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Post by Mickmack on Aug 2, 2018 11:51:10 GMT
according to an article today, Clare only made 21 hooks, blockdowns and tackles the last day.
Galway had twice the number.
Clare must up the intensity big time.
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Post by buck02 on Aug 2, 2018 12:13:36 GMT
according to an article today, Clare only made 21 hooks, blockdowns and tackles the last day. Galway had twice the number. Clare must up the intensity big time. I didn’t see the game but heard Galway shot 20 or so wides. Was that the difference? Galway would have won comfortably on a day they had their shooting boots on?
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 2, 2018 13:02:14 GMT
Four of them went over the post and hawkeye said NIL. Both sides missed chances to be fair.
Clare started terribly but grew into it and had an excellent chance in extra time as Galway were without marquee players but Glynn kept then in it.
McInerney is gone for the replay so the wing back Mannion might have to slot in at CHB. This could be pivotal...McInerney is irreplacable and Mannion was outstanding at wing back.
Clare dont win often in Thurles.
Either side would feel they could disrupt Limericks game plan in the final.
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 2, 2018 17:35:06 GMT
The who Tipp management team have resigned.
what now...
Perhaps an Eamonn Kelly and Brendan Cummins duo.
Kelly has been raising his profile slowly with Kerry Laois and Offaly. He is highly thought of as is Cummins who is Kerry goalie coach at the moment.
both are Tipp men of course too.
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 3, 2018 8:18:15 GMT
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Post by kerrygold on Aug 5, 2018 14:06:25 GMT
O'Donnell's goal for Clare was insane!!!
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 5, 2018 15:51:15 GMT
Galway like a tired boxer on the ropes hang on. Is this the 4th year in a row that they have won or lost a semi final by a point?
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Aug 5, 2018 16:01:56 GMT
Lads I thought Peter Duggan was immense for Clare all year. Outstanding all round hurler. I presume he is a shoo-in for an all-star?
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 5, 2018 18:12:52 GMT
O'Donnell's goal for Clare was insane!!! For a small guy Shane is very brave and his first touch is brilliant. He is off to Harvard on a fulbright scholarship for a year so we may not see him in 2019. They took him off in the drawn game and brought him back on and he was brilliant in extra time. Clare were all over the place after 20 mins. I thought what the management did then was brilliant....nearly everyman back, get tackles in, get a foothold in the game and take stock at half time. They stopped Galway in their tracks. They easily won the second half and Shanahers goal chance would have probably won it. Clare needed more from Tony Kelly but he had an off day. Duggan is a savage hurler now even though if took about 5 years to get there. Galway deserved as it was a more even performance from them over the game and Glynn is unmarkable under a high one. His goal and final point were key scores. Galway are on the road a good while now and know how to close out games. I suppose its asking a lot of Limerick to win it at the first time of asking. It would be a wonderful end to the championship if Limerick could win it. If they all perform and if they start Shane Dowling they have a chance.
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Post by glengael on Aug 6, 2018 8:44:24 GMT
How Shanaher's effort did not go in is bizarre to say the least. You could look at it all day and not conjure up the sequence of events that occurred.
A big ask for Limerick but they have an extra week on Galway so who knows. I don't think Shane Dowling will start. Could have a greater impact off the bench.
Galway's tendancy to early wides might cost them some day. It should be a great occasion and it will be surreal to hve all the hurling done before the 1st of September (unless there is a replay).
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 6, 2018 10:27:51 GMT
I don't think Shane Dowling will start. Could have a greater impact off the bench. Shanaher's introduction came too late to save Clare yesterday. I hope Limerick dont make the same mistake in the final
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 6, 2018 11:30:20 GMT
Nicky English: Galway must recuperate and recover, quickly
Overall, in the context of the brilliant hurling semi-finals last weekend, the standard in Thurles dropped off a bit. It was close and exciting in the finish, but there were a lot more mistakes in this replay than we saw last week. Galway won’t mind, although in my view they are going to need every minute of the next two weeks to recuperate and recover.
In the end Clare had every chance to get a minimum of a draw out of this but the fates were against them, and the very Semple Stadium woodwork that had saved them against Tipperary when Jake Morris hit the post and Ian Galvin scored a goal at the other end wasn’t as helpful and cost Aron Shanagher his goal opportunity in the 67th minute.
Like a boxer Galway survived because of the flurry of punches they had thrown in the early rounds and despite the punishment they were taking by the end of the bout.
Joe Canning played a key role in that survival despite concerns that when he was in the corner early on it was because he wasn’t 100 per cent. When the stakes were at their highest, however, he was the one who took the game by the scruff of the neck and showed vital leadership as the game looked as if it might spin out of their control.
Eight points Galway went 1-9 to 0-3 ahead in the 21st minute, and for the remainder of the game they scored only eight more points; of those Canning got five, including the line ball that marked a four-point turnaround after Shanagher’s missed goal.
Clare opted to deploy Colm Galvin as a sweeper again, but on this occasion Galway were ready and well able to work around him. They were very good in the opening period, going hard for the ball and scoring freely. They didn’t make the mistake of putting everything in on Jonathan Glynn and looking for knock-downs – which Galvin cut out in the drawn match. They were more varied.
As a result Galvin wasn’t making the same impact, and when he was switched from sweeper to a more orthodox role he didn’t really make any more of an impact. Other defenders were hitting hopeful ball in the direction of the outnumbered John Conlon and Shane O’Donnell, and Galway were comfortable.
I said in a preview that there would be an influential battle between Daithí Burke and Conlon, but while there was an obvious winner it didn’t have quite the expected influence. Burke had the better of his man, but to me Conlon looked hampered by injury of some sort. He struggled – taking on Burke is hard enough when fully fit – and had to wait until the end for his first and only score of the game.
Last point David McInerney also had a good match at full back, but even so Glynn made an impact with his goal. His influence waned as the match went on, although he provided an invaluable assist for David Burke to score Galway’s last point.
Galway did well to survive, particularly without Gearóid McInerney, whose well-flagged injury kept him out. They managed in the circumstances because Joseph Cooney did well on Peter Duggan, the role that McInerney had in Croke Park until forced off by a calf injury.
Aside from all of the tactical considerations, Galway’s long spell without scoring after they had got the goal just into the second quarter didn’t come against them because Clare squandered so many chances. Their touch was terrible and puck-outs were under pressure – at one stage Tony Kelly spilling the ball out over the sideline.
Even after they had scored the goals Clare were wasteful. Duggan’s missed free towards the end was a glaring example. He tends to have a low trajectory but that strike was just mis-hit.It was reminiscent of the Munster final when he had difficulty with frees, and disappointing for him after being foot-perfect in Croke Park a week before. Yet that’s not to undervalue the great goal he scored.
On fire When he did manage to get ball, Shane O’Donnell was on fire, as his goal demonstrated, but what surprised me about Clare’s attack was that Shanagher got so little time off the bench.
When they review the season Clare will be kicking themselves that they didn’t win either of these semi-final games but equally they had a good year. They impressed and after being written off having lost the Munster final, the extent of their recovery could be seen in the huge support they had back in Thurles.
The champions are still standing, but they really need to replenish their energies in the next fortnight as the challenge of Limerick will be greater than anything they have experienced in recent weeks.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2018 21:00:38 GMT
That hurling programme on rte at the moment couldn't be more twee.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Aug 6, 2018 21:39:08 GMT
That hurling programme on rte at the moment couldn't be more twee. You're fierce cynical 😂 More seriously would you compare it to Kerry-Dublin stuff? I'm enjoying the programme to be honest.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2018 22:41:07 GMT
That hurling programme on rte at the moment couldn't be more twee. You're fierce cynical 😂 More seriously would you compare it to Kerry-Dublin stuff? I'm enjoying the programme to be honest. 😂😂😂I guess I am cynical alright!They glossed over the lad losing the eye pretty quickly. The comparison with Kerry - Dublin is a fair one!
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Post by glengael on Aug 9, 2018 17:11:22 GMT
EXTRAORDINARY STUFF.
Top hurling referee James McGrath has announced that he has stepped down from the national panel of officials after being overlooked for the All-Ireland final.
The Westmeath referee has had the whistle for numerous high profile games over the years, including the replayed All-Ireland finals in 2012 and 2013.
McGrath was the man in the middle for the All-Ireland hurling quarter-final between Limerick and Kilkenny this year, with the referee for the decider traditionallly coming from one of the two quarter-finals.
However, the GAA made the surprise decision to award the clash between Galway and Limerick to Wexford's James Owens, who was in charge of the drawn semi-final between the Tribesmen and Clare.
McGrath has subsequently taken to Facebook to announce that he has resigned from the national panel of referees.
"It is with a heavy heart that I make this decision but I feel my decision has ultimately been made by CRAC for me to resign from the national referees panel with immediate effect," he said.
"It is final and irreversible given the lack of trust, confidence and integrity by CRAC and I feel betrayed by the association as a consequence given my 18 years of unbroken volunteerism to the association on the national refereees panel.
"I wish to place on record my thanks to all my umpires, David Hennessy, David Clune, Tom McNicholas, Johnny Fitzpatrick, Alan Coyne, Paul Reville, Jimmy Weldon among others and thank all the loyal GAA diehards that I became friends with since I commenced refereeing back in 1996 (Maynooth University), Leinster panel '98 & the National panel in 2000.
"Wishing James Owens & Johnny Murphy, referees & all officials the very best of luck in the minor & senior finals on Sunday, August 19th next."
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 10, 2018 16:59:23 GMT
Jackie Tyrrell
Everything feels like it has happened quicker this year. More games in a shorter space of time. The likes of Tipperary and Waterford gone by the middle of June. Two All-Ireland semi-finals happening in the space of 24 hours. And now the final is only nine days away. It feels like it’s upon us without due warning.
The lead-in time to final is very short, particularly for Galway. They have 14 days, whereas Limerick have 21. While Galway were going toe-to-toe with Clare, you can be sure Limerick will have recovered and have been away on a training weekend going to war with each other to get a starting jersey for Sunday week.
I always loved and embraced the run-in to the All-Ireland final because you get giddy with excitement. The nerves and anticipation are like fuel for the engine in this period – you’re counting down the training sessions, the days of work remaining, the hours and minutes, the formalities that had to be got out of the way.
A fortnight is a very tight window for any team to prepare for an All-Ireland final, defending champions or not I became an expert in going through the motions in every facet off my life, except training and preparing myself to be a dog of war from the first whistle. I had a split personality – nice as pie during the day, dodging conversations where I could. Then coming alive at 7 o’clock in Nowlan Park for 90 minutes. All building towards getting close to Croke Park, getting at my opponent, going to dark places to earn that taste and feeling of All-Ireland final day.
Limerick have an advantage here, no doubt about it. It’s not a massive one but it is definitely an advantage.
A fortnight is a very tight window for any team to prepare for an All-Ireland final, defending champions or not. By contrast, Limerick have had time to get rid of any niggles, get everyone in good shape for their A v B games, get tickets and suits and press duties out of the way. John Kiely and Shane Dowling set the tone within minutes of the final whistle – no hype, no madness, all squared away.
On top of that, Kiely, Paul Kinnerk and the team statisticians would all have been in Thurles on Sunday, picking apart every line of the Galway team with a bird’s eye view. So they will be slightly ahead of the curve in that respect – although I think that’s less important this year than in others.
I always felt it was an advantage to play in the first semi-final but that was when teams only had to play three or four matches to make a final. This is Galway’s ninth game of the summer, it’s going to be Limerick’s eighth. There’s a huge body of evidence there from this summer for both teams to analyse. I’m not sure Limerick would have learned an awful lot last Sunday that wasn’t already evident in Galway’s play from the rest of the summer.
That said, an All-Ireland final demands that you drill down deeper than you’ve ever gone before. James Skehill and Nickie Quaid’s puck-outs are going to be put under the microscope – heat-maps, preferred options, go-to-guys, state of the game when they go long and when they go short.
Tactical work Everything gets broken down. How to create space in congested defensive units, the tactical battle, match-ups, how to create space for their forwards lines. The stats app Hudl will be busy on players’ phones this week. Who will I be on? Which side does he favour? Who does he look for? What does he not like?
This is a different final to last year. Galway and Limerick player similar styles. They both drop their wing-forwards back into the middle third to win the breaking ball, they both use cross-field balls from their wing-backs to launch attacks. They both have go-to target men to feed with high ball and puck-outs – Gearóid Hegarty and Kyle Hayes on one side and Johnny Glynn and the Cooneys on the other. Johnny Coen will act as Galway’s screen, the Limerick midfielders will alternate in that job as the game goes on.
The tactical work that goes on ahead of a final will often bypass the middle third of the pitch to a fair extent. With the best will in the world, there is only so much you can plan for when you’re talking about the trenches between the 45s.
Hurling is so instinctive, especially when the space is squeezed with athletic bodies hunting with bad intent. Mostly, the main tactic in and around the middle third is to get on ball and work it as best you can. You’re not going to have time for anything more subtle.
It’s a different story when you talk about the two inside lines. The level of homework players can do running up to the final is massive, especially when it comes to defenders getting an idea of how to play against specific attackers.
If you take Graeme Mulcahy and Aaron Gillane for example, the Galway corner-backs can use these days to build a picture for themselves of what they’re going to face.
Having played on Graeme before, I know first-hand what he is about. He has pace, he is a wristy hurler and he’s very accurate. Against that, everything is done on his left side. When I marked him, any time he received the ball I took a step to my right. As I got older and slower, I took two steps to my right and waited for him to turn into me and onto his left. Increasingly, he was too quick for me and I couldn’t get close enough to block him.
So if you’re Adrian Tuohy – presuming that’s who Galway detail to mark him – you’re going back through Mulcahy’s scores in this year’s championship. Four points against Cork – all off his left. Four points in the first half against Tipperary away back at the start of the Munster championship – all off his left. Two of them where he shaped to shoot off his right before jinking back onto his go-to side. I don’t remember him shooting off his right all year.
Blind spot That has to be Job Number One for Tuohy or whoever is marking Mulcahy on Sunday week. Make him shoot off his right. He obviously doesn’t want to do it – so make him do it in an All-Ireland final. Test him when the pressure is highest.
With Gillane, you’re looking at a lad who could potentially be in the Hurler of the Year running – if he held onto his hurl more in vital game me scenarios, he’d probably be out in front.
He loves to float in behind the defence and come from the defenders’ blind spot, using the defenders’ body to lean on and catch the ball while holding down his marker. His body position is side-on so the defender won’t catch him when he catches the ball – he is always rotating his body in mid-air towards the goal and pushing the defender away.
Graeme Mulcahy: strongly favours his left side when it comes to engineering an effort on goal. His four points against Cork in the semi-final came off his left side. Photograph: Oisin Keniry/Inpho Graeme Mulcahy strongly favours his left side when it comes to engineering an effort on goal. His four points against Cork in the semi-final came off his left side. Photograph: Oisin Keniry/Inpho This is very smart stuff for a rookie and Limerick take full advantage of his cleverness. They distribute the ball into Gillane at a good trajectory which means the defender hasn’t time to turn around and see where he is. As a defender in Croke Park on All-Ireland final day, the last thing you need is to be trying to keep an eye on two things at once, especially when one of them is arrowing towards you at speed and the other is ducking and diving around your blind spot.
So Galway need to be equally smart about it. First of all, they need to be alive to the tactic because this is how Gillane has kept sneaking in for goal chances over the past few games. He’s been careless in taking them up to now but that won’t last forever. Galway can’t trust that he’s going to keep missing.
What I would do is keep Gillane in front of me at all times. When he makes a run out into space, sometimes he likes to check back and let the defender run out past him, meaning he then has the defender where he wants him in front of him. John Hanbury will probably be on him so he needs to know in advance that this is one of Gillane’s tricks. Don’t fall for it.
Defenders need to learn the art of spoiling and grappling. It’s a tool you absolutely need from time to time Hanbury will need to get his dancing shoes on and practice his footwork in the ladders this week. Top of his list must be adjusting his feet quickly to stop and get back in behind Gillane and take away that low-trajectory option. Hanbury is excellent at breaking the ball down from the attacker when the attacker is in front of him, where he can get his hands on him. If he gets used to running hard, breaking and readjusting his feet and body behind Gillane, his life will be a lot easier under those high balls.
On the other side, Limerick have to be working on a plan for what to do with Johnny Glynn. Glynn has been immense, a real leader in the early exchanges when they’re building up those big leads and later on when they’re having to hold on in games. His aerial ability is phenomenal and as long as Galway are able to send him the right kind of ball, he is a huge danger.
Spoiling and grappling Watching him in his games so far this year, I think defenders have been overly naive against him. Go back and watch his goal against Clare last week – David McInerney tries to out-catch him. McInerney is one of the best full-backs in the business but he had to know that wasn’t the way to go. You might catch one in front of Glynn but if that’s your policy for the day, he’s going to get his paw up ahead of you eventually. And he generally makes it count.
Defenders need to learn the art of spoiling and grappling. It’s a tool you absolutely need from time to time. I needed it with Brian Begley and Séamus Prendergast, two man-mountains who I knew I wouldn’t beat in the air. So I played to my strengths, and strived to take the catch away from them. I learned it from Noel Hickey.
It’s all about disruption, knock the forward’s hands away from the ball, using any part of your body to unsettle their strong base, making it as hard as possible to see the ball, let alone catch it. The timing of your physical encounter with the forward is crucial – too early and it gives them time to readjust their body, too late and it’s a goal.
Limerick will have decided by now who is going on Glynn. I’d go with Richie English but they’ll probably stick with Mike Casey. Either way, Glynn is going to have a height advantage and a physical edge. No matter.
Whoever it is, Casey or English, need to be obsessed with Glynn from now until throw-in. All they have to do is get through the game without him causing panic. They don’t have to make a catch or send a clearance 100 yards – just make sure Glynn is spoiled and bumped and shackled.
Nine days to go and these are the thoughts that are swimming through the heads of everybody who’ll be playing. I still wish I was one of them.
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Post by dc84 on Aug 12, 2018 23:28:45 GMT
Great article
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Post by glengael on Aug 13, 2018 8:17:17 GMT
Yes, although tis difficult to imagine any Kilkenny player being allowed to get 'giddy with excitement' before an All Ireland...
Really odd to be talking about a Hurling Final the week of the 15th of August. Is there a review for the new calender at the end of this year or will it not be discussed at all til the end of 3 years?
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Post by glengael on Aug 14, 2018 9:02:16 GMT
That hurling programme on rte at the moment couldn't be more twee. It was a bit self congratulatory at times but overall enjoyable and plenty of social history recorded as well. Even the 90's seem ancient now, only a few helmets and the advent of the Guinness sponsorship. The pride and passion of those involved shone through and what being involved means to them. Didn't really address more structural issues and how to help hurling outside the elite but that may not have been within its remit. Since Offaly in 1998, only Clare (1) and Galway (1) have won from outside the traditional powers.
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Post by Jigz84 on Aug 16, 2018 11:48:53 GMT
There's plenty wrong with hurling too but it's not discussed or not allowed to be discussed.
I'd like to see Limerick winning but history tells us they rarely follow one great win with another. Galway for me.
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Post by onlykerry on Aug 16, 2018 13:40:51 GMT
One of the main reasons the huling championship produced so many good games and generated huge excitement is that the championship is tiered - the senior championship is a competition of near equals where the mis matches that plague football are avoided. Why are these same counties and GAA administrators so opposed to injecting life into the football championship.
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 16, 2018 22:37:35 GMT
What makes this years hurling championship so intoxicating is the competitiveness.
Nearly every team has a glaring weakness
Galway are tired and hanging on the ropes using their experience to do enough. Limerick are inexperienced and have baggage from losing too often. Cork had no subs worth bringing on and a poor fullback and CHB. KK had great backs but not enough good forwards Tipp had great forwards but poor backs Clare had too many fellas not able to find form when it mattered Waterford had too many injured Dublins freetaking let them down especially against KK Wexford were a bit off the pace as were Offaly.
But who cares as long as we get games like we had this summer.
The mind goes back to 1980 and Limerick v Galway. Three pounds at the gate into the Hill. Bernie Forde cut loose that day and Galways long wait was over. Limericks famine was only 7 years old that day. Its 45 years now and a win for them would gladden the heart and shorten what is going to be a longer winter than normal with no All Irelands to look forward to in September.
Galway know how to close out a final now. Limerick do not.
Two very different styles. Limericks puckout...diagonal ball to corner forward...score versus Galway's more traditional physical approach.
A dry day would suit Limerick more than a wet day.
Both sides have big panels and plenty of firepower off the bench.
Jonathan Glynn is like Donaghy...unmarkable given the right supply.
There are goals in Limerick especially Gillane if he can steady up a bit and hold onto his hurley.
But Galway have Joe Canning.
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Post by dc84 on Aug 17, 2018 11:41:47 GMT
One of the main reasons the huling championship produced so many good games and generated huge excitement is that the championship is tiered - the senior championship is a competition of near equals where the mis matches that plague football are avoided. Why are these same counties and GAA administrators so opposed to injecting life into the football championship. Thats very true re the tiering, football is a lot harder though as the quarters showed also there were what probably two good games in our group mon v kil and mon v kerry, and the same in the other tyr v dublin and don v tyr and one good semi
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Post by glengael on Aug 19, 2018 10:48:48 GMT
It would be fantastic if Limerick won today but I think Galway's experience might see them through. If it's a draw when is the replay fixed for ?
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Post by clarinman on Aug 19, 2018 13:35:40 GMT
It would be fantastic if Limerick won today but I think Galway's experience might see them through. If it's a draw when is the replay fixed for ? Saturday after football final.
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Post by kerrygold on Aug 19, 2018 15:15:48 GMT
Cagey first half.
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Post by kerrygold on Aug 19, 2018 15:34:16 GMT
Limerick heading for the gate.
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Post by glengael on Aug 19, 2018 16:54:04 GMT
It was a close run thing but Limerick deservedly ended the famine. Great credit to all those who have carried the flame and supported them all through the barren years. Galway have I think put minor titles back to back so they aren 't going away.
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Post by clarinman on Aug 19, 2018 17:00:35 GMT
It was a close run thing but Limerick deservedly ended the famine. Great credit to all those who have carried the flame and supported them all through the barren years. Galway have I think put minor titles back to back so they aren 't going away. Galway have won 3 of last 4 minor titles - 15/17/18.
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