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Post by Mickmack on Aug 4, 2018 20:02:37 GMT
I think Eamonn did the right thing in stepping down now.
He took the job when Kerry football was going into decline and he gave it his all.
He did it his way as the song goes and many of his decisions baffled me and many others.
2014 remains a great achievement.
He was unlucky to be there when Dublin's greatest team ever was at its peak.
Enjoy your retirement Eamonn and thanks for all your efforts for the green and gold.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Aug 4, 2018 20:11:54 GMT
I give thanks for 2014.
I give him credit for that.
Extra time in Limerick and An Poc At Buile on the Hill after the final are great, great memories.
The 2013 semi final against Dublin was a privilege to attend. The first half with the Gooch at 11 was the most electrifying football I have ever seen.
The most attractive football I have ever seen was played by EF sides against Cork.
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Post by gaelicden on Aug 4, 2018 20:14:39 GMT
I think Eamonn did the right thing in stepping down now. He took the job when Kerry football was going into decline and he gave it his all. He did it his way as the song goes and many of his decisions baffled me and many others. 2014 remains a great achievement. He was unlucky to be there when Dublin's greatest team ever was at its peak. Enjoy your retirement Eamonn and thanks for all your efforts for the green and gold. What can we say, he won us an all Ireland when maybe we shouldn't have won one. We mightn't have agreed with his choice of tactics or decisions but it kept us relevant in an era where numerous other teams (Mayo and Dublin especially) were far greater than us. Maybe he could've achieved more maybe he couldn't, in fairness we weren't rich in young talent when he arrived on the hot seat. Now is probably the time to go, let someone else have a crack at bringing a young Kerry team to the pinnacle of Irish sport, but overall he achieved more with less, and just remember if it was not for him we could have been heading into our 10th year without an all Ireland and fallen off the radar at that. So with that enjoy your retirement Eamonn, the man who kept Kerry afloat during a lost era in Kerry football.
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Post by riverfeale on Aug 4, 2018 20:24:17 GMT
Thanks for your service Éamonn, let’s move on and put it behind us and learn from it. New manager Peter Keane ? I don t thinks so he has yet to prove himself at this level, won 2 handy minor titles with the likes of David Clifford and Seanie O Shea. New man has to be Liam Kerins with support from Donie Buckley and Jerome Stack, Men with modern football brains and experience I would also put in Maurice Fitz, we also need a goalkeeping coach like Diarmuid Murphy, Get plenty of heads in there with experience in their chosen field , S&C , nutrition, phsycology, etc. just like Dublin have been doing for years. We were years behind everyone years ago until we set up a proper development squads , results - numerous under age titles Time to set up professionally or we will be left behind yet again, with Currans finally up and running now (again years behind other counties ) We need to push on and stop living on past glories and tradition, hard work, balls, and forward thinking from now no to get us back to the top table. !!!!!!!!
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Post by piggott on Aug 4, 2018 20:24:20 GMT
Hope they come out of the bubble before choosing a successor. Maybe back to the clubs rather than leaving it to executive. Paidi was not wanted for years. He was outside the bubble.
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Post by Jigz84 on Aug 4, 2018 20:25:59 GMT
Tim Murphy and the County Board would want to take a long, hard look at themselves for giving Fitzmaurice another 3 years last September.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Aug 4, 2018 20:33:10 GMT
Tim Murphy and the County Board would want to take a long, hard look at themselves for giving Fitzmaurice another 3 years last September. After not going in 2015 I thought that was fair enough.
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Post by wayupnorth on Aug 4, 2018 20:55:11 GMT
Just imagining what it would have been like if his managerial career had gone the other way around.... Just transpose 2013 with 2018 and so on:
2013: A new manager, a team in transition and a new competition format. A loss a draw and a win in the Super 8s. A great base to build on.
2014: Cruised to the semi-final but a bit of naivety in the replay results in a comprehensive defeat. Never mind onwards and upwards.
2015: We reach the semis against the reigning champions and nearly pull it off only for a questionable ref decision. We will surely reach the final next year.
2016: We get to the Final but narrowly lose after an uncharacteristicly flat performance. But we will surely win next year!
2017: We did it! Kerry win their 37th All Ireland title.
2018: Sadly after a game that will be remembered as one of the all time classics the Kingdom are beaten by Dublin in the semi final. Eamonn who has given his all for the Kingdom steering them through a period of transition to the top decides to step down as Kerry are in great shape for the new manager.
Looked at it that way, it could be seen as quite a successful career (in any county but Kerry). Eamonn’s success came early and unfortunately nothing thereafter quite matched up to it.
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Post by kerryborder on Aug 4, 2018 21:03:57 GMT
Just in and heard the news. Turned on rte and heard the interview. First recation- I thought he was fairly disengenuous. All about the players etc...
No sense of wrong calls decisions etc but stayed the party line re players etc. As I say a trite disengenuous.
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Post by wayupnorth on Aug 4, 2018 21:08:47 GMT
Just in and heard the news. Turned on rte and heard the interview. First recation- I thought he was fairly disengenuous. All about the players etc... No sense of wrong calls decisions etc but stayed the party line re players etc. As I say a trite disengenuous. That did occur to me as well when I saw the interview. I think he said he was stepping down to protect the players from public opinion. I don’t think the players have anything to worry about In this respect.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Aug 4, 2018 21:10:56 GMT
The players are well supported.
Moran the only player getting regular flack.
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Post by An Bradán on Aug 4, 2018 21:14:32 GMT
Thanks Eamonn. It's the correct call and hopefully we can move forward from here. Haven't seen any interview. There's a time and a place for everything and this evening isn't the time to stick the knife in.
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Post by keane on Aug 4, 2018 21:15:45 GMT
The players are well supported. Moran the only player getting regular flack. Despite carrying us on his back for a long time.
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Post by An Bradán on Aug 4, 2018 21:16:55 GMT
The players are well supported. Moran the only player getting regular flack. Kerry supporters streaming out early as usual today. From 15 minutes before the end of the game. Many Kerry "supporters" don't deserve the team we have. Shameful and not the first time either.
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Post by thebluepanther on Aug 4, 2018 21:18:48 GMT
I've always liked the way EF conducted himself, he gave everything for his county as a player and put his hand up to take on a very difficult job as a manager, someone suggested last night that he gets perks with the job and not to feel sorry for him, ,EF didn't need any perks, he had the passion and love for his county to take on the challenge . He has also won an All Ireland as a manager, not a lot can say that. I was going to post last night that the likes of Ewan mc Kenna a guy who lives in Brazil who doesn't attend Gaa Games but relays on forums such as this for his articles shouldn't be given oxygen to write about EF. Yet people here felt he was spot on. Off course it sounded spot on , he was reading your posts and Hoganstand posts and then producing an article. If nothing else I'm glad EF doesn't have to be judged by this journalist and possibly others that would have jumped out of the woodwork for the remainder of the summer, had he stayed on . He deserves better.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Aug 4, 2018 21:19:46 GMT
The players are well supported. Moran the only player getting regular flack. Despite carrying us on his back for a long time. Amen. You won't find me criticising him. He is a favourite of mine.
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Post by kerryborder on Aug 4, 2018 21:28:57 GMT
In reply Bradan Feasa
No knife in
I still think he was an honest player and a decent manager who lost his way over the last 2 years in particular.That did'nt dim his desire in any way but the dynamic needed just seemed to escape him and he struggled. That is my view.
I still would have good time for him.
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Post by Jigz84 on Aug 4, 2018 21:32:41 GMT
The players are well supported. Moran the only player getting regular flack. Kerry supporters streaming out early as usual today. From 15 minutes before the end of the game. Many Kerry "supporters" don't deserve the team we have. Shameful and not the first time either. At least they stayed for the second half. I wouldn't have blamed them for not doing so.
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Post by jumanji on Aug 4, 2018 21:46:00 GMT
That interview on off the ball reeks of anger and resentment from fitzmaurice towards kerry and the fans. Anyway, fitzmaurice took kerry at a time when no one else had the desire so fair play to him for that. So what will be his legacy. My own thoughts are that eamonn even though he poured his heart and sole into the job he never really brought the team to a place where we could consistently challenge over the past 6 years, mainly due to wrong or negative tactics, poor team selection and preparation and key decisions during games that baffled. Kerry under eamonn were neither here nor there - no identity. His players development was questioned at times. Secondly people here talking of Liam kearns and jerome stack. If that's the best we got then we are in trouble. Donie Buckley to play a part, as he has proven track recordown. What about outside the county? Jim McGuinness?
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Post by sullyschoice on Aug 4, 2018 22:01:50 GMT
That last line isn't even funny😣😣😣
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Post by kerryfanatic on Aug 4, 2018 22:11:46 GMT
Thank you to eamon Fitzmaurice for everything, all his dedication, hard work and love for kerry, an all Ireland we won and many Munster titles and league title. Always a gentleman a classy guy.
As for his successor dare I say Jack o Connor, he definitely knows his stuff and has a proven track record!!!!
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Post by taggert on Aug 4, 2018 22:22:15 GMT
Thank you to eamon Fitzmaurice for everything, all his dedication, hard work and love for kerry, an all Ireland we won and many Munster titles and league title. Always a gentleman a classy guy. As for his successor dare I say Jack o Connor, he definitely knows his stuff and has a proven track record!!!! His record over the last 3 years at u21/u20 will preclude him. Time to move forward not backwards. Jack has become a dinosaur - half the people on this forum could have won thise 2 All Ireland minors as they had brilliant players.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2018 22:35:58 GMT
He got us an All Ireland in 2014. I give him credit for that. Overall though I think he did a poor job and was a poor manager. The job was too big for him.
His decision making , tactics , and game plan was bad and it cost us on a few occasions. He couldn’t beat the Dubs and Gavin beat him on the line in every game. He should have gone in 2016. I think we got worse every year from 2014 and the writing was on the ball especially after the Mayo game last year.
I wish him well in the future.
I think we do have some good young talent coming through and now is the time to get rid of at least half of this panel and start fresh. As stated Liam Kerins or Peter Keane would both be good. I would totally clear out this Management and bring in a brand new group.
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Post by factman on Aug 4, 2018 22:47:56 GMT
I think the fact eamon has now announced his retirement is good news for kerry gaa so now we have a period to reflect but surely we must spare a huge thought for maybe at least 6 members of the panel who have won all and now regardless of who take over must be brave and know they owe the county nothing
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2018 23:05:01 GMT
Does anyone think we would have won more all Irelands with a different manager
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Post by southward on Aug 4, 2018 23:10:46 GMT
Does anyone think we would have won more all Irelands with a different manager Ah, who knows? Mayo tried a few managers and still no luck.
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Post by Exiled2Dublin on Aug 4, 2018 23:50:42 GMT
Does anyone think we would have won more all Irelands with a different manager No, I think we'd have won one less🤔 Eamonn did us proud. He was unlucky to have one great bunch of fellas coming to the end of their careers and another great bunch just starting out. Never got to work with either in their prime. I think he made better decisions overall than he's given credit for by many people. Certainly he never stinted in application of effort or dedication on the field or on the sideline. A true gentleman, a proud Kerryman. His place in the history books is secure.
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Post by f5 on Aug 4, 2018 23:52:11 GMT
Seems like there are some similarities between the Kerry football and Tipperary hurling situations. New management teams took over veteran teams, had early success and then the results tailed off over time. Both management teams ultimately move on at roughly the same time. It seemed the management in both cases seemed to lose the plot with teams that had higher hopes. Kerry is a much younger team of course with greater growth potential from some young future superstars. It will take some time to fill some holes and sort things out, a process best left to new blood perhaps.
Great thanks nonetheless to Eamon and the management team for years of dedicated service
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Post by greengold35 on Aug 5, 2018 0:05:43 GMT
Thanks for your service Éamonn, let’s move on and put it behind us and learn from it. New manager Peter Keane ? I don t thinks so he has yet to prove himself at this level, won 2 handy minor titles with the likes of David Clifford and Seanie O Shea. New man has to be Liam Kerins with support from Donie Buckley and Jerome Stack, Men with modern football brains and experience I would also put in Maurice Fitz, we also need a goalkeeping coach like Diarmuid Murphy, Get plenty of heads in there with experience in their chosen field , S&C , nutrition, phsycology, etc. just like Dublin have been doing for years. We were years behind everyone years ago until we set up a proper development squads , results - numerous under age titles Time to set up professionally or we will be left behind yet again, with Currans finally up and running now (again years behind other counties ) We need to push on and stop living on past glories and tradition, hard work, balls, and forward thinking from now no to get us back to the top table. !!!!!!!! Jerome didn’t last long in Tipp with Kerins!!
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Post by sullyschoice on Aug 5, 2018 0:13:31 GMT
I don't own a hat but if I did I would eat it if Jack O Connor got the job.
He has sealed his fate with his stewardship of the last two years of very talented players.
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