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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Sept 13, 2018 11:02:57 GMT
No Kerins o rahillys player? And they after beating the champions & favourites! I wouldnt get hung up on it. Some of the reporters for the Kerryman wouldnt know an O'Neills if it hit them in the face. Which it probably would cos they wouldnt be able to catch it. I know but what makes it worse is that South Kerry had 2 lads on the team after losing to a Division 2 side.......
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Post by kerrygold on Sept 13, 2018 12:18:25 GMT
Kenmare didn't want to go senior the year before last, they obviously felt they were not ready for the senior grade. You would think that they wouldve had a decent chance last two years with the district for a county. Similar to west kerry tough without gealtacht and dingle to put a team together. A bit more joined up thinking maybe needed regarding going from Intermediate to senior automatically? You would have a stronger championship also with a full Kenmare district team and a stronger team from the West.
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Post by kerrygold on Sept 13, 2018 12:19:49 GMT
I wouldnt get hung up on it. Some of the reporters for the Kerryman wouldnt know an O'Neills if it hit them in the face. Which it probably would cos they wouldnt be able to catch it. I know but what makes it worse is that South Kerry had 2 lads on the team after losing to a Division 2 side....... Teams of the week are meaningless enough. Fills a bit of paper space....................
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Post by dc84 on Sept 13, 2018 14:05:39 GMT
You would think that they wouldve had a decent chance last two years with the district for a county. Similar to west kerry tough without gealtacht and dingle to put a team together. A bit more joined up thinking maybe needed regarding going from Intermediate to senior automatically? You would have a stronger championship also with a full Kenmare district team and a stronger team from the West. Totally agree ! Kenmare or an gealtacht are 2 fine sides but would be a bit off winning the thing fair enough if you are in a stronger district like rathmore and most of your players wouldnt make the division. It would mean less teams in the co champ but maybe a group stage could be implemented.
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Post by piggott on Sept 13, 2018 14:35:22 GMT
Intermediate winners have no choice, they have to go senior.
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Sept 13, 2018 15:13:40 GMT
I know but what makes it worse is that South Kerry had 2 lads on the team after losing to a Division 2 side....... Teams of the week are meaningless enough. Fills a bit of paper space.................... The division 2 team comment was a joke- might aswell get as much mileage out of it now as they've been promoted again
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Post by dc84 on Sept 13, 2018 17:21:58 GMT
Intermediate winners have no choice, they have to go senior. Oh i know they could still do that for club champ, just think if templenoe won the inter. Then you would have 2 novice clubs making up a county champ team! Makes a bit of a joke of the whole thing.
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Post by southward on Sept 13, 2018 18:41:52 GMT
Dunno know about turning the corner but definitely worth another look. Full Forward probably his only spot you could play him. I have also been impressed with Ross O'Callaghan Paudie Clifford and Evan Cronin have impressed me. All 4 could get a call for Kerry training. People are mad for this 'Tommy can't walk since Australia' narrative. He would/should have been on the field for the last fifteen or twenty minutes of an All Ireland final a couple of years ago only for the Galvin debacle. He has been playing really well for a long time at this stage. Ross was in training with Kerry for a good while this year and going fairly well so far as I know. You've obviously seen more of him than I have and Tommy did look good in the highlights from last weekend, but a Kerry comeback? - not likely at this stage, I'd say. Ciaran Murphy giving it some air here though.. www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/tale-of-kerry-s-twin-towers-may-still-have-another-twist-1.3627016I watched him the week before last against Feale Rangers and I must say he didn't catch the eye at all. Maybe an off-day for him but Tommy is 29/30 now and he's back from Oz for 4 years - if it was going to happen, it surely would have done before now. Love to be wrong here; I was as excited as anyone when we heard Tommy was coming home, but I just can't see it. All in all, from a Kerry perspective, his career trajectory has been one of the really big disappointments of recent times.
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Post by keane on Sept 13, 2018 19:31:00 GMT
People are mad for this 'Tommy can't walk since Australia' narrative. He would/should have been on the field for the last fifteen or twenty minutes of an All Ireland final a couple of years ago only for the Galvin debacle. He has been playing really well for a long time at this stage. Ross was in training with Kerry for a good while this year and going fairly well so far as I know. You've obviously seen more of him than I have and Tommy did look good in the highlights from last weekend, but a Kerry comeback? - not likely at this stage, I'd say. Ciaran Murphy giving it some air here though.. www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/tale-of-kerry-s-twin-towers-may-still-have-another-twist-1.3627016I watched him the week before last against Feale Rangers and I must say he didn't catch the eye at all. Maybe an off-day for him but Tommy is 29/30 now and he's back from Oz for 4 years - if it was going to happen, it surely would have done before now. Love to be wrong here; I was as excited as anyone when we heard Tommy was coming home, but I just can't see it. All in all, from a Kerry perspective, his career trajectory has been one of the really big disappointments of recent times. Oh I don't really know about a Kerry come back at all, as you say age is against him and the game has moved on a lot obviously. I don't get to see as many Strand Road games as I'd like but way more often than not when I do he is one of the best guys on the park if not the best. Maybe if he had been sent to back to play with the club straight away when he came back things might have been different, but having said that he was our best player against Dublin in the league that year and who knows what might have happened if he had been introduced in the final as they struggled badly with Donaghy when he was introduced. I guess if he was from most other counties he would have been playing intercounty the last few years, I guess he'd be one of the best players for most. As it is now with a new manager coming in it might make more sense to focus on new guys. Regardless there seems to be this belief on here that he's been shambling around the field in Strand Road on one leg like the ghost of Christmas Past the last few years that anyone who goes to the games would tell you is far from the truth.
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Post by dc84 on Sept 13, 2018 19:58:18 GMT
You've obviously seen more of him than I have and Tommy did look good in the highlights from last weekend, but a Kerry comeback? - not likely at this stage, I'd say. Ciaran Murphy giving it some air here though.. www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/tale-of-kerry-s-twin-towers-may-still-have-another-twist-1.3627016I watched him the week before last against Feale Rangers and I must say he didn't catch the eye at all. Maybe an off-day for him but Tommy is 29/30 now and he's back from Oz for 4 years - if it was going to happen, it surely would have done before now. Love to be wrong here; I was as excited as anyone when we heard Tommy was coming home, but I just can't see it. All in all, from a Kerry perspective, his career trajectory has been one of the really big disappointments of recent times. Oh I don't really know about a Kerry come back at all, as you say age is against him and the game has moved on a lot obviously. I don't get to see as many Strand Road games as I'd like but way more often than not when I do he is one of the best guys on the park if not the best. Maybe if he had been sent to back to play with the club straight away when he came back things might have been different, but having said that he was our best player against Dublin in the league that year and who knows what might have happened if he had been introduced in the final as they struggled badly with Donaghy when he was introduced. I guess if he was from most other counties he would have been playing intercounty the last few years, I guess he'd be one of the best players for most. As it is now with a new manager coming in it might make more sense to focus on new guys. Regardless there seems to be this belief on here that he's been shambling around the field in Strand Road on one leg like the ghost of Christmas Past the last few years that anyone who goes to the games would tell you is far from the truth. It was as you say too soon when he came back who knows though maybe time/training has strenghtened his hamstring at this stage he would be a good man to bring on last 10 15 mins maybe?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2018 20:12:21 GMT
Good Tommy Walsh interview on Colm Parkinson’s podcast. From a Kerry perspective, he feels could have been given more opportunity which is what you expect him to say. On a comeback he did not rule it out. However he did say the hamstring is only 70% or 80%of what it was. Hard to see how he could come back if that is the case. It is a pity the way it worked out but the reality is that Tommy has been back 4 years now and there is very little to suggest he could ever get back to that level.
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Sept 14, 2018 10:18:57 GMT
Tommy's comeback was very poorly managed in many ways- brought straight back in to the squad when he needed football, lads who had won an AI in 2014 were dropped and then he wasnt really used and Paul Galvin was brought on for 2015 final. It was a shambles across the board
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Post by smokey on Sept 14, 2018 23:21:12 GMT
I was at the East Kerry game at the weekend. East Kerry looked very good in the forwards but the full back line looked vulnerable. Dingle played floating balls into Paul Geaney and it caused consternation. They scored two goals and should have scored more. They don’t seem to have anyone that is good in the air, if they come up against Donaghy its hard to see how they would limit him. Sherwood played well in the sweeping role.
Kevin McCarthy was highly influential when he played a conventional half forward role (carried the ball, laid it off well and scored some long range points). Mid way through the first half he played as a sweeper in front of the half back line, why he went back there I don’t know but all he succeeded in doing was taking himself out of the game. He played as a forward in the second half. Dara Roche was quite prominent, strong as an ox and won great ball and did the right things with it. Paudie Clifford played centre forward and is a much more dynamic player than David, a dangerous ball carrier and set up plenty but had a tendency at times to run into trouble. He’s a left footer as well and scored some nice points. David Clifford scored an absolute peach of a goal. He got the ball about 20 metres out and screwed it into the bottom right hand corner, the keeper didn’t even move he had no chance of saving it.
Brendan Kealy kick outs were poor in the first half (just hitting them long) but they were much better in the second half and he hit his men nearly all the time. Their midfielders weren’t in the game at all in the first half but dominated the second half.
They will be definite contenders if they can sort out the full back line and the midfielders play like they played in the second half. Also leave Kevin McCarthy in the forwards.
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Post by smokey on Sept 14, 2018 23:32:42 GMT
I only saw the first half of the Crokes game but they looked a jaded side. They badly missed Tony Brosnan and White. They need an injection of youth in the backs like Potts and Naughton (although he seems to be in really poor form lately). The mix in the forwards didn’t look quite right, Gooch was playing deeper and that seemed to impede Gavin O’Shea, I’d have only one of them. David Shaw was very impressive, won great ball as a target man full forward and scored a great goal.
All the teams played poorly playing into the scoreboard end against the breeze. The scoreboard must be affecting them as well!
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Post by An Bradán on Sept 15, 2018 8:59:23 GMT
Yesterday evening I think. Have we seen many players make the case for defence? I have seen a good few games over the past two week ends, and it is big scores all round. I have heard good things about Sean T Dillon of Feale Rangers. Apparently he did very well for Feale Rangers in their 2 games. Unfortunately he won't have any more chances to prove himself. He was corner back for the Kerry Minors in 2013. Anyone else know any more about him and would he potentially be of county level? Unfortunately no....not at that level.
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Post by mossie on Sept 15, 2018 16:02:47 GMT
No Kerins o rahillys player? And they after beating the champions & favourites! some joke
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Post by mossie on Sept 15, 2018 16:04:58 GMT
No Kerins o rahillys player? And they after beating the champions & favourites! I wouldnt get hung up on it. Some of the reporters for the Kerryman wouldnt know an O'Neills if it hit them in the face. Which it probably would cos they wouldnt be able to catch it. Timmy Sheehan is good, the rest ….. John Barry is some loss as is Eamon Horan, great reporters in their time
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Post by mossie on Sept 15, 2018 16:09:03 GMT
Mid Kerry 2-09 2-13 Killarney Legion An Ghaeltacht 2-18 0-05 Kenmare District Shannon Rangers 0-16 6-11 St Brendans Rathmore 0-17 0-15 Kenmare Shamrocks That's an odd scoreline. SR hit just one score fewer and still lost by 13 points. Anyone at this game? The Brendans have potentially their strongest team since they reached a senior final in the early 1990s. a lot of talent there if they could mobilise it and gel
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Post by Mickmack on Sept 15, 2018 21:07:57 GMT
Dingle 1-14 v 1-11 St Kieran's
South Kerry 1-15 v 0-11 Rathmore
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Post by greengold35 on Sept 16, 2018 9:49:00 GMT
South Kerry were too good for a disappointing Rathmore side on Sat evening in Killorglin; playing into the stiff breeze, SK were on top at midfield through Bryan Sheehan and Denis Daly and with Niall O'Shea having the better of matters at full forward, they were able to work their scores easier than the EK side; the decisive moment came on 21 minutes when Rathmore were twice foiled with goal attempts and SK worked the ball upfield for Bryan Sheehan to finish low to the corner past the keeper - it was 1-08 to 0-06 at half time which was a just reflection on proceedings.
Rathmore rejigged at half time with Paul Murphy now on the "40" and being joined by his Kerry colleague Mark Griffin who moved from full back; SK now played a more orthodox 15 with Conor O'Shea moving back to the forward line having been sweeping in the first half; Rathmore made more of a game of it in the second half as SK seemed to tire and they (SK) conceded a no of needless frees; Fionan Clifford was black carded on 12 mins being replaced by his brother Oran, who was dismissed later on after picking up two yellow cards; there were yellow cards also for Denis Daly and Rob Wharton. Rathmore however were too dependent on Shane Ryan for scores and SK ran out winners on a final score line of 1-15 to 0-11.
SK will be pleased with their performance, with keeper Padraig O'Sullivan making some good saves and being very accurate with his restarts; in defence, Mark Griffin and Paul O'Sullivan did well as did Graham O'Sullivan who kicked four points, two in each half - Graham found himself pushed up to the half forward line at times on the Rathmore kick out and SK profited from his strong play. Bryan Sheehan kicked 1-03 from play and missed quite a few frees and was ably assisted at midfield by Denis Daly - Niall O'Shea was their stand out forward kicking 3 points from play.
Rathmore just did not have enough fire power to worry the SK rearguard and though Shane Ryan kicked some good points from frees it was not enough - Mark Ryan, Chrissy Spiers and Paul Murphy were best for them.
South Kerry will be happy enough with their display and with Killian Young due back for a quarter final, will be a handful for any side in the next round.
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Post by himself on Sept 16, 2018 10:25:38 GMT
I think Brendan O'Sullivan is expected back as well
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Post by greengold35 on Sept 16, 2018 16:35:44 GMT
1/4 final draw: East Kerry vs South Kerry Austin Stacks vs Dingle Kerins O’Rahillys vs St Brendan’s Legion vs Dr Crokes Games to be played on weekend of 29/30th Sept.
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Post by buck02 on Sept 16, 2018 17:44:49 GMT
1/4 final draw: East Kerry vs South Kerry Austin Stacks vs Dingle Kerins O’Rahillys vs St Brendan’s Legion vs Dr Crokes Games to be played on weekend of 29/30th Sept. Hopefully two double headers. Legion v Crokes and Stacks v Dingle in Killarney and East Kerry v South Kerry and Rahillys v Brendan's in Tralee maybe.
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Post by mossie on Sept 16, 2018 18:17:29 GMT
2 very attractive double headers in the making there
Legion v crokes will have Killarney town buzzing
I fancied Brendans as a team with potential, they could go a step further in this
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Sept 16, 2018 18:21:44 GMT
There’s been a good team brewing in St. Brendans for years/ so its great to see them pull it together a bit. Between Mitchell’s, Pats, na Gaeil, Churchill and Ardfert- they should easily have 15 really good footballers but they have struggled to do it/ genuinely with the right coaching/commitment they could win it
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Post by kerrygold on Sept 16, 2018 18:28:47 GMT
There’s been a good team brewing in St. Brendans for years/ so its great to see them pull it together a bit. Between Mitchell’s, Pats, na Gaeil, Churchill and Ardfert- they should easily have 15 really good footballers but they have struggled to do it/ genuinely with the right coaching/commitment they could win it Rahilys wouldn't like to lose this one I'd say......
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Post by Mickmack on Sept 16, 2018 18:51:18 GMT
There’s been a good team brewing in St. Brendans for years/ so its great to see them pull it together a bit. Between Mitchell’s, Pats, na Gaeil, Churchill and Ardfert- they should easily have 15 really good footballers but they have struggled to do it/ genuinely with the right coaching/commitment they could win it All the townies going toe to toe. It could come down to the Ardfert and Churchill lads to keep the peace.
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Post by 1979 on Sept 16, 2018 19:05:36 GMT
There’s been a good team brewing in St. Brendans for years/ so its great to see them pull it together a bit. Between Mitchell’s, Pats, na Gaeil, Churchill and Ardfert- they should easily have 15 really good footballers but they have struggled to do it/ genuinely with the right coaching/commitment they could win it All the townies going toe to toe. It could come down to the Ardfert and Churchill lads to keep the peace. Good luck if you’re expecting Ardfert to keep the peace 😜 Good draw, every team will give themselves a decent chance of getting to the SFs.
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Post by mossie on Sept 16, 2018 20:06:33 GMT
There’s been a good team brewing in St. Brendans for years/ so its great to see them pull it together a bit. Between Mitchell’s, Pats, na Gaeil, Churchill and Ardfert- they should easily have 15 really good footballers but they have struggled to do it/ genuinely with the right coaching/commitment they could win it Rahilys wouldn't like to lose this one I'd say...... they have a lot of work to do bt the Brendans, a real tasty tie
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Post by baurtregaum on Sept 16, 2018 20:48:58 GMT
Rahilys wouldn't like to lose this one I'd say...... they have a lot of work to do bt the Brendans, a real tasty tie When was the last time Brendans got this far? They have been also-rans for a long time. No love lost between the likes of Pats/Churchill and Strand Road so it will be an interesting game.
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