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Post by pintpleasejohn on Aug 5, 2018 11:21:12 GMT
Somebody please tell me that the ladies hockey team will be shown this evening rather than the Dublin game.. Yes it is as I understand it. Thank god for that, would’ve been a disgrace
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Post by glengael on Aug 5, 2018 16:04:09 GMT
Tyrone striking late in Ballybofey. Interesting last 5 mins + whatever Joe adds...
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Post by kerrygold on Aug 5, 2018 16:10:06 GMT
Monaghan v Tyrone will be some bruiser in Croker.
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Post by glengael on Aug 5, 2018 16:17:53 GMT
Monaghan v Tyrone will be some bruiser in Croker. Tyrone subs made the difference.
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Post by kerrygold on Aug 5, 2018 16:59:34 GMT
So what do people think of the Super 8s, success or not?
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Aug 5, 2018 17:05:45 GMT
So what do people think of the Super 8s, success or not? Too early to say? In fairness the old quarter finals were normally very drab.
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Post by kerrygold on Aug 5, 2018 17:09:35 GMT
The intense travelling over successive weekends was taxing for starters.
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Post by clarinman on Aug 5, 2018 17:24:55 GMT
The day in Clones made it for me. Great occasion, good atmosphere. First day in Croke park was not a good experience. I think they just need to rejig the fixtures. Give the provincial winners a home game first against a qualifier. The current system means one of the provincial winners in each group is on the backfoot after one game. Provincial winners should be rewarded. I think it can work long term if tweaked.
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Post by kerrygold on Aug 5, 2018 17:29:17 GMT
I think this summer has shown that championship football really works in the small provincial venues and should be promoted fully. Newbridgeornowhere might become the watershed catalyst for this. Croke Park doesn't need the super eights, make the football more tribal.
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 5, 2018 17:33:00 GMT
I didnt see any of Donegal v Tyrone. Was it a good game. Bernard Flynn said Donegal didnt press home their advantage when on top.
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Post by clarinman on Aug 5, 2018 17:42:58 GMT
I didnt see any of Donegal v Tyrone. Was it a good game. Bernard Flynn said Donegal didnt press home their advantage when on top. Very poor first half with Tyrone dropping everyone behind the ball. They scored 6 points in the first half. Changed tack in the second half and scored 2-11. Hard to know what to make if this Tyrone team.
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Post by southward on Aug 5, 2018 18:27:35 GMT
The day in Clones made it for me. Great occasion, good atmosphere. First day in Croke park was not a good experience. I think they just need to rejig the fixtures. Give the provincial winners a home game first against a qualifier. The current system means one of the provincial winners in each group is on the backfoot after one game. Provincial winners should be rewarded. I think it can work long term if tweaked. The fixtures certainly didn't work out for Kerry this time. If we had Kildare at home first, we wouldn't have been shafted by a no-show from Galway v Monaghan. Not that it isn't our own fault at the end of the day but the game sequence can make a real difference.
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Post by clarinman on Aug 5, 2018 19:54:56 GMT
All irrelevant ifs buts maybe. Fact is mistakes were made by everyone. Management cannot be held out to dry. For a supposedly football mad county by god have we some football illiterate people following our team and worse given airtime by means of social media and terrace talk. God help us terrace talk. 'Text from Tommy from glencar says kerry should kick the ball '. Realistically either those who have played or managed at a decent level know what's going on or what should be going on. The rest are turning up to kerry games looking for selfies or gossip. They wouldn't know a sweeper from a mop. Eamonn has been extremely successful. We probably have about a 1000 knowledgeable fans and the rest fit for a zoo or circus. This post is very disrespectful to the 2 to 3 thousand Kerry fans who traveled to Croke park and clones this year along with a lot of genuine Kerry football people who can't go to matches due to work/family commitments. Is it the management or the supporters that don't know a sweeper from a mop? I suppose the fans don't know what a kickout strategy is either.
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Post by southward on Aug 5, 2018 20:25:24 GMT
All irrelevant ifs buts maybe. Fact is mistakes were made by everyone. Management cannot be held out to dry. For a supposedly football mad county by god have we some football illiterate people following our team and worse given airtime by means of social media and terrace talk. God help us terrace talk. 'Text from Tommy from glencar says kerry should kick the ball '. Realistically either those who have played or managed at a decent level know what's going on or what should be going on. The rest are turning up to kerry games looking for selfies or gossip. They wouldn't know a sweeper from a mop. Eamonn has been extremely successful. We probably have about a 1000 knowledgeable fans and the rest fit for a zoo or circus. Tis your own posts that are mostly gossip. Not seeing much insight there either.
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Post by wayupnorth on Aug 5, 2018 20:39:06 GMT
Some interesting Championship firsts thrown up by Super 8s Kerry first county to fail to qualify for a semi after a win. Tyrone first county to qualify for a semi after two championship defeats. And Monaghan v Kerry was the first drawn Championship match that did not require extra time or a replay.
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Post by goonised on Aug 6, 2018 2:09:35 GMT
All irrelevant ifs buts maybe. Fact is mistakes were made by everyone. Management cannot be held out to dry. For a supposedly football mad county by god have we some football illiterate people following our team and worse given airtime by means of social media and terrace talk. God help us terrace talk. 'Text from Tommy from glencar says kerry should kick the ball '. Realistically either those who have played or managed at a decent level know what's going on or what should be going on. The rest are turning up to kerry games looking for selfies or gossip. They wouldn't know a sweeper from a mop. Eamonn has been extremely successful. We probably have about a 1000 knowledgeable fans and the rest fit for a zoo or circus. Tis your own posts that are mostly gossip. Not seeing much insight there either.
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Post by goonised on Aug 6, 2018 2:13:58 GMT
All irrelevant ifs buts maybe. Fact is mistakes were made by everyone. Management cannot be held out to dry. For a supposedly football mad county by god have we some football illiterate people following our team and worse given airtime by means of social media and terrace talk. God help us terrace talk. 'Text from Tommy from glencar says kerry should kick the ball '. Realistically either those who have played or managed at a decent level know what's going on or what should be going on. The rest are turning up to kerry games looking for selfies or gossip. They wouldn't know a sweeper from a mop. Eamonn has been extremely successful. We probably have about a 1000 knowledgeable fans and the rest fit for a zoo or circus. Tis your own posts that are mostly gossip. Not seeing much insight there either.
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Post by goonised on Aug 6, 2018 2:22:30 GMT
As in insight to what exactly. What posts don't make sense. Eamonn was exceptional. As I said arsè and elbow most of our''supporters''.
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Post by wayupnorth on Aug 6, 2018 7:39:25 GMT
Interesting to note that the four semi-finalists are the same four teams that won the first day out. Does this mean that the first match is crucial in giving the winners a sound platform to build on an injecting a sense of panic in the losers. With this in mind the sequence should be reversed next year, living the clash of Provincial winners to phase 3.
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Post by NotOurYear on Aug 6, 2018 7:59:34 GMT
I think Fitzmaurice ‘did the state some service’ to borrow a quote from a different retirement statement. 1. He took over when none of us saw a real future, with an aging team and an underage structure that didn’t produce a minor All-Ireland in nearly 20 years. 2. He answered the call on the back of very little managerial experience; that was incredibly brave of him, the easy thing to do would have been to say no. Where would we have been then. A valid question for the KCB is how we were in that position in the first place; like now there appears no development path for coaches within the County). 3. Away from match days he completely changed the way we operate for the better. If you want to know how harmful or stupid open training sessions are then think about ‘treegate’ before the 2014 final. I firmly believe we lacked for nothing off the field. Our back room support was exceptional. 4. Sadly in game management was always an issue right from the start (Jack Sherwood debut vs Kevin McManamon in 2013). 5. That trend has appeared to get worse over the years but especially in 2017 / 2018. The changes between games were baffling and looked to he highly reactionary. Imagine being Kieran Murphy, Ronan Shanahan, Mark Griffin, Michael Burns, Kevin McCarthy, James O & Donaghy. You have no idea what will happen next week, outside of Munster there appeared to be no consistency in selection. For us of an older vintage we remember how shakey Tomas & Marc were in their first years. Would they even play under the above circumstances? Players need to feel trusted, game time & consistency to develop. 6. I for one wouldn’t like to be a member of the full-back line in that team. 1 on 1 inside with 60 yards of green grass in front of me. We were not physical enough in the tackle either. Kildare kicked 1-12 the last night with no-one laying a hand on them. 7. Kick-outs were a particular frustration for me. The sight of seeing two midfielders running to balls kicked along the ground to the 21 yard line was frustrating. If that is what we are going to do then pick a more athletic type player there (not Jack Barry). More alarming is that when we did go long it was usually one Kerry vs 3/4 opponents which should never happen with our kick-outs. 8. As stated elsewhere on the form if the years were reversed then the legacy would have been different, sadly 2017 & 2018 were not good (Munster excepted). Overall with the exception of 2016 & 2017 our league form was terrible, to be successful now you need to be consistent year round. Look at Dublin now and Kilkenny in their pomp. 9. Éamonn I fell, did the right thing in standing down, the match on Saturday did have that ‘end of era’ feeling to it. He took the courageous decision to walk away from something he loved doing. People should reflect on that. 10. Finally to those who took the time to write hate mail to Fitzmaurice, please have a hard long look at yourselves. What has a volunteer done to deserve that!! We may all disagree on selections / changes but to sit down and take the time to write poisonous letters is utterly wrong. I for one will be writing a letter to Éamonn to thank him for his efforts over the last 6 years as I said he answered the call and walked that very unforgiving line.
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 6, 2018 10:16:59 GMT
10. Finally to those who took the time to write hate mail to Fitzmaurice, please have a hard long look at yourselves. What has a volunteer done to deserve that!! We may all disagree on selections / changes but to sit down and take the time to write poisonous letters is utterly wrong. I am amazed that anyone would sit down and write such a letter.
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Post by wayupnorth on Aug 6, 2018 15:32:52 GMT
10. Finally to those who took the time to write hate mail to Fitzmaurice, please have a hard long look at yourselves. What has a volunteer done to deserve that!! We may all disagree on selections / changes but to sit down and take the time to write poisonous letters is utterly wrong. I am amazed that anyone would sit down and write such a letter. Utterly wrong indeed, but amazed that there are people out there capable of doing this? Unfortunately no. Strong views may have been expressed here and elsewhere but I have seen nothing here that could be classed as hateful. This is the benefit of a moderated forum. What personal inadequacies would bring someone to compose a poisonous letter cam only be guessed at. More a reflection of the sender than the recipient and depending on the content should go directly to the Gardaí or the bin.
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