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Post by keane on Jun 17, 2018 13:11:11 GMT
I wonder how many of the 1200 who were there last night are like me and have decided to give Austin Stack Park a miss next Friday night for what will be an even bigger mismatch. Jack will have to be happy with that but Kerry will essentially being going in cold to the Cork game. Outside of what Veteran spoke of, the main talking point for me was the tactic to disrupt the Limerick kick out that worked a treat. It was also a highly embarrassing night for the Kerrymen on the Limerick sideline. I was shocked at how naïve they were. What was the tactic?
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Post by onlykerry on Jun 18, 2018 9:03:12 GMT
Outside Munster - Mayo are connaught champions for 2018. Dublin are steaming through the round robin phase in Leinster and Ulster is in turmoil with 10 Armagh players suspended for the final against Derry after the melee at the end of their Tyrone semi final.
Winners of Connaught face winner of Ulster with Munster victors down to face Leinster champions on w/e 14-15/July
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Post by dc84 on Jun 18, 2018 11:59:40 GMT
Thats the weekend of the super 8s? If kerry win the u20s in munster and dublin win leinster bit awkward re scheduling
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Post by mossie on Jun 19, 2018 22:39:46 GMT
Kerry 1-30 Limerick 0-5 HT 1-17 0-3 Not unlike the seniors against Clare, this was an evening stroll on Ballybunion strand for our u20s. Similarly, not unlike the seniors we are still in the dark as to the merit of this team because Limerick were as impoverished as Clare was a couple of weeks ago. However, we must commend the team and management for excelling at the chore they were set last evening. This was as comprehensive a performance as one could reasonably expect from any team. Heads up, quick, smart ball to moving, sophisticated forwards, man taken on or a lay off to on coming colleague and the inevitable score ensued. Points kicked from various angles and distances with the rhythm of a metronome. Thirty one scores in all. That is an average of a score every two minutes. Fantasy land. The rare time that Limerick got their hands on the ball and moved it ponderously forward their frail foray was quickly snuffed out by a defence with no apparent weakness on the night. In between the defence and attack Mark Ryan and Diarmuid O'Connor were the masters of midfield, in spite of the efforts of a game Rob Childs, either fielding securely or breaking down cleverly to a voracious half forward line. After about fifteen minutes Kerry were approximately ten points in profit and one could have turned the car towards the Abbeyfeale direction at that stage. Seventeen up at half time. The Kerry goal was stroked home by David Shaw. Kerry were a little less precise in the second half , kicking some wides but still managed to score a further thirteen points while conceding a paltry two. It is no exaggeration to say that every Kerry player dominated his direct opponent, some more than others. In the back line Stefan Okunbar and Daniel O'Brien were probably the most conspicuous but one could make a case for any one of the defenders for that accolade. I was particularly taken by Stefan. This rangy, loose limbed black man was full of agility and athleticism. If Jason doesn't make it at full back then this man would easily slot in there in due course. If Jason does make it at full back, as I expect him to, then I suspect Stefan could fill a variety of positions. Either way, unless I am greatly mistaken, Stefan could have a fruitful future. All the forwards scored from play with the exception of Dara Moynihan. Fiachra Clifford got four, Cormac Linnane got three, Donal O'Sullivan, surely a future Kerry senior, got four, Bryan Sweeney got four and David Shaw got 1-3. Even sub Brian Friel came on and got three. As I said Dara Moynihan may not have scored but he is one sturdy, pacy, determined devil. The prototype of the modern wing forward I suppose. There you have it as I saw it but do not forget the bankruptcy of the opposition. Next up Waterford I believe. Another beach walking exercise I imagine. Donal O'Sullivan is a super prospect, if I am not mistaken he is still minor at club level
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Post by mossie on Jun 19, 2018 22:41:01 GMT
Southward summed the game up perfectly. Kerry forwards were able to pick scores at will under no great Limerick pressure when kicking. Graham O Sullivan at center back looked very assured despite the limitations of the opposition while Fiachra Clifford kicked the pick of Kerry’s points. was Fiachra is the thick of the all Ireland minor wins? don't recall him been so, if he a bolter post minor?
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Post by greengold35 on Jun 20, 2018 6:26:46 GMT
Southward summed the game up perfectly. Kerry forwards were able to pick scores at will under no great Limerick pressure when kicking. Graham O Sullivan at center back looked very assured despite the limitations of the opposition while Fiachra Clifford kicked the pick of Kerry’s points. was Fiachra is the thick of the all Ireland minor wins? don't recall him been so, if he a bolter post minor? He was on last years minor team in all games.
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Post by buck02 on Jun 20, 2018 6:34:50 GMT
Southward summed the game up perfectly. Kerry forwards were able to pick scores at will under no great Limerick pressure when kicking. Graham O Sullivan at center back looked very assured despite the limitations of the opposition while Fiachra Clifford kicked the pick of Kerry’s points. was Fiachra is the thick of the all Ireland minor wins? don't recall him been so, if he a bolter post minor? Fiachra Clifford scored two goals and a couple of points in the final last year didn’t he?
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Post by keane on Jun 20, 2018 9:26:10 GMT
Can't remember what he got in the final but played well in all the games I can remember.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jun 20, 2018 9:55:05 GMT
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Post by glengael on Jun 21, 2018 9:02:29 GMT
What time is the match tomorrow night?
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Post by onlykerry on Jun 21, 2018 9:54:47 GMT
What time is the match tomorrow night? 7.30pm I believe
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Post by fealeside on Jun 21, 2018 15:12:54 GMT
The Kerry U20 Team to play Waterford in the Munster Semi Final tomorrow night at 7.30pm in Austin Stacks Park is as follows
1 Brian Lonergan, Ballymacelligott
2 David Naughton, Dr. Crokes
3 Stefan Okunbor, Na Gaeil
4 Micheál Reidy, Ballymacelligott
5 Cian Gammell, Killarney Legion
6 Mike Breen, Beaufort
7 Daniel O’Brien, Glenflesk
8 Mark Ryan, Rathmore
9 Diarmuid O'Connor, Na Gaeil
10 Fiachra Clifford, Laune Rangers
11 Cormac Linnane, Beale
12 Dara Moynihan, Spa, Killarney
13 Donal O’Sullivan, Kilgarvan (Captain)
14 Bryan Sweeney, Listowel Emmets
15 David Shaw, Dr. Crokes
FIR IONAID
16 Deividas Uosis Dingle
17 Patrick Warren, Gneeveguilla
18 Brian Friel, Rathmore
19 Micheal Foley, Ballydonoghue
20 Eddie Horan, Scartaglen
21 Sean O’Leary, Kilcummin
22 Michael Potts, Dr. Crokes
23 Ciarán Kennedy, Beaufort
24 Kieran Dwyer, St. Pat's Blennerville
Bainistíocht:
Bainisteoir: Jack O’Connor (Dromid Pearses)
Roghnoirí: Eamon Whelan (St Senans), Micheál O’Shea (Castlegregory), John Crowley (Glenflesk)
Treanálaí: Alan O’Sullivan (Kerins O’Rahillys) and Arthur Fitzgerald (Firies).
ADDITIONAL PANEL MEMBERS
Graham O'Sullivan, Piarsaigh na Dromoda
Chris O’Donoghue, Glenflesk
Niall Collins, Listowel Emmets
Danny Hickey, Castleisland Desmonds
Caolim Teahan, Glenbeigh-Glencar
Peter Paul Sauerland, An Ghaeltacht
Seán Horan, Scartaglen
Peter McCarthy, Killarney Legion
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Post by Attacking Wing Back on Jun 22, 2018 8:32:35 GMT
Any reasoning behind the changing of goal keeper? Injury or rotation as they expect to beat waterford handy enough?
When was the last time two Ballymac men started an U20/U21 championship game? I know the Galvin twins did it at minor but not U21 i think.
Do people think Stefan Okunbor could be an contender for full back with the seniors in a few years. Always saw him as a midfielder underage.
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Jun 22, 2018 9:21:02 GMT
Any reasoning behind the changing of goal keeper? Injury or rotation as they expect to beat waterford handy enough? When was the last time two Ballymac men started an U20/U21 championship game? I know the Galvin twins did it at minor but not U21 i think. Do people think Stefan Okunbor could be an contender for full back with the seniors in a few years. Always saw him as a midfielder underage. Stefan Okunbor was a midfielder underage but I think he was lacking a bit of skill for midfield. He seems to have reinvented himself as a full back which would seem a better position for his talents. I haven't seen much of him but I heard he did a great man-marking job on David Clifford for Na Gaeil in the junior premier? Also is Graham O'Sullivan injured. He started centre back against Limerick but isn't even on the bench for this one.
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Jun 22, 2018 10:18:01 GMT
Any reasoning behind the changing of goal keeper? Injury or rotation as they expect to beat waterford handy enough? When was the last time two Ballymac men started an U20/U21 championship game? I know the Galvin twins did it at minor but not U21 i think. Do people think Stefan Okunbor could be an contender for full back with the seniors in a few years. Always saw him as a midfielder underage. Stefan Okunbor was a midfielder underage but I think he was lacking a bit of skill for midfield. He seems to have reinvented himself as a full back which would seem a better position for his talents. I haven't seen much of him but I heard he did a great man-marking job on David Clifford for Na Gaeil in the junior premier? Also is Graham O'Sullivan injured. He started centre back against Limerick but isn't even on the bench for this one. I would go along with your assessment but will have to caveat it- I havent seen the lad play in about 18 months. When I saw him playing midfield- he seemed to be a good reader of the game. good athlete and had a good mentality but maybe lacked the footballing skills for midfield but full back may well suit him and we could do with more coming through in this position. On the team below, the one to watch is surely Diarmuid O Connor as the lad is a really top talent. I liked the look of Shaw when he was a minor but havent seen him play since so maybe someone from Crokes can update on his progress.
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Post by buck02 on Jun 22, 2018 11:27:15 GMT
Stefan Okunbor was a midfielder underage but I think he was lacking a bit of skill for midfield. He seems to have reinvented himself as a full back which would seem a better position for his talents. I haven't seen much of him but I heard he did a great man-marking job on David Clifford for Na Gaeil in the junior premier? Also is Graham O'Sullivan injured. He started centre back against Limerick but isn't even on the bench for this one. I would go along with your assessment but will have to caveat it- I havent seen the lad play in about 18 months. When I saw him playing midfield- he seemed to be a good reader of the game. good athlete and had a good mentality but maybe lacked the footballing skills for midfield but full back may well suit him and we could do with more coming through in this position. On the team below, the one to watch is surely Diarmuid O Connor as the lad is a really top talent. I liked the look of Shaw when he was a minor but havent seen him play since so maybe someone from Crokes can update on his progress. I've seen him play 3 times full back this year and he has all the attributes to make it in the next 2 or 3 years IMO. Ironically it was when Na Gaeil had to move him to midfield in the Junior Final after Ronan Murphy started winning the battle with Jack Barry that they conceded a number of soft goals.
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Jun 22, 2018 11:43:05 GMT
I would go along with your assessment but will have to caveat it- I havent seen the lad play in about 18 months. When I saw him playing midfield- he seemed to be a good reader of the game. good athlete and had a good mentality but maybe lacked the footballing skills for midfield but full back may well suit him and we could do with more coming through in this position. On the team below, the one to watch is surely Diarmuid O Connor as the lad is a really top talent. I liked the look of Shaw when he was a minor but havent seen him play since so maybe someone from Crokes can update on his progress. I've seen him play 3 times full back this year and he has all the attributes to make it in the next 2 or 3 years IMO. Ironically it was when Na Gaeil had to move him to midfield in the Junior Final after Ronan Murphy started winning the battle with Jack Barry that they conceded a number of soft goals. On that- Ronan Murphy is a decent footballer but has been inconsistent enough over the last few years. He had a good junior final but, by all accounts, got cleaned out in the semi against Churchill. By the way- are you saying ironically because he was moved to midfield? I'm confused- as I was saying that he prob has the attributes to be a good full back
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Post by buck02 on Jun 22, 2018 11:56:46 GMT
Yeah I would always have seen Stefan play at midfield when he was younger and wouldnt have thought of him as a full back. But what I have seen of him this year I think he could make it.
I said it was ironic that when Na Gaeil moved him to what would be considered his more natural position in midfield that Beaufort got the goals due to mistakes in their full back line.
Also, I believe Ronan Murphy will be midfield for the Kerry Juniors next Wednesday.
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Post by fealeside on Jun 22, 2018 12:06:08 GMT
Any reasoning behind the changing of goal keeper? Injury or rotation as they expect to beat waterford handy enough? When was the last time two Ballymac men started an U20/U21 championship game? I know the Galvin twins did it at minor but not U21 i think. Do people think Stefan Okunbor could be an contender for full back with the seniors in a few years. Always saw him as a midfielder underage. I've seen Stefan play 3 times this year and I have been hugely impressed each time. He is a huge man and is extremely athletic. He has plenty of skill and is a great reader of the game but his strength is something else. On two of the occasions I have seen him play he was marking two players on this panel (1 of whom is starting) and didnt give either of them a kick. He could well get a Senior call up next year imo.
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Post by greengold35 on Jun 22, 2018 13:37:31 GMT
Any reasoning behind the changing of goal keeper? Injury or rotation as they expect to beat waterford handy enough? When was the last time two Ballymac men started an U20/U21 championship game? I know the Galvin twins did it at minor but not U21 i think. Do people think Stefan Okunbor could be an contender for full back with the seniors in a few years. Always saw him as a midfielder underage. Stefan Okunbor was a midfielder underage but I think he was lacking a bit of skill for midfield. He seems to have reinvented himself as a full back which would seem a better position for his talents. I haven't seen much of him but I heard he did a great man-marking job on David Clifford for Na Gaeil in the junior premier? Also is Graham O'Sullivan injured. He started centre back against Limerick but isn't even on the bench for this one. Okunbar is definitely a senior prospect for defence - very strong and athletic, imposing presence - has improved very much from his minor days. Graham O’Sullivan is carrying a knock - reckon he is Jack’s first choice Centre back.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2018 14:44:07 GMT
They don't lose anything by putting Gammell in there. He's a good player. Should win this easy.
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Post by greengold35 on Jun 22, 2018 20:19:03 GMT
Nothing learned by Jack & Co from tonight's game - a facile win, similar to the previous game - one way traffic all through, Waterford totally out of their depth, had 4 shots on goal all night. No point in assessing this one, final score says it all : Kerry 3-22, Waterford 0-01.
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Post by southward on Jun 22, 2018 21:11:33 GMT
Nothing learned by Jack & Co from tonight's game - a facile win, similar to the previous game - one way traffic all through, Waterford totally out of their depth, had 4 shots on goal all night. No point in assessing this one, final score says it all : Kerry 3-22, Waterford 0-01. That's about the size of it alright. Biggest cheer of the night came for Waterford's point in the 44th minute. And a fine point it was too. Remarkably, and with the exception of two earlier long-range frees, it was their first chance of any description. Tells you all you need to know, really. Enjoyable enough all the same, Kerry playing some lovely football on a beautiful evening in ASP. Jack has them drilled to the last. Roll on next Friday. Re earlier posts on Okunbar - yes, he looks a right job for full-back. Great presence and athleticism. Made loads of disposessions tonight. The attendance, btw, was given as a somewhat eerie 666. Didn't look that many, mind you.
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Post by veteran on Jun 22, 2018 21:36:50 GMT
Agree with Southward and Greengold 35. Two "walkovers " in consecutive weeks is too much to bear. I cannot recall ever seeing an intercounty so devoid of any attacking threat as Waterford were tonight . They made reasonable efforts in defence and midfield but they did have one hint of a threat up front. The proof of the pudding is the recording of one point . Not even a pointed free to show for their exertions, such as they were. Scarcely even a wide , so seldom were they in a scoring area.
Similar to last week , every Kerry player and indeed the subs played with distinction. Too easy. Of course,it maybe that this is an exceptional team. We will find out next Friday evening.
The goals were scored by Donal O'Sullivan, sub Ciaran Kennedy and David Shaw from a penalty.
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Post by An Bradán on Jun 23, 2018 9:56:31 GMT
A (nearly literally) pointless exercise for Waterford. At least Kerry get to progress.
Like a bad u12 result from 30 years ago.
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Post by Mickmack on Jun 23, 2018 10:09:50 GMT
A (nearly literally) pointless exercise for Waterford. At least Kerry get to progress. Like a bad u12 result from 30 years ago. What more do people expect when Kerry are playing football against hurling mad counties.
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Post by glengael on Jun 23, 2018 10:30:24 GMT
We will find out a lot next Friday alright. Cork have been producing good teams and losing out under the Minor/u17 'system'. They will have right cut off this.
Donal O'Sullivan looks a great prospect, a natural footballer.
I could find only 1 player from North of Tralee on the panel. I know there's already a thread on this but that is alarming.
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Post by southward on Jun 23, 2018 12:50:13 GMT
We will find out a lot next Friday alright. Cork have been producing good teams and losing out under the Minor/u17 'system'. They will have right cut off this. Donal O'Sullivan looks a great prospect, a natural footballer. I could find only 1 player from North of Tralee on the panel. I know there's already a thread on this but that is alarming. Mitch Foley (Ballydonoghue), Cormac Linnane (Beale), Bryan Sweeney (Listowel). Niall Collins of Emmets is an additional panel member.
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Post by glengael on Jun 24, 2018 11:32:43 GMT
We will find out a lot next Friday alright. Cork have been producing good teams and losing out under the Minor/u17 'system'. They will have right cut off this. Donal O'Sullivan looks a great prospect, a natural footballer. I could find only 1 player from North of Tralee on the panel. I know there's already a thread on this but that is alarming. Mitch Foley (Ballydonoghue), Cormac Linnane (Beale), Bryan Sweeney (Listowel). Niall Collins of Emmets is an additional panel member. Thanks for that, I should have read it more carefully, Specsavers on my list before Friday
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Post by An Bradán on Jun 24, 2018 20:59:42 GMT
A (nearly literally) pointless exercise for Waterford. At least Kerry get to progress. Like a bad u12 result from 30 years ago. What more do people expect when Kerry are playing football against hurling mad counties. Fair enough but here in football mad Kerry we have only 8 senior hurling clubs yet manage to be somewhat competitive albeit often at B level.
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