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Post by fivenarow on Mar 31, 2018 23:24:17 GMT
Stacks deserved the win, KOR were off the pace at times, the BJK red card when the sides were level & KOR coming back into it combined with the fortunate goal put a bit of gloss on it. It was always going to be a tight enough game being a local derby but on those performances,taking into consideration that it’s early in the year, I doubt the crokes will be creaking in their boots. Ronan Shanahan was the best of the kerry players but like someone else posted what did Tommy Walsh have to do to get a free, he must have been hauled down & pulled & dragged 5 or 6 times & got very little. I still think there’s a place with kerry for Tommy, he’s hard to handle when on song, Star did ok but looked a bit rusty, o Callaghan did well enough on him.
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Apr 1, 2018 0:35:46 GMT
Jack Savage is fecked with a hip injury and realistically needs about 3/4 months off. At the moment he’s just playing but not performing
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Apr 1, 2018 0:42:46 GMT
I thought Tommy was excellent tonight and I’d not be surprised to see him back in the mix with Kerry soon enough- he’s flying recently
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Post by ciarrailar on Apr 1, 2018 1:00:01 GMT
Stacks beat KOR by about 5-not a great game to be honest. Tommy was flying, BJK got sent off, Stacks better in most positions. Ref was atrocious- didn’t know the rules and essentially let Donaghy tell him what to do which in the end was quite embarrassing. Tommy suffered from big man syndrome in this game whereby in order to win a free he had to be almost partially decapitated. He was pulled down running through 3 separate times and the ref gave yellow cards- was that not what the black card was brought in for? KOR went for a short kick out and Donaghy knocked it away- under new rules that’s also a black! Stacks have learned from ardfert- in having 5/6 lads on the sideline who harrange & harass the ref and linesman at every opportunity- any mentor who runs onto the pitch should be sent to the stand I’m actually laughing out loud at this..... are you 6? You’re mouthing that the ref didn’t know the rules but you’ve displayed an absolute lack of any knowledge yourself!! Show me in the rule book where knocking away a kick out is a black card! Lol you can’t make up your own rules and peddle them as gospel! Laughable!
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Apr 1, 2018 9:02:26 GMT
Stacks beat KOR by about 5-not a great game to be honest. Tommy was flying, BJK got sent off, Stacks better in most positions. Ref was atrocious- didn’t know the rules and essentially let Donaghy tell him what to do which in the end was quite embarrassing. Tommy suffered from big man syndrome in this game whereby in order to win a free he had to be almost partially decapitated. He was pulled down running through 3 separate times and the ref gave yellow cards- was that not what the black card was brought in for? KOR went for a short kick out and Donaghy knocked it away- under new rules that’s also a black! Stacks have learned from ardfert- in having 5/6 lads on the sideline who harrange & harass the ref and linesman at every opportunity- any mentor who runs onto the pitch should be sent to the stand I’m actually laughing out loud at this..... are you 6? You’re mouthing that the ref didn’t know the rules but you’ve displayed an absolute lack of any knowledge yourself!! Show me in the rule book where knocking away a kick out is a black card! Lol you can’t make up your own rules and peddle them as gospel! Laughable! Grand I got one rule wrong- I wouldn’t call that an absolute lack of knowledge (knowing what the word absolute means and all).I thought it was a black card and it’s not. On pulling Tommy down constantly throughout the game- I’ll assume you also think that it was laughable that no black cards were handed out for that? What was your opinion on stacks having several mentors on the field consistently? Nah sure don’t address the rest of the topics at hand- good lad
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Post by onlykerry on Apr 1, 2018 9:09:43 GMT
Stacks earned their win by being marginally better in their team work - Rahillys contributed to their loss with the red card and soppy give away goal. Very inept performance by the referee with Star benefitting in particular - clothes lined a Rahillys player and got away with it because Rahillys took the free quickly - left his black card at home when it was blatantly obvious the cynical hauling down of Walsh warranted its use. Ultimately however Rahillys need to look at themselves for their loss.
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Post by taggert on Apr 1, 2018 9:12:18 GMT
When Stacks were 4 2 up in the first half, David Mannix kicked 3 v poor wides under no pressure and Shane Callaghan missed a 1 on 1 goal chance that he should have buried. They also missed 2 other point chances in this period in which they dominated (i.e. the opening 20 mins). Credit to st rd who came back into it but for me with the obvious exception of T Walsh, their big name players never turned up - savage, BJK n coffey. For Stacks, Shanahan, O'Shea, Horan and Star were hugely influential.
I saw mentors from both sides on the pitch. For those citing the lack of protection for T Walsh, welcome to Kieran Donaghy's world.....
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Post by ciarrailar on Apr 1, 2018 12:16:38 GMT
I’m actually laughing out loud at this..... are you 6? You’re mouthing that the ref didn’t know the rules but you’ve displayed an absolute lack of any knowledge yourself!! Show me in the rule book where knocking away a kick out is a black card! Lol you can’t make up your own rules and peddle them as gospel! Laughable! Grand I got one rule wrong- I wouldn’t call that an absolute lack of knowledge (knowing what the word absolute means and all).I thought it was a black card and it’s not. On pulling Tommy down constantly throughout the game- I’ll assume you also think that it was laughable that no black cards were handed out for that? What was your opinion on stacks having several mentors on the field consistently? Nah sure don’t address the rest of the topics at hand- good lad Fair enough I’ll give you that. It’s just annoying when lads state rules as fact on here and they are incorrect. Absolutely, I felt Tommy Walsh was very hard done by last night. He was fouled on several occasions when making runs for the ball. Honestly, I don’t think any of these were black cards unless I missed one. The problem with the mentors is a big issue. To be fair I felt Stacks were ok last night. I didn’t see any real encroachment of note onto the field. What was infinitely worse was the amount of Ardfert ‘officials’ on the line. When you include their subs there must have been 25 there. They had 11 or 12 mentors, water carriers etc. this is mental! What is Stephen Wallace’s role with the team? Surely he shouldn’t be there.
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Apr 1, 2018 12:20:37 GMT
Grand I got one rule wrong- I wouldn’t call that an absolute lack of knowledge (knowing what the word absolute means and all).I thought it was a black card and it’s not. On pulling Tommy down constantly throughout the game- I’ll assume you also think that it was laughable that no black cards were handed out for that? What was your opinion on stacks having several mentors on the field consistently? Nah sure don’t address the rest of the topics at hand- good lad Fair enough I’ll give you that. It’s just annoying when lads state rules as fact on here and they are incorrect. Absolutely, I felt Tommy Walsh was very hard done by last night. He was fouled on several occasions when making runs for the ball. Honestly, I don’t think any of these were black cards unless I missed one. The problem with the mentors is a big issue. To be fair I felt Stacks were ok last night. I didn’t see any real encroachment of note onto the field. What was infinitely worse was the amount of Ardfert ‘officials’ on the line. When you include their subs there must have been 25 there. They had 11 or 12 mentors, water carriers etc. this is mental! What is Stephen Wallace’s role with the team? Surely he shouldn’t be there. Well they are a whole diff kettle of fish! On my match comments- I was a bit wound up after it but i do think the pulling down of Tommy should have warranted a couple of black cards. Donaghy had a big say in the ref's decisions, which worries me
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Post by madforfootball on Apr 1, 2018 12:38:44 GMT
Fair enough I’ll give you that. It’s just annoying when lads state rules as fact on here and they are incorrect. Absolutely, I felt Tommy Walsh was very hard done by last night. He was fouled on several occasions when making runs for the ball. Honestly, I don’t think any of these were black cards unless I missed one. The problem with the mentors is a big issue. To be fair I felt Stacks were ok last night. I didn’t see any real encroachment of note onto the field. What was infinitely worse was the amount of Ardfert ‘officials’ on the line. When you include their subs there must have been 25 there. They had 11 or 12 mentors, water carriers etc. this is mental! What is Stephen Wallace’s role with the team? Surely he shouldn’t be there. Well they are a whole diff kettle of fish! On my match comments- I was a bit wound up after it but i do think the pulling down of Tommy should have warranted a couple of black cards. Donaghy had a big say in the ref's decisions, which worries me I would agree with both of ye on different things do , Star was in the Refs ear most of the day and he definitely influence the ref. Some refs think they have to mind the Kerry lads or in this case listen to them. Out of a rating of 10 I would of gave the ref 6. Did he cost KOR the game? No I don't think so . Tommy got pulled back on more than once but this is a yellow not a black , even do I think he was pulled down in 1st half according to my friend with me but I actually didn't see it.
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Post by onlykerry on Apr 1, 2018 12:41:49 GMT
On the topic of rules - who is and who is not allowed on the sideline? Inter county panels are limited to 26 and specific mentors - are there any equivalent rules at club level. Will it take a serious assault case in the civil courts to kick the GAA into action on this issue?
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Post by greengold35 on Apr 1, 2018 13:46:36 GMT
On the topic of rules - who is and who is not allowed on the sideline? Inter county panels are limited to 26 and specific mentors - are there any equivalent rules at club level. Will it take a serious assault case in the civil courts to kick the GAA into action on this issue? Subs, mentors, physio, doctor are allowed on - the max last night was 10 people outside of subs- that 10 included the bainisteoir, selectors, physio — obviously not being adhered to.
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Post by sullyschoice on Apr 1, 2018 13:59:19 GMT
On the topic of rules - who is and who is not allowed on the sideline? Inter county panels are limited to 26 and specific mentors - are there any equivalent rules at club level. Will it take a serious assault case in the civil courts to kick the GAA into action on this issue? Yes
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Post by A.N. Other on Apr 1, 2018 14:02:28 GMT
Paul Geaney with 2-2 and Matthew flaherty with 1-1 in the first half here. Shane Ryan is a lovely footballer, 3 points from play and 45 in the first half.
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Post by Mickmack on Apr 1, 2018 14:26:32 GMT
On the topic of rules - who is and who is not allowed on the sideline? Inter county panels are limited to 26 and specific mentors - are there any equivalent rules at club level. Will it take a serious assault case in the civil courts to kick the GAA into action on this issue? Subs, mentors, physio, doctor are allowed on - the max last night was 10 people outside of subs- that 10 included the bainisteoir, selectors, physio — obviously not being adhered to. So are you saying 16 including the 6 subs or 10 including the 6 subs. Not clear to me from your post....
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Apr 1, 2018 14:47:35 GMT
On the topic of rules - who is and who is not allowed on the sideline? Inter county panels are limited to 26 and specific mentors - are there any equivalent rules at club level. Will it take a serious assault case in the civil courts to kick the GAA into action on this issue? After the match yesterday I genuinely did, and still do, think that the aforementioned potential scenario might fall out of this game.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Apr 1, 2018 14:53:53 GMT
3-05 for Paul Geaney today.
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Post by greengold35 on Apr 1, 2018 16:46:36 GMT
Subs, mentors, physio, doctor are allowed on - the max last night was 10 people outside of subs- that 10 included the bainisteoir, selectors, physio — obviously not being adhered to. So are you saying 16 including the 6 subs or 10 including the 6 subs. Not clear to me from your post.... All subs + 10 others . Some teams last night had 15 subs togged - that’s 25 then on the side line. The solution is to have the subs in a designated section in the stands.
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Post by Mickmack on Apr 1, 2018 16:54:51 GMT
Thanks for the clarification. So 16 on the line is fine. Are you allowed have more than 6 subs togged out.
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Post by greengold35 on Apr 1, 2018 17:00:36 GMT
Thanks for the clarification. So 16 on the line is fine. Are you allowed have more than 6 subs togged out. The programme will list up to 30 the players - the dugouts will take 15 and the subs are supposed to remain in the dug out. There seems to be no limits to the number of subs togged out - Stacks had 15 subs last night, Rahillys 12 - Dr Crokes had 19 subs togged out in last years county final.
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Post by Mickmack on Apr 1, 2018 17:27:48 GMT
Thanks. So you can legally have 25 as long as the 15 subs stay in the dugout
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Post by greengold35 on Apr 1, 2018 17:38:47 GMT
Thanks. So you can legally have 25 as long as the 15 subs stay in the dugout That’s about the sum of it !
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Post by Mickmack on Apr 1, 2018 18:20:16 GMT
Thanks for the clarification.
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Post by richard00 on Apr 1, 2018 19:33:34 GMT
Who is legions manager
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Post by clarinman on Apr 1, 2018 19:38:26 GMT
James o Sullivan from Dingle.
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Post by richard00 on Apr 1, 2018 19:47:12 GMT
James o Sullivan from Dingle. Who has he managed before
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Post by clarinman on Apr 1, 2018 19:53:08 GMT
James o Sullivan from Dingle. Who has he managed before Don't know. His son Jamie is on legion team. He was on minor all Ireland winning team in 1980.
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Post by An Bradán on Apr 1, 2018 21:28:21 GMT
Regarding the people allowed on the sidelines the number is the secondary matter. The appropriate behaviour is the key. A few clubs seem to have a policy of packing the sidelines with noisy, ill behaved players and mentors who encroach and try to intimidate refs and opposition players. This is clearly a deliberate policy and needs to be dealt with by stronger refs and the county board.
I'll never forget seeing a club final a few years back where the excited coach of one team made the mistake of cutting through the opposition "mob" on his way down the pitch. He ended up in the opposition dugout on his back and got a beating in there and for his troubles a kicking on the way out too. Madness.
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Post by ballhopper34 on Apr 1, 2018 21:52:27 GMT
Remaining fixtures, all games set for 2:30pm with first-named team at home:
GROUP 1
Round 2 on Sunday 8 April
Austin Stacks v An Ghaeltacht Kerins O’Rahilly’s v Dr. Crokes
Round 3 on Sunday 15 April
An Ghaeltacht v Kerins O’Rahilly’s Dr. Crokes v Austin Stacks
GROUP 2
Round 2 on Sunday 8 April
Kenmare Shamrocks v Dingle Killarney Legion v Rathmore
Round 3 on Sunday 15 April
Dingle v Killarney Legion Rathmore v Kenmare Shamrocks
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Post by An Bradán on Apr 2, 2018 12:52:08 GMT
What was BJK sent off for ?
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