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Post by kerrygold on May 15, 2018 9:31:35 GMT
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Post by Mickmack on May 15, 2018 9:55:13 GMT
Very interesting piece
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Post by givehimaball on May 15, 2018 12:45:53 GMT
It's clear he's spent serious amounts of time thinking about tactics and strategy and actually coaching players on a pitch, especially compared to some of the other pundits out there. One thing I think Mayo did well was that they only conceded 3 scorable frees (Galway did score all 3, but that's not surprising given McHugh kicked 19 out of the 21 deadball shots he took in the league and they have Walsh for the left sided ones) Galway be comparison conceded 6 scorable frees (some of them in the recklessly stupid category), but Mayo could only convert 4 of them. I think the Galway full-back line got away with it in terms of the 3 yellow cards they picked up in the first half, as the amount of pressure Mayo put the full-backs under in the 2nd half was minimal enough, between the sending-off, losing Parsons and not being 100% there in terms of fitness/energy. The thing is though if you have backs with the bad habit of tending to foul a lot, it's eventually going to cost you. McGuinness nails the danger of the strike runner and how difficult it is to defend. Good defenders will constantly have their head on a swivel, expecting the worst possible outcome in every scenario. In terms of the Mayo goal, it was even worse as the ball had come down the field from a short kick-out and then a free just outside Galway's own 20 metre line. For a defence to get caught here is very bad, as they should have had plenty of time to get properly positioned and be aware of where the opposition is. This a million times.
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Post by kerrygold on May 15, 2018 14:18:03 GMT
It's clear he's spent serious amounts of time thinking about tactics and strategy and actually coaching players on a pitch, especially compared to some of the other pundits out there. There is nobody else out there writing about the game in this detail and at this level.
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Post by keane on May 15, 2018 14:32:58 GMT
There was a guy doing game dissections for SportsJoe last year who was phenomenal.
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Post by Jigz84 on May 15, 2018 14:42:15 GMT
It's clear he's spent serious amounts of time thinking about tactics and strategy and actually coaching players on a pitch, especially compared to some of the other pundits out there. There is nobody else out there writing about the game in this detail and at this level. He's great on Sky Sports too
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Post by kerrygold on May 16, 2018 21:31:04 GMT
There is nobody else out there writing about the game in this detail and at this level. He's great on Sky Sports too Ok, I'll let you have that one jigz84
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Post by kerrygold on May 22, 2018 8:13:37 GMT
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Post by peanuts on May 22, 2018 20:47:20 GMT
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Post by kerrygold on May 23, 2018 8:04:41 GMT
You would wonder how amateur managers find time to prepare to this level.
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Post by Mickmack on May 23, 2018 9:06:57 GMT
Nice to see him giving credit to MH for two ulster titles with a mainly young team....and they gave a great account of themselves in the semi finals of 15 and 16
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Post by Mickmack on May 23, 2018 9:11:54 GMT
"]He says both sides avoided taking ball into contact. Kerry constantly took the ball into the tackle last year v mayo....moran is particular and lost the ball.
And he says both copied dublin in going man to man at the back plus dropping an extra man back. Is this not playing a sweeper....which we are told dublin do not do?
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Post by Ballyfireside on May 23, 2018 11:02:53 GMT
Does anyone know why Jim returned prematurely from China? Wouldn't have been easy with 5 children and Donegal people are genetically disposed homebirds, and for good reason. If he fell back in with Celtic it is interesting, some were thinking that he might have another crack at real football!
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Post by givehimaball on May 23, 2018 16:02:23 GMT
Does anyone know why Jim returned prematurely from China? Wouldn't have been easy with 5 children and Donegal people are genetically disposed homebirds, and for good reason. If he fell back in with Celtic it is interesting, some were thinking that he might have another crack at real football! I'd imagine he didn't fancy the lifestyle, given he was there just around 6 months. I didn't see anything about Celtic taking him back. I think the only gig he has now beside the Irish Times column is the Sky Sports gig. He might be interviewing with soccer club but his soccer CV is thin enough between his part-time spell at Celtic and 6 months in China. I can't see many soccer clubs giving much weight to his time with Donegal. If things remain quiet on the soccer front for another year or two, it definitely wouldn't be that surprising to see him back involved with a club anyway.
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Post by kerrygold on May 29, 2018 7:58:20 GMT
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Post by dc84 on May 29, 2018 12:25:53 GMT
Excellent article and i tend to agree even though i hate losing to them (cork missus and too many inlaws) we need a strong cork to keep us sharp
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Post by Mickmack on May 29, 2018 22:07:41 GMT
The bit Jim is missing is that Cork is a hurling county first and foremost.
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Post by keane on May 30, 2018 11:27:19 GMT
The bit Jim is missing is that Cork is a hurling county first and foremost. 'And it got me thinking about Cork and how vital a role they play in football’s eco-system. They may live in the shadow of the hurlers but, nonetheless, they are a big football county.'
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Post by kerrygold on May 30, 2018 11:59:09 GMT
Hopefully Cork give Kerry a belly full of it in a potential Munster final between the two.
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Post by Mickmack on May 30, 2018 12:24:30 GMT
The bit Jim is missing is that Cork is a hurling county first and foremost. 'And it got me thinking about Cork and how vital a role they play in football’s eco-system. They may live in the shadow of the hurlers but, nonetheless, they are a big football county.' If Cork had a football only county board and a hurling only county board they might fare better. There is no hurling in vast tracts of Cork yet they do not appear to an outsider to get party of esteem with hurling. Cork has more football only clubs than Kerry to my knowledge. When the back door came in in 2001 I was sure that Cork would be the ones to benefit most but it didn't really happen. Now that Cork are exciting to watch again in hurling the focus will be on them more and more. Living in the shadow of the hurlers is putting it mildly. Cork should be beating nearly everyone in football consistently.
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on May 31, 2018 0:03:40 GMT
Cork are a bit of a conundrum. The largest player pool in the country, plenty of football clubs, plenty of talent, plenty of money in the county, yet they don't perform at the levels they should and could. I think it's a lack of ambition as well as each time I talk to Cork people the onus is on beating Kerry and winning a Munster title, rarely on winning Sam. The reason why Kerry beat them consistently is in my opinion the desire to win Sam and the realisation that to Kerry people winning Munster titles will never be enough.
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Post by delorean on May 31, 2018 10:11:51 GMT
So the reason Kerry beat Cork consistently is because Cork only focus on beating Kerry. That is a bit of a conundrum alright, not sure how we'll solve that one.
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Post by Mickmack on May 31, 2018 10:35:43 GMT
delorean....I get the impression that given a choice between Cork winning Munster and the All Ireland football in one year or beating Kerry three years in a row in Munster and not going all the way to win the all Ireland in those three years ..... most would jump at the latter option. Tis just an impression though....
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Post by delorean on May 31, 2018 11:45:32 GMT
delorean....I get the impression that given a choice between Cork winning Munster and the All Ireland football in one year or beating Kerry three years in a row in Munster and not going all the way to win the all Ireland in those three years ..... most would jump at the latter option. Tis just an impression though.... I hope this comes across as emphatic rather than crude Mickmack, but they would in their holes. You really get the impression we'd swap our AI in 2010 (when we didn't even beat Kerry) for a couple more Munster titles?
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Post by buck02 on May 31, 2018 11:54:45 GMT
What is it that was said about the HSE a few weeks back.
Too big to fail. Too big to succeed.
Reminds me a bit of Cork.
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Post by Mickmack on May 31, 2018 12:10:09 GMT
delorean....I get the impression that given a choice between Cork winning Munster and the All Ireland football in one year or beating Kerry three years in a row in Munster and not going all the way to win the all Ireland in those three years ..... most would jump at the latter option. Tis just an impression though.... I hope this comes across as emphatic rather than crude Mickmack, but they would in their holes. You really get the impression we'd swap our AI in 2010 (when we didn't even beat Kerry) for a couple more Munster titles? Came across as emphatic ...impressions are likely to be wrong as right.
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Post by baurtregaum on May 31, 2018 14:17:44 GMT
I hope this comes across as emphatic rather than crude Mickmack, but they would in their holes. You really get the impression we'd swap our AI in 2010 (when we didn't even beat Kerry) for a couple more Munster titles? Came across as emphatic ...impressions are likely to be wrong as right. I know a few lads from Cork who had the attitude that "pity we didn't beat Kerry in winning" that year as it would have been sweeter for them so I know where that impression comes from. Some Kerry fans felt the same years we won but didn't meet Tyrone. An AL medal is hard earned regardless who you beat. Cork seem to be rising again and it would be great for the Munster championship if Clare and Tip became consistently consistent, as the man said. Separate county boards might be the answer alright.
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Post by delorean on May 31, 2018 15:06:56 GMT
I know a few lads from Cork who had the attitude that "pity we didn't beat Kerry in winning" that year as it would have been sweeter for them so I know where that impression comes from. Some Kerry fans felt the same years we won but didn't meet Tyrone. An AL medal is hard earned regardless who you beat. Cork seem to be rising again and it would be great for the Munster championship if Clare and Tip became consistently consistent, as the man said. Separate county boards might be the answer alright. Well naturally beating Kerry along the way would have been sweeter for all concerned, but that's a completely different conversation to saying we'd prefer to beat Kerry a few times (in Munster) over winning an All Ireland. Would Kerry supporters have traded an All Ireland for beating Tyrone a couple times while not going on to win it out? Doubtful. And ye've far more of them to play around with than we do.
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Post by An Bradán on Jun 3, 2018 23:14:54 GMT
Cork county really has hurling as it's heart and soul. I've always felt that except for 2000 / 3000 lost souls in West Cork (and a few other outposts) nobody really values their football team. Getting beaten consistently doesn't fit the Cork psyche and their supporters flock to the hurlers at every chance whereas the football supporting base is loyal but much smaller. The county board has also been a bit of a basket case with politics more important than getting their act together. Don't take my word for it. Talk to Cork football folk and they'll tell you tales or check out Kevin O'Donovans statement from a few years back.
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Post by kerrygold on Jun 5, 2018 12:34:18 GMT
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