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Post by Kingdomson on Aug 5, 2018 18:05:13 GMT
In order to facilitate a proper discussion all in one place and since this discussion has started to spread out over various threads, perhaps it's best to have a forum discussion on the next possible Kerry football team manager all in one thread.
Recap, just trying to band together those names of possible candidates referenced in other threads.
Liam Kearns Peter Keane Pat O'Shea Donie Buckley Jack O'Connor John Sugrue John Evans Diarmuid Murphy Mike Quirke Maurice Fitzgerald
Others??
Eamonn in an interview I heard some where today (possibly OTB) said, it's possible one of his management team might like to step up into a different role - I'm thinking it's Maurice but surely be to buddha it cannot be Liam Hassett? I genuinely think we need a complete fresh start and a total break off from the current management team.
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Post by greengold35 on Aug 5, 2018 18:22:10 GMT
In order to facilitate a proper discussion all in one place and since this discussion has started to spread out over various threads, perhaps it's best to have a forum discussion on the next possible Kerry football team manager all in one thread. Recap, just trying to band together those names of possible candidates referenced in other threads. Liam Kearns Peter Keane Pat O'Shea Donie Buckley Jack O'Connor John Sugrue John Evans Diarmuid Murphy Mike Quirke Maurice Fitzgerald Others?? Eamonn in an interview I heard some where today (possibly OTB) said, it's possible one of his management team might like to step up into a different role - I'm thinking it's Maurice but surely be to buddha it cannot be Liam Hassett? I genuinely think we need a complete fresh start and a total break off from the current management team. Donie doesn’t do bainisteoir! He is a coach, maybe a selector too but primarily a coach. I would add Seán Geaney - returned to management this year with Dingle, was previously successful with U-21s.
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Post by john4 on Aug 5, 2018 18:55:46 GMT
Should Jimmy Keane not be considered as a possible candidate, I know other countries don't really put that much energy into the Junior all Ireland championship but 2 worthy successes none the less. An all Ireland club title also to his name, I know not at senior grade but again equally as difficult to win
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2018 18:57:51 GMT
He should certainly be on the list albeit not at the top of it in my view
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Post by 6 in a row on Aug 5, 2018 19:42:30 GMT
Stephen Wallace?
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Post by giveandgo on Aug 5, 2018 19:43:51 GMT
Martin horgan deserves a mention. Did great work with limerick u20s this year.
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Post by Kingdomson on Aug 5, 2018 19:59:02 GMT
Liam Kearns Peter Keane Pat O'Shea Donie Buckley Jack O'Connor John Sugrue John Evans Diarmuid Murphy Mike Quirke Maurice Fitzgerald Jimmy Keane Others?
Added Jimmy Keane to the list! The listed names are not ranked in any order of preference but what would others top 3 choices in order of preference be?
I can make a start:
1) Peter Keane 2) John Sugrue 3) Pat O'Shea
I could definitely stretch this list out to include Liam Kearns next or Donie Buckley and of course would love espcially to see Donie Buckley involved in a coaching capacity.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Aug 5, 2018 20:01:12 GMT
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Post by ciarrailar on Aug 5, 2018 20:08:08 GMT
I think his chances might be shot after sideline antics at a club match....
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Post by richard00 on Aug 5, 2018 20:20:00 GMT
Pat Driscoll ?
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Post by john4 on Aug 5, 2018 20:34:52 GMT
My 1,2,3 would actually be as you have them there
1, Liam Kerins 2, Peter Keane 3, Pat O'Shea
Again having Donie Buckley would be massive
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Post by Attacking Wing Back on Aug 5, 2018 20:45:49 GMT
Wallace is a loose cannon, I presume his name was in jest?
John Evans is a bluffer and always was. Talks a good game but that's about it. Things weren't long going to pot in roscommon. Was practically ran out of tipp in the end as well.
The narries have been a mess defensively before Quirke got involved and hasnt improved that area a great deal so don't see how he will do it at inter county level.
Steven stack took a pretty average stacks team to wirhini a whisker of an all Ireland club final. If not the main man he would be good on the ticket.
Kerry juniors played well under Jimmy Keane and he did well with brosna. I don't know about the step up to be honest. Ditto Pat o Driscoll.
There is no real outstanding candidate with experience apart from Pat O'Shea. If he wants it or not is another thing. There is no one the really stands out in club football in Kerry to be honest.
The standard of senior club football is poor enough. There is only the sporadic challenge to crokes
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Post by hesflyin on Aug 5, 2018 20:45:51 GMT
I would like to see maurice fitz giving a chance with donie buckley as physical trainer. I think declan o sullivan and gooch as selectors would be a good fit.
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Post by clarinman on Aug 5, 2018 20:50:35 GMT
I would like to see maurice fitz giving a chance with donie buckley as physical trainer. I think declan o sullivan and gooch as selectors would be a good fit. I don't think that anyone who has played with the current panel should be involved.
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Post by Attacking Wing Back on Aug 5, 2018 21:20:13 GMT
We need someone that can put a plan in place but also react to games as they happen.
Wether that's one man or a management team doesn't matter. In the current managment team we had M Fitz, Mikey, Hassett who were all forwards. Eamonn was the head man so was he doing the hands on coaching as well with the backs? I think that's where someone like donie Buckley can come in. Or Tommy Griffin.
In fairness I don't mind having someone recently retired involved as a selector as they are up with the modern game. Our most recently retired player on the line was Eamonn who retired in 06 I think. A lot has changed in 12 years. Then again Jack O'Connor had Ger O'Keffee and Johnny Culloty on the line with him.
Any thought for Moynihan as part of the package?
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Post by oldschool on Aug 5, 2018 21:37:16 GMT
Diarmuid Murphy would be my choice. Should have good understanding of defending and kick outs, the two areas that have been beating us. Imagine Diarmuid as manager with Donie Buckley as coach and Maurice Fitz on board also.
I really wonder if Pat O Shea or Jack O Connor would be interested. Doubt it.
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Post by oldschool on Aug 5, 2018 21:43:26 GMT
Joe Brolly?
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Post by oldschool on Aug 5, 2018 21:44:18 GMT
Joe Brolly? Joking
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 5, 2018 21:45:46 GMT
On the Sunday Game, Pat Spillane complimented Tyrone on their defensive system. Sean Cavanagh looked stunned.
He also went on about the importance of the kickouts in the modern game.
Is Pat about to throw his hat in the ring!
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Post by richard00 on Aug 5, 2018 22:08:04 GMT
Wallace is a loose cannon, I presume his name was in jest? John Evans is a bluffer and always was. Talks a good game but that's about it. Things weren't long going to pot in roscommon. Was practically ran out of tipp in the end as well. The narries have been a mess defensively before Quirke got involved and hasnt improved that area a great deal so don't see how he will do it at inter county level. Steven stack took a pretty average stacks team to wirhini a whisker of an all Ireland club final. If not the main man he would be good on the ticket. Kerry juniors played well under Jimmy Keane and he did well with brosna. I don't know about the step up to be honest. Ditto Pat o Driscoll. There is no real outstanding candidate with experience apart from Pat O'Shea. If he wants it or not is another thing. There is no one the really stands out in club football in Kerry to be honest. The standard of senior club football is poor enough. There is only the sporadic challenge to crokes what you mean by ditto pat Driscoll
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 5, 2018 22:49:14 GMT
Its a no brainer for me.
If Peter Keane wants it, he should have it.
The natural progression would have been for him to take the u20 in 2018 and i believe Kerry would be u20 All Ireland champs tonight if he had. There would be little need for discussion if that had happened.
Jim Gavin progressed to Dublin manager via underage management and progressed up along in the same manner.
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Aug 5, 2018 23:15:42 GMT
We need someone that can put a plan in place but also react to games as they happen. Wether that's one man or a management team doesn't matter. In the current managment team we had M Fitz, Mikey, Hassett who were all forwards. Eamonn was the head man so was he doing the hands on coaching as well with the backs? I think that's where someone like donie Buckley can come in. Or Tommy Griffin. In fairness I don't mind having someone recently retired involved as a selector as they are up with the modern game. Our most recently retired player on the line was Eamonn who retired in 06 I think. A lot has changed in 12 years. Then again Jack O'Connor had Ger O'Keffee and Johnny Culloty on the line with him. Any thought for Moynihan as part of the package? I think Moynihan would be an excellent choice as a selector. A leader of men and a calm and intelligent head. Too early for him now but I think a future Kerry Senior Manager!? I heard he has Fossa playing brilliant football.
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Post by a01bf4eb on Aug 6, 2018 0:02:14 GMT
In order to facilitate a proper discussion all in one place and since this discussion has started to spread out over various threads, perhaps it's best to have a forum discussion on the next possible Kerry football team manager all in one thread. Recap, just trying to band together those names of possible candidates referenced in other threads. Liam Kearns Peter Keane Pat O'Shea Donie Buckley Jack O'Connor John Sugrue John Evans Diarmuid Murphy Mike Quirke Maurice Fitzgerald Others?? Eamonn in an interview I heard some where today (possibly OTB) said, it's possible one of his management team might like to step up into a different role - I'm thinking it's Maurice but surely be to buddha it cannot be Liam Hassett? I genuinely think we need a complete fresh start and a total break off from the current management team. Donie doesn’t do bainisteoir! He is a coach, maybe a selector too but primarily a coach. I would add Seán Geaney - returned to management this year with Dingle, was previously successful with U-21s.
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Post by a01bf4eb on Aug 6, 2018 0:06:25 GMT
I would have thought that MF is the only man with the status to take over. Can I just put on record that I think Fitzmaurice was an excellent manager who took over during a serious position of transition. And also, fair enough we all have our opinions but those who posted abusive messages and/or sent letters to players are absolute low life’s. That man was so honest and hard working for Kerry football for no financial gain. Shame on all of those who resorted to such shameful tactics.
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Post by Attacking Wing Back on Aug 6, 2018 0:36:31 GMT
Wallace is a loose cannon, I presume his name was in jest? John Evans is a bluffer and always was. Talks a good game but that's about it. Things weren't long going to pot in roscommon. Was practically ran out of tipp in the end as well. The narries have been a mess defensively before Quirke got involved and hasnt improved that area a great deal so don't see how he will do it at inter county level. Steven stack took a pretty average stacks team to wirhini a whisker of an all Ireland club final. If not the main man he would be good on the ticket. Kerry juniors played well under Jimmy Keane and he did well with brosna. I don't know about the step up to be honest. Ditto Pat o Driscoll. There is no real outstanding candidate with experience apart from Pat O'Shea. If he wants it or not is another thing. There is no one the really stands out in club football in Kerry to be honest. The standard of senior club football is poor enough. There is only the sporadic challenge to crokes what you mean by ditto pat Driscoll Sorry, mistyped. About the step up from winning, junior and intermediate club. Also he had a poor spell with the minors
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Post by Attacking Wing Back on Aug 6, 2018 0:53:42 GMT
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Post by kerryboy83 on Aug 6, 2018 9:55:56 GMT
Whoever the next manager is, our style of defending must be looked at.? In our 12 games this year from league to championship, we conceded 16 goals and 157 points.. with regards to goals, we kept clean sheets against Kildare in the league and Clare in the championship. Not good enough.
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Post by Corner Back on Aug 6, 2018 10:36:41 GMT
I would like to see maurice fitz giving a chance with donie buckley as physical trainer. I think declan o sullivan and gooch as selectors would be a good fit. Donnie Buckley is a coach, not a physical trainer.
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Post by Kingdomson on Aug 6, 2018 10:48:49 GMT
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Post by dabomber on Aug 6, 2018 11:25:32 GMT
Would anyone recommend Marc o Se as part of the ticket or Dara O Cinneide, seemed to have done well with Gealtact.
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