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Post by Annascaultilidie on Aug 6, 2018 21:57:20 GMT
Looks like at least one of those leaving the ground early on Saturday has identified themselves 😀😄 😂😂 No I wasn't there I am in enemy territory minding a puppy. No idea what KD's post is... I saw the exodus on SKY down the pub.
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Post by kerrygold on Aug 6, 2018 21:57:38 GMT
Looks like at least one of those leaving the ground early on Saturday has identified themselves 😀😄 Funny man. I was so busy watching the game I didn't even see them leaving to be honest.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2018 21:58:58 GMT
Looks like at least one of those leaving the ground early on Saturday has identified themselves 😀😄 Funny man. I was so busy watching the game I didn't even see them leaving to be honest. Fair enough then, what a supporter you are 😀😀
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Aug 6, 2018 22:00:24 GMT
Looks like at least one of those leaving the ground early on Saturday has identified themselves 😀😄 Funny man. I was so busy watching the game I didn't even see them leaving to be honest. What is/was uncalled for?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2018 22:00:57 GMT
Looks like at least one of those leaving the ground early on Saturday has identified themselves 😀😄 😂😂 No I wasn't there I am in enemy territory minding a puppy. No idea what KD's post is... I saw the exodus on SKY down the pub. I will let him explain why he was so bothered.
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Post by kerrygold on Aug 6, 2018 22:01:46 GMT
Funny man. I was so busy watching the game I didn't even see them leaving to be honest. Fair enough then, what a supporter you are 😀😀 No point in responding to that crap
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2018 22:02:58 GMT
Fair enough then, what a supporter you are 😀😀 No point in responding to that crap Great, if only this was the case all the time.
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Post by sayitasiseeit on Aug 6, 2018 22:04:54 GMT
A lot of talk about Donnie Buckley on here. Playing Devils Advocate for a minute, would Donnie want to come back into the fold after the way he was treated and annexed the last time??
Personally I don’t know the man but from what I hear he has an insatiable appetite for coaching and developing players. Ordinarily I think he would be slow to come back, but I think for a man that has that level of enthusiasm, I don’t think he’ll pass up the chance to work with David Clifford. That alone would attract him back. The most impressive 19 year old to pay the game since Maurice Fitz got an all star for kicking 10 or 11 points against Cork back in 1988
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Post by southward on Aug 6, 2018 22:07:03 GMT
"At Fitzgerald Stadium on Saturday there was no entertainment whatsoever – not a single note – despite the fact that the call went out for supporters to arrive early to avail of the best seats in the house."Ah now, there's a lot bothering him. Making us out to be a right shower of nanas here. We came to see a football match ffs.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2018 22:07:25 GMT
A lot of talk about Donnie Buckley on here. Playing Devils Advocate for a minute, would Donnie want to come back into the fold after the way he was treated and annexed the last time?? Personally I don’t know the man but from what I hear he has an insatiable appetite for coaching and developing players. Ordinarily I think he would be slow to come back, but I think for a man that has that level of enthusiasm, I don’t think he’ll pass up the chance to work with David Clifford. That alone would attract him back. The most impressive 19 year old to pay the game since Maurice Fitz got an all star for kicking 10 or 11 points against Cork back in 1988 The consensus seems to be that donie is not the main guy. It all depends then on the type of working relationship he could build with someone he doesn't really know.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Aug 6, 2018 22:09:54 GMT
Just learned that Donie Buckley had input into Moycullen when they beat Annascaul in the AIISF in 2007/8.
Heart breaker.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Aug 6, 2018 22:12:19 GMT
"At Fitzgerald Stadium on Saturday there was no entertainment whatsoever – not a single note – despite the fact that the call went out for supporters to arrive early to avail of the best seats in the house."Ah now, there's a lot bothering him. Making us out to be a right shower of nanas here. We came to see a football match ffs. Ha that article is hilarious.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2018 22:18:07 GMT
"At Fitzgerald Stadium on Saturday there was no entertainment whatsoever – not a single note – despite the fact that the call went out for supporters to arrive early to avail of the best seats in the house."Ah now, there's a lot bothering him. Making us out to be a right shower of nanas here. We came to see a football match ffs. Ha that article is hilarious. To be fair, while the article is a bit much, there is a kernel of truth in respect of how poor a ground it is. Take away the view and there is not a lot to be said for the stadium.
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Post by southward on Aug 6, 2018 22:20:03 GMT
"At Fitzgerald Stadium on Saturday there was no entertainment whatsoever – not a single note – despite the fact that the call went out for supporters to arrive early to avail of the best seats in the house."Ah now, there's a lot bothering him. Making us out to be a right shower of nanas here. We came to see a football match ffs. Ha that article is hilarious. He wouldn't want to be in Ballylongford for a midwinter NK championship game.
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Aug 6, 2018 22:42:44 GMT
What players will call it a day? I think Darren, Walsh, Donaghy, Young and Maher need to call it a day. For the good of the team and also their own legacies. I also think Jack Savage, Brendan O'Sullivan and Fionn Fitzgerald need to be dropped from the panel when the new man comes in.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Aug 6, 2018 23:58:18 GMT
Looks like at least one of those leaving the ground early on Saturday has identified themselves 😀😄 😂😂 No I wasn't there I am in enemy territory minding a puppy. No idea what KD's post is... I saw the exodus on SKY down the pub. Actually it was great to have SKY broadcast this game. If it was just RTÉ it might not have been shown probably...
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 7, 2018 8:12:53 GMT
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 7, 2018 8:22:52 GMT
from 3.30 onwards ....EF says says he has seen very little negativity personally.... where did this hate letters stuff come from?
He is aware of negativity around the group and its not great for younger players....fair enough. He never says young players were subjected to negativity... that was fake news.
Reading between the lines .... my take is that he is having a pop at Darraghs article after the Galway game.
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Post by ciarrai78 on Aug 7, 2018 11:46:03 GMT
Now that the dust has settled after Saturday evening, I’ll put forward my own views:
We were poor for thirty five minutes on Saturday evening and were six points down when Kildare had a man sent off. Logic tells me that had they maintained their full complement of players, we would have been beaten but football is not logical and we’ll never know ….. which is just as well. We did well in the second half and really cut loose. It’s just a pity we didn’t play with such abandon at times in the other two matches.
I believe Eamonn Fitz made the correct decision in walking away. He has given the job his very best over six years and deserves our gratitude. On the positive side, during his tenure, Kerry won every trophy available to us, and in the last year in particular he has blooded a lot of new players who will undoubtedly serve us well in the future. The negatives for me would be, and this is only my perception, the “insulation” of the county panel from the clubs and the general feeling that they have become in someway detached from the supporters and the Kerry public. Also, some of the selections and sideline decisions in recent years have been puzzling. That said, making sideline calls in the white heat of championship is not easy and it is almost impossible to achieve a consensus on what the right call might be, even in hindsight. To sum up on Eamonn Fitz, he deserves our gratitude and I would have to commend him on the way he carried himself both on the sideline and in interviews. He was never involved in any of the nasty stuff, and in interviews he always came across as an honest and intelligent gentleman. Overall, a credit to Kerry.
I note that “keyboard warriors” have come in for a lot of criticism over the past few days. I sincerely hope that such criticism is not aimed in the direction of the contributors to this forum. Whatever about being keyboard warriors, many of the contributors to this forum are “road warriors” who travel up and down the country summer and winter to support our footballers, and are passionate supporters. We are, I believe, honest in our appraisal of matters on and off the field and generally call matters as we see them. Furthermore we have a right to comment and are doing so in a forum created and moderated by county board appointed controllers.
Turning to the question of a successor to Eamon Fitz, personally, I would like to see Pat O’Shea appointed. He has plenty of experience both as a player and a coach and I think he would be a great appointment. I agree that securing the services of Donie Buckley is vital. Maurice Fitz in my view should remain on the backroom team. In terms of new people, how about appointing Eoin Liston as a selector? He is a deep thinker on the game, a good coach in his own right and would command the immediate respect of all the panel. Failing the appointment of Pat O’Shea, I would look to Liam Kearns. Consideration should also be given to finding a role for Stephen Stack in the new set up.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Aug 7, 2018 11:59:16 GMT
A small remark. There have been a number of comments about Kerry players going back to the clubs more. Your Kerry regulars play a bit over the year. For example, a Paul Geaney plays with Dingle for one or two county league games, club and county championship, and West Kerry Championship. As well as League and Championship with the county.
The problem, if I am not mistaken, is players 20-40 who are being held back from county league.
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Post by An Bradán on Aug 7, 2018 12:01:03 GMT
I could not believe my eyes when I saw Kerry supporters streaming out of Fitzgerald Stadium last Saturday night. Why ? Traffic? I never had less trouble negotiating my way. They left at a time when we were playing our best football since the. Muster Final, albeit against fourteen men. Most of them seemed to be heading home through the scoreboard terrace side where young David was regaling us. What did he think? Did he say to himself “ I would be better off in Australia, making a few bob for myself “ Shameless. If Mikey made a a mistake it was in not asking supporters to attend matches but rather in not pleading with those who travelled to stay to the end in order to encourage the young lads. Of course we have been spoiled down the decades from Mick O’Connell to young David. How many of us are worthy of all those incomparable men? Reflecting on that exodus , imagine rushing away when Kerry are in town knowing that we will not see them again until next February.. It would be no surprise if it transpired that some of those making for the highway were authors of those poison letters to EF.]] Pretty much my own thoughts Veteran, we have fair weather fans aplenty. It was noticeable that Paul Geaney was trying to gee up the crowd early on in the second half too. Support does make a difference and there was a stream of people leaving from 10/15 minutes to go. Embarrassing and hardly encouraging for the younger players especially. When the stadium announcer said there was an additional 5 minutes there was an audible groan around the stadium. I know it was gone from Kerry at that stage but was it really that bad to watch a largely young team give it their best shot. It reminds me of that scene from "Gladiator" when Russell Crowe (Maximus I believe) berates the crowd for their lack of response " Are you not entertained" ?
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Post by buck02 on Aug 7, 2018 12:15:25 GMT
In reply to the last post, if Paul Geaney had geed himself up before the Galway and Monaghan games, we'd be in a semi final now.
We were 6 points down against Kildare at one stage while Monaghan were comfortable against Galway at the same time.
What did they expect us to do, wave scarves over our heads or belt out a rendition of The Rose of Tralee.
All this talk about supporters leaving early and poison letters is all deflecting nicely from the piss poor performances we have seen from many of the players over the last 4 weeks.
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Post by An Bradán on Aug 7, 2018 12:28:25 GMT
Some of the names being bandied about to be involved from here on are curious. Some have had varying degrees of success in management. Also we've heard nothing from the rest of the management team. I'm presuming most have done their time or would the likes of Mikey Sheeny wish to stay on. For what it's worth here is my take on a few names regarding future manager/ selectors. I'm not even considering John Sugrue as I'd imagine he's tied to Laois for the future, he's a big loss to Kerry.
I guess I better start taking cover.
Thanks but no thanks - John Evans, Jerome Stack, Liam Hassett, Jack O'Connor and his crew, Pat O'Driscoll
Possible coaches or selectors - Donie Buckley, Maurice Fitz, Diarmuid Murphy, Steven Stack, Gooch, Sean the Bawn
Manager / Chief - Pat O'Shea, Peter Keane
I've undoubtedly forgotten some guys but I'm sure it will be pointed out to me fast.
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Post by An Bradán on Aug 7, 2018 12:29:49 GMT
In reply to the last post, if Paul Geaney had geed himself up before the Galway and Monaghan games, we'd be in a semi final now. We were 6 points down against Kildare at one stage while Monaghan were comfortable against Galway at the same time. What did they expect us to do, wave scarves over our heads or belt out a rendition of The Rose of Tralee. All this talk about supporters leaving early and poison letters is all deflecting nicely from the piss poor performances we have seen from many of the players over the last 4 weeks. I actually agree with you but it doesn't invalidate my point about our element of piss poor supporters too.
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 7, 2018 12:39:16 GMT
All this talk about supporters leaving early and poison letters is all deflecting nicely from the piss poor performances we have seen from many of the players over the last 4 weeks. Who got the poison letters? EF says he has seen very "little negativity personally". Where did this poison letters story originate. Kerry fans are being tarnished terribly if this is fake news.
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Post by buck02 on Aug 7, 2018 12:47:19 GMT
All this talk about supporters leaving early and poison letters is all deflecting nicely from the piss poor performances we have seen from many of the players over the last 4 weeks. Who got the poison letters? EF says he has seen very "little negativity personally". Where did this poison letters story originate. Kerry fans are being tarnished terribly if this is fake news. Check out Tony Leens tweet from Saturday night.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Aug 7, 2018 13:11:45 GMT
Who got the poison letters? EF says he has seen very "little negativity personally". Where did this poison letters story originate. Kerry fans are being tarnished terribly if this is fake news. Check out Tony Leens tweet from Saturday night.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Aug 7, 2018 13:16:59 GMT
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Post by ciarrai78 on Aug 7, 2018 13:27:47 GMT
It's arguable that the "anonymous letter" is almost part of our culture. I seem to recall that Ogie Moran was the recipient of some choice correspondence during his tenure in the early nineties. There is an article in today's Examiner where Anthony Daly writes of the letters he received while coaching Clare and there is reference to the same sort of thing also in other counties. Recently one of the RTE weather forecasters (Joanna Donnelly I believe) posted on twitter a copy of an anonymous letter she received following her coverage of Storm Ophelia. Apparently she was getting too big for her boots! My point is that the sending of anonymous letters is certainly not a Kerry phenomenon, and it is not confined to the GAA either.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Aug 7, 2018 13:27:57 GMT
Watching that video there is no mention of anonymous mail and he never references "criticism of young players". He says criticism of the team affects younger players. Slightly different.
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