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Post by Mickmack on May 10, 2018 14:47:52 GMT
Can the 5 kickers be drawn from outside the 15 players on the field when the game ends.
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Post by givehimaball on May 11, 2018 15:28:57 GMT
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Post by kerrygold on May 11, 2018 16:14:44 GMT
Strange going on a county holiday during the club window of April?
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Post by onlykerry on May 11, 2018 16:43:09 GMT
Was he auditioning for a role in a Father Ted revival!!! Right up there with the money was just resting in my account.....
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Post by southward on May 11, 2018 18:51:22 GMT
Red card for high tackles has potential to be a disaster. Referees will have to distinguish between an actual clothesline job and a situation where the victim has the head down. Otherwise, yes, it will be a disaster and could lead to fellas engineering red cards for opponents by burrowing into an arm or putting the head down at the last second when they see the tackle coming.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2018 19:32:15 GMT
Strange going on a county holiday during the club window of April? The Dublin trip, sorry I mean educational excursion was in May.
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Post by kerrygold on May 12, 2018 6:43:14 GMT
Ya, shur once they didn't train.....................
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Post by kerrygold on May 16, 2018 21:25:18 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2018 21:58:01 GMT
They are a gas crowd in Offaly.
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Post by hurlingman on May 16, 2018 22:01:45 GMT
Has there ever been a bigger disaster of an appointment?
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Post by kerrygold on May 16, 2018 22:12:49 GMT
They are a gas crowd in Offaly. They are gas alright with the way they "dilly and dally" around with a few minutes to go! High ball into square, a nudge, a wink and all that...................................
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Post by Mickmack on May 16, 2018 22:24:29 GMT
TOM O'RIORDAN
July 8 1998 12:11 AM
THE uneasy alliance which had existed over the last two months between the Offaly hurling team and manager Michael `Babs' Keating, finally cracked yesterday when the former Tipperary star resigned.
THE uneasy alliance which had existed over the last two months between the Offaly hurling team and manager Michael `Babs' Keating, finally cracked yesterday when the former Tipperary star resigned. Brendan Ward, the chairman of the Offaly Co Board, admitted last night that in the circumstances Keating was left with no option but to get out after just nine months in the job.
``I had been attempting to get in touch with Babs for most of the day and he eventually rang me back and said that he was resigning. I accepted his resignation,'' said Ward last night.
WEIGHTED HEAVILY
However he felt that this action by Keating might now lift whatever dissatisfactions and unhappiness which appeared to have weighted heavily on the shoulders of certain Offaly players.
He also felt that the team, as a whole, would benefit and that they will go on and make their mark in the All-Ireland series, beginning with the quarter-final against either Galway, Antrim or Roscommon at Croke Park on July 26.
``Under the circumstances, Babs did the right thing but this might be just the thing to get our team playing like they,'' said Ward who promised that no stone will be left unturned to have a replacement found for Keating as soon as possible, probably within the next seven days.
NOT LISTENING
Ward disclosed that he and the Offaly secretary, Christy Todd, had met Keating on Monday night to discuss the comments he made to the media after Offaly's defeat by Kilkenny in Sunday's Leinster final when he compared his team to sheep running around in a heap and not listening to what he was saying.
``We discussed many things with Babs and we made our points to him.
``He accepted them and he was prepared to continue as manager and we were happy with that, especially since we were only three weeks away from an All-Ireland quarter-final.''
Yesterday Keating outlined his reasons for stepping down as manager while the Offaly team are still in with a chance of lifting the McCarthy Cup.
Keating referred to the response from midfielder, Johnny Pilkington to his post-match comments after Sunday's defeat which appeared in yesterday's Irish Independent. ``It was a condemnation of me more than the Offaly team and some Offaly people jumped to hasty conclusions,'' said Keating.
``I met the County Board last night and they saw it the way I saw it.
``Having thought about it, I felt it more beneficial for hurling in Offaly to step down at this stage because the game of hurling in Offaly is bigger than the County Board.''
Keating indicated in his radio interview that he changed his mind about remaining on at the helm after receiving a few phone calls in light of Pilkington's response.
The player accused Keating of making the players look like idiots and indisciplined, of making poor tactical decisions during the game and of not doing sufficient ball-work in training.
Keating went on to say that to be fair to the Offaly hurlers a number of them made a serious attempt to get it right but there were others who did not do so.
``At this stage they still have a chance and some one might help to bring them through to the final campaign'' he said.
Keating went on to say that while he was not happy with a few developments he never wanted to be accused of causing disruption within Offaly hurling.
But he felt that if Pilkington wanted to be genuine in his criticism or response to his Croke Park interview with the media ``he should have told the whole story, not half of it or a third of it.''
It was on May 3 came the first hint that all was not rosy in the Offaly camp when Keating announced after a fund-raising match against Tipperary in Clonmel that he was resigning because of the failure of a number of players to make it to the venue and other problems within the county.
Ward managed to talk Keating out of resigning and agreed to come back if matters were trashed out to his satisfaction.
TRAINING SESSION
Two nights later he conducted a full training session and afterwards discussed many issues with the Executive.
However it's no secret that after that development the relationship between Keating and the players, and visa versa, was never the same.
The trust and confidence which existed when he took over began to wear thin.
One player who wished to remain anonymous told me that normally he loved coming to training and really looked forward to it but in recent weeks he grew to dislike it because of the lack of real competitive hurling.
As Ward says the ball is now back in Offaly's court and it's up to the players to respond and show what they are made of in their hour of crisis.
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Post by Mickmack on May 16, 2018 22:25:12 GMT
8 weeks after that happened in 1998, Offaly won the All ireland and we had a sit in by the fans in Croker after the ref blew up the game v Clare early too
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on May 17, 2018 5:32:13 GMT
The 8 week suspension done for Wallace- it’s hard for an outside manager, especially one with a relatively low profile, to come in to a county and he lost any chance of gaining credibility once that happened.
Imagine trying to discipline players, etc after that- they’d not take you seriously
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Post by kerrygold on May 17, 2018 7:04:42 GMT
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Post by kerrygold on May 17, 2018 7:05:23 GMT
8 weeks after that happened in 1998, Offaly won the All ireland and we had a sit in by the fans in Croker after the ref blew up the game v Clare early too Unlikely to be repeated this time....................
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Post by glengael on May 17, 2018 8:34:06 GMT
Offaly haven't won anything in so long, I would imagine any manager will struggle and who would want the job now with those reports of players losing the head at being substituted etc. At this rate they won't have too many days out in the qualifiers.
The extra sideshow of Stephen Wallace's suspension only added to a difficult situation.
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Post by buck02 on May 17, 2018 9:01:44 GMT
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Post by fivenarow on May 17, 2018 10:37:01 GMT
Outside of the Wicklow result, I'd imagine theres a code of conduct within Offaly gaa & the Austin Stacks Park incident was more than likely in breach of that. Removing him last week after the failed appeal would have looked worse with a championship game last weekend.Obviously the result didnt help the matter.
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Post by Mickmack on May 17, 2018 13:07:21 GMT
You can imagine the weeping and gnashing of teeth by the business people in Tullamore, not to mention Offaly GAA, when the money spinner of the Dubs v Offaly game went up in smoke.
That's the code of conduct that matters!
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Post by Annascaultilidie on May 17, 2018 13:24:43 GMT
I am struggling to muster sympathy for Wallace to be honest.
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on May 17, 2018 16:48:37 GMT
You can imagine the weeping and gnashing of teeth by the business people in Tullamore, not to mention Offaly GAA, when the money spinner of the Dubs v Offaly game went up in smoke. That's the code of conduct that matters! Well that’s debatable but what we can all agree on is that punching a lad in the head as he’s falling to the ground prob didn’t help his credibility
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Post by Mickmack on May 17, 2018 17:41:03 GMT
Cormac Byrne
May 17 2018 12:35 PM
Something is rotten in the state of Offaly.
The defeat to Wicklow and the subsequent dismissal of Stephen Wallace has shone a light on the Faithful county and it ain't basking in its glow.
County Board: We're acting in the best interest of the players.
Players: We're 100pc behind Stephen Wallace and his management team.
County Board: Stephen is gone and we're hiring an interim manager for the rest of the year.
Hmmmm...
County Board: We're letting Stephen go because he can't take part in training and he can't be on the sideline for games.
Wallace: I haven't been able to take part in training for two weeks now (since the Kerry Hearing Committee upheld his proposed eight-week ban).
Hmmm...
County Board chairman: I was unaware that our inter-county football manager had an appeal against an eight week ban on Saturday and only heard that it was unsuccessful on Sunday.
Hmmmm...
County board: Players still in the under-20 age bracket will play at that grade only in Championship.
Cian Johnson (teenager who starred in five Offaly league games): I want to play for the seniors, it's always been my dream and the senior management want me to play for them but Offaly are just preventing me from doing that
Wallace: We want Cian Johnson to be available to us for Championship.
County board: Denied. We stand by our rule.
Interviewer: Does the Offaly county board have too much of a say in matters relating to the senior team?
County board chairman: The county board wouldn't be involved in what goes on at training or anything like that other than what we have to put in place.
Hmmmm...
Wallace: The County Board has put roadblocks in our way every second of every day.
County Board chairman: He's bound to be hurting now. I'm not going to get into that. We haven't had ongoing battles with him.
Hmmm...
Stop me if I'm missing something.
So the players handed Offaly county board chairman Tommy Byrne a statement at around 8pm stating their desire to continue under Wallace's reign, a management committee meeting was convened at 8.30pm and soon afterwards Byrne calls Wallace to say goodbye.
The Faithful squad must be scratching their heads this morning.
Their wishes have been ignored, the manager that was trying to put a three-year plan into action is gone, one of their star players has been kept from playing for them by an internal rule and they have no manager in place for a first round qualifier game on June 9.
At least they have the consolation in knowing that the decision was made in their best interest.
Their reasoning for axing Wallace simply doesn't add up.
If it was fine for him to manage the team over the last fortnight while under suspension then why has it suddenly become impossible.
Byrne accepts responsibility for Wallace's appointment but won't resign.
To be fair, he couldn't possibly have foreseen what occurred in the game between John Mitchels and Ardfert in March but the fact that he was unaware that Wallace's appeal was going ahead on Saturday and wasn't aware of the result until a few hours before the defeat to the Garden county is much more concerning.
Former Offaly referee Brian Gavin hit the airwaves this week to make revelations surrounding Sunday's game only to have some of his claims contradicted by one of the players on social media.
He was a highly respected referee but his intervention is almost unprecedented and I wonder will the Offaly squad thank him for it now.
The story feels incomplete and we may never know the details in their entirety.
Offaly have a fabulous new training facility at 'Faithful Fields', there is clearly a desire to return to the glory days of the past but they seem to be getting in their own way.
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Post by Mickmack on May 17, 2018 17:43:10 GMT
In my opinion, there wouldn't be a peep out of Offaly county Board if Offaly were meeting Dublin in Tullamore in the championship.
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Post by royalkerryfan on May 17, 2018 18:35:14 GMT
In my opinion, there wouldn't be a peep out of Offaly county Board if Offaly were meeting Dublin in Tullamore in the championship. Regardless Mick that incident in Tralee was disgraceful and not the behaviour of a county manager.
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Post by Mickmack on May 17, 2018 18:50:25 GMT
Why did the incident in Tralee only become an issue for Offaly after they lost to Wicklow. Can someone explain that?
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Post by royalkerryfan on May 17, 2018 18:58:49 GMT
Why did the incident in Tralee only become an issue for Offaly after they lost to Wicklow. Can someone explain that? Well I'd hazard a guess that sacking him in the run up to the championship opener would have been disastrous timing wise. After a calamitous defeat it was the final straw for the CB.
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Post by Mickmack on May 17, 2018 19:04:37 GMT
Fair enough.
In other words, "we will put up with the Tralee incident if we beat Wicklow and get the Dubs rollin into town".
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on May 17, 2018 19:09:15 GMT
Exactly. Same way as we put up with Galvin’s numerous scrapes- because be could help us win. Do you think jack would have put up with some of that stuff from a mediocre footballer? See Connolly for the same principle
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Post by royalkerryfan on May 17, 2018 19:22:29 GMT
I remember Pardew head butting Hull city's Myler a few seasons back. As soon as a manager those that or throws a punch you loose all moral high ground.
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