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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2018 21:53:51 GMT
Rangers are a good bit away from being back to their best - they could not beat GG in their own pitch in a MK final and GG without Gavin Grady Their kickout strategy was atrocious and ultimately cost them - kept kicking out to Colin McGillycuddy and Jack Brosnan - very poor game management. Darren Sullivan was absolutely outstanding kicked some serious scores. Not sure where All current optimism for Rangers comes from - will be few years before their underage comes through Not the performance we wanted but the progress is getting to the final. I’d say we’re about two years away but a good championship run followed by a strong div 4 performance next year with promotion will have the blue and white army on the right track again. Some good young talent coming through but will definitely take a couple of years. Darran was outstanding today in fairness as was Pa Kilkenny. As a neutral today was a day where ye missed couple of yeer older heads who retired - they would have steadied the ship and got ye over the line. Priority would be getting out of div 4 and retain intermediate status - anything else is a bonus - but Rangers going in right direction with the underage work being done at that club - Darren Pa and Jack Brosnan excellent today
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Post by frankgalvintralee on Nov 5, 2018 10:28:25 GMT
Skellig rangers 2-7 Renard 1-9 Two quick fire goals in the first half laid the foundations for the rangers victory. Renard hung in there and whittled the lead down to one but ran out of time, could have forced extra time at the end but it wasn't to be. Another close battle two good games id say over the weekend
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2018 10:29:19 GMT
Who was the ref in the Valentia Waterville game?
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Post by goonised on Nov 5, 2018 10:40:30 GMT
Do they bring outside refs or local. Was supposed to be shocking anyway
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Post by ciarrailar on Nov 5, 2018 14:08:43 GMT
Do they bring outside refs or local. Was supposed to be shocking anyway Define shocking? One man’s “shocking” is another man’s “good performance”.... I came away from Killorglin thinking the ref had a good game in the Mid Kerry final and then got a call that evening from a friend who said he was abysmal.... it’s all about opinions really. Too much referee bashing on here if you asked me. Were you at the game? I wasn’t, but only wish I was because I’ve spoken to two friends who were both there and they said it was a cracker! Two teams that went at it from start to finish with no holding back. That’s good championship fare if you asked me. Both lads said ref was right with the penalty. Waterville player was only a yard or two behind the kicker when he took the first kick and ref had warned them to stay outside 20.... Can’t blame the ref for that. as for the injury time, I’m sure Waterville can have no complaints as it gave them plenty of time to get a winning goal and Valentia can’t feel too hard done by if they won the game in any event.... from what I heard there was a bit of a ‘schmozzle’ in the 2nd half and another injury in time added on. I’m sure these with any substitutions would have added up? Although, given the tight numbers down South these days there might not have been any subs! Valentia had a 52 year old playing from what I read in the paper so they must have only had the bare 15..... FairPlay to him for lining out at that age!
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Post by goonised on Nov 5, 2018 15:11:33 GMT
No didn't make game. My Source was 2 very knowledgeable Waterville men. Who since told me twas a mid kerry ref but hadn't seen him before. However they said south kerry bord have all there officials appointed right down to final all outside officials which shows the bord is pro active.
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Post by clubman on Nov 5, 2018 21:15:06 GMT
SK board always appoint outside refs for their games, have done so for many years. I think Seamus Mulvihill reffed the final last year, or maybe it was Brendan Griffin. Peter Lyons is another who is there most years. Usually the standard of reffing is quite good to be fair. I asked the question about refs in the NK thread but got no answer. Outside refs seem to be the way to go for district championships I think
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Post by ciarrailar on Nov 5, 2018 21:50:29 GMT
Any one at Renard and Skellig game yesterday ?? Did Renard have there former kerry seniors and minors playing Robert Wharton Killian Young Brian Sugrue and Michael Leary ? Hard to believe Skellig won if they were playing Think they were playing alright. Saw a photo on Facebook and Young, Wharton, Sugrue were there anyway.
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Post by ciarrailar on Nov 5, 2018 22:46:00 GMT
Thanks you would think with them Renard would cruise but then again the stats on paper said Renard haven’t beaten Skellig since 1999 and the trend continues. Skellig are fighters. Always hard to beat when their backs are to the wall!
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Post by ciarrailar on Nov 5, 2018 22:48:01 GMT
Not the performance we wanted but the progress is getting to the final. I’d say we’re about two years away but a good championship run followed by a strong div 4 performance next year with promotion will have the blue and white army on the right track again. Some good young talent coming through but will definitely take a couple of years. Darran was outstanding today in fairness as was Pa Kilkenny. As a neutral today was a day where ye missed couple of yeer older heads who retired - they would have steadied the ship and got ye over the line. Priority would be getting out of div 4 and retain intermediate status - anything else is a bonus - but Rangers going in right direction with the underage work being done at that club - Darren Pa and Jack Brosnan excellent today Very true but we probably relied on them longer than we should have when we needed to be blooding young lads. Nice to see Daire Cleary playing well and Fiachra as well.... future is bright.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2018 0:01:47 GMT
As a neutral today was a day where ye missed couple of yeer older heads who retired - they would have steadied the ship and got ye over the line. Priority would be getting out of div 4 and retain intermediate status - anything else is a bonus - but Rangers going in right direction with the underage work being done at that club - Darren Pa and Jack Brosnan excellent today Very true but we probably relied on them longer than we should have when we needed to be blooding young lads. Nice to see Daire Cleary playing well and Fiachra as well.... future is bright. From watching Rangers games over last few years it was the older fellas that kept things going for Rangers - very little underage talent came through over last 10 years - if ye had a John Sheehan or the goalkeeper Lyons yesterday I’m quite certain ye would have got over the line. Glenbeigh are battle hardened where Rangers lacked experience yesterday. Fiachra Clifford is a lovely footballer would pay to watch him play all day. Jack Brosnan for Glenbeigh lovely young footballer also some engine on him
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2018 0:03:13 GMT
Do they bring outside refs or local. Was supposed to be shocking anyway Define shocking? One man’s “shocking” is another man’s “good performance”.... I came away from Killorglin thinking the ref had a good game in the Mid Kerry final and then got a call that evening from a friend who said he was abysmal.... it’s all about opinions really. Too much referee bashing on here if you asked me. Were you at the game? I wasn’t, but only wish I was because I’ve spoken to two friends who were both there and they said it was a cracker! Two teams that went at it from start to finish with no holding back. That’s good championship fare if you asked me. Both lads said ref was right with the penalty. Waterville player was only a yard or two behind the kicker when he took the first kick and ref had warned them to stay outside 20.... Can’t blame the ref for that. as for the injury time, I’m sure Waterville can have no complaints as it gave them plenty of time to get a winning goal and Valentia can’t feel too hard done by if they won the game in any event.... from what I heard there was a bit of a ‘schmozzle’ in the 2nd half and another injury in time added on. I’m sure these with any substitutions would have added up? Although, given the tight numbers down South these days there might not have been any subs! Valentia had a 52 year old playing from what I read in the paper so they must have only had the bare 15..... FairPlay to him for lining out at that age! Any idea who the ref was for Valentia Waterville game? If a player encroaches then it is correct to retake a penalty as far as I’m aware
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Post by ciarrailar on Nov 6, 2018 10:24:54 GMT
Define shocking? One man’s “shocking” is another man’s “good performance”.... I came away from Killorglin thinking the ref had a good game in the Mid Kerry final and then got a call that evening from a friend who said he was abysmal.... it’s all about opinions really. Too much referee bashing on here if you asked me. Were you at the game? I wasn’t, but only wish I was because I’ve spoken to two friends who were both there and they said it was a cracker! Two teams that went at it from start to finish with no holding back. That’s good championship fare if you asked me. Both lads said ref was right with the penalty. Waterville player was only a yard or two behind the kicker when he took the first kick and ref had warned them to stay outside 20.... Can’t blame the ref for that. as for the injury time, I’m sure Waterville can have no complaints as it gave them plenty of time to get a winning goal and Valentia can’t feel too hard done by if they won the game in any event.... from what I heard there was a bit of a ‘schmozzle’ in the 2nd half and another injury in time added on. I’m sure these with any substitutions would have added up? Although, given the tight numbers down South these days there might not have been any subs! Valentia had a 52 year old playing from what I read in the paper so they must have only had the bare 15..... FairPlay to him for lining out at that age! Any idea who the ref was for Valentia Waterville game? If a player encroaches then it is correct to retake a penalty as far as I’m aware Just read match report on Valentia Facebook. Billy O’Shea from Keel reffed it. Seen him in action quite a bit. He always been a firm ref but always fair from what I’ve seen. Ballsy move to have penalty retaken in that environment. Can’t blame a ref for applying the rules.
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Post by ciarrailar on Nov 6, 2018 10:27:23 GMT
Very true but we probably relied on them longer than we should have when we needed to be blooding young lads. Nice to see Daire Cleary playing well and Fiachra as well.... future is bright. From watching Rangers games over last few years it was the older fellas that kept things going for Rangers - very little underage talent came through over last 10 years - if ye had a John Sheehan or the goalkeeper Lyons yesterday I’m quite certain ye would have got over the line. Glenbeigh are battle hardened where Rangers lacked experience yesterday. Fiachra Clifford is a lovely footballer would pay to watch him play all day. Jack Brosnan for Glenbeigh lovely young footballer also some engine on him Fiachra is a joy to watch. Ah Glenbeigh were the stronger outfit on Sunday to be fair to them. I know they only hit the front at the very death but it seemed like an inevitability as the 2nd half wore on. Jack Brosnan made some fantastic runs, cutting through the defense. More power to them! The Rangers will be back.... we’re in a rebuilding phase now but won’t be down for too long!
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Post by goonised on Nov 6, 2018 19:44:07 GMT
From watching Rangers games over last few years it was the older fellas that kept things going for Rangers - very little underage talent came through over last 10 years - if ye had a John Sheehan or the goalkeeper Lyons yesterday I’m quite certain ye would have got over the line. Glenbeigh are battle hardened where Rangers lacked experience yesterday. Fiachra Clifford is a lovely footballer would pay to watch him play all day. Jack Brosnan for Glenbeigh lovely young footballer also some engine on him Fiachra is a joy to watch. Ah Glenbeigh were the stronger outfit on Sunday to be fair to them. I know they only hit the front at the very death but it seemed like an inevitability as the 2nd half wore on. Jack Brosnan made some fantastic runs, cutting through the defense. More power to them! The Rangers will be back.... we’re in a rebuilding phase now but won’t be down for too long! Ya heard Eddie Walsh was very good Sunday. I suppose Mid Kerry isn't well stocked with championship class referees outside of Peter Lyons and Sean Joy and with Rangers involved they had no choice only go outside the district. I was in Moyvane Sunday and Brendan Griffin was outstanding. Strong team with him as well in the two Mulvihills all miked up as well and a cracking game
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2018 8:53:11 GMT
Fiachra is a joy to watch. Ah Glenbeigh were the stronger outfit on Sunday to be fair to them. I know they only hit the front at the very death but it seemed like an inevitability as the 2nd half wore on. Jack Brosnan made some fantastic runs, cutting through the defense. More power to them! The Rangers will be back.... we’re in a rebuilding phase now but won’t be down for too long! Ya heard Eddie Walsh was very good Sunday. I suppose Mid Kerry isn't well stocked with championship class referees outside of Peter Lyons and Sean Joy and with Rangers involved they had no choice only go outside the district. I was in Moyvane Sunday and Brendan Griffin was outstanding. Strong team with him as well in the two Mulvihills all miked up as well and a cracking game
Peter Lyons is pushing on now - wasn't the ref he was 5 years ago. And the less said about Sean Joy the better!
You are right Mid Kerry not well stocked for ref's - they have been going outside for the last few years also anyway.
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Post by richard00 on Nov 7, 2018 15:35:10 GMT
Really looking forward to St Mchls Foilmore vs the Mary’s can anyone see an upset on the cards ?
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Post by richard00 on Nov 7, 2018 18:11:24 GMT
Looking foward to Bally and St Mary’s?? St Mary’s will hammer them! Bally played Beaufort in a challenge last week and lost by 10+ points and St Mary’s played Currow and beat them well. It will be a one sided game. So unfortunately you have nothing to look foward to! A big difference between a challenge game and a championship game I certainly wouldn’t think Mary’s will be treating it as a stroll in the park especially with Foilmore having home advantage
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Post by richard00 on Nov 11, 2018 18:06:16 GMT
Looking foward to Bally and St Mary’s?? St Mary’s will hammer them! Bally played Beaufort in a challenge last week and lost by 10+ points and St Mary’s played Currow and beat them well. It will be a one sided game. So unfortunately you have nothing to look foward to! . You have some knowledge of football to be fair..........,say you never seen a south kerry championship game in your life
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Post by iveragh on Nov 11, 2018 19:17:01 GMT
Wait and see if your so confident why don’t u back Bally there 6/1 they should be 10/1 because they haven’t a chance !! Not a bad performance from bfilemore considering you said they will get hammered, even had chances to win the game only for bad decission making and loose shooting front of goal
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Post by clubman on Nov 17, 2018 11:08:41 GMT
Semi final between Skellig Rangers and Dromid today in Caherciveen at 3. There's an absolute gale blowing, hopefully it doesnt ruin the game. Talking to Portmagee man at work during the week, they are quietly confident. Should be a decent game, I think Dromid have a few injury problems but you would expect them to pull through. St Marys V Valentia tomorrow back in Portmagee, hard to look past the Marys for that
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Post by clubman on Nov 17, 2018 18:23:17 GMT
Dromid won 13 to 6. Dromid full value for the win and looked a cut above Skellig. A few injuries to both sides in what was a stop start affair which was hampered by the gale of wind blowing. Dromid were just cuter on the ball and worked it better up front. Portmagee huffed and puffed but never looked like threatening the scoreboard from play. Bitterly cold watching from the side but a decent game nonetheless. Well reffed by Paul Hayes I thought, got the black cards and red spot on in my view and was well aided by his team.
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Post by superscore100 on Nov 18, 2018 17:27:19 GMT
St. Marys 0-15, Valentia 0-04
Valentia put up a good fight in the first half, playing against the wind they held the Marys to 6pts to 3pts at half time. St. Marys took over then, Valentia just struggled to win any kickouts in the 2nd half.
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Post by iveragh on Nov 18, 2018 19:50:55 GMT
St. Marys 0-15, Valentia 0-04 Valentia put up a good fight in the first half, playing against the wind they held the Marys to 6pts to 3pts at half time. St. Marys took over then, Valentia just struggled to win any kickouts in the 2nd half. Mark Quigley came on late in the game for St, Mary’s, his father Richard at 52 years of age was in goal for Valentia, you cant beat the Gaa!
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Post by clubman on Nov 19, 2018 12:35:37 GMT
Absolutely perishing day back in Portmagee yesterday. Valentia were very good in the first half yet you always got the feeling they needed a goal to push on or that Marys could step up a gear at any time. They didnt use the full forward half enough and every time the ball came near him his size and strength caused problems for the Marys backs. On saying that it was probably hard to put the ball in as the wind was incredibly strong. You know the wind is an issue when you see Bryan Sheehan missing frees from 35 to 40 yards out. First half was entertaining, the second was all about the Marys grinding down Valentia. The longer the game went on the more and more desperate for a goal Valentia became, a process that never looked likely. That aside, the Islanders can be very proud of their year, promotion in the county league and a big scalp over Waterville in the championship, they are moving in the right direction. St Marys had the luxury of running the bench at the end, its hard to know how good they are, they will most likely line up very different in the final as there was no Sean Cournane, Paul Donoghue or Jack Daly yesterday, 3 very good forwards. I thought the ref did ok in difficult conditions, the sidelines were very agitated and there was a few battles off the ball, if I had one criticism it would be that he gave St Marys a few softish frees in scoring positions. The Marys are happy to go down easy and play for frees anywhere inside 60 yards knowing Sheehan will kick them. It always annoys me how a ref doesnt spot the forward holding onto a defenders arm to try and draw a free.
The final is fixed for Caherciveen in 2 weeks time and I think everyone will admit its the best 2 teams by a good distance in the final. I wouldnt be putting money on it but its hard to look past St Marys again, they seem to have something over Dromid in finals. Should be a great game nonetheless. Seamus Mulvihill is down to ref the final which is a good appointment, he has been very good any time I have seen him.
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Post by ciarrailar on Nov 19, 2018 21:18:19 GMT
Good report clubman!
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Post by diego on Nov 30, 2018 17:50:48 GMT
quiet build up on here for the final tomorrow in town. Both sides staying well camouflaged in the long grass.
Reckon Dromid will give it a good rattle again after coming within a whisker of glory out in Portmagee last year.
Weather looks like twil be reasonably ok given the time of year, and with the type of football both teams play should make a good game whatever the outcome.
2.30 throw in.
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Post by clubman on Nov 30, 2018 23:41:37 GMT
The weather forecast has taken a turn for the better in the last day or two which is great. It probably will be very cold but as long as its dry I guess we cant complain. Its a very hard game to call, originally I thought the Marys, now im leaning towards Dromid. Id say most neutrals would prefer to see a change at the top table and Dromid have lost a good few finals so nobody would begrudge them one.
Both sides try to play football the right way too so we wont be seeing any blanket defence tomorrow, in fact I think a good few Dromid scores against Portmagee came from the defenders attacking. Marys players have massive experience of big finals though and Sheehan on his home patch will be a major threat.
We could very easily need a second day out to sort this one
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Post by clubman on Dec 4, 2018 10:46:36 GMT
I had a full post done on this but I somehow managed to delete it and im not going to type it out again! Very disappointing game the last day, The Marys started at a ferocious pace and never let up. They won all the breaks around the middle and put fierce pressure on the ball going into the Dromid forwards which was lacking in quality. They had their homework well done and did good man marking jobs on Dromids most dangerous players. Add to that Sheehan was imperious from dead balls and won motm, realistically you could have given it to any one of them, their forwards were excellent all throughout. A Dromid goal halfway during the second half gave a tiny bit of hope but the Marys went straight up and rattled the net themselves which ended the contest A complete performance and based on that its hard to see anyone stopping a 6 or even 7 in a row
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Post by diego on Dec 5, 2018 0:07:49 GMT
Very good display by the town boys on Saturday. As said earlier, pressed up on the Dromid kick outs from the opening minutes, and used their size advantage to gobble up everything that came in to the middle third where Denis Daly and Bryan Sheehan excelled.
With the supply of ball that dominance provided, it was always going to be curtains for Dromid given the quality in the Marys forward line.
Aidan Walsh and Daniel Daly were in flying form from the off, and when Anthony Cournane expertly set up his brother Sean to be 1 on 1 with the last line of defense, there was only going to be 1 result. The goal gave a 7 point margin (1-6 to 0-2) and with no sign of a threat from the Pearses, the game up was up as a contest even at that early stage.
Dromid moved Graham O'Sullivan from full back to midfield around HT, but it didn't look a natural position for him and this move failed to change the balance of power.
About 10 minutes in to the 2nd half Keelan Farley somehow sneaked the ball through a forest of defenders to briefly hint at the possibility of a comeback, but that hope was extinguished almost instantly as a high ball in to the square was attacked with intent by a couple of Marys players with Adam Quirke i believe finishing it to the net.
It was exhibition stuff after that, and a 11 point gap at the end was a fair reflection of the difference between the sides.
For the Dromid lads Chris Farley was on form from frees off the hand and Dilan O'Donoghue looked good on the few occasions he got on the ball, but there was little else for them that went well on the day.
The Marys had no real weak links. Was impressed by young corner back Oisin Moran who looks a stylish operator. For the 2nd year in a row Denis Daly had a big game in the final, and Sheehan was a deserved MOTM. The onlooking Peter Keane could only wish he was a few years younger!
The forward unit excelled and it says a lot about how well they're playing that they could afford to leave Paulie Donoghue on the bench.
The game was excellently refereed by Seamus Mulvihill who was always in control and always made it clear to the crowd and players with his hand signals (and impressively loud verbals!) how he had come to his decisions. Not an easy sport to referee these days so credit where it's due.
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