a lot of ball too but looked to be a bit p**sed off at times. I see Paul Quinn is sponsoring a west Kerry team of the year would anyone give a stab at naming there’s
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Post by ciarrailar on Nov 20, 2018 0:25:47 GMT
Billy you were a holy show. Did everything you could to make sure Dingle didn’t win the game yesterday. Absolutely comical officiating I don’t know where you were pulled from. I don’t even know where to start about the bad decisions. Paul Geaney black card? Tom O Sullivan running through the middle and gets absolutely butchered by 2 players around the neck and not 1 card shown, not one bit of interest in player safety.. Hop ball as soon as Gavin Curran puts the balll down for the kick out for taking too long apparently. You couldn’t write what Billy O Shea did yesterday, an absolute farce. Very rare you see a team win a final and still give out about the referee. Think you should probably ring him and let him know. Don’t think personalizing things like that on here is the way to go.
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Post by pluto on Nov 20, 2018 1:56:42 GMT
This is a disgrace and a farce. Billy o Shea is ciarrailar. Disgraceful
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Post by goonised on Nov 20, 2018 9:57:37 GMT
I’ve watched the full game on YouTube again and your commentary is shameful. Methinks you’re a troll. Good night. A Troll? ? Another point throw in ball between two players at end and 3rd man contests; what's the rule on that. Likewise annascaul taking 14 yard free at end and they have player nearly on line. Again not allowed. Assessor wouldn't be be happy with that Any thoughts Ciarrai Lar? ? .as you had a great view of everything
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Post by ciarrailar on Nov 20, 2018 11:10:16 GMT
A Troll? ? Another point throw in ball between two players at end and 3rd man contests; what's the rule on that. Likewise annascaul taking 14 yard free at end and they have player nearly on line. Again not allowed. Assessor wouldn't be be happy with that Any thoughts Ciarrai Lar? ? .as you had a great view of everything Yeah well spotted. All players supposed to be back 13m from the kicker. He’s in the small square anyway. There is a dingle defender standing fairly close to the kicker as well though. The benefit of a video to look back is handy. Feck it we could all turn into Ciaran Whelans!
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Post by Mickmack on Nov 20, 2018 11:30:11 GMT
You seem to have been everywhere for all the key decisions Billy - I mean Ciarrai Lar :-) Lol only two key decisions in the game really. Geaney black and Shane Foley black. admittedly Geaney’s isn’t as easy to see in the video with the angle but side on it was v clear. Shane Foley one was a rugby tackle to be fair lol isnt rough play punishable by a yellow or a red.... wasnt PG incident more in that category than black?
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Post by ciarrailar on Nov 20, 2018 13:27:40 GMT
Rough would definitely be yellow, would have to be more dangerous to be red I’d say but open to correction on that. We could argue all day over every call that way though. One persons view is different from the next. That’s kinda what makes sport what it is though. Nothing wrong with reasoned debate. On a side note, any word on any of our recent retirees heading down the media/punditry route? Think Donaghy would make a great analyst and be a hell of a lot better than some of the current panel on tv.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2018 13:36:10 GMT
Rough would definitely be yellow, would have to be more dangerous to be red I’d say but open to correction on that. We could argue all day over every call that way though. One persons view is different from the next. That’s kinda what makes sport what it is though. Nothing wrong with reasoned debate. On a side note, any word on any of our recent retirees heading down the media/punditry route? Think Donaghy would make a great analyst and be a hell of a lot better than some of the current panel on tv.
Feck it Billy you would make a good job of it yourself I'd say if the refereeing doesn't work out for you :-)
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Post by ciarrailar on Nov 20, 2018 13:40:01 GMT
Rough would definitely be yellow, would have to be more dangerous to be red I’d say but open to correction on that. We could argue all day over every call that way though. One persons view is different from the next. That’s kinda what makes sport what it is though. Nothing wrong with reasoned debate. On a side note, any word on any of our recent retirees heading down the media/punditry route? Think Donaghy would make a great analyst and be a hell of a lot better than some of the current panel on tv.
Feck it Billy you would make a good job of it yourself I'd say if the refereeing doesn't work out for you :-)
You’re a gas ticket. If you only knew the irony. Lol
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Post by goonised on Nov 20, 2018 13:46:49 GMT
Rough would definitely be yellow, would have to be more dangerous to be red I’d say but open to correction on that. We could argue all day over every call that way though. One persons view is different from the next. That’s kinda what makes sport what it is though. Nothing wrong with reasoned debate. On a side note, any word on any of our recent retirees heading down the media/punditry route? Think Donaghy would make a great analyst and be a hell of a lot better than some of the current panel on tv.
Feck it Billy you would make a good job of it yourself I'd say if the refereeing doesn't work out for you :-)
Pundit might be way to go. Then we might all be told why Jerry Sullivan was sent to stands. I'm sure Ciarrai Lar will respond.
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Post by ciarrailar on Nov 20, 2018 14:02:07 GMT
Feck it Billy you would make a good job of it yourself I'd say if the refereeing doesn't work out for you :-)
Pundit might be way to go. Then we might all be told why Jerry Sullivan was sent to stands. I'm sure Ciarrai Lar will respond. Your guess is as good as my one on that one. He seemed an innocent bystander to me. Has he moved on from Firies? Saw on another thread they are looking for new management?
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Post by Mickmack on Nov 20, 2018 14:36:56 GMT
Rough would definitely be yellow, would have to be more dangerous to be red I’d say but open to correction on that. We could argue all day over every call that way though. One persons view is different from the next. That’s kinda what makes sport what it is though. Nothing wrong with reasoned debate. On a side note, any word on any of our recent retirees heading down the media/punditry route? Think Donaghy would make a great analyst and be a hell of a lot better than some of the current panel on tv. no one would have had an issue with a yellow. not a black card in my opinion.
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