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Post by Mickmack on Mar 21, 2018 11:14:50 GMT
This idealistic notion of the April club window is really eating into intercounty game time......................detrimentally! There is merit in scrapping the april window and running things off even quicker. The hurling final would then be on the third sunday of july with the football final on the last sunday of july. All of august to december to run off all club games including the club all irelands
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Post by kerrygold on Mar 21, 2018 14:11:42 GMT
This idealistic notion of the April club window is really eating into intercounty game time......................detrimentally! There is merit in scrapping the april window and running things off even quicker. The hurling final would then be on the third sunday of july with the football final on the last sunday of july. All of august to december to run off all club games including the club all irelands A summer league tied in to the championship would probably give you that. The big problem with finishing that early is that there is no mass appeal and interest in the club games outside of the competing parishes. However a five month intercounty season in total mostly played in the summer would have a lot of merit.
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Post by Mickmack on Mar 21, 2018 16:03:50 GMT
If you take the six best months of the year...april to september, the county scene would have four so it would see reasonable to have august and sept of those six months for clubs
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Post by kerrygold on Mar 21, 2018 17:23:15 GMT
The club Provincials and All-Ireland series run in August/September could be interesting.
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Post by southward on Mar 24, 2018 21:12:34 GMT
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Post by southward on Mar 25, 2018 22:00:51 GMT
Ceist:
Pat Gilroy has now managed Dublin at senior level in both football and hurling. Is this unique?
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Post by dc84 on Mar 26, 2018 6:49:00 GMT
Ceist: Pat Gilroy has now managed Dublin at senior level in both football and hurling. Is this unique? I know it wasnt senior but didnt boylan do the same with meath?
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Post by glengael on Mar 26, 2018 8:45:03 GMT
Strange that similarly to Marc, his 'Croke Park' career ended in such disappointment. Darragh was the only one to get that final bow spot on. Phenomenal service to both clubs for so many years as well as to the county. I doubt we'll ever see that level of contribution from 1 family again. I wish him and them all the best.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Mar 27, 2018 0:05:05 GMT
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Post by kerryboy83 on Mar 27, 2018 0:45:33 GMT
Back in kerry so to help out with the Kerry team training 🤔🤔🤔🤔
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Post by Jigz84 on Mar 27, 2018 8:50:57 GMT
Back in kerry so to help out with the Kerry team training 🤔🤔🤔🤔 More likely a PR exercise for his clothes brand.
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Post by Sons of Pitches on Mar 29, 2018 9:57:40 GMT
Paul Galvin interview
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Post by kerrygold on Mar 29, 2018 10:38:31 GMT
Thanks for posting that link. Very interesting content. It would be interesting to watch PG turning DC into a Brand and changing the whole perception of what up & coming young players could attain at home playing for Kerry rather than being swayed by Oz.
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Post by kerrygold on Mar 30, 2018 11:07:23 GMT
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Post by glengael on Apr 6, 2018 10:03:21 GMT
That fella from Derry is on the Late Late tonight so it might be a good night to do / watch something else.......
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Post by Jigz84 on Apr 6, 2018 10:12:18 GMT
Another Kerry jersey spotted at The Masters yesterday! That's 6 out of the last 7 years.
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Post by kerrygold on Apr 6, 2018 10:22:24 GMT
Another Kerry jersey spotted at The Masters yesterday! That's 6 out of the last 7 years. Time is moving on, the NFL completed and the Masters on this weekend! Summer football is around the corner.
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Post by kerrygold on Apr 7, 2018 13:28:36 GMT
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Post by Mickmack on Apr 7, 2018 18:25:54 GMT
Jackie Tyrrell: Kilkenny’s evolving tactics a potent future template The league has already been a success for Cody’s side fans will demand win over Tipp Fri, Apr 6, 2018, 06:00 Jackie Tyrrell
Watching Kilkenny against Wexford last weekend, I had to laugh to myself at some of the things they were trying.
The tactical shift going on in this team now is brilliant to see – all the short passes, the support lines of running, the different ways they’re coming up with to move the ball up the field. Combine it with all the things Brian Cody demands of you as fundamentals – work-rate, aggression, ruthlessness – and it’s a clear template for success.
They scored a point in the 54th minute that summed up everything about their new approach. Shaun Murphy had just landed a long-range point for Wexford. Eoin Murphy took a short puck-out to Pádraig Walsh on the 20-metre line, who straight away got his head up and bounced a hurl pass to Cillian Buckley on the edge of the D. Two passes and Kilkenny still weren’t at the 45 yet.
Cillian collected and turned to look upfield. Just as he crossed the 45, he flicked a handpass to Conor Fogarty in midfield. Apart from the short-passes, what was really interesting at this point was the fact that as Cillian gave the pass, he had runners either side of him – Pádraig Walsh to his right and Paddy Deegan to his left.
So just to make this clear – from a quick puck-out, Kilkenny were running a designed play where it needed three passes to find their midfielder and in which their full-back and corner-back were making 50-yard runs to either support the ball carrier or be a decoy. Not alone that but Paddy Deegan kept his run going, took the lay-off from Conor in midfield and played a hurl pass onto Wally Walsh – and still kept running.
Wally miscontrolled the ball and a ruck followed but when the ball squirted out to the left, it was Paddy who was there to get onto the break. He was on the Wexford 45 by this stage, just out by the sideline but he didn’t panic at being up there, as former Kilkenny corner-backs might have (and did!).
Instead, he turned back inside before threading a lovely pass sideways through four Wexford players to find the run of Mossy Keoghan. Mossy took the pass at pace, ran at the heart of the Wexford defence, fooled them with a dummy handpass before batting the ball over the bar.
In the end, it was a simple score. But the movement that made it, the skill level and trust required to take the ball the length of the pitch like that with decoy runners and options everywhere, none of it has happened by accident. That’s something Kilkenny have obviously made their mind up about over the winter. They have clearly drilled it and practiced it over and over again. As I say, it’s brilliant to see.
What I was laughing at was trying to imagine what would have happened even just four years ago if we tried that. JJ Delaney would have freaked out if he’d seen me running from corner back to support a half-forward. Jackieeeeeee! Go back a few years further and it would have been even more unlikely. No word of a lie – Michael Kavanagh always turned his back on puck-outs so there wouldn’t be a hope of him getting a short one.
Clear shift So there has been a clear shift in how they play and how they distribute the ball and how they react to that distribution. Before, you might as a corner-back make a five- or 10-yard run off the ball just to keep the forward honest. But now you have situations where other defenders apart from the ball-carrier are making 20- or 30-yard dashes in different directions. Some are going towards the ball, some are going away from it.
But the big thing is that there’s constant movement. Before, the thinking would have been, “Lads, if this thing breaks down, we’re left wide open”. But that’s gone. You can see that these lads have been practicing this through the winter just by how confidently they’re making these runs. You can’t half-do this. You have to commit to it.
The whole idea is that it moves the opposition around and gives their sweeper more to think about. If Cillian Buckley has options left and right and straight in front, then he can essentially do four things with the ball – either move it to one of his three options or play it himself.
Playing against Wexford, that means Shaun Murphy has to be alive to four different possibilities. He can’t just sit in the pocket and tidy up the breaks from puck-outs. He doesn’t get the armchair ride Kilkenny gave him last summer in Wexford Park. He has to be constantly on the move, ready to go to wherever the danger is.
But because the ball isn’t just being played in long, the sweeper now has less time to react. For Mossy Keoghan’s point that I mentioned above, Murphy was perfectly in position when Paddy Deegan picked up the ball from the ruck but all it took was an off-the-ball run by Richie Leahy to take him out of the middle. Once Deegan turned back inside and for Keoghan, there was a chasm right down the middle of the Wexford defence.
I would imagine against Tipp on Sunday, Kilkenny will be happy to play 15-on-15 if that’s how it turns out. But they needed to come up with a way of playing against teams with sweepers and it looks to me like they decided at a certain point either over the winter or midway through the league to accept that sweeper systems weren’t going anywhere and they’d have to use their hurling IQ to get around it.
This would be driven by management. Obviously, Brian’s instinct would be to play conventional but he’s realistic too. He will know that this system is here to stay and that Kilkenny’s two defeats last summer came against teams who used it. You can’t just keep saying we’ll play our own way. Just arriving down to Wexford Park and not making allowances for what the other team are good at isn’t going to get it done. If this is what other teams want to play, then come up with a proper plan to combat it.
It looked to me that when they were playing against teams with sweepers, they were happy to just stumble upon whoever was going to be the free man. It usually turned out to be Paul Murphy but some days it was Cillian Buckley and some days it was Conor Fogarty. Or it changed from man to man within games even.
This is a clear shift away from that. It looks like they’ve decided that 90 per cent of the time, Cillian is going to be the free man and so he is going to be the fulcrum. Cillian is one of the best in the game at playing that role – he does it brilliantly with Dicksboro and they won a county title with him playing it last year.
Slow start His short- to medium-distance passing is excellent and his positional awareness is spot on. He’s very disciplined at it too, which is essential. He won’t try anything too out of the ordinary, he will just knit everything together in there. All the other players know their role within that system now and when Cillian gets the ball, there are supporting runs everywhere, options, defenders creating space, everyone on the move.
After a slow start, it has been a really good league for Kilkenny. The younger guys have been a huge plus so far. The redeployment of Paddy Deegan to corner-back has worked very well. Enda Morrissey and Conor Delaney were both disciplined and smart against Wexford, taking the catch option away from Jack O’Connor and Lee Chin. Richie Leahy has added dynamic runs and scores from midfield.
Keoghan is my favourite find. He’s a very underrated player, massive energy levels and work-rate, abrasive in the tackle, high-octane and a real Brian Cody player. Unselfish, hard-working, a ball-hunter sometimes deep in his own half. His body language sometimes gives the impression that he is tired and jaded but don’t be fooled. He made up a 30-yard gap to hunt down Diarmuid O’Keeffe last week and the ball ended up going wide. Cody would be all over that kind of thing.
All in all, they are beginning to develop a ruthless streak. When they got on top in the first half, they replicated the on-field dominance on the scoreboard – hitting 1-11 without reply and they had two more good goal chances. I feel they have landed on the correct mix and focus on tactics, systems, shape, puck-out strategy mixed with serious work rate and the execution of simple skills. Not a bad formula – but then again Brian is a retired teacher.
They’ll need every bit of it this Sunday. Don’t be thinking this is just a league final. Tipperary are coming to Nowlan Park – I can guarantee that all week every Kilkenny player would have run into someone who’d let them know that defeat is not an option. They might have got the odd punch on the shoulder to remind them.
I used to laugh that sort of thing off but I’d walk away and the depth of feeling would stay with me. Jesus, I better be right for Sunday or I could be lynched by my own crowd here if we don’t win – that kind of thing. Players knew exactly where we stood when this game came along, no matter what the tournament was or time of the year or who we had or hadn’t. If this was a game of snap between the two teams, you’d be expected to spill blood trying to win it or the crowd would let you know all about it.
In the last six league knock-out games between the teams, Tipperary have only won once. In the last 10 championship meetings, Tipp have only won twice. So that’s three wins in the past 16 big games. They need to get one over the old enemy in their back yard for their own mental strength. They can’t be letting this sort of thing grow and fester.
I’d actually argue that Kilkenny don’t need it as much. They’ve had a good league, come up with a new style of play to use when needed, they’ve come up with potentially another half a dozen players and they still have Richie Hogan, Paul Murphy and Colin Fennelly to return fully to the panel. I’d say that’s not a bad campaign at all, regardless of what happens on Sunday.
Just don’t tell the Kilkenny fans that they don’t need the win.
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Post by Mickmack on Apr 7, 2018 18:28:34 GMT
Jackie sets the scene nicely there for Tipp v KK tomorrow
Whether Tipp have the stomach for battle will be interesting
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Post by deckyk on Apr 8, 2018 9:56:53 GMT
Watched the interview. Heard he was going to be on and thats the reason I sat down and watched the late late for once. Always enjoy Brollys views and general chat.
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Post by Mickmack on Apr 8, 2018 10:39:12 GMT
Copper Face Jacks: The Musical is coming to Dublin
Updated / Wednesday, 28 Feb 2018 20:36 0
Ireland’s most notorious club Copper Face Jacks is about to hit the stage in the shape of a new musical from the makers of hit puppet comedy ANGLO and the man behind professional southsider Ross O’Carroll Kelly.
Copper Face Jacks: The Musical is dubbed "Moulin Rouge...with slow sets" and it opens in Dublin’s Olympia Theatre this July in an all-singing, all-dancing, all-drinking, all-snogging celebration of the Harcourt Street club that has entered popular myth over the years.
You'll laugh, you'll cry, you'll lose your mobile
The action centres on a girl from Kerry and a boy from Dublin who fall for each other - and probably fall over - amid the glamorous fleshpots of the place that has been called "a culchie embassy" in the capital city.
Coppers has become the place to go for three generations of Irish night clubbers, regardless of their backgrounds or team colours.
"Once you hear the name Copper Face Jacks: The Musical it’s impossible not to want to make it happen." - Paul Howard
Copper Face Jacks: The Musical is written by Ross O’Carroll Kelly creator Paul Howard and "is a love story set on the eve of a Dublin Kerry All Ireland Final, when a sweet Kerry girl, who’s moved to the big smoke for her dream job in The VHI, ends up falling head over her flat-shoes with a true blue Dublin team member."
Speaking about the show, Howard said, "Once you hear the name Copper Face Jacks: The Musical it’s impossible not to want to make it happen.
"We’ve been talking about it for a few years now so it’s brilliant to think in just a few months it will be up and running. I hope we can do this very special venue justice...whilst I also secretly dream of a day when this work is on the Leaving Certificate".
Paul Howard The new show is the second in Paul Howard’s trilogy of puppet based musicals, with his third "Dermot Bannon: The Opera" due to open in a soon to be built Bannon designed glass box extension on The Abbey Theatre sometime in 2023 (that last bit is possibly a joke).
Copper Face Jacks: The Musical runs at the Olympia Theatre, Dublin from July 5 and tickets are priced €28 plus booking fee. Tickets go on sale this Friday, March 2 from Ticketmaster.ie.
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Post by kerrygold on Apr 8, 2018 10:59:30 GMT
Watched the interview. Heard he was going to be on and thats the reason I sat down and watched the late late for once. Always enjoy Brollys views and general chat. He is generally box office when he leaves out certain agenda about football and some counties in particular.
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Post by kerrygold on Apr 8, 2018 11:15:44 GMT
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Post by Mickmack on Apr 8, 2018 12:45:14 GMT
In my view, the best indicator of a team in decline is when they start winning games through heroic fight backs. Kerry in 1986 final is an example. Meath did a few when in decline most notable v Westmeath. KK had a few great comebacks there a few years ago. So I will be waiting with interest to see if the the heroic fightback stage happens with the Dubs.
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Post by Mickmack on Apr 8, 2018 16:06:51 GMT
Jackie sets the scene nicely there for Tipp v KK tomorrow Whether Tipp have the stomach for battle will be interesting Very even first half. In the second half KK with the ferocity of old and won pulling away. Tipp had a similar experience in the 2017 league final. KK have unearthed a good few players and didn't depend on TJ as much as in recent years even though he got MOTM.
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Post by kerrygold on Apr 8, 2018 18:07:14 GMT
Have Tipp allowed a new emerging monster get an oxygen fix today. Tipp have been disappointing v KK more often than not in recent times.
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Post by kerrygold on Apr 8, 2018 18:46:43 GMT
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Post by veteran on Apr 8, 2018 19:37:27 GMT
Kilkenny haven't gone away you know! A lot of unfamiliar names who maybe lesser hurlers than their immediate predecessors but play with the same relentless ferocity. Tipperary looked tame by comparison. There was a time when it was Tipperary who were the ferocious predators and Kilkenny the neat, skillful haulers. Mr. Cody has turned that appraisal on its head.
I was pleased to see the referee pull players up for over carrying. I hope that rule is applied stringently during the summer because it has become a blight on the game.
Scoring from a line ball has become the norm now. That and the fact that the ball travels so far in general play makes one wonder should the ball be made a little heavier.
The small screen showing replays is a great innovation, allowing us to continue to see the live action. Dare one hope that RTE follows suit.
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Post by Mickmack on Apr 8, 2018 20:13:00 GMT
Yeah the small screen on the left hand corner for replays is a great idea. TG4 continue deliver. Their documentary/film on the maamtrasna murders, back in 1880 or so, shown during the week was a marvelous effort although it was very sad and disconcerting to watch.
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