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Post by ciarrailar on Nov 19, 2018 13:01:02 GMT
In total agreement on the Galvin point. Hard to see what he adds to the team at this stage. Very disheartening for young lads when he comes in like that for a cameo.... where will he be in late January when it’s lashing rain and they are training for the season ahead?
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Post by taibhse on Nov 19, 2018 13:16:52 GMT
In total agreement on the Galvin point. Hard to see what he adds to the team at this stage. Very disheartening for young lads when he comes in like that for a cameo.... where will he be in late January when it’s lashing rain and they are training for the season ahead? Developing his latest fashion designs back in Ballinclogher, Abbeydorney!
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Post by An Bradán on Nov 19, 2018 21:26:53 GMT
Ballinclogher is in Lixnaw parish.
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Post by veteran on Nov 25, 2018 17:26:14 GMT
Ballydonoghue 0-13 Ballyduff 1-10 HT 0-7 0-6
This game wasn't as compelling as the score line might suggest. The first half was of reasonable quality and of course the last few minutes, with the outcome uncertain, were exciting,but overall the the quality was never better than mediocre, being of a stop start nature for most of the game.
Ballydonoghue started the better of the two teams being aided by a crossfield breeze. Paul Kennelly was proving troublesome at full forward and spearheaded an early three point lead for Ballydonoghue. In spite of that, it was apparent the champions were not playing any way close to their normal fluency with a lot of their more highly rated players failing to make an impact. Needless to say they were not helped by the usual Ballyduff doggedness. Paul Costelloe and Jack O'Sullivan got on top at midfield for Ballyduff and by the end of that half they were the dominant pair against Martin O'Mahony and Brian O'Seanachain. Martin did win some hard possession but Brian made no impact. He was eventually forced off with an injury close to half time. While Ballyduff did have that dominance at midfield in the first half their forward line showed little penetration apart from Philip Lucid with two points and Jack Goulding with one. Jason was marking Mikey Boyle but nothing was accruing from that contest which of course suited Ballydonoghue. At half time , Ballydonoghue led by one point but one was fearful for them in the second half particularly if Ballyduff could maintain their grip at midfield, playing with the wind as they would be on the turnover.
Well, Ballydonoghue were a transformed team in the second half. They now had Thomas Kennelly at midfield where he was the best on show until late in the game and furthermore the forever young Martin O'Mahony become more prominent.Micheal Foley also became very influential at CHB and a hitherto anonymous Eamon Walsh showed why he is a key figure. . The result was that we saw less and less of Paud Costelloe and Jack O'Sullivan. Inevitably the scores accrued and in what appeared to be the blink of any eye Ballydonoghue had opened up a lead of five points. They squandered a few more scores including a goal or two. The deal should have been well sealed at this stage and even though it was not, one felt Ballydonoghue were on their way to a third final in a row. Will I ever get sense, turning my back on the irrepressible Duffers!
As the game meandered to what seemed a foregone conclusion somebody must have crept onto the field unsighted and given a blood transfusion to each of the boys in green. To a man they lifted themselves from the canvas and fought for every ball and horsed into every Ballydonoghue man as if the economy of their kinsmen was at stake. They brought it back to three with Jack Goulding the bogey man in chief. Adrian Boyle was brought in . A big man and he was stationed close to the Ballydonoghue goal with brother Mikey, more or less inconspicuous up this juncture , as his comrade in arms. Clearly, route one rather than finesse was going to be the house special. True enough the high one was duly delivered and Mikey somehow got it in his arms. He was surrounded by opponents and could not make progress but , gathering on several years of hard earned craft, he went down. Penalty was the decision. A free out would have been my decision, from a very good vantage point. My decision does not count. Another Boyle, Padraig, ssmashed it home. Level. Why not try another high ball? Exactly shouted the Duffers. This was duly delivered, ball broke, snapped up by David Carroll. Put up that white flag. Pandemonium. Ballyduff a point up with time fast fading. Ballydonoghue win vital possession eventually. Jason vacates the house minding job and makes a desisive incision in the Ballyduff rearguard. There is toing and froing and the ball is gathered by Paul Kennelly in the left corner, the right man in possession as Ballydonoghue are about to take a standing count. Paul makes tracks, is fouled and points the equaliser. Another day another dollar. I will keep my life savings in the pocket rather than wagering on the replay outcome. I suppose Ballydonoghue will be favourites again but only a fool would bet against you know who.
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Post by An Bradán on Nov 25, 2018 19:27:50 GMT
Fine report Veteran. Thanks
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Post by homerj on Nov 25, 2018 20:41:15 GMT
apparently the replay is fixed for Brosna. absolutely mental taking two neighbouring teams out there, unless every other pitch in the region is not playable?
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Post by ballybunion on Nov 25, 2018 21:23:28 GMT
Brosna would be hoping to host a NK final and why not. I heard the club had applied for the final,probably not getting it so we'll give them a semi.Just my opinion.I would imagine all the pitches in NK are playable.some in great shape Beale,Duagh,Finuge etc
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Post by Ballyfireside on Nov 25, 2018 21:40:03 GMT
I raised my voice last year re the delayed transmission of the final so is it how they are trying to make it up to me by bringing the replay closer to Donegal? Those games were a joy to watch and after my beloved Ballydonoghue investing in the equipment it was shameful to purposefully deny emigrants seeing it live and for no possible good reason. Hopefully they won't let us down this year, whoever makes it to the final.
Amazing report there Vet.
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Post by fairplay2all on Nov 26, 2018 0:08:02 GMT
apparently the replay is fixed for Brosna. absolutely mental taking two neighbouring teams out there, unless every other pitch in the region is not playable? “Out there” actually is believe it or not is part of north kerry bord . So why not hold the semi final replay there , no one has to walk to the game , easily reached in 30 mins by an average car from participating teams , google maps can assist you if your in trouble , obviously there are nearer venues to both but as regards a venue they aren’t “near” as good !!
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Post by homerj on Nov 26, 2018 8:40:25 GMT
apparently the replay is fixed for Brosna. absolutely mental taking two neighbouring teams out there, unless every other pitch in the region is not playable? “Out there” actually is believe it or not is part of north kerry bord . So why not hold the semi final replay there , no one has to walk to the game , easily reached in 30 mins by an average car from participating teams , google maps can assist you if your in trouble , obviously there are nearer venues to both but as regards a venue they aren’t “near” as good !! it would be the same as playing Desmonds v Brosna in Ballyduff, there is absolutely no need for this game to be played so far away from both clubs. its a good 40 minutes from ballyduff to brosna by the way. there is no defense of this, its an insane decision off the NKB.
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Post by wideball on Nov 26, 2018 11:08:50 GMT
Double Header Bernard O Callaghan Memorial Senior Championship Sponsored by McMunn's Bar and Restaurant Ballybunion Semi Final Replay Sunday 2nd December @ 2pm E.T. Venue: Brosna Ballyduff v Ballydonoghue
Jotty Holly Memorial Minor Championship Sponsored by O’Connor’s Hardware & Farm Supplies Duagh Division 1 Final (Replay in event of a draw) Sunday 2nd December at 12 Noon venue: Brosna Beale v Emmets
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Post by Control5 on Nov 26, 2018 15:23:09 GMT
I raised my voice last year re the delayed transmission of the final so is it how they are trying to make it up to me by bringing the replay closer to Donegal? Those games were a joy to watch and after my beloved Ballydonoghue investing in the equipment it was shameful to purposefully deny emigrants seeing it live and for no possible good reason. Hopefully they won't let us down this year, whoever makes it to the final. Amazing report there Vet. I had to close down the NK thread last year because of you. It will not be closed down this year because of you.
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Post by mojo on Nov 26, 2018 18:18:02 GMT
No problems havin the game there last year when no other field available
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Post by Ballyfireside on Nov 27, 2018 1:26:08 GMT
I raised my voice last year re the delayed transmission of the final so is it how they are trying to make it up to me by bringing the replay closer to Donegal? Those games were a joy to watch and after my beloved Ballydonoghue investing in the equipment it was shameful to purposefully deny emigrants seeing it live and for no possible good reason. Hopefully they won't let us down this year, whoever makes it to the final. Amazing report there Vet. I had to close down the NK thread last year because of you. It will not be closed down this year because of you. What's up? Are you saying the broadcast wasn't delayed? Do you know something I don't? Ah be jazus? Are you telling those who live far away that we shouldn't be bothered if we can't see the games? It was a (very) respected GAA man who detailed to me the lengths Ballydonoghue went to and then to have our own Robert O Muireartaigh deliver a remarkable commentary, and someone feels we should be silenced? With respect I'd seek a second opinion on that one as you are over reacting to a harmless if general enough comment!
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Post by southward on Nov 27, 2018 22:48:07 GMT
Double Header Bernard O Callaghan Memorial Senior Championship Sponsored by McMunn's Bar and Restaurant Ballybunion Semi Final Replay Sunday 2nd December @ 2pm E.T. Venue: Brosna Ballyduff v Ballydonoghue Jotty Holly Memorial Minor Championship Sponsored by O’Connor’s Hardware & Farm Supplies Duagh Division 1 Final (Replay in event of a draw) Sunday 2nd December at 12 Noon venue: Brosna Beale v Emmets A double header? At this time of year, in this weather? In Brosna? Whose bright idea was this?
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Post by Attacking Wing Back on Nov 28, 2018 0:30:06 GMT
I had to close down the NK thread last year because of you. It will not be closed down this year because of you. What's up? Are you saying the broadcast wasn't delayed? Do you know something I don't? Ah be jazus? Are you telling those who live far away that we shouldn't be bothered if we can't see the games? It was a (very) respected GAA man who detailed to me the lengths Ballydonoghue went to and then to have our own Robert O Muireartaigh deliver a remarkable commentary, and someone feels we should be silenced? With respect I'd seek a second opinion on that one as you are over reacting to a harmless if general enough comment! I think control is just putting on your guard to be honest re the video thing. You were very bad on last year's thread accusing lads of back handers and all sorts before the comments were deleted. I think he is just trying to nip it in the bud in fairness. He never said anything about the merits of the game being broadcast or not. I don't know why it's not broadcast either. Could be some sort of rights issue as strange as that sounds. I know it's the NK final but some of the deals signed have blanket coverage like intermediate and junior club all Ireland so rather than list them all they Grant blanked club rights. Crokes were stopped about 5 years ago from streaming their games live too. I see in the north is it Tyrone have streamed a lot of club games online. So I don't know if it's cause it's Ulster they can or our own county board block it at local level.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Nov 28, 2018 2:53:50 GMT
What's up? Are you saying the broadcast wasn't delayed? Do you know something I don't? Ah be jazus? Are you telling those who live far away that we shouldn't be bothered if we can't see the games? It was a (very) respected GAA man who detailed to me the lengths Ballydonoghue went to and then to have our own Robert O Muireartaigh deliver a remarkable commentary, and someone feels we should be silenced? With respect I'd seek a second opinion on that one as you are over reacting to a harmless if general enough comment! I think control is just putting on your guard to be honest re the video thing. You were very bad on last year's thread accusing lads of back handers and all sorts before the comments were deleted. I think he is just trying to nip it in the bud in fairness. He never said anything about the merits of the game being broadcast or not. I don't know why it's not broadcast either. Could be some sort of rights issue as strange as that sounds. I know it's the NK final but some of the deals signed have blanket coverage like intermediate and junior club all Ireland so rather than list them all they Grant blanked club rights. Crokes were stopped about 5 years ago from streaming their games live too. I see in the north is it Tyrone have streamed a lot of club games online. So I don't know if it's cause it's Ulster they can or our own county board block it at local level. Of course I was livid and while I appreciate your input, Tyrone and Crokes would have TV issues that wouldn't apply to NK. Are we saying that Radio Kerry has media rights here? Ballydonoghue stumped up big money for equipment and where they could have spent less if it was solely for video analysis. That Robert O Muireartaigh is so good makes it all the worse and it is hard to take. Sure 'twould only be a handful that would chose a PC at home over the Sunday drive car radio.
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Post by Mickmack on Nov 28, 2018 11:21:34 GMT
I would have loved to see the club hurling finals in Kerry over the past few years but i couldnt get to Kerry unfortunately.
I listened to the commentary on radio kerry and was glad of it.
If i could have logged on to midnight or the following day and watched a delayed recording i would have been very grateful and appreciative. All for nothing as well in the comfort of my home beside the fire.
It was some service to people outside the county for the 2017 NK final.... Radio Kerry, Veterans report and the full game on a delayed transmission.
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Post by Attacking Wing Back on Nov 28, 2018 15:06:56 GMT
I think control is just putting on your guard to be honest re the video thing. You were very bad on last year's thread accusing lads of back handers and all sorts before the comments were deleted. I think he is just trying to nip it in the bud in fairness. He never said anything about the merits of the game being broadcast or not. I don't know why it's not broadcast either. Could be some sort of rights issue as strange as that sounds. I know it's the NK final but some of the deals signed have blanket coverage like intermediate and junior club all Ireland so rather than list them all they Grant blanked club rights. Crokes were stopped about 5 years ago from streaming their games live too. I see in the north is it Tyrone have streamed a lot of club games online. So I don't know if it's cause it's Ulster they can or our own county board block it at local level. Of course I was livid and while I appreciate your input, Tyrone and Crokes would have TV issues that wouldn't apply to NK. Are we saying that Radio Kerry has media rights here? Ballydonoghue stumped up big money for equipment and where they could have spent less if it was solely for video analysis. That Robert O Muireartaigh is so good makes it all the worse and it is hard to take. Sure 'twould only be a handful that would chose a PC at home over the Sunday drive car radio. I'm on about TV companies not radio. That's what i am saying. I don't know if the contract when signed for club coverage is a blanket contract for all club activity. I presume it is in some sort as you can't have little caveats here and there for different competitions at a local level. Its signed on a national level not county or even provincial level. The Tyrone streaming I mentioned previously is a paid service and you purchase a 'ticket'to view the game. Did Ballydonoghue not ask if they had permission before they stumped up 'big money'?
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Post by Ballyfireside on Nov 28, 2018 15:22:50 GMT
Of course I was livid and while I appreciate your input, Tyrone and Crokes would have TV issues that wouldn't apply to NK. Are we saying that Radio Kerry has media rights here? Ballydonoghue stumped up big money for equipment and where they could have spent less if it was solely for video analysis. That Robert O Muireartaigh is so good makes it all the worse and it is hard to take. Sure 'twould only be a handful that would chose a PC at home over the Sunday drive car radio. I'm on about TV companies not radio. That's what i am saying. I don't know if the contract when signed for club coverage is a blanket contract for all club activity. I presume it is in some sort as you can't have little caveats here and there for different competitions at a local level. Its signed on a national level not county or even provincial level. The Tyrone streaming I mentioned previously is a paid service and you purchase a 'ticket'to view the game. Did Ballydonoghue not ask if they had permission before they stumped up 'big money'? You invest for long term and it was the right decision and the equipment is as good as RTE, in fact better as the setting is more intimate and you almost feel you are actually there on the field with the players. I think the nub is that someone fears that live broadcast takes a biteen from the gate and so thousands of us are consequently deprived. Delayed isn't the same and radio doesn't cover these games anyway, just call in to see how it is going. My heartbreak is more for our emigrants as I can pop down the road and see local teams here in Donegal and while it isn't the same, those in US & UK are not so fortunate. I saw some great games up here this year, although bitter sweet still as you always think you should be watching your native team. Still we also get had some great inter-county games this year, Kerry v Monaghan the day after Dubs v Tyrone in Omagh, what weekend to remember.
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Post by wideball on Nov 28, 2018 16:27:34 GMT
I'm on about TV companies not radio. That's what i am saying. I don't know if the contract when signed for club coverage is a blanket contract for all club activity. I presume it is in some sort as you can't have little caveats here and there for different competitions at a local level. Its signed on a national level not county or even provincial level. The Tyrone streaming I mentioned previously is a paid service and you purchase a 'ticket'to view the game. Did Ballydonoghue not ask if they had permission before they stumped up 'big money'? You invest for long term and it was the right decision and the equipment is as good as RTE, in fact better as the setting is more intimate and you almost feel you are actually there on the field with the players. I think the nub is that someone fears that live broadcast takes a biteen from the gate and so thousands of us are consequently deprived. Delayed isn't the same and radio doesn't cover these games anyway, just call in to see how it is going. My heartbreak is more for our emigrants as I can pop down the road and see local teams here in Donegal and while it isn't the same, those in US & UK are not so fortunate. I saw some great games up here this year, although bitter sweet still as you always think you should be watching your native team. Still we also get had some great inter-county games this year, Kerry v Monaghan the day after Dubs v Tyrone in Omagh, what weekend to remember. Radio does the NK final every year I'm pretty sure
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Post by Mickmack on Nov 28, 2018 17:35:30 GMT
emigrants having to watch a delayed transmission hardly falls into "heartbreak" territory!
A bit of perspective is needed.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Nov 28, 2018 20:46:31 GMT
emigrants having to watch a delayed transmission hardly falls into "heartbreak" territory! A bit of perspective is needed. Am I wrong to want it broadcast live? Do I tell others that 'birth team' games shouldn't be shown live? I know of homes where the elderly who don't go out much anymore and moreover on a winterish day, are victims of this nonsense and as are our emigrants, the most vulnerable of who will never again see a live game on home soil. Many of these would be ex players and club workers. There is a trend here, paying licence fees and then exclusive rights to games get given to private interests, e.g. Sky. Now local audio interests prevents GAA folk from live video of their own games and which clubs finance themselves. We are paying on the double/treble and then denied. And no mick, the commentary you refer to is intermittent, very. We moan that we can't get broadband and then we are happy that some can stop us seeing games. Now there's a bit of perspective.
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Post by fealeside on Nov 28, 2018 23:56:24 GMT
I have a question here. Is the gentleman's surname who did the commentary not Bunyan? Also, did someone tell you that Ballydonoghue spent a fortune on the equipment to stream the game? Out of interest? You invest for long term and it was the right decision and the equipment is as good as RTE, in fact better as the setting is more intimate and you almost feel you are actually there on the field with the players. I think the nub is that someone fears that live broadcast takes a biteen from the gate and so thousands of us are consequently deprived. Delayed isn't the same and radio doesn't cover these games anyway, just call in to see how it is going. My heartbreak is more for our emigrants as I can pop down the road and see local teams here in Donegal and while it isn't the same, those in US & UK are not so fortunate. I saw some great games up here this year, although bitter sweet still as you always think you should be watching your native team. Still we also get had some great inter-county games this year, Kerry v Monaghan the day after Dubs v Tyrone in Omagh, what weekend to remember. Radio does the NK final every year I'm pretty sure
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Post by Attacking Wing Back on Nov 29, 2018 0:14:03 GMT
If radio Kerry put the kibosh of the get live broadcast ( which I doubt ) I can understand why. They promote the games in radio all year long both intercounty and local. Get a sponsor for the game to bring in ad revenue and then lose listeners to an online stream. The county board depends on radio Kerry to promote the games as much as radio Kerry rely on the county board to provide content filor programmes in terms of games etc to raise ad revenue. As for the equipment. In fairness I'd say it's not at RTE level. Having had some minor dealings with the equipment used in the trade you could be talking 50k and up for some cameras. Looking at the YouTube footage it seems a fairly basic setup. Single camera on a tripod. Tralee warriors stream all their games online using an iPhone and a tripod and it turns out pretty well. There's an example hereMaybe ballydonoghue paid over the odds for the equipment
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Post by Mickmack on Nov 29, 2018 8:23:24 GMT
emigrants having to watch a delayed transmission hardly falls into "heartbreak" territory! A bit of perspective is needed. Am I wrong to want it broadcast live? Do I tell others that 'birth team' games shouldn't be shown live? I know of homes where the elderly who don't go out much anymore and moreover on a winterish day, are victims of this nonsense and as are our emigrants, the most vulnerable of who will never again see a live game on home soil. Many of these would be ex players and club workers. There is a trend here, paying licence fees and then exclusive rights to games get given to private interests, e.g. Sky. Now local audio interests prevents GAA folk from live video of their own games and which clubs finance themselves. We are paying on the double/treble and then denied. And no mick, the commentary you refer to is intermittent, very. We moan that we can't get broadband and then we are happy that some can stop us seeing games. Now there's a bit of perspective. You were not stopped seeing the game. It was a delayed viewing... but you were able to see the game. Dont muddy the waters with the sky argument... anyone with an internet access could see the 2017 NK final. Not so with sky situation.
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Post by homerj on Nov 29, 2018 9:42:35 GMT
feck sake lads, can we just move on and not talk about last year, yet again?
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Post by Ballyfireside on Nov 29, 2018 9:48:24 GMT
feck sake lads, can we just move on and not talk about last year, yet again? Good stuff. Can someone tell us what then story is down there - Ballyd appear to have recovered from a dip in form and a new manager - How would you rate the three, are Duffers a bigger threat? Senans v poor in '16 final, are Ballyd idlying in front? All we have are Vet's match reports.
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Post by homerj on Nov 29, 2018 13:17:52 GMT
feck sake lads, can we just move on and not talk about last year, yet again? Good stuff. Can someone tell us what then story is down there - Ballyd appear to have recovered from a dip in form and a new manager - How would you rate the three, are Duffers a bigger threat? Senans v poor in '16 final, are Ballyd idlying in front? All we have are Vet's match reports. who is the new ballydonoghue manager?
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Post by abù on Nov 29, 2018 19:41:24 GMT
Can we rename this thread to “ballythefireside yearly moan”. He Has a thing about filling the thread with nonsense.
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