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Post by Mickmack on Jul 10, 2018 10:26:13 GMT
Kerry have it all to do in this one from what I've seen so far from both sides. Kildare are very strong around the middle and in the full-forward line, completely blew Dublin out of it physically. Barry oMahony is playing CHF in the curtain raiser so maybe Jack can spring him if things are going well around the middle!
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Post by homerj on Jul 11, 2018 11:21:56 GMT
Kerry have it all to do in this one from what I've seen so far from both sides. Kildare are very strong around the middle and in the full-forward line, completely blew Dublin out of it physically. Barry oMahony is playing CHF in the curtain raiser so maybe Jack can spring him if things are going well around the middle! what is the game before?
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Post by Jigz84 on Jul 11, 2018 11:26:58 GMT
Barry oMahony is playing CHF in the curtain raiser so maybe Jack can spring him if things are going well around the middle! what is the game before? U21 B Hurling Semi-Final also v Kildare.
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Post by jackiel on Jul 11, 2018 15:13:13 GMT
TG4 showing this, fair play to them, their coverage of the underage and lesser competitions is fantastic.
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Post by sullyschoice on Jul 11, 2018 15:15:58 GMT
The U20 final is part of a triple header on 4th August in Croke Park you will be delighted to hear Jackie.
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Post by buck02 on Jul 11, 2018 15:31:33 GMT
The U20 final is part of a triple header on 4th August in Croke Park you will be delighted to hear Jackie. Which means if Kerry get there, surely the seniors will be playing on Sunday 5th August in Killarney against Kildare.
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Post by jackiel on Jul 11, 2018 16:17:26 GMT
The U20 final is part of a triple header on 4th August in Croke Park you will be delighted to hear Jackie. Feck it anyway, I'll miss it cos I'm going down for Seniors match. Having said that I'm not fond of the oul triple headers.
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Post by kerrygold on Jul 11, 2018 16:19:11 GMT
Hopefully we get to the final!
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Post by jackiel on Jul 11, 2018 16:19:20 GMT
The U20 final is part of a triple header on 4th August in Croke Park you will be delighted to hear Jackie. Which means if Kerry get there, surely the seniors will be playing on Sunday 5th August in Killarney against Kildare. unfortunately not Buck, Sat evening for Senior match.
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Post by buck02 on Jul 11, 2018 16:54:49 GMT
Which means if Kerry get there, surely the seniors will be playing on Sunday 5th August in Killarney against Kildare. unfortunately not Buck, Sat evening for Senior match. Oh FFS. If we get to the U20 final the Saturday evening game for the seniors is going to cause some sh1t storm
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Post by greengold35 on Jul 11, 2018 17:37:54 GMT
unfortunately not Buck, Sat evening for Senior match. Oh FFS. If we get to the U20 final the Saturday evening game for the seniors is going to cause some sh1t storm I would think that if we make the final, there is no way it can be played the same day as we play Kildare - no right thinking person would go for that. We don’t often seem to challenge fixtures but this is one that would not stand up. Kerry/Mayo in Limerick on the 5th, Kerry/Derry in Mullingar in the 5th.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2018 18:41:41 GMT
Exactly, the u21 game would have to be changed if we end up in that scenario.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Jul 12, 2018 17:00:12 GMT
Just as new crop pressurise veteran seniors we have u20's hot on their tails - now what do you think of that Joe Brolly? Stefan Okunbor is a name that everyone will get their mouths around, he has it all, truly amazing, personified 'cool calm and collected', and a brute of a man already. Out of interest where are his family from originally? Maybe they his home parish might be the 33rd county? He's from the Na Gaeil club. I was referring to his ethnicity, natured v nurtured?, exploring the history of sports there, historometry it is called Tomás, a bit like our own Currow Corner boys nurtured by the egg. Now I never got game-time myself in Croker, nor at any level I would brag too much about, but in my opinion he has the makings of a true great FB, maybe an all-time great? He has the cut of a fella who could redefine the position, like Cluxton did with No 1. Dependability is his middle name and isn't that what FB is all about, last line of defense, prevents a goalie getting exposed. Did the Aussies not like him or what?
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Jul 12, 2018 17:43:32 GMT
He's from the Na Gaeil club. I was referring to his ethnicity, natured v nurtured?, exploring the history of sports there, historometry it is called Tomás, a bit like our own Currow Corner boys nurtured by the egg. Now I never got game-time myself in Croker, nor at any level I would brag too much about, but in my opinion he has the makings of a true great FB, maybe an all-time great? He has the cut of a fella who could redefine the position, like Cluxton did with No 1. Dependability is his middle name and isn't that what FB is all about, last line of defense, prevents a goalie getting exposed. Did the Aussies not like him or what? You are absolutely cracked!!
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Post by kerrygold on Jul 12, 2018 17:44:18 GMT
Stunned Kennelly didn't bring this guy to Oz at the time.
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Jul 12, 2018 18:20:03 GMT
He's from the Na Gaeil club. I was referring to his ethnicity, natured v nurtured?, exploring the history of sports there, historometry it is called Tomás, a bit like our own Currow Corner boys nurtured by the egg. Now I never got game-time myself in Croker, nor at any level I would brag too much about, but in my opinion he has the makings of a true great FB, maybe an all-time great? He has the cut of a fella who could redefine the position, like Cluxton did with No 1. Dependability is his middle name and isn't that what FB is all about, last line of defense, prevents a goalie getting exposed. Did the Aussies not like him or what? No, it was his decision to come home. Not sure about the reasoning though. Maybe the lure of the green and gold jersey was just too strong!
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jul 12, 2018 18:37:24 GMT
He's from the Na Gaeil club. I was referring to his ethnicity, natured v nurtured?, exploring the history of sports there, historometry it is called Tomás, a bit like our own Currow Corner boys nurtured by the egg. Now I never got game-time myself in Croker, nor at any level I would brag too much about, but in my opinion he has the makings of a true great FB, maybe an all-time great? He has the cut of a fella who could redefine the position, like Cluxton did with No 1. Dependability is his middle name and isn't that what FB is all about, last line of defense, prevents a goalie getting exposed. Did the Aussies not like him or what? I couldn't give a *e about his ethnicity to be honest. Maybe the lad himself might talk about in the future but when you ask where is he from, my response is Na Gaeil. It's one thing to talk about the lineage of the Lynes, Spillanes, etc. That's grand. Maybe a more interesting question is did/do his parents play sport to a high level? Maybe I am being a little sensitive here, maybe. On the other hand we are talking about an U20 lad playing football for Kerry. Not sure how is ethnicity comes into it or why it should be brought up about a young lad. I'm not arrogant about this, perhaps it is a perfectly reasonable question and I shouldn't be interfering in your stuff and keep my comments on the lad, like we pretty much do with all players, to their football. I mean, we don't go round talking about other players private lives on here. We keep that * to the pub and don't record them on a public forum. Perhaps you think this is a private conversation; because it bloody well isn't. Young players of course come on and read our bull*.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Jul 12, 2018 18:51:34 GMT
I was referring to his ethnicity, natured v nurtured?, exploring the history of sports there, historometry it is called Tomás, a bit like our own Currow Corner boys nurtured by the egg. Now I never got game-time myself in Croker, nor at any level I would brag too much about, but in my opinion he has the makings of a true great FB, maybe an all-time great? He has the cut of a fella who could redefine the position, like Cluxton did with No 1. Dependability is his middle name and isn't that what FB is all about, last line of defense, prevents a goalie getting exposed. Did the Aussies not like him or what? I couldn't give a *e about his ethnicity to be honest. Maybe the lad himself might talk about in the future but when you ask where is he from, my response is Na Gaeil. It's one thing to talk about the lineage of the Lynes, Spillanes, etc. That's grand. Maybe a more interesting question is did/do his parents play sport to a high level? Maybe I am being a little sensitive here, maybe. On the other hand we are talking about an U20 lad playing football for Kerry. Not sure how is ethnicity comes into it or why it should be brought up about a young lad. I'm not arrogant about this, perhaps it is a perfectly reasonable question and I shouldn't be interfering in your stuff and keep my comments on the lad, like we pretty much do with all players, to their football. I mean, we don't go round talking about other players private lives on here. We keep that * to the pub and don't record them on a public forum. Perhaps you think this is a private conversation; because it bloody well isn't. Young players of course come on and read our bull*. Yerra man you are 'way wide of the mark - I am thinking Ó hAilpíns, Jayo, first of Pakistan heritage to win was it Connaught minor medal with Mayo, etc - I am surprised you would introduce such nonsense in this day and age, doesn't sit with your icon of a man of global accomplishment like our Stefan is destined. This is a public forum so it is you who needs to be sensible, if you haven't something positive to contribute then zip it, and I don't subscribe to your nonsense of saying one thing in a pub and another on here, a pub is, well a public house, a public place too! I bet Stefan is proud of his ethnicity, both the nature and nurture, I am also proud of him and to see him in THE jersey and I am sure I speak for everyone in that - you included? What would MOM think given his infamous line on the Ó hAilpíns's lineage - that neither Fiji nor Fermanagh were hurling strongholds? You've made better contributions Tomás!
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Post by keane on Jul 12, 2018 19:07:49 GMT
I was referring to his ethnicity, natured v nurtured?, exploring the history of sports there, historometry it is called Tomás, a bit like our own Currow Corner boys nurtured by the egg. Now I never got game-time myself in Croker, nor at any level I would brag too much about, but in my opinion he has the makings of a true great FB, maybe an all-time great? He has the cut of a fella who could redefine the position, like Cluxton did with No 1. Dependability is his middle name and isn't that what FB is all about, last line of defense, prevents a goalie getting exposed. Did the Aussies not like him or what? I couldn't give a *e about his ethnicity to be honest. Maybe the lad himself might talk about in the future but when you ask where is he from, my response is Na Gaeil. It's one thing to talk about the lineage of the Lynes, Spillanes, etc. That's grand. Maybe a more interesting question is did/do his parents play sport to a high level? Maybe I am being a little sensitive here, maybe. On the other hand we are talking about an U20 lad playing football for Kerry. Not sure how is ethnicity comes into it or why it should be brought up about a young lad. I'm not arrogant about this, perhaps it is a perfectly reasonable question and I shouldn't be interfering in your stuff and keep my comments on the lad, like we pretty much do with all players, to their football. I mean, we don't go round talking about other players private lives on here. We keep that * to the pub and don't record them on a public forum. Perhaps you think this is a private conversation; because it bloody well isn't. Young players of course come on and read our bull*. I mean I get where you're coming from but I think asking about a guy's background is ok - people were wondering previously where Devidas Uosis' stock came from and I'm sure it would have been ok to ask where Sean Wight was from originally back in the day. It's great to see people from different backgrounds playing GAA now, I think it's ok to want to know a bit about guys so we can celebrate our newly burgeoning diversity. I think if we're ok with going on about Brogan's mother being from Listowel and someone else's father being from Cork it's all above board to wonder where some of the new stock in Kerry football is hailing from. Just my 2c, I don't know what Stefan's heritage is anyway!
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jul 12, 2018 19:27:44 GMT
As I alluded to twice in my post I am not sure I am in the right here. Perfectly willing to admit I am wrong. Just giving my reaction.
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Post by veteran on Jul 12, 2018 19:41:09 GMT
Stunned Kennelly didn't bring this guy to Oz at the time. In last year's ALL-Ireland minor final a black lad came on for Derry and made a huge impression. He looked tailormade for Australia. I wonder did he go? I am always fascinated by these guys and always wonder about their background. What for instance makes them choose football rather than soccer? It is still a novelty to see these lads playing football and the hope of course is that as time goes on it will no longer be a novelty. This applies to any non national . It certainly will not impede the integration process.
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Post by givehimaball on Jul 12, 2018 19:45:35 GMT
Stunned Kennelly didn't bring this guy to Oz at the time. In last year's ALL-Ireland minor final a black lad came on for Derry and made a huge impression. He looked tailormade for Australia. I wonder did he go? I am always fascinated by these guys and always wonder about their background. What for instance makes them choose football rather than soccer? It is still a novelty to see these lads playing football and the hope of course is that as time goes on it will no longer be a novelty. This applies to any non national . It certainly will not impede the integration process. Callum Brown - Himself and Tohill's son are heading to Oz once Derry's U20 run comes to an end, so will be heading in a few weeks whatever way things shake out.
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Post by hatchetman on Jul 12, 2018 22:09:25 GMT
I couldn't give a *e about his ethnicity to be honest. Maybe the lad himself might talk about in the future but when you ask where is he from, my response is Na Gaeil. It's one thing to talk about the lineage of the Lynes, Spillanes, etc. That's grand. Maybe a more interesting question is did/do his parents play sport to a high level? Maybe I am being a little sensitive here, maybe. On the other hand we are talking about an U20 lad playing football for Kerry. Not sure how is ethnicity comes into it or why it should be brought up about a young lad. I'm not arrogant about this, perhaps it is a perfectly reasonable question and I shouldn't be interfering in your stuff and keep my comments on the lad, like we pretty much do with all players, to their football. I mean, we don't go round talking about other players private lives on here. We keep that * to the pub and don't record them on a public forum. Perhaps you think this is a private conversation; because it bloody well isn't. Young players of course come on and read our bull*. I mean I get where you're coming from but I think asking about a guy's background is ok - people were wondering previously where Devidas Uosis' stock came from and I'm sure it would have been ok to ask where Sean Wight was from originally back in the day. It's great to see people from different backgrounds playing GAA now, I think it's ok to want to know a bit about guys so we can celebrate our newly burgeoning diversity. I think if we're ok with going on about Brogan's mother being from Listowel and someone else's father being from Cork it's all above board to wonder where some of the new stock in Kerry football is hailing from. Just my 2c, I don't know what Stefan's heritage is anyway! Was Sean Wights background not from Kerry?
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Post by ballhopper34 on Jul 12, 2018 22:30:20 GMT
Sean Wight was born in Glasgow, I believe.
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Post by dc84 on Jul 13, 2018 7:07:42 GMT
Never mind heritage, its the future im concerned with and Stefans future is green and gold! Never saw such excitement about a full back before!
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Post by kerryexile on Jul 13, 2018 8:26:29 GMT
Stefan has great potential and I hope he keeps working hard at his game. I would be more measured than some contributors here. An awful lot of attention is focused on him. I saw only one photograph from the game against Cork and it was carried in all the newspapers and all the social media sites and it was Stefan after the final whistle. Regarding his man of the match - I thought there was one other player who may have got it.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Jul 13, 2018 11:31:07 GMT
Never mind heritage, its the future im concerned with and Stefans future is green and gold! Never saw such excitement about a full back before! Agree but nothing wrong with his past either, it is his future FB potential that arouses interest - now can anyone tell us what 'parish' he hails from? I am sure he is enjoying this too and hopefully he will laugh at us when his time comes! As regards MOTM well his right-ward steps alone in possession did it for me, JackO has done an right job but you can't teach sports intelligence and I am just wondering where it came from. Ah Tomás is all heart and maybe my inquisition was a bit of a bolt out of the blue, as Healy-Rae folk say 'I adore the ground he walks on', Stefan's that is, now watch a particular solicitor who will steal it from under your feet as you rise for Atlantic stormed high ball! BTW Vet, the politically correct brigade term it 'foreign national' as opposed to non national, all a loada bollix, once he lifts Sam we won't worry of strongholds, pun intended or what, ah I sense a poem coming on, credit Tomás, and didn't us on here know him before he was famous!!!!
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Post by dc84 on Jul 13, 2018 11:45:38 GMT
Never mind heritage, its the future im concerned with and Stefans future is green and gold! Never saw such excitement about a full back before! Agree but nothing wrong with his past either, it is his future FB potential that arouses interest - now can anyone tell us what 'parish' he hails from? I am sure he is enjoying this too and hopefully he will laugh at us when his time comes! As regards MOTM well his right-ward steps alone in possession did it for me, JackO has done an right job but you can't teach sports intelligence and I am just wondering where it came from. Ah Tomás is all heart and maybe my inquisition was a bit of a bolt out of the blue, as Healy-Rae folk say 'I adore the ground he walks on', Stefan's that is, now watch a particular solicitor who will steal it from under your feet as you rise for Atlantic stormed high ball! BTW Vet, the politically correct brigade term it 'foreign national' as opposed to non national, all a loada bollix, once he lifts Sam we won't worry of strongholds, pun intended or what, ah I sense a poem coming on, credit Tomás, and didn't us on here know him before he was famous!!!! Yeah i agree people can get very sensitive about this we would be lying if we said he didnt stand out! Same as Zebo for munster.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jul 13, 2018 13:00:58 GMT
Zebo's father was an 800 m runner.
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Post by veteran on Jul 13, 2018 14:12:05 GMT
Ballythefireside, like yourself I am not a member of the politically correct platoon. Indeed, I go out of my way to upscuttle their group think. Nobody should take dictation from fundamentalists. Think for yourself is the motto, subject to basic respect for other people.
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