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Post by Kingdomson on Aug 19, 2018 17:12:00 GMT
A magnificent victory for Limerick and a fitting end to an outstanding hurling championship!
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Post by buck02 on Aug 19, 2018 18:40:57 GMT
A magnificent victory for Limerick and a fitting end to an outstanding hurling championship! A fitting end? It was a terrible game until the Galway comeback in the last 15 minutes. The shooting was hopeless on both sides.
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Post by tpo on Aug 19, 2018 19:40:57 GMT
Nearly as many wide's as scores, but delighted for Limerick
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Post by Jigz84 on Aug 19, 2018 21:47:25 GMT
Happy to be proven wrong ... just about! Well done Limerick.
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 19, 2018 21:53:50 GMT
It is turning into a golden period in hurling to rival the mid 90s. Since 2013, Clare, KK, Tipp, Galway and Limerick have won the All Ireland.
Galway have been involved in a lot of great games over the past 5 years and the Leinster final replay as well as the semi final were games that they could have done without.
There is serious thought going into the game plan and tactics down Limerick way and the puckout is a key element. They did a job on Glynn too and Galway struggled as a result.
Five or six of Limericks starters today were on the u21 team that beat KK last year. They sky is the limit for them if they keep their feet on the ground.
Limerick ended with 3.19 and it could have been 3.30 or more. At times they should have fed the inside line rather than taking shots but this was an ALL Ireland final for a side playing its second game ever in Croke Park.
Its 22 years since a team won the final at the first time of asking when Wexford with 14 men for most of the game beat Limerick. That defeat came 2 years after the mother of all defeats when Limerick lost to Offaly having been 5 points up with only a few minutes to go. I was at that game and the sense of desolation was total on Limerick people.
Galway were gracious in defeat. They had their day last year. There is no outstanding team at the moment although Limerick could become one.
I hope Waterford win it next year.
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Post by ddtinexile on Aug 19, 2018 22:56:11 GMT
Joe o Connor came in for good bit of praise from the limerick players on the Sunday game tonight. The Morrissey brothers thanked him for his strength and conditioning program.. Was he with the Kerry set up at all?? Must be some man if he worked with both counties.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Aug 20, 2018 0:33:58 GMT
Hearty congrats to Limerick, and, AND Galway, there be no loser, what a day in the annals. I can't recall such a deadly beauty been born since Yates' famous wan liner and, well the day I waz born - ah me terrible, beauty and .. he laddos, I'm 5x and .. I was only born yesterday.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2018 7:11:05 GMT
I think he oversees the s&c whatever that means.
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Post by glengael on Aug 20, 2018 8:48:36 GMT
It happens that the Final does not live up to what came before. It’s a huge day for both teams and sometimes it’s the 2nd half before the game, if it is still a real contest by then, opens up. Both sides went for glorious long range shots that were never on. Limerick’s goals were crucial and the latter 2 very well taken. If the final Galway free had been a bit closer, we’d be talking about the replay but in the end it worked out for Limerick which was great. They have been bridesmaids for other teams when famines ended, Galway in 1980, Wexford 1996. Now they finally get there for themselves. Clare had the world at their feet with their young team in 2013. It hasn’t worked out. That can be a lesson to Limerick in an even more precarious championship set up next year.
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Post by maryo on Aug 20, 2018 9:09:13 GMT
I have been living in Limerick for 35 years and witnessed their 2 losses so delighted for them. What a county for supporters👍 The match didn’t live up to earlier standard but who cares!! To be there to witness the joy on those supporters was an honour!! Limerick Abu
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Post by Ballyfireside on Aug 20, 2018 10:33:22 GMT
A magnificent victory for Limerick and a fitting end to an outstanding hurling championship! A fitting end? It was a terrible game until the Galway comeback in the last 15 minutes. The shooting was hopeless on both sides. The pressure was awesome and we can all score long range points from the high stool. I watched it with a pair of Antrim hurlers and who were quiet complimentary of the year Kerry hurlers had and our overall progress in general. Well done to Limerick and what a competitive game it was, a milestone in hurling history.
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Post by veteran on Aug 20, 2018 11:23:40 GMT
Delighted for Limerick but like the Kerry minors the previous week they nearly let it slip. I felt they were much superior to Galway on the day but seemed to tighten up when the finishing line came into focus. There is a Limerick man living locally who has been following Limerick teams when it was not fashionable to do . He is well into his eighties now and up to the middle of last week he could not secure a ticket. It gave me endless pleasure to supply him with a ticket at the last minute. I met him this morning and needless to say he had grown a foot. He was however dismayed at the number of Limerick supporters saying after the match that, because of their youth, they were looking at a few years of dominance. Dangerous talk. They would do well to to talk to Clare and Tipp supporters about that.
We have known for a long time that tackling in football belongs to a twilight zone. Clearly the same applies now in hurling . Anything goes in that area and one never knows if a free is going to be awarded or in what direction. Of course steps and the throw pass is another exercise in blindman’s buff. I have no idea where all this going to end. I suppose the administrators will be indifferent in their response as long as we have closely contested games which attract the crowds,. I certainly would like to see more law and order restored to our games. In that respect the soccer and rugby boys , while not perfect, offer more certainty.
Prior to the final . I read a few articles where some commentators are suggesting that the sliotar is too light and as a consequence is traveling too far, leading to puck out , catch, score, thus eliminating a lot of play. They may be on to something there. Apparently, our golfing brethren are also giving consideration to the distances the modern golf ball travels. Interesting.
I would imagine the Limerick boys will not have to spend too much time collecting for their holiday. J.P. will not see them short!
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Post by kerrygold on Aug 20, 2018 11:31:50 GMT
Great day for Limerick. Congrats to them. It is amazing how a county like this can go 45 years without winning it. Galway showed signs of wear & tear yesterday in an ultra competitive championship.
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Post by kerrygold on Aug 20, 2018 11:34:40 GMT
Delighted for Limerick but like the Kerry minors the previous week they nearly let it slip. I felt they were much superior to Galway on the day but seemed to tighten up when the finishing line came into focus. There is a Limerick man living locally who has been following Limerick teams when it was not fashionable to do . He is well into his eighties now and up to the middle of last week he could not secure a ticket. It gave me endless pleasure to supply him with a ticket at the last minute. I met him this morning and needless to say he had grown a foot. He was however dismayed at the number of Limerick supporters saying after the match that, because of their youth, they were looking at a few years of dominance. Dangerous talk. They would do well to to talk to Clare and Tipp supporters about that. We have known for a long time that tackling in football belongs to a twilight zone. Clearly the same applies now in hurling . Anything goes in that area and one never knows if a free is going to be awarded or in what direction. Of course steps and the throw pass is another exercise in blindman’s buff. I have no idea where all this going to end. I suppose the administrators will be indifferent in their response as long as we have closely contested games which attract the crowds,. I certainly would like to see more law and order restored to our games. In that respect the soccer and rugby boys , while not perfect, offer more certainty. Prior to the final . I read a few articles where some commentators are suggesting that the sliotar is too light and as a consequence is traveling too far, leading to puck out , catch, score, thus eliminating a lot of play. They may be on to something there. Apparently, our golfing brethren are also giving consideration to the distances the modern golf ball travels. Interesting. I would imagine the Limerick boys will not have to spend too much time collecting for their holiday. J.P. will not see them short! JP might make them freemen of Adare Monor now which was voted number 1 hotel in the world last week.
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 20, 2018 11:46:58 GMT
I hear the Dubs were in Donald Trumps gaff in Doonbeg over the weekend. We will have to await the verdict from the blue panther.
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Post by kerrygold on Aug 20, 2018 14:01:57 GMT
Playing the trump card so it would seem!
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Post by kerryexile on Aug 20, 2018 14:33:10 GMT
Joe o Connor came in for good bit of praise from the limerick players on the Sunday game tonight. The Morrissey brothers thanked him for his strength and conditioning program.. Was he with the Kerry set up at all?? Must be some man if he worked with both counties. I fully agree with you, fellow exile. A phrase that was used was that "Joe O'Connor gave 110%" to Limerick. It is reasonable to assume that meant that he was at all the training sessions. It is also reasonable to assume that he could hardly be in 2 places at one time.
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Post by Attacking Wing Back on Aug 20, 2018 14:44:26 GMT
On Joe O Connor he tried to commit to a few projects this year some fail and some worked, Kerry seniors was one of the failed projects.At this level half committing is no good to the team. Limerick just got over the line and if Joe focuses on Limerick next year rather then having his fingers in too many pies I think Limerick could be close to winning again and if not next year probably the year after. Joe is a top class STRENGTH and CONDITIONING coach but works better in the Hurling code more so then football as he has tried a few football teams but to no joy. From what I have been hearing here in Limerick today is the management team are going to be contracted for two more years. Come on the boys in Green! I thought Joe O'Connor was a county board appointment rather than a senior manager appointment? He has an overarching role with all teams from development squads through to senior squad. He kind of like the director of S&C and there is people to work directly with the senior team etc. If he is the man that also is meant to work directly with the senior team it's not really a runner to be honest. He can't server two masters. Better off to go out and get someone that can commit 100%. Whats Pat Flanagan at these days? Is he still with stacks?
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Post by buck02 on Aug 20, 2018 15:32:10 GMT
On Joe O Connor he tried to commit to a few projects this year some fail and some worked, Kerry seniors was one of the failed projects.At this level half committing is no good to the team. Limerick just got over the line and if Joe focuses on Limerick next year rather then having his fingers in too many pies I think Limerick could be close to winning again and if not next year probably the year after. Joe is a top class STRENGTH and CONDITIONING coach but works better in the Hurling code more so then football as he has tried a few football teams but to no joy. From what I have been hearing here in Limerick today is the management team are going to be contracted for two more years. Come on the boys in Green! I thought Joe O'Connor was a county board appointment rather than a senior manager appointment? He has an overarching role with all teams from development squads through to senior squad. He kind of like the director of S&C and there is people to work directly with the senior team etc. If he is the man that also is meant to work directly with the senior team it's not really a runner to be honest. He can't server two masters. Better off to go out and get someone that can commit 100%. Whats Pat Flanagan at these days? Is he still with stacks? I think you are right. Niall O Mahony (Spa player) was the S&C Coach for the Senior team I believe.
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 20, 2018 15:49:27 GMT
Playing the trump card so it would seem! AIG have good reason to throw a bit of business Donalds way. www.thestreet.com/story/14325545/1/aig-ditches-too-big-to-fail-label-under-trump.htmlI am reliably informed that the Limerick players were instructed to shoot for scores from all angles and distances, the objective being to avoid physical exchanges with the more physically developed Galway players at all costs. They reckoned they had a good chance of regaining possession from the puckout. Galways first goal came directly from the corner forward for Limerick being turned over but there were few enough other instances of Limericks players taking the ball into contact.
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 20, 2018 16:15:44 GMT
On Joe O Connor he tried to commit to a few projects this year some fail and some worked, Kerry seniors was one of the failed projects.At this level half committing is no good to the team. Limerick just got over the line and if Joe focuses on Limerick next year rather then having his fingers in too many pies I think Limerick could be close to winning again and if not next year probably the year after. Joe is a top class STRENGTH and CONDITIONING coach but works better in the Hurling code more so then football as he has tried a few football teams but to no joy. From what I have been hearing here in Limerick today is the management team are going to be contracted for two more years. Come on the boys in Green! I thought Joe O'Connor was a county board appointment rather than a senior manager appointment? He has an overarching role with all teams from development squads through to senior squad. He kind of like the director of S&C and there is people to work directly with the senior team etc. If he is the man that also is meant to work directly with the senior team it's not really a runner to be honest. He can't server two masters. Better off to go out and get someone that can commit 100%. Whats Pat Flanagan at these days? Is he still with stacks? Anthony Daly speaks highly in the Indo today of Paul Kinnerk as coach and Joe OConnnor as trainer of Limerick this year and makes the point that both did the same for Clare when they won the 2013 All Ireland.
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Post by southward on Aug 20, 2018 19:20:14 GMT
I hear the Dubs were in Donald Trumps gaff in Doonbeg over the weekend. We will have to await the verdict from the blue panther. The Donald has probably been added to the backroom team as well.
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Post by glengael on Aug 21, 2018 8:24:07 GMT
Huge crowds in Limerick out in last night. Great to see and no doubt the schools and Clubs will be busy preparing for thier special visitors over the coming months.
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Post by Mickmack on Sept 7, 2018 7:38:14 GMT
Michael Verney
September 7 2018 2:30 AM
The race to replace Michael Ryan and become the next Tipperary senior hurling manager is turning into a two-man duel between Willie Maher and Liam Cahill with a decision to be made in the coming weeks.
Ryan stepped down five weeks ago in the wake of a disappointing 2018 which saw the Premier County suffer a league final defeat to Kilkenny before bowing out of the Munster senior championship at the round-robin stage with two draws and two defeats from four games.
There's little to separate the pair and no sign of white smoke as of yet with Maher, Tipp's All-Ireland minor-winning manager in 2012, and Waterford selector in Derek McGrath's first year at the helm in 2014, sounded out about the job in recent weeks.
Cahill, who guided the Tipp U-21s to a surprise All-Ireland success as they avenged a Munster final defeat to overturn a much-fancied Cork side last month, and also led them to All-Ireland minor glory in 2016, is understood to have met with the selection committee earlier this week.
The Premier board have not entertained outside candidates - Tipperary's hurlers have never had a manager from outside the county - and it is expected that one of the Ballingarry club-mates will be the man to steer Tipp into 2019.
It is believed that Colm Bonnar, twice an All-Ireland winner with Tipp, was also contacted about the vacancy but ruled himself out with confirmation coming yesterday that he will remain at the helm of Joe McDonagh Cup champions Carlow
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Post by Mickmack on Sept 7, 2018 7:44:06 GMT
I was talking to a Tipp man and he was telling me that Liam Cahill is who most of the the supporters want. His u21 team were beaten by Cork by 10 points in Munster but they beat Cork in the All Ireland final with a late goal and Cahills stock has risen. He said Cahill is a hard direct taskmaster and the fans want him. By comparison Willie Maher is more political and has Eamonn oShea former manager on his ticket. The older players want Maher!
But the really interesting angle is that both come from the same club, Ballingarry.
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Post by kerryexile on Sept 7, 2018 7:51:20 GMT
Niall O Mahony was the seniors S&C coach for Kerry (seemly) but it was under Joe O Connors Directions which is a mad sinario. If Niall was the S&C for seniors he should have been the program designer full stop.If Joe is telling all S&C coaces what to do then it is pointless for S&C coaches to get involved with the Kerry Set up. It looks like Joe is setting up a situation where "Joe O'Connor Limited" could be providing S&C services to 20 teams around the country in a few years. Tesco will probably in to the market after that. Not good enough. We were definitely sold a pup in that one.
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Post by MrRasherstoyou on Sept 7, 2018 10:37:51 GMT
Congrats to any Treaty connected people here and to Limerick of course, a wonderful breakthrough after many heartbreaking defeats. Also they are an example to all counties in terms of putting the right structures in place and then knuckling down for years and doing the work. Getting the best advice and pulling together. And they have a cool Jersey too. The ma-in-law is a proud Limerick woman from near Askeaton. And I have a good friend from Abbeyfeale(Limerick end), and one of my brothers best friends is a great Limerick sportsman.
I felt Galway were only hanging on all year, and no surprise but in that context what a fantastic defence of the title they put up. And the arguments over what and why Joe was doing with that last free have been legendary. Galway will be back, and hopefully they, Limerick, and maybe Clare will be the dominant teams for a few years.
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Post by Derek on Sept 7, 2018 12:49:33 GMT
Niall O Mahony was the seniors S&C coach for Kerry (seemly) but it was under Joe O Connors Directions which is a mad sinario. If Niall was the S&C for seniors he should have been the program designer full stop.If Joe is telling all S&C coaces what to do then it is pointless for S&C coaches to get involved with the Kerry Set up. It looks like Joe is setting up a situation where "Joe O'Connor Limited" could be providing S&C services to 20 teams around the country in a few years. Tesco will probably in to the market after that. Not good enough. We were definitely sold a pup in that one. Perhaps you should both read the press statement at the time of Joe's appointment. www.radiokerry.ie/kerry-gaa-appointed-joe-oconnor-head-athletic-development/Bryan Cullen fulfills the same role in Dublin, and I believe Joe has finished up with the Limerick hurlers now.
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Post by Mickmack on Sept 22, 2018 8:43:19 GMT
I was talking to a Tipp man and he was telling me that Liam Cahill is who most of the the supporters want. His u21 team were beaten by Cork by 10 points in Munster but they beat Cork in the All Ireland final with a late goal and Cahills stock has risen. He said Cahill is a hard direct taskmaster and the fans want him. By comparison Willie Maher is more political and has Eamonn oShea former manager on his ticket. The older players want Maher! But the really interesting angle is that both come from the same club, Ballingarry. Liam Sheedy entered the race at the last minute and is now favourite.
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Post by Jigz84 on Sept 26, 2018 15:21:05 GMT
Interesting that Sheedy is back, would've been easy for him to stay in the studio. Tipp may well have won more since 2010 if he stayed on.
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