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Post by thechosenone on Jun 4, 2018 22:15:54 GMT
Great performance by Kerry. That was some scoring return. Forwards were excellent but Clare were very poor. Seemed to lack any game plan. One positive performance from Clare was Gordon Kelly on David Clifford. Didn't give him any space and given the quality of ball coming into the forwards he couldn't have done any better.
Kerry still sticking with packing bodies between the two 45's when defending. Fitzmaurice seems to really believe in this tactic but not sure how well it will work against better opposition as we have seen on previous occasions.
The backs weren't tested as Clare weren't able to deliver good enough ball into the full forward line. In saying that I thought Crowley looked a little lost in full back at times. Don't think he's suited to that position as he's not tight enough.
Cameo performance by Donaghy drew huge cheers from the crowd. He really has something about him in that regard but I don't see him having much of a contribution in this year's campaign.
Looking forward to Cork in 3 weeks.
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Post by sullyschoice on Jun 4, 2018 22:29:18 GMT
The set up for Clare kickouts was interesting. Kerry line very advanced. Covering any possibility of any short option and an awful lot of vocals. This was particularly noticeable in the second half when the crowd went dead. And Booty constantly shouting "work" from the sideline.
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Post by fealeside on Jun 5, 2018 7:36:51 GMT
I wouldn't be too worried about the lack of goals at all. To be fair we should have come away with two yesterday so it's not as if we aren't creating the opportunities. They will definitely come. As they old saying goes 'take your points and the goals will come'. Interesting to here Fitzmaurice address JO'D playing a more deeper role. I guess the more ball he gets on to the better in terms of his confidence. I think the likes of Donaghy and Maher will have important roles to play in this campaign. I think Maher is much more an important player than most give him credit for.
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Post by dc84 on Jun 5, 2018 7:50:42 GMT
Can anybody answer the question posed by Clarinman in the last page, how come Donaghy isn't suspended? Have we finally started appealing red cards or what? On the team, it looks good on paper. I hope the crowd don't get on their backs tomorrow if things aren't going well. Sure he mised the whole league 7 ic games
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Post by Jigz84 on Jun 5, 2018 8:01:19 GMT
Pace, movement, direct, efficient - words that best describe Sunday's performance for me. Gavin White looked very comfortable and Stephen O'Brien superb. Sean O'Shea brilliant from the dead balls. Onwards to Cork, will be an interesting Saturday evening on the 23rd.
p.s. the state of the scoreboard end was a disgrace with weeds!
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Post by dc84 on Jun 5, 2018 8:02:23 GMT
I did not see or hear much of the game but the one snippet I heard was a 45 being taken by Sean o Shea and sent wide now I know it was a wonderful new dawn hopefully today but we went from David Moran missing the 45 now to Sean o Shea missing what appears to be Close on 50%? Scoring from these , Can we not have a clear plan B and aim at a player nearer goal to try manafacture something if our 45 s are only 50 /50 chances I know many U16 kids and some U14 that can score 45 s what is our problem here.? I would say against the strong breeze or from a difficult angle let’s try make a play instead? Or don’t go direct at all if we are not confident that we have a high percentage shooter Very harsh there! Who was the last player to score 7 points on his debut for kerry? OShea will only get better as the years go on rock is a good example his % have increased year on year. White was supposed to have been excellent added huge pace and verve i heard? Couldnt make it myself but cant wait to be on the city terrace in 3 weeks watching this exciting team again
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Post by onlykerry on Jun 5, 2018 8:50:30 GMT
I did not see or hear much of the game but the one snippet I heard was a 45 being taken by Sean o Shea and sent wide now I know it was a wonderful new dawn hopefully today but we went from David Moran missing the 45 now to Sean o Shea missing what appears to be Close on 50%? Scoring from these , Can we not have a clear plan B and aim at a player nearer goal to try manafacture something if our 45 s are only 50 /50 chances I know many U16 kids and some U14 that can score 45 s what is our problem here.? I would say against the strong breeze or from a difficult angle let’s try make a play instead? Or don’t go direct at all if we are not confident that we have a high percentage shooter Very harsh there! Who was the last player to score 7 points on his debut for kerry? OShea will only get better as the years go on rock is a good example his % have increased year on year. White was supposed to have been excellent added huge pace and verve i heard? Couldnt make it myself but cant wait to be on the city terrace in 3 weeks watching this exciting team again Snippets can be so dangerous when taken in isolation!!! - Sean O Shea was very good with the placed balls and takes the pressure off David Moran (not a natural free taker who stepped into the breach when needed).
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Post by veteran on Jun 5, 2018 9:42:38 GMT
I met an old codger at the races in Listowel yesterday and he is convinced that Sunday was 1975 revisited. It is a giant leap and it must be remembered that the 1974 title winning team was not as formidable as the current Dubs but he pointed out that the 1973 Cork team were a powerful outfit also and were odds on favourites in Killarney in 1975. Perhaps he is on to something. We will have a better idea after 23/06/2018.
Only an out and out curmudgeon could have a moan about what we saw on Sunday. Eamon did what we all desired by releasing a collection of colts , chaperoned by few more streetwise heads , onto the sun drenched sward of Fitzgerald Stadium. Greeted by seventeen thousand onlookers, they did what all young colts, calves etc do on first being released on grass with the sun blazing, they went berserk, galloping hither and thither with reckless abandon. Other occupants of the field , in this case the Clare footballers, merely lifted their heads occasionally , nodding to each other that we will leave them at it for a while. They will soon burn themselves out and then we will move in and the old dog will show how you do things at this level. Sadly for Clare there was no slackening off , the crazy young ones continued to gambol and cavort, leaving the visitors with no option but to fold the tents to avoid being trampled in the stampede. But of course several of them were trampled!
The foregoing is an effort to paint a picture for those who were unable to attend the match. That is how it more or less transpired. Kerry could not have done more , each and every one of them, while Clare, even though having started brightly, were disembowelled from a very early stage. On the day, Clare looked heavy footed and totally out of their depth. It is easy to conclude that Kerry beat nothing. But of course nobody , before the match, was telling us that we were playing nothing. Clare consolidated their division two status and it is not unreasonable to suggest that the width of a crossbar prevented them from beating us in Ennis last year. I think we have to give huge credit to the team and management for Sunday's effort. Clare werde enveloped by an onslaught of relentless pressure and pace. Gone was the lazy, ponderous backwards and sideways hand passing. This was supplanted by heads up direct passing, complemented by varying, purposeful angles of running. This was further supplemented by a watertight , for the most part, defence where every man had the beating of his opponent. What was reflected on the scoreboard was the inevitable end product. Kerry buoyant, Clare demoralised.
It is self evidently obvious there are more intimidating hurdles ahead with a Mount Everest at the end, if we get that far, but as far as the Clare match went it would not be too generous to give it a mark of eight or nine out of ten.
I was delighted with Peter at full back . His strength and guile won him two balls in the first half which were not his. Wouldn't he an ideal opponent for Damian Comer? The corner men were in command of their areas.
Like the full back line, the half back were rarely stretched with Paul as "crazy" as any of the neophytes.
Midfield struggled early on but got on top as the game advanced. Jack had a storming second half but I always feel there is a lot more there. He was very tentative at the start, lack of confidence against Garry Brennan?, but finished as the best midfielder on view. If somebody could instil more self belief in Jack we would have a top man.
All the forwards played well. One would expect it from the inside trio but it was gratifying to witness the hard work and indeed the scoring exploits of the half forward line. They went back when it was necessary, worked purposefully back there and then sprinted forward at pace. Retreating back can be a great hiding place for forwards, achieving nothing there other than taking up space. Not so with these boys. It was also pleasing to see young Sean O'Shea kicking long range frees from the ground, one a forty five if I remember correctly. Did he miss just one? Kicked a couple from play also.
I was surprised that Kevin McCarthy was not brought on.
Well, we all have dished out plenty of criticism during the NFL. Therefore a heartfelt thanks to players and management for giving us such a lift on Sunday. We are not foolish enough to thing that we have it in the bag at this stage or indeed that we will come close in 2018. However, if this method and style and personnel are adhered to then we will have little to complain about.
P.S. Due to traffic I missed first half of ladies game. They give a great exhibition in the second half. The crowd were very appreciative of their efforts and they got a huge ovation at the end. Best of luck to them against Cork.
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Post by fealeside on Jun 5, 2018 9:50:22 GMT
I think someone said on here that Kevin McCarthy picked up an illness at the end of last week so maybe that's why he wasn't used
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Post by 6 in a row on Jun 5, 2018 10:00:58 GMT
Can anyone tell me if their season ticket account was updated following Sundays match. Mine has not.
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Post by buck02 on Jun 5, 2018 10:23:15 GMT
The set up for Clare kickouts was interesting. Kerry line very advanced. Covering any possibility of any short option and an awful lot of vocals. This was particularly noticeable in the second half when the crowd went dead. And Booty constantly shouting "work" from the sideline. That made me nearly choke on my coffee
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Post by buck02 on Jun 5, 2018 10:31:47 GMT
A cracking display of football from Kerry on Sunday. Its hard to know how good or bad Clare are because each of our players were so much better than their man on the day.
A few observations I had was the similarities of how our defence set up with some of the league games I saw. Foley and Crowley were left with 60 yards of space in front of them for long parts of the game, but maybe that was just a consequence of our dominance elsewhere in the pitch.
While it was interesting to see the set-up for Clare's kickouts, with 12 Kerry players swamping the area between the Clare end-line and our 65 in 3 lines. What wasnt said he was the amount of marks that Clare still managed to get from their own kickouts. I would say 6 or 7?
At the end of the game we were trying to decide would a close game have been better for Kerry or will the confidence that performance will give the young lads be better for Kerry. I'd go for the latter.
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Post by glengael on Jun 5, 2018 11:51:46 GMT
Pace, movement, direct, efficient - words that best describe Sunday's performance for me. Gavin White looked very comfortable and Stephen O'Brien superb. Sean O'Shea brilliant from the dead balls. Onwards to Cork, will be an interesting Saturday evening on the 23rd. p.s. the state of the scoreboard end was a disgrace with weeds! Planning has been applied ad approved to do work on the stadium, maybe they are leaving the weeds grow til it's time to do the whole job. 'In April, Kerry GAA County Committee lodged a new application with Kerry County Council for a ten-year permission to re-construct the terrace and scoreboard at the western end of the stadium, with shops and toilets underneath.
The application also seeks to re-construct part of the wall on the western boundary, and to build new entrance stiles and exit gates.
Planners have given the application the green light.' (from Radio Kerry News)
Who knows that might even put in the clock......
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Post by kerrygold on Jun 5, 2018 12:30:04 GMT
Pace, movement, direct, efficient - words that best describe Sunday's performance for me. Gavin White looked very comfortable and Stephen O'Brien superb. Sean O'Shea brilliant from the dead balls. Onwards to Cork, will be an interesting Saturday evening on the 23rd. p.s. the state of the scoreboard end was a disgrace with weeds! Planning has been applied ad approved to do work on the stadium, maybe they are leaving the weeds grow til it's time to do the whole job. 'In April, Kerry GAA County Committee lodged a new application with Kerry County Council for a ten-year permission to re-construct the terrace and scoreboard at the western end of the stadium, with shops and toilets underneath.
The application also seeks to re-construct part of the wall on the western boundary, and to build new entrance stiles and exit gates.
Planners have given the application the green light.' (from Radio Kerry News) Who knows that might even put in the clock...... The toilets were a disgrace under the stand, it was hard to find a seat without birds.hit on it while the terrace under the scoreboard looked sub nuclear zone. The place bore all the hallmarks of rented property that had been idle for the winter causally opened for a random weekend. Surely we have more pride in Fitzgerald stadium than that. To the football, full of positives, Kerry were very good all over the field. Our own kickout hasn't been sorted yet. Clare won three of Kerry's in the first 20 minutes while the game was still valid. It looks like work in progress but is far from the finished article. All the young players can hold their heads up, all were excellent in their first championship start.
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Post by oldschool on Jun 5, 2018 13:39:25 GMT
Just a few quick points. Kerry were very good, a delight to watch. Our kick out (and opposition's kick out ie reaction) is not fully sorted. Kerry did not score a goal? I think ref turned blind eye to the pulling and dragging of David Clifford. Cautionary Note and meant with best intention>>>>> DID WE SHOW OUR FULL HAND A LITTLE EARLY. I know there are pros and cons.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jun 5, 2018 14:14:21 GMT
Just a few quick points. Kerry were very good, a delight to watch. Our kick out (and opposition's kick out ie reaction) is not fully sorted. Kerry did not score a goal? I think ref turned blind eye to the pulling and dragging of David Clifford. Cautionary Note and meant with best intention>>>>> DID WE SHOW OUR FULL HAND A LITTLE EARLY. I know there are pros and cons. Not showing it (or not practising it?) has not done much for Kerry in recent years.
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Post by dc84 on Jun 5, 2018 14:23:08 GMT
Just a few quick points. Kerry were very good, a delight to watch. Our kick out (and opposition's kick out ie reaction) is not fully sorted. Kerry did not score a goal? I think ref turned blind eye to the pulling and dragging of David Clifford. Cautionary Note and meant with best intention>>>>> DID WE SHOW OUR FULL HAND A LITTLE EARLY. I know there are pros and cons. Not showing it (or not practising it?) has not done much for Kerry in recent years.With so much competition no one can afford to have an off day on that team. The dubs dont worry about it and neither should we flat out min 1 to 70+ everygame should be the mantra
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Post by gamechanger10 on Jun 5, 2018 14:48:51 GMT
dc84, Correct and right with regard to the attacking mentality as i believe we had become far too cagy with out strategy over recent years, as soon as we got ahead in any game we seemed more interested in defending our lead than adding to it. In the semifinal against the Dubs in ‘07 we had a tight lead but we maintained an attacking mindset until we won the game, i know it was 12 years since they had won it and perhaps they were a little too tentative as a result.
Yesterday was Blitzkrieg football, we were relentless and demoralizing in the way we attacked and there was no mercy shown to an ailing foe. While Sundays show has us all a little giddy about the future i think it is also fair to say that we all know that with stiffer opposition we will not be quiet as slick or mesmerizing when we encounter the blanket or indeed the Dubs, in saying that i believe that confidence will replace hope in the weeks ahead. Ciarrai Abú
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Post by Jigz84 on Jun 5, 2018 15:32:56 GMT
Can anyone tell me if their season ticket account was updated following Sundays match. Mine has not. Updated now.
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Post by dano on Jun 5, 2018 16:33:56 GMT
Great performance. Away more than I expected. No more chasing after div 2 teams that are punching above their weight and sensing a weakness in the Kingdom. Last year, at times, Clare looked like they could have beaten us. From the start it was obvious that this was different kerry team and plan. When James O D popped over his point around the 25th minute it meant all the 6 forwards had scored from play.There and then a feeling came over me like a warm blanket. It's early days yet but this team is coming. They'll do some damage in the future. Wheather they'll wreak havoc like the boys of '75 remains to be seen. Great too to see such a huge crowd going to a semi final, they'll be a huge contingent going to Cork.
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Post by sullyschoice on Jun 5, 2018 17:27:11 GMT
The set up for Clare kickouts was interesting. Kerry line very advanced. Covering any possibility of any short option and an awful lot of vocals. This was particularly noticeable in the second half when the crowd went dead. And Booty constantly shouting "work" from the sideline. That made me nearly choke on my coffee Freudian slip😂😂😂😂
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Post by An Bradán on Jun 5, 2018 18:16:12 GMT
So who is Booty 😀😀😀😀😀😀😀
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Post by dc84 on Jun 5, 2018 18:18:30 GMT
Lols i for one dont want to know!!
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Post by givehimaball on Jun 5, 2018 18:27:14 GMT
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Post by cruc8 on Jun 5, 2018 18:33:20 GMT
a few minutes
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Post by Deise Exile on Jun 5, 2018 20:14:53 GMT
Great performance. Away more than I expected. No more chasing after div 2 teams that are punching above their weight and sensing a weakness in the Kingdom. Last year, at times, Clare looked like they could have beaten us. From the start it was obvious that this was different kerry team and plan. When James O D popped over his point around the 25th minute it meant all the 6 forwards had scored from play.There and then a feeling came over me like a warm blanket. It's early days yet but this team is coming. They'll do some damage in the future. Wheather they'll wreak havoc like the boys of '75 remains to be seen. Great too to see such a huge crowd going to a semi final, they'll be a huge contingent going to Cork. We might need that warm blanket come September!!
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Post by dc84 on Jun 5, 2018 21:53:22 GMT
Haha absolute classic weeshie😀😁
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Post by mossie on Jun 5, 2018 22:50:14 GMT
Paul Geaney kicked one point in the first half to conclude a wonderful move, his finish was class , the ball hardly in his hand a milli second when he dropped it on to his foot and in a flash over the bar. It was rapid & natural and free flowing.
I would be optimistic with what we saw, Clare retained their division 2 status this year, It wasn't some division 4 junior team we destroyed. Clare have an excellent midfield too.
someone asked if we have shown our hand too early, I think not. Dublin have regularly blitzed team in Leinster for example.
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