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Post by kerrygold on Dec 15, 2017 10:01:07 GMT
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Post by kerrygold on Dec 15, 2017 10:08:45 GMT
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Post by Control3 on Dec 15, 2017 13:15:49 GMT
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Dec 15, 2017 13:35:57 GMT
The asethetics of this move are not the best! Sets a bad precedent - wouldnt be the first time that Vaughan has made a stupidly rash decision that he'll regret after
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Post by seamus on Dec 15, 2017 13:57:14 GMT
The asethetics of this move are not the best! Sets a bad precedent Easy to dive in and fire abuse (not kerrybhoy06 but in general) without knowing the detail of the story. Could be several legitimate reasons why he is bailing out. Modern keyboard warriors dont even try to scratch below the surface. The biggest shock in the story is that he is only 29- I had him down for 33/34.
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Dec 15, 2017 13:59:39 GMT
The asethetics of this move are not the best! Sets a bad precedent Easy to dive in and fire abuse (not kerrybhoy06 but in general) without knowing the detail of the story. Could be several legitimate reasons why he is bailing out. Modern keyboard warriors dont even try to scratch below the surface. The biggest shock in the story is that he is only 29- I had him down for 33/34. I agree but it does look bad, there's no denying that and the fact that they have just been relegated makes it look worse again!
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Dec 15, 2017 14:24:16 GMT
Easy to dive in and fire abuse (not kerrybhoy06 but in general) without knowing the detail of the story. Could be several legitimate reasons why he is bailing out. Modern keyboard warriors dont even try to scratch below the surface. The biggest shock in the story is that he is only 29- I had him down for 33/34. I agree but it does look bad, there's no denying that and the fact that they have just been relegated makes it look worse again! I think it is tempered by the fact that he didn't grow up in Ballinrobe. I understand the family is from Cork.
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Post by Mickmack on Dec 15, 2017 14:27:14 GMT
Shoe sales to drop in ballinrobe and increase in castlebar!
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Dec 15, 2017 14:30:20 GMT
I agree but it does look bad, there's no denying that and the fact that they have just been relegated makes it look worse again! I think it is tempered by the fact that he didn't grow up in Ballinrobe. I understand the family is from Cork. Ah yeah- theres probably several factors going on here, thats the main reason why i commented on the aesthethics of it more so than anything else.
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Post by tpo on Dec 15, 2017 17:14:08 GMT
He has played adult football for Ballinrobe for 11 years, been living in Castlebar for a number of years, probably wants to put down roots in new club before he retires playing. Not a problem. On a different note didn't rate him as a footballer but that's a another story
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Post by southward on Dec 15, 2017 23:44:05 GMT
Regardless of whatever point the author is trying to make, this is one of the worst-written articles I've ever seen at any level of journalism. A pathetic attempt to seem clever by using as many fancy-sounding words and phrases as possible just ends up as scarcely comprehensible gibberish. I'm nearly embarrassed for him.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Dec 16, 2017 2:41:04 GMT
Regardless of whatever point the author is trying to make, this is one of the worst-written articles I've ever seen at any level of journalism. A pathetic attempt to seem clever by using as many fancy-sounding words and phrases as possible just ends up as scarcely comprehensible gibberish. I'm nearly embarrassed for him. He is a rugby journalist.
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Post by kerrygold on Dec 16, 2017 12:32:47 GMT
Colm O'Rourke: Six personality types set the tone across our clubs... three should be treasured, three ignored 1 Colm O'Rourke
December 11 2017 11:41 AM The GAA is the most wonderful way to study a vast range of human behaviours — sometimes in the same person during the same game. There are, however, vast differences between the people involved in this wonderful game. Here are some of the principal characters. The Manager
This is a man of great importance, at least in his own mind. His word is gospel. It is his team and his way of doing things. No differing viewpoint is tolerated in case it is seen as weakness. Training is called at crazy times to demonstrate his authority. Ego is his middle name. When the team win it is part of his great tactical awareness. A loss is certainly down to the players. “You have all let me down again,” is the first thing said in the dressing-room after the match. The team belongs to him and every little insecurity in a man like this is reflected in his team. Such managers have a short shelf life. Sometimes there is an immediate impact with tough training and a harsh regime but it generally leaves long-term damage.
A drinks ban is part of his great tactical masterpiece. Players may take the abuse for a while but then realise that what is supposed to be enjoyment is worse than hard labour so they either walk away quietly or stop playing. Unfortunately there are a few of these stone age warriors around, most of them though have been culled. The Manager of People and Team Manager
This man is comfortable in his own skin and it reflects in his dealing with his players, selectors and the committee. He believes in debate and encourages ideas, especially among his management team. The growth and development of players as people is just as important as results.
This person does not measure success solely in terms of winning the league or championship. Are the players getting themselves sorted in terms of education and employment? Are they contributing to the long-term development of their club or county? Are they friends to those in need? Can they rise above personal selfishness and self-interest? The traits of a successful life can be learned in this environment. Yet there is also discipline and tough decisions are made, and sometimes players will even feel they are not being treated fairly. Long faces are part of every good team where there is competition for places.
This manager tries to look after his players if they are injured, or have personal setbacks, or are looking for jobs — and anything else that is lobbed at him. He behaves as a benign parent would, gently scolding but generally praising. When he eventually gets the push he walks away without looking back in anger. This is the manager we all want to be. The Father
This man has little or no knowledge of the game but because his son has a bit of talent he suddenly becomes the sideline sniper. Everyone knows him at matches because he parks himself in a position where he can be heard. He is an expert on tactics, training and selection. When he is asked to get involved in the team he declines as he is much too busy at work.
His son might behave like a right prat but not in the eyes of his father. It is the rest of the team who are causing the problem. “Why wouldn’t he get frustrated when he is taking up great positions and not getting the ball?” Naturally the referee gets his share of it too at every game. And the manager. Eventually it all comes to a head and people get fed up listening to his constant moans, even if many are intimidated by his aggressive conduct. He is told he must tone down. This is a complete insult and he walks away and joins another club, taking Junior with him. Soon after, Junior stops playing altogether.
The Dad
The dad’s job is to be driver, umpire, linesman, kitman, consoler, counsellor, ice-cream buyer and sometimes even the manager. He is positive, good-natured, helpful, good-humoured and realises it is not about him. He is not trying to live his football life through his son, who has more talent than he ever had. He sees football as an opportunity to be healthy, to make friends, build community spirit and to enjoy himself. He is not looking for anything back. I only came to fully realise the difference between a father and a dad recently after watching Blues Sisters, that excellent documentary on the Dublin ladies’ football team and their road to All-Ireland success after a lot of sickening defeats. Sinead Finnegan spoke movingly about her late dad who she described as “football mad” and it took her a while to get back into football after he died. She recalled one game where she was playing a “stinker” and was taken off by the Dublin management. When her dad met her afterwards he said, “Sinead, you were great”. She could do “no wrong” in his eyes. Every little girl and boy should have a dad like that. It keeps the GAA breathing.
The Occasional Follower who calls themselves a supporter
This person has no time for winter football. That is for muck savages. The season starts in April and the follower might get in a couple of league games if in the mood. Sure, there has been talk in the pub of lads who are making a splash but he will be able to judge them on one outing as soon as he gets to the field. There are no in-betweens, they are either great or useless. The manager gets the same scrutiny, the comments are often negative and laced with bitterness. This is a man who blames his failures in life on others.
Like many followers of other sports, he talks through his pocket. When his team is winning his bets pay for a night out and the praise of players is way over the top, but a loss brings a sharp response. These types do not last the course. The precarious nature of football does not suit their cynical disposition. They don’t see the good in others when things go wrong. The Supporter
This man can’t wait to get out in winter. Have coat, will travel. He is the eternal optimist. He sees progress when there is none and sees many brilliant young players in winter, most of whom disappear like the snow in spring. The supporter buys the jersey and all the kit, he defends the team even when he knows the prophets of doom are right. He doesn’t jump on the manager as he understands that the policy of continually shafting the manager gets the same result. Nothing. The supporter buys the tickets, knows the players by name and makes it his business to make some positive comment to them when they leave the dressing-room after a defeat or when he meets them in the days after. Enthusiasm never wanes and there is great belief in the power of positive thinking. Some day he hopes to see his club team win a championship or his county do a smash and grab for a provincial title.
But the enjoyment is being there and feeling part of it on both good days and bad. As life sentences go it is a blessing for the supporter. There are many of this type in every unit of the GAA. If there was not we could all fold our tents and go home.
************ So if you are in a club with a manager of people, a dad and a supporter then treasure them. The others are there too, the self-important manager, the overbearing father and the occasional follower. . . try to ignore them. Online Editors
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Post by kerrygold on Dec 16, 2017 12:49:51 GMT
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Post by Mickmack on Dec 16, 2017 14:06:56 GMT
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Post by kerrygold on Dec 16, 2017 15:06:39 GMT
Joe Canning has always come across as a level headed guy, right from the time of optioning out of the senior game as a nineteen year old to his demeanour after the final whistle last September. A top man in every sense.
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Post by Mickmack on Dec 16, 2017 17:52:51 GMT
Jim Gavin took over a team with all Ireland medals in their pockets. Micheal Donoghue didnt. Donoghues task was more akin to Pat Gilroys when he took over Dublin footballers. It was he got the monkey of Dublins back and he could do the same with the hurlers. Gavins biggest problem now is to harness the flow of talent coming through from 10 years and circa 30m of investment from AIG/GAA/Sports council and keep his squad motivated. It was a brilliant move to pluck Gearoid McInerney from nowhere and put him at CHB. It meant Daithi Burke could go to fullback and suddenly Galway were a different animal. He got them all pulling together for the Galway jersey and he didnt make the sort of baffling decisions that his predecessor Anthony Cunningham made. All in all, David Kelly, whoever he is, is talking rubbish.
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Post by kerrygold on Dec 16, 2017 23:23:42 GMT
Further snubs for Jim Gavin and Dublin tonight at the RTE Sports awards. David Kelly won't be happy!!!
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Post by southward on Dec 17, 2017 11:09:39 GMT
Further snubs for Jim Gavin and Dublin tonight at the RTE Sports awards. David Kelly won't be happy!!! Mind you, I find it difficult to believe that the general public would have the Irish showjumping team uppermost in their minds. More followers than the Dubs, for instance? Obviously some kind of mass-voting by a minority going on here. Awards season is a load of b*llocks anyway and public voting is just a money-making exercise.
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Post by kerrygold on Dec 17, 2017 11:27:58 GMT
Further snubs for Jim Gavin and Dublin tonight at the RTE Sports awards. David Kelly won't be happy!!! Mind you, I find it difficult to believe that the general public would have the Irish showjumping team uppermost in their minds. More followers than the Dubs, for instance? Obviously some kind of mass-voting by a minority going on here. Awards season is a load of b*llocks anyway and public voting is just a money-making exercise. The hawses are a huge multi million euro business in this country with huge spectator appeal. It is an interesting outcome all the same!
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Post by Mickmack on Dec 17, 2017 12:51:21 GMT
60 cent per vote. Nice one.
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Post by fitz on Dec 17, 2017 22:14:31 GMT
Jim Gavin took over a team with all Ireland medals in their pockets. Micheal Donoghue didnt. Donoghues task was more akin to Pat Gilroys when he took over Dublin footballers. It was he got the monkey of Dublins back and he could do the same with the hurlers. Gavins biggest problem now is to harness the flow of talent coming through from 10 years and circa 30m of investment from AIG/GAA/Sports council and keep his squad motivated. It was a brilliant move to pluck Gearoid McInerney from nowhere and put him at CHB. It meant Daithi Burke could go to fullback and suddenly Galway were a different animal. He got them all pulling together for the Galway jersey and he didnt make the sort of baffling decisions that his predecessor Anthony Cunningham made. All in all, David Kelly, whoever he is, is talking rubbish. Myopic bilge. Insults for practically everyone in there. To politely address Kelly would be with a full force boot in the hole.
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Post by jackiel on Dec 17, 2017 23:33:46 GMT
couldnt fathom the show jumpers winning team of the year myself, it's a minority sport after all. I'd probaly have ginen it to Dublin ladies or Galway hurlers. David Clifford wasn't really in with a chance against international compepetitors. In fairness Con O Callaghan should have been considered, he is a unique talent.
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Post by glengael on Dec 18, 2017 10:02:58 GMT
couldnt fathom the show jumpers winning team of the year myself, it's a minority sport after all. I'd probaly have ginen it to Dublin ladies or Galway hurlers. David Clifford wasn't really in with a chance against international compepetitors. In fairness Con O Callaghan should have been considered, he is a unique talent. What was the age limit for the young sportsperson award? These TV things are all about who bothers to vote. Not reliable indicators of anything - only gives the RTE heads a chance to dress up and have a chat really. I'd say Marty was bulling at having to miss it cos of his dancing practice..... TV3 don't even try a sports award gig of that sort so the standard doesn't have to be brilliant.
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Post by kerrygold on Dec 18, 2017 10:39:33 GMT
And the winner is . . . Sporting controversy at RTÉ Sport Awards James McClean wins Sportsperson of the Year as showjumpers win Team of the Year
about 21 hours ago Mary Hannigan
You kind of had this vision of the lady on the switchboard at RTE heaving the largest sigh of relief when ‘Ireland’s Greatest Sporting Moment’ concluded the other week, having been most probably bombarded with incensed sports fans sharing their vexation at the outcome of the voting - and possibly cursing while doing so. ‘Thank heavens,’ she might have said, ‘that’s the end of sporting controversy at Montrose for the year’. And then she’d have been nearing the end of her shift on Saturday night, all set for home, when her switchboard would have lit up again, this time like the Christmas tree in Trafalgar Square. The first clue that something was stirring was the sight of Cian O’Connor in the studio, him having zipped home from London where he’s competing at that Olympia thingie, just to have the quickest of chats with Joanne Cantwell. Granted, his trip was probably quicker than Brian Fenton and Jim Gavin’s across Dublin, what with the new Luas problems and all, but it was most likely quite costly and highly disruptive of Cian’s schedule. And more than a few viewers would have been thinking, ‘God, wasn’t he great to come home when there’s as much chance of the New York hurlers winning Team of the Year as the showjumpers’. And then there was Tony O’Donoghue loitering outside James McClean’s house in Birmingham with a large heavy object stashed away in a holdall, which must surely have puzzled the Derry man. Although his reluctance to dial 999 denied us what would have been an entertaining conclusion to the show, a handcuffed Tony being dragged in to a police van live on our tellies. But what was clear from the off was that if Cork got its act together they’d have had a clean sweep of the awards, they just needed some smart vote management rather than splitting their ticks beside the names of Dominic Casey, John Caulfield, Paudie Murray, Rena Buckley, Paul O’Donovan, Cork City FC, the Cork camogie team and Mark O’Donovan/Shane O’Driscoll.
In the end, they made a hames of it and only have themselves to blame, the county left empty-handed apart from a one fifth share of the team award through Shane Sweetnam. Because, yes, the public chose the showjumpers as the team of the year. ‘There is absolutely no need for that kind of language,’ the switchboard lady would have spent the next couple of hours advising her callers, roughly 74 per cent of them, you’d guess, Dublin GAA supporters. Con O’Callaghan’s non-nomination had already left them feeling aggrieved, Jim Gavin and Mick Bohan losing to Aidan O’Brien would have put them close to the edge, their three-in-a-row-winning team being beaten by a bunch of leaping horses tipping them over it. And there wasn’t even a boy Dub nominated for Sportsperson of the Year, Noelle Healy now their only hope. And the winner is . . . down James’ chimney came Tony, whipping a big shiny trophy out of his holdall. Even for those of us who love James dearly, it was a little like those times your team wins a penalty when you know they shouldn’t have, your left winger tumbling over an imaginary foot. You feel a bit guilty about celebrating, but then you remember all the times you should have had a penalty and didn’t get one, so the guilt is washed away. Roy Keane, for example, only won the Sports Person of the Year once, in 1999, when he should have won it every year between 1993 and 2005. So, lovers of feisty hard-tackling Irish footballers with a rebellious streak were entitled to clear consciences on Saturday night. Of course, the disgruntled would argue that Roy won things. Among the reaction spotted: ‘WHAT DID McCLEAN WIN IT FOR?? NOT WEARING A FECKIN’ POPPY?’ A person called Seymour, commenting on RTE’s website, replied: “He did score a goal that nearly got us somewhere.” That’s what the switchboard lady should have told everyone, before hanging up and heading home to a triple brandy and a sandwich, lest she was hungry. Speaking of which. Apart from James, our star of the week was boxer Tony Bellew for his commentating on Sky on the fight between Martin Ward and Juli Giner last Wednesday night: “Professional boxing and amateur boxing are totally different sports . . . a professional fight is a marathon, it isn’t a sprint - it’s a war of malnutrition.”
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Post by kerrygold on Dec 19, 2017 11:12:15 GMT
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Post by kerrygold on Dec 20, 2017 9:55:49 GMT
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Post by lár na páirce on Dec 21, 2017 10:23:02 GMT
Ahh come off it,Alot do relatively well out of an intercounty career,Employment opportunities,Commercial gigs etc..even alone the milage rate of 65c a KM,Back and over to training,Back and over to the gym,5 times a week x 40 weeks is nice gravy when its all added up
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Post by Jigz84 on Dec 21, 2017 11:49:44 GMT
The drawn 2008 All-Ireland Semi-Final with Cork was on Eir Tuesday night. Awful stuff from both sides really looking back.
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Post by kerrygold on Dec 21, 2017 17:03:18 GMT
Ahh come off it,Alot do relatively well out of an intercounty career,Employment opportunities,Commercial gigs etc..even alone the milage rate of 65c a KM,Back and over to training,Back and over to the gym,5 times a week x 40 weeks is nice gravy when its all added up That is just my assessment of what the county players are saying.....................
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