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Post by clarinman on Jul 2, 2018 14:54:11 GMT
Roscommon v Armagh Saturday, 3pm, Portlaoise Cork v Tyrone Saturday, 5pm, Portlaoise Fermanagh v Kildare Navan, 7pm Laois v Monaghan Sunday, 2pm, Navan Does Laois Monaghan on the Sunday suggest that our group games in Croke park will be on the following Sunday? Does not seem fair to ask the winner of Laois/Monaghan to play the following Saturday.
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Post by sullyschoice on Jul 2, 2018 15:08:29 GMT
I heard somewhere that the Dubs game was going to be on the Saturday....... they must have a christening to go to on Sunday or something
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Post by greengold35 on Jul 2, 2018 15:19:51 GMT
I heard today also that we will play Galway on the Sunday with the possibility of the U-20 game going ahead also in Croke Park as a triple header. Must be something to do with the WC final taking place on the Sunday!
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Post by Jigz84 on Jul 2, 2018 15:28:17 GMT
I heard somewhere that the Dubs game was going to be on the Saturday....... they must have a christening to go to on Sunday or something World Cup Final is on the Sunday, might have something to do with it.
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Post by kerryboy83 on Jul 2, 2018 15:40:39 GMT
Who are the u-20s playing? Is that a semi final
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Post by greengold35 on Jul 2, 2018 15:47:46 GMT
Who are the u-20s playing? Is that a semi final Semi final vs Leinster winners - Kildare play Dublin next weekend.
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Post by kot on Jul 2, 2018 17:15:22 GMT
We can't but be happy with that draw. Galway will be a stern test but if have hopes of going anywhere we ought to be winning the other 2 games.
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Post by buck02 on Jul 2, 2018 20:11:07 GMT
I heard somewhere that the Dubs game was going to be on the Saturday....... they must have a christening to go to on Sunday or something World Cup Final is on the Sunday, might have something to do with it. With England looking like having a good chance of making the World Cup final, surely the CCCC won't make the West Brits play on 15th so I reckon you can take it as a given that we will be playing on the 15th.
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Post by Mickmack on Jul 2, 2018 20:13:21 GMT
World Cup Final is on the Sunday, might have something to do with it. With England looking like having a good chance of making the World Cup final, surely the CCCC won't make the West Brits play on 15th so I reckon you can take it as a given that we will be playing on the 15th. Sky sports will dictate the fixtures arrangements. The real Brits
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jul 2, 2018 20:21:21 GMT
With England looking like having a good chance of making the World Cup final, surely the CCCC won't make the West Brits play on 15th so I reckon you can take it as a given that we will be playing on the 15th. Sky sports will dictate the fixtures arrangements. The real Brits Do you really believe this? Have you a shred of evidence?
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Post by Mickmack on Jul 2, 2018 20:27:29 GMT
Sky sports will dictate the fixtures arrangements. The real Brits Do you really believe this? Have you a shred of evidence? I dont believe it really. Just having the craic. However, since SKY have exclusive coverage I would expect some dialogue behind the scenes . I imagine RTE would have the same dialogue if they were showing it. He who pays the piper calls the tune etc
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Post by Deise Exile on Jul 2, 2018 21:35:47 GMT
Oliver Cromwell did things like that to their forefathers. Bit harsh really, they did their best LOL. Best post in years
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Post by Deise Exile on Jul 2, 2018 21:39:44 GMT
I heard today also that we will play Galway on the Sunday with the possibility of the U-20 game going ahead also in Croke Park as a triple header. Must be something to do with the WC final taking place on the Sunday! Any truth in this? What time would Kerry game be if WC final is at 4pm? Scant regard for Kerry fans wanting to watch the final and then travel back. I've a feeling Dublin game will be standalone fixture on Sunday at 2pm. All other games a triple header at 3, 5 and 7pm? On the Saturday
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Post by sullyschoice on Jul 2, 2018 21:42:02 GMT
They won't get too far on €55
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Post by sullyschoice on Jul 2, 2018 21:45:49 GMT
I heard today also that we will play Galway on the Sunday with the possibility of the U-20 game going ahead also in Croke Park as a triple header. Must be something to do with the WC final taking place on the Sunday! Any truth in this? What time would Kerry game be if WC final is at 4pm? Scant regard for Kerry fans wanting to watch the final and then travel back. I've a feeling Dublin game will be standalone fixture on Sunday at 2pm. All other games a triple header at 3, 5 and 7pm? On the Saturday It turns out the world cup final will be switched to Portlaoise because Michael Buble is playong in Moscow on the sunday
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Post by Deise Exile on Jul 2, 2018 21:48:45 GMT
Any truth in this? What time would Kerry game be if WC final is at 4pm? Scant regard for Kerry fans wanting to watch the final and then travel back. I've a feeling Dublin game will be standalone fixture on Sunday at 2pm. All other games a triple header at 3, 5 and 7pm? On the Saturday It turns out the world cup final will be switched to Portlaoise because Michael Buble is playong in Moscow on the sunday Yes I heard that too!
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Post by jackiel on Jul 2, 2018 22:16:20 GMT
I heard today also that we will play Galway on the Sunday with the possibility of the U-20 game going ahead also in Croke Park as a triple header. Must be something to do with the WC final taking place on the Sunday! Any truth in this? What time would Kerry game be if WC final is at 4pm? Scant regard for Kerry fans wanting to watch the final and then travel back. I've a feeling Dublin game will be standalone fixture on Sunday at 2pm. All other games a triple header at 3, 5 and 7pm? On the Saturday Standalone fixtures are rare in Croke Park. I seriously hope that's pure speculation, stewards have a schedule which gives double headers on both days of every second weekend in July and August.triple headers are a killer to work.
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Post by Mickmack on Jul 2, 2018 22:32:15 GMT
Mícheál Ó Scannáil
June 29 2018 12:55 PM
As it stands, Dublin will enjoy two games in Croke Park in the upcoming Super 8 series of the All-Ireland Football Championship.
The new structure was passed by the 2017 iteration of the GAA Congress, who ruled that every qualifying team should play one home game, one away game and get one opportunity from their three games to play in Croke Park.
While six teams in the series will play in three separate venues over the course of the quarter-final round robin structure, Dublin will travel to the winner of Cork and a yet-to-be-determined round 4 qualifier and enjoy two Croke Park ties, with Donegal and the winner of Roscommon and another round 4 qualifier making the trip to the capital.
Studies in rugby reveal that home advantage is worth seven to twelve points - or close to a certain win when Munster play in Thomond Park - and in football, mathematical equations have been designed that find it worth somewhere between a goal and two, depending on a range of factors including attendance and a team’s style of play.
But in GAA, for some reason, it doesn't seem to be recognised much at all.
If Kildare showed us anything this week, it’s the importance home advantage holds for a team. To fight tooth and nail just to keep a fixture in Newbridge exhibits just how valued that advantage is among inter-county sides.
Since the beginning of last season, Dublin have played in Croke Park on 16 occasions. Of those 16, seven were in the All-Ireland series or in league and provincial finals, games that would that have been played in Croke Park regardless of the teams involved.
Outside of those marquee occasions, the only other football teams to enjoy the advantage of a run-out in Croke Park besides Dublin are the teams that opposed them on those nine other days. Is it fair that Dublin should be allowed to make themselves utterly comfortable in a venue, famous for putting nerves in inexperienced teams?
Dublin have a stadium, Parnell Park. If Liverpool tried to play their home FA Cup fixtures in Wembley Stadium, citing the extra 35,000 attendance as their motivation, their efforts would be immediately quashed. They wouldn’t be allowed to gain such a familiarity with the final-hosting ground. Tottenham, situated there for the rebuilding of White Hart lane, reached the latter stages of the competition this year and the English FA came under criticism for that very reason.
Granted Croke Park is situated in Dublin, but it was not built for them. If a request like this, in the highly affluent and not to forget professional, sport of soccer would seem ridiculous, how in amateur GAA, where a pride in your parish and sense of home are key values, can Dublin use Croke Park for nearly all of their home games and ignore Parnell Park so completely?
To their credit, the Boys in Blue do rent Croke Park for their home fixtures, in the knowledge that their incredibly faithful supporters will substantially fill it and their investment will be returned. Other counties wouldn’t have the means, or the number of supporters necessary to rent Ireland’s premier stadium, reopening the argument of whether Dublin should be permitted to enjoy such a financial superiority over the rest of the participating teams.
Some middle ground must be struck in the GAA. Nobody should be inhibited from enjoying the spectacle of their county playing, and Dublin supporters must not be punished for being some of the best in the country, following one of the best teams ever to grace Croke Park. Frankly, Parnell Park can’t hold the number of unwavering supporters that follow Dublin, but they should not be allowed to feel so comfortable in a stadium supposed to be reserved for the biggest days in GAA.
There are no stadia within a reasonable drive for Dublin to host the crowds that they draw for their home fixtures, other than Croke Park. Maybe it’s time for the GAA to put a ban on the rental of Croke Park, and force Dublin’s hand to, like Cork did with Páirc Uí Chaoimh, invest some of their copious budget in a new venue capable of housing their astonishing football team and the enormous crowds that they attract.
Until that day comes when a new stadium is built in Dublin, a compromise should be reached, starting with the Super 8s. Jim Gavin's men ought to play one of their two game scheduled for Croke Park in a proper neutral venue.
The incredible scenes of Hill 16 for a Dublin game shouldn't be done away with, but should be reserved for the bigger days and recreated elsewhere when the Dubs play-out their 'home' fixtures.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jul 2, 2018 22:41:49 GMT
I think taking Dublin's home games out of Croke Park could be a big mistake.
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Post by An Bradán on Jul 2, 2018 23:15:35 GMT
I love this ha ha......two financial contributors to the cause so far. Sinead donates €50 and then yer man the originator himself pledges a fiver ha ha ha ha ...a whole €5. Up Mayo 😀😀😀😀
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Post by An Bradán on Jul 2, 2018 23:19:34 GMT
I think taking Dublin's home games out of Croke Park could be a big mistake. Fy so bcos
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Post by kerrygold on Jul 3, 2018 4:58:47 GMT
Of course Dublin's second super 8 game should be taken out of Croker in the interest of fairness as should the Spring Series now be reconsidered. Thurles or Limerick should host it. This just feeds the greatest anomaly in Irish sport currently.
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Post by glengael on Jul 3, 2018 6:44:27 GMT
Could be a problem with Thurles- Aren't they supposed to be reviving the Trip to Tipp sometime this year or did I imagine that? Or is it being held elsewhere in the county?
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Post by buck02 on Jul 3, 2018 8:14:54 GMT
Could be a problem with Thurles- Aren't they supposed to be reviving the Trip to Tipp sometime this year or did I imagine that? Or is it being held elsewhere in the county? Not on until the end of September
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Post by glengael on Jul 3, 2018 8:54:03 GMT
Could be a problem with Thurles- Aren't they supposed to be reviving the Trip to Tipp sometime this year or did I imagine that? Or is it being held elsewhere in the county? Not on until the end of September When the championship is over? Bad planning there surely
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Post by dc84 on Jul 3, 2018 9:07:13 GMT
Id say the guards will have a lot to do with who plays when. Dublin donegal could be 60+ and if its tyrone roscommon it would be a full house, if there is anything going on the Saturday the guards might force the game to the sunday.on the flip side kerry and galway dont traditionally bring big crowds hard thats assuming the groups are kept together which makes sense same rest periods for all teams
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Post by Ballyfireside on Jul 3, 2018 10:22:17 GMT
Roscommon v Armagh Saturday, 3pm, Portlaoise Cork v Tyrone Saturday, 5pm, Portlaoise Fermanagh v Kildare Navan, 7pm Laois v Monaghan Sunday, 2pm, Navan Couldn't get better pairings and there will be some deadly stuff played here, like MHC roundy robin. If we turn out to be as good as some believed after the Cork game and assuming we get to the final on the back of that, you'd wonder how well tested we would be -Galway may be the pick of our opposition in the group but I think we will dispose of them in a similar manner that we did with the rebels. I fear Jim Gavin may regret saying slan awaile to Connolly, e.g. Dubs since missed a penalty Dearmuddy wud have nailed and he also papered over a few cracks in Gavin's selection, last year for example. Dearmuddy is a boyo but if he is with you he is a good boyo and no county could refuse him. A good team often insulates a manager from errors and it could be that Jim doesn't cope with a left-field ambush, well hopefully he doesn't anyway and hopefully it is us that abmush.
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Post by buck02 on Jul 3, 2018 15:30:13 GMT
Kerry v Galway match is confirmed for 4pm on Sunday July 15th.
Dublin v Donegal on 7pm on Saturday 14th.
Surprise, surprise.
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Post by kerrygold on Jul 3, 2018 15:45:30 GMT
Kerry v Galway match is confirmed for 4pm on Sunday July 15th. Dublin v Donegal on 7pm on Saturday 14th. Surprise, surprise. Suits me perfectly. Saturday games are a pain in the chops!
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Post by Mickmack on Jul 3, 2018 15:49:17 GMT
Kerry v Galway match is confirmed for 4pm on Sunday July 15th. Will there be a game at 2pm in Croker that day ....under 20 semi final v Dublin or Kildare would be nice
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