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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2018 22:12:25 GMT
Looking at that back line can we really afford having three players of limited stature in that defence. Overall, once more EF displays his penchant for retaining a certain cohort of players on the panel come what may. I would say 4 of the 6 are of limited stature. Who else should be on the panel?
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Post by greenmen55 on Mar 16, 2018 22:14:41 GMT
Worries about the strength of our back six but on a positive note it's good to see daithi casey getting a deserved starting spot hopefully now he will take his opportunity and grab it with both hands he has done very well with the limited amount of minutes he has been given so far and now it will be interesting to see how he fares out from the start
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Post by An Bradán on Mar 16, 2018 22:54:17 GMT
Can only surmise that the team is picked on the basis of what EF and co. see at training during the week. There is a state of flux in the team and subs from game to game.
I expect Kerry to crawl to a victory but drive us all to distraction doing so.
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Post by kerryexile on Mar 16, 2018 23:14:17 GMT
The stature of the defence would never have occurred to me if Veteran hadn't mentioned it. It's not the dog in the fight, it's the fight in the dog, e.g. Paul Murphy.
There is height at full back and strength at centre back but I will concede that not every dog in that defence has fight in them.
Speaking of fight there has been a number of situations in games where some players were very sluggish. I know there is a new physical fitness regime in place and there is work to be done and having won the first 2 games, survival was secured early. Hopefully it is because the are doing hard work with a view to peaking in July/August.
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Post by Deise Exile on Mar 17, 2018 7:03:05 GMT
Not sure Daithi is good enough for this level. Mike Geaney certainly isnt This isn't a hill I am willing to die on or anything like that, but what is the evidence supporting the view that Casey is not good enough? We need players with pace and scoring forwards. Will Casey drive at defences and score like Kilkenny does for Dublin? If he truly was up to it why hasn't he got game time over last few years. I hope I'm wrong as we need leaders and he is that
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Post by Deise Exile on Mar 17, 2018 7:07:42 GMT
Team for Kildare game. 1 Shane Murphy Dr. Crokes 2 Brian Ó Beaglaoich An Ghaeltacht 3 Jason Foley Ballydonoghue 4 Ronan Shanahan Austin Stacks 5 Paul Murphy Rathmore 6 Peter Crowley Laune Rangers 7 Fionn Fitzgerald (Captain) Dr. Crokes 8 Jack Barry Na Gaeil 9 Barry O’Sullivan Dingle 10 Micheál Burns Dr. Crokes 11 Dáithí Casey Dr. Crokes 12 Kevin McCarthy Kilcummin 13 David Clifford Fossa 14 Paul Geaney Dingle 15 Barry John Keane Kerins O’Rahillys Fir Ionaid: 16 Brian Kelly Killarney Legion 17 Adrian Spillane Templenoe 18 David Moran Kerins O’Rahillys 19 Michael Geaney Dingle 20 Stephen O’Brien Kenmare 21 Matthew Flaherty Dingle 22 Tom O’Sullivan Dingle 23 Mark Griffin St Michaels/Foilmore 24 Johnny Buckley Dr. Crokes 25 Killian Spillane Templenoe 26 Cormac Coffey Kerins O’Rahillys Who is actually going to score. Defence do not have physical presence and have no coherent plan
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Post by dc84 on Mar 17, 2018 13:01:08 GMT
One thing i think we can all agree with is we hope the teams in green give the teams in white a beating today! Cmon Kerry
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Post by Mickmack on Mar 17, 2018 13:45:07 GMT
The selection of McCarthy in the half forward line is interesting. I cant recall him there before.
Nacrocaigh has been making a case for Daithi Casey for some time so i hope he grabs his chance.
After only a few games Sean o Shea looks Kerrys most vital player. He will be missed.
Glad Shane is in goal. He should be kept in goal for 2018 in my opinion.
Is Jack Savage injured
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Post by mitchelsontour on Mar 17, 2018 19:38:16 GMT
Will someone please put a leash on Hassett, he is an embarrassment to the county.
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Post by dc84 on Mar 17, 2018 19:49:07 GMT
Agree on hasset mccarthy lovely footballer
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Post by ddtinexile on Mar 17, 2018 20:41:07 GMT
Our full back got some roasting tonight.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2018 20:54:13 GMT
Our full back got some roasting tonight. Why not name the guy?
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Post by kerryexile on Mar 17, 2018 20:59:59 GMT
Our full back got some roasting tonight. It appears that it was a night of serious learning but that is what the league is for. That is how experience is gained. And 2 points in the bag.
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Post by oldschool on Mar 17, 2018 21:12:23 GMT
Just a few points about tonight's game. Only barely average game. Fionn Fitz. very good. Kerry had poor kick out strategy. D. Clifford intelegent and talented player. How come umpires only see what suits them -----D. Clifford incident. Goldrick made strange decisions. Even though we won I'm not happy about how . It was a poor Kildare team. Is Paul Geaney slightly off form lately? ?? Fierce cold tonight.
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Post by ddtinexile on Mar 17, 2018 21:45:45 GMT
Jason foley got aright roasting tonight.
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Post by kerryscoob on Mar 17, 2018 21:53:52 GMT
Positives Clifford is class Casey did very well, kicked the score of the game Jack Barry can open up defences with his runs but can run out of ideas. McCarthy great 1st half Thankfully Kildare are *e. Cork beaten by Clare Negatives Kick out strategy, we're in serious trouble Burns poor I thought JBK brutal. Foley cleaned out but I blame the sideline for not sorting it early in the game, when the FF on the losing team gets MOTM it tells you how bad it was. We don't play a FF line anymore haven't looked like scoring goals since I don't know when Hassett at it again.. Very disappointing to see we're getting cleaned out in collecting breaking ball. Geaney not firing on all cyclinders.. Still better than most
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Post by greenmen55 on Mar 17, 2018 22:11:26 GMT
Although a win is a win I found the performance tonight to be very average foley got roasted but was isolated a lot of the time and the sideline did nothing to help him.Kickouts were a big problem tonight we really struggled to pick up any breaking ball I thought fionn Fitz and burns were both disappointing.I thought Fitzmaurices substitutions were strange to say the least eg bringing on various defenders for forwards eg griffin for Geaney. There were some positives though another very good performance from Clifford I thought casey done very well and kicked a great score but seemed to run out of steam towards the end which is acceptable jack Barry was also very good with a bit of work at finishing and confidence in front of goal he would be the complete midfielder which is a great asset to the team overall a poor performance but good to come out with a win
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Post by himself on Mar 17, 2018 22:22:02 GMT
Just on the kickouts strategy, I absolve Shane Murphy of any blame. The amount of times he reacted quickly to grab a ball and tee, place them, and look up in preparation for a fast kickouts...only to see kerry players slowly walking out their positions, often with their back to him, was almost unbelievable. He was ready to use opportunities that should have been, but weren't, available tonight. I agree that Jason caught a tartar tonight, but that was a great footballer. Thought micheal Burns and BJ Keane excellent in the first half as well. Not a great game to watch, but solid enough.
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Post by Deise Exile on Mar 17, 2018 23:08:10 GMT
Brian Kelly can feel aggrieved. Shane Murphy no better that Kelly and probably a better shot stopped. I'd say his kick out in mayo semi will prevent him from being no 1. We have to get David Moran in beside Barry ASAP. Kevin McCarthy and Casey, in fairness, played well but Casey won't feature once injured forwards are fit again. Also seeing Mark Griffin tonite makes me think he is a better option at present than Jason Foley who needs more time and bulking up. Cork lost to Clare!!
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Post by southward on Mar 17, 2018 23:34:36 GMT
Jason foley got aright roasting tonight. Strange, I thought Jason was quite good tonight, actually, as was the defence generally. Kildare had some lively forwards out there but our backs always got back goal side at least. For once we weren't opened up and there was a vast improvement in the fouls conceded as well. Fionn made one smashing tackle late on when a goal looked on the cards. Didn't hear the attendance announced, anyone know?. Looked really poor 20 mins before throw-in but seemed to fill up a good bit in the end. Clifford really coming into his own for the seniors now. Great game tonight.
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Post by kerryboy83 on Mar 17, 2018 23:41:46 GMT
Our defence is a big worry. A bus cud drive down through the middle of our defence we are so open. And what’s more frightening is nothing seems to be done about it. David Clifford is some talent. Anyone see what happened off the ball with him? An easy cop out for the officials to produce two yellow cards.
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Post by ataboy on Mar 17, 2018 23:43:35 GMT
Our full back got some roasting tonight. Flynn is an exceptional talent and the potential to be one of the best players in the country on his day and he had one of those nights tonight. Has incredible pace. Foley got no protection though like plenty other games this year.
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Post by timmy on Mar 17, 2018 23:59:41 GMT
Yes Foley did get a roasting tonight. There is no hiding that - but saying that how many times has our full back got roasted over the last few years. Griffin v Cork on Brian Hurley, Marc O’Se v Dublin on Brogan, Enright v Mayo on Moran and tonight Foley v Kildare on Flynn. They are only the few to mention but there have been a few more with them. All of the above put in high scoring performances. Seems to be a common problem where by our full back line gets no protection what so ever.
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Post by greengold35 on Mar 18, 2018 0:09:14 GMT
Our defence is a big worry. A bus cud drive down through the middle of our defence we are so open. And what’s more frightening is nothing seems to be done about it. David Clifford is some talent. Anyone see what happened off the ball with him? An easy cop out for the officials to produce two yellow cards. Clifford gave the full back a dunt as he ran past him and received one in return! Two yellows!
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Post by kerrygold on Mar 18, 2018 0:17:01 GMT
Kerry lucky Kildare weren't up to much tonight. Possibly Kerry's poorest performance in the league and a big drop in performance since the opening two rounds. I just don't get this contempt from Kerry towards the restart. Kerry in reverse at the moment in the NFL.
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Post by greengold35 on Mar 18, 2018 0:34:38 GMT
Our reluctance to play a sweeper is baffling and laughable and not just tonight! Jack O’Connor used O’Seanachain in this role in the 2015 minor campaign protecting his club mate Foley - dropping a player in front of Flynn tonight would have diminished his scoring rate but again no. Hard to watch this idiocy from management.
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Post by peanuts on Mar 18, 2018 0:51:17 GMT
Just on the kickouts strategy, I absolve Shane Murphy of any blame. The amount of times he reacted quickly to grab a ball and tee, place them, and look up in preparation for a fast kickouts...only to see kerry players slowly walking out their positions, often with their back to him, was almost unbelievable. He was ready to use opportunities that should have been, but weren't, available tonight. I agree that Jason caught a tartar tonight, but that was a great footballer. Thought micheal Burns and BJ Keane excellent in the first half as well. Not a great game to watch, but solid enough. Can't agree regarding the kick outs. There were players making themselves open for Murphy in the second half and he ignored them and kicked long.
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Post by thebluepanther on Mar 18, 2018 1:04:58 GMT
Our reluctance to play a sweeper is baffling and laughable and not just tonight! Jack O’Connor used O’Seanachain in this role in the 2015 minor campaign protecting his club mate Foley - dropping a player in front of Flynn tonight would have diminished his scoring rate but again no. Hard to watch this idiocy from management. Sometimes in games players performances can't be legislated for by opposition managers . If he right ball is played in, they are strong enough to win their own ball. Flynn did this tonight. Clifford has shown he is well able to do this. You say drop a player in front of Flynn tonight would of worked. Then that player wouldnt have been a sweeper. I think you are confusing a sweeper with double marking a guy. Dont forget Idiocy won you an All Ireland in 2014.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2018 1:54:52 GMT
It would be better if we stopped making excuses for the poor performance of certain players. foley simply is not ready yet and that roasting has been coming. Also Murphy has been average throughout the league.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2018 7:54:46 GMT
From looking at the tables, we are safe from relegation if Monaghan beat Donegal or Tyrone beat Mayo.
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