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Post by onlykerry on Nov 24, 2017 9:28:59 GMT
Getting really annoyed with the decision makers who are managing Croke Park - It is bad enough that they put music events into the stadium during the peak summer months for hurling and football but in 2018 is seems they are spreading the dates meaning the pitch will be abused by heavy traffic and staging on at least two different date slots.
Buble? plays there Mid June and now Taylor Swift is after being announced for early July.
Some stadiums can take this treatment as they were build for multi use abuse - Croke Park was built and designed for field sports and we have seen the effects of heavy equipment on the playing surface.
Has money become the GOD of the GAA authorities.
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Post by kerrygold on Nov 24, 2017 9:35:40 GMT
Yes.
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Post by glengael on Nov 24, 2017 14:59:09 GMT
Yes and it wasn't today or yesterday that happened.
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Post by kerrygold on Nov 24, 2017 15:56:32 GMT
Digging up the pitch at the height of the championship season is flawed.
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Post by kerrygold on Nov 24, 2017 20:26:01 GMT
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Post by ballynamona on Nov 25, 2017 14:09:42 GMT
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Nov 25, 2017 16:29:15 GMT
Interesting approach to take- while a review is necessary I was hoping that they would put in place some way of incentivising club players to play with their division.
The likelihood is that a West Kerry with sufficient commitment and buy in would still beat some other divisional sides
So a hard and fast rule penalising divisional sides based on what are the perceived best/worst hypothetical teams is not the way forward- teams should be rewarded/penalised based on the team they actually get onto the pitch
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Nov 26, 2017 12:45:14 GMT
To me the more pressing issue is how to stop rural depopulation. I live in rural Co. Limerick and me and the girlfriend have been looking for a job in Kerry for ages. For my job in tourism it would be more beneficial to live in the Kingdom, but she has a good job in Limerick city and it is not logical to live anywhere in Kerry if she can't find a similar job there. This is the case for many people in Kerry. I think I know as many Kerry people outside the Kingdom than I know people in the Kingdom. Like Tomás Ó Sé's children, or half the Dublin teams, their children will grow up in another county and will most likely end up playing there as well. Cork city is growing and there are many players in Cork city with Kerry ancestry at club and county level. It is even more worrying for rural clubs as a family from Dromid might move to Killarney or further away from work meaning the next generations are lost to them. In a way the success of Dingle and An Ghaeltacht is due to people from around the peninsula moving to Dingle town and the Ghaeltacht being kept alive with subsidies. If it wasn't for the Irish language the area probably would have been deserted more rapidly and An Ghaeltacht might not have been in the intermediate championship. The West Kerry division will survive with or without Dingle and an Ghaeltacht, but at what cost?
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Post by kerrygold on Nov 26, 2017 18:36:02 GMT
Is forcing teams to go senior the correct approach. Kenmare wanted to remain in the intermediate championship rather than going senior.
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Post by Mickmack on Nov 26, 2017 20:08:36 GMT
To me the more pressing issue is how to stop rural depopulation. I live in rural Co. Limerick and me and the girlfriend have been looking for a job in Kerry for ages. For my job in tourism it would be more beneficial to live in the Kingdom, but she has a good job in Limerick city and it is not logical to live anywhere in Kerry if she can't find a similar job there. This is the case for many people in Kerry. I think I know as many Kerry people outside the Kingdom than I know people in the Kingdom. Like Tomás Ó Sé's children, or half the Dublin teams, their children will grow up in another county and will most likely end up playing there as well. Cork city is growing and there are many players in Cork city with Kerry ancestry at club and county level. It is even more worrying for rural clubs as a family from Dromid might move to Killarney or further away from work meaning the next generations are lost to them.In a way the success of Dingle and An Ghaeltacht is due to people from around the peninsula moving to Dingle town and the Ghaeltacht being kept alive with subsidies. If it wasn't for the Irish language the area probably would have been deserted more rapidly and An Ghaeltacht might not have been in the intermediate championship. The West Kerry division will survive with or without Dingle and an Ghaeltacht, but at what cost? As far as i know David Cliffords dad migrated from Dromid to Fossa.
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Post by kerrygold on Nov 26, 2017 20:23:44 GMT
More back towards Derrynane Caherdaniel direction than Dromid.
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Post by Mickmack on Nov 26, 2017 21:05:13 GMT
Gods country anyway!
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Post by kerrygold on Nov 26, 2017 21:26:43 GMT
Absolutely!
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Post by ballynamona on Nov 26, 2017 23:11:34 GMT
Is forcing teams to go senior the correct approach. Kenmare wanted to remain in the intermediate championship rather than going senior. Teams should be allowed not to not go up if they judge that's in their best interest - but teams shouldn't be allowed to stamp their feet and not go down. That culture is that bit more prevalent in hurling - protectionism. Counties like Westmeath and Carlow hit a bit of a glass ceiling. I think years ago, there was a proposal that teams in Divisions 1, 2 and 3 of the Co. League should play in the Co. Champ, and the remaining teams should band together in groups of no more than 3 teams. Interesting idea to say the least. I like the idea of linking Co. League status to Champ status, but fatal flaw is of course how few games county players play in Co. League.
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Post by lár na páirce on Nov 27, 2017 0:07:19 GMT
They should leave the county championship as is for 2018,I think you will see stronger divisional teams due to the scheduling of the competition.
If Templenoe win the Intermediate next year cross that bridge then,But at the moment it should remain the same as the strength of some teams should be determined on the pitch and not the board room
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Post by glengael on Nov 27, 2017 9:25:31 GMT
On a totally different tack, do sports shows now feel they have to imitate Off the Ball's style, all this chatty 'banter' and stream of consciousness and mindless trivia stuff? 2FM seem to have adopted it for their 7pm sports show. I happened to hear Red FM sports show last night. It used to be quite good but now they were at the same thing, all chat and this forced relaxed style and the presenters chatting amongst themselves.
If I want to listen to relaxed 'banter' I'll got to the pub thanks. On radio I'd like to hear the results, a few post match interviews and some decent analysis . Not endless stories about the day the presenter bought a pair of shoes....................
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Post by kerrygold on Nov 27, 2017 9:28:01 GMT
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Nov 27, 2017 17:14:27 GMT
To me the more pressing issue is how to stop rural depopulation. I live in rural Co. Limerick and me and the girlfriend have been looking for a job in Kerry for ages. For my job in tourism it would be more beneficial to live in the Kingdom, but she has a good job in Limerick city and it is not logical to live anywhere in Kerry if she can't find a similar job there. This is the case for many people in Kerry. I think I know as many Kerry people outside the Kingdom than I know people in the Kingdom. Like Tomás Ó Sé's children, or half the Dublin teams, their children will grow up in another county and will most likely end up playing there as well. Cork city is growing and there are many players in Cork city with Kerry ancestry at club and county level. It is even more worrying for rural clubs as a family from Dromid might move to Killarney or further away from work meaning the next generations are lost to them.In a way the success of Dingle and An Ghaeltacht is due to people from around the peninsula moving to Dingle town and the Ghaeltacht being kept alive with subsidies. If it wasn't for the Irish language the area probably would have been deserted more rapidly and An Ghaeltacht might not have been in the intermediate championship. The West Kerry division will survive with or without Dingle and an Ghaeltacht, but at what cost? As far as i know David Cliffords dad migrated from Dromid to Fossa. Imagine how Dromid would do in the junior championship with David Clifford
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Post by frankgalvintralee on Nov 27, 2017 17:38:21 GMT
Motions are being voted on tonight any motion people think should be brought in?
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Post by piggott on Nov 27, 2017 17:40:48 GMT
As far as i know David Cliffords dad migrated from Dromid to Fossa. Imagine how Dromid would do in the junior championship with David Clifford Or if the Crokes had him!
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Post by kerrygold on Nov 28, 2017 9:31:05 GMT
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Post by kerrygold on Nov 29, 2017 15:28:44 GMT
Alan Dillon and Denis Bastick retiring from the game over the past few days.
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Post by Mickmack on Nov 29, 2017 15:53:03 GMT
No medal from 6 finals by one. 5 from 5 finals by the other
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Post by kerrygold on Nov 29, 2017 15:58:51 GMT
Some stats!
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Post by buck02 on Nov 29, 2017 16:21:25 GMT
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Post by veteran on Nov 29, 2017 20:25:35 GMT
I was always a huge admirer of Alan Dillon. There was a magnetic appeal about his industry and honesty . He has no senior medal to show for his efforts but that does not diminish his stature by one jot. Medals are won on the back of a team effort. Indeed there is a certain meaninglessness in comparing the respective merits of a player with several medals with a player with none. A quirk of birth could ensure a particular player finishes a basketful of medals. In another instance a twist of fate , the Semaus Darby goal, could ensure the iincomparable Matt Connor finishes up with his medal rather than leaving empty handed.
Sadly, neither a quirk of birth or a twist of fate intervened for Alan. In spite of that, I will remember him with total respect.
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Post by Mickmack on Nov 29, 2017 21:59:00 GMT
I was always a huge admirer of Alan Dillon. There was a magnetic appeal about his industry and honesty . He has no senior medal to show for his efforts but that does not diminish his stature by one jot. Medals are won on the back of a team effort. Indeed there is a certain meaninglessness in comparing the respective merits of a player with several medals with a player with none. A quirk of birth could ensure a particular player finishes a basketful of medals. In another instance a twist of fate , the Semaus Darby goal, could ensure the iincomparable Matt Connor finishes up with his medal rather than leaving empty handed. Sadly, neither a quirk of birth or a twist of fate intervened for Alan. In spite of that, I will remember him with total respect. Well said
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Post by glengael on Nov 30, 2017 19:15:02 GMT
I see Philly McMahon won the Sports Book of the Year at the BGE Awards hooley the other night. At this rate Jim Gavin will be on the New Year's Honours List and Stephen Cluxton will be Oscar nominated in the Spring..................
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2017 19:53:38 GMT
Sure didn't Donaghy win the book award last year
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Post by kerrygold on Nov 30, 2017 21:44:28 GMT
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