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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2017 12:10:11 GMT
I agree with that buck also their bench is very strong. They didn't have a bench like this a few years ago. They also have 3 Kerry minors who could step up next year.
Corofin are a good side should win Connacht. Can't see anyone beating Slaughtneil in Ulster. Vincents should win Leinster. Portlaoise are a decent side but seems to always fall at the end.
It looks like Crokes v Nemo final but Crokes won't look at it like that. Pat O'Shea will take it one game at a time and won't let them get ahead of themselves you can be sure.
How does he keep them happy on the bench? Respect. All those players have great respect for him. He is well liked in the club and they listen to him. From u12s up to Juniors he is respected. All the players from the 90s team still help out at the club.
Pat his brother Seanie Vince Casey Mike Buckley John O'Shea Noel O'Leary Brendan Keogh Sean Clarke Ger O'Shea etc still go to all the games and are still involved in the Club. That is a huge help to a Club when you have ex players helping out. You go down to the club on a Saturday morning and they are down there helping out with the young fellas that's great to see.
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Post by Mickmack on Oct 31, 2017 12:48:10 GMT
I dont know Pat oShea but he strikes me as someone that is unemcumbered by an ego.
Thats high praise indeed if it is in fact the case.
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Post by kerrygold on Oct 31, 2017 12:50:26 GMT
Nothing overly exciting about the Dublin county final! It was fairly dire stuff to be honest. I sat down last night expecting a good game of football in perfect conditions in Parnell Park but it was fairly putrid stuff. It wasnt helped by a ref who gave some very soft frees inside the 45. For Vincents Ger Brennan played to extra man role at the back well and of course Connolly was different class up front. I also thought Brian Mullins son had a good game in midfield, considering the (fair) belt he got in the first minute. For Ballymun, Philly McMahon just wanted to ref the game and not play in it. Dean Rock was invisible. Crokes seem to have learned a lot about this competition in recent years. A few years ago, they would not have won that game in Clonmel when reduced to 14 men after 35 minutes. Watching their last 3 games in the Kerry championship, I noted that Crokes had become well accustomed to the dark arts and have a cynical edge to them. A few years ago I think they would have been seen as a soft touch by some - not anymore. It was difficult to muster up the enthusiasm to go back and watch the second half. Rock seemed to have no interest in the game which was disappointing. A disappointing standard considering all the players, the big clubs, population, facilitates and money is in Dublin. The intercounty game at the top has moved light years ahead of the club game now. Almost polarised universes.
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Post by Fado on Oct 31, 2017 14:16:56 GMT
Kilcar are a decent team and have a good chance against Slaughtneil.
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Post by OnTheForty on Oct 31, 2017 14:36:54 GMT
Kilcar are a decent team and have a good chance against Slaughtneil. Yes, Kilcar had a good win over Scotstown, and McBrearty is a handful at club level.In Leinster Portlaoise advanced. They could give Vincent's a contest. Call it now, provincial club winners: Crokes, Vincent's, Corofin, Slaughtneil Gaeltacht have to be fancied for the Intermediate All Ireland, if they take it seriously enough. Last week there was 10 red cards in a Leinster intermediate club game. Must be a record. www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2017/1021/914225-ten-red-cards-in-leinster-intermediate-game/
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Oct 31, 2017 15:17:03 GMT
I know Pat relatively well as my father knows him well, from my dealings he is 2 things:
Intensely passionate about football, and a very nice man
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2017 18:41:05 GMT
Well said kerrybhoy. I can see why people think that if you don't know him but he is a very nice guy. His whole family is. Not to sound biased but Crokes are not a club like that. All the lads are very grounded and are very focused.
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Oct 31, 2017 19:18:47 GMT
Well said kerrybhoy. I can see why people think that if you don't know him but he is a very nice guy. His whole family is. Not to sound biased but Crokes are not a club like that. All the lads are very grounded and are very focused. Ah yeah I can be critical of Crokes at times (when I feel it is fair to criticise) but I must say Pat has been a bang up bloke whenever I have had any dealings with him. Was happy to see him get Crokes over the line last year as I know he absolutely lives for it (and is also excellent at what he does).
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Oct 31, 2017 21:20:39 GMT
I have one bone to pick with Crokes...sometimes I see at Kerry games good Crokes people wearing Crokes gear.
Personally I am a little uneasy with that.
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Post by thebluepanther on Oct 31, 2017 23:02:20 GMT
I sat down last night expecting a good game of football in perfect conditions in Parnell Park but it was fairly putrid stuff. It wasnt helped by a ref who gave some very soft frees inside the 45. For Vincents Ger Brennan played to extra man role at the back well and of course Connolly was different class up front. I also thought Brian Mullins son had a good game in midfield, considering the (fair) belt he got in the first minute. For Ballymun, Philly McMahon just wanted to ref the game and not play in it. Dean Rock was invisible. Crokes seem to have learned a lot about this competition in recent years. A few years ago, they would not have won that game in Clonmel when reduced to 14 men after 35 minutes. Watching their last 3 games in the Kerry championship, I noted that Crokes had become well accustomed to the dark arts and have a cynical edge to them. A few years ago I think they would have been seen as a soft touch by some - not anymore. Wouldn't disagree, poor game of football. Ballymun had a night they will want to forget. Where a lot of their intercounty players didnt perform or werent let. Philly hasnt played well for Ballymun for a while now and he was never going to be able to man mark Connolly. Vincents dictated the game and Connolly ran the show in the first half. John Small the only player who stood up for Ballymun. Shane Carthy and Nathan Mullins along with Connolly were very good for Vincents. Last year I felt Ballymun left it behind them , but this year they can have no complaints, the best team has come out of Dublin.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2017 0:50:21 GMT
I have one bone to pick with Crokes...sometimes I see at Kerry games good Crokes people wearing Crokes gear. Personally I am a little uneasy with that. Why? So what. They have a lot of pride in their Club. They are not the only Club doing it. I understand you are entitled to your opinion I don't understand why it would bother you. It doesn't mean they don't support the County team any less.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2017 0:57:22 GMT
I sat down last night expecting a good game of football in perfect conditions in Parnell Park but it was fairly putrid stuff. It wasnt helped by a ref who gave some very soft frees inside the 45. For Vincents Ger Brennan played to extra man role at the back well and of course Connolly was different class up front. I also thought Brian Mullins son had a good game in midfield, considering the (fair) belt he got in the first minute. For Ballymun, Philly McMahon just wanted to ref the game and not play in it. Dean Rock was invisible. Crokes seem to have learned a lot about this competition in recent years. A few years ago, they would not have won that game in Clonmel when reduced to 14 men after 35 minutes. Watching their last 3 games in the Kerry championship, I noted that Crokes had become well accustomed to the dark arts and have a cynical edge to them. A few years ago I think they would have been seen as a soft touch by some - not anymore. Wouldn't disagree, poor game of football. Ballymun had a night they will want to forget. Where a lot of their intercounty players didnt perform or werent let. Philly hasnt played well for Ballymun for a while now and he was never going to be able to man mark Connolly. Vincents dictated the game and Connolly ran the show in the first half. John Small the only player who stood up for Ballymun. Shane Carthy and Nathan Mullins along with Connolly were very good for Vincents. Last year I felt Ballymun left it behind them , but this year they can have no complaints, the best team has come out of Dublin. Vincents have a dangerous forward line. Varley Quinn Connolly Carthy Burke and Diamond are all good at scoring. I wouldn't write them off. They should win Leinster and then you never know. They have some decent subs as well.
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Post by thebluepanther on Nov 1, 2017 8:17:32 GMT
Wouldn't disagree, poor game of football. Ballymun had a night they will want to forget. Where a lot of their intercounty players didnt perform or werent let. Philly hasnt played well for Ballymun for a while now and he was never going to be able to man mark Connolly. Vincents dictated the game and Connolly ran the show in the first half. John Small the only player who stood up for Ballymun. Shane Carthy and Nathan Mullins along with Connolly were very good for Vincents. Last year I felt Ballymun left it behind them , but this year they can have no complaints, the best team has come out of Dublin. Vincents have a dangerous forward line. Varley Quinn Connolly Carthy Burke and Diamond are all good at scoring. I wouldn't write them off. They should win Leinster and then you never know. They have some decent subs as well. Vincents tactically this year are very good under Mullins. They will be very hard to beat. Connolly looks very fresh and young lad Galvin looks a prospect. Ger Brennan is a clever defender and these type of gamessecm suit him.
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Post by Mickmack on Nov 1, 2017 8:24:41 GMT
TG4 showed Ballygunner v Thurles....a massive battle which Ballygunner edging it at the end of extra time by two points. Pauric Maher was brilliant for Thurles even though he let a long range free through his fingers and into his own net early in the game.
The KK county final saw Dicksboro win their first title since 1993 and only their fifth in all by beating Shamrocks. Exciting game with goals flying in all over the place but the standard of defending was poor enough
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Post by Mickmack on Nov 1, 2017 8:26:31 GMT
Ballymuns recent record is poor in finals.
I hope Crokes and Ballymun meet.... are they destined to play in the final if they keep winning or would they meet in the semi final.
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Nov 1, 2017 9:24:10 GMT
Ballymuns recent record is poor in finals. I hope Crokes and Ballymun meet.... are they destined to play in the final if they keep winning or would they meet in the semi final. Ballymun are out- Vincents beat them in the Dublin final
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Post by hugh20 on Nov 1, 2017 9:45:17 GMT
Ballymuns recent record is poor in finals. I hope Crokes and Ballymun meet.... are they destined to play in the final if they keep winning or would they meet in the semi final. *Vincents. Yes, the draw this year is: Munster vs Ulster Leinster vs Connacht/Britain So potentially, Crokes would only play Vincent's in a final. Ballymun have indeed underperformed and underachieved with this group of players. On paper, they are extremely strong and they should have a few more county and provincial titles with perhaps an All Ireland or two. I also believe that the 4 semi finalists from last year look the most likely 4 semi finalists once again this year and you would have to say that all 4 are capable of beating one another.
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Post by Mickmack on Nov 1, 2017 10:05:55 GMT
Ballymuns recent record is poor in finals. I hope Crokes and Ballymun meet.... are they destined to play in the final if they keep winning or would they meet in the semi final. Ballymun are out- Vincents beat them in the Dublin final Meant to say that i hope Crokes and Vincents meet. Enda Varley is an effective player for Vincents...you would wonder could Mayo do with him again.
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Post by glengael on Nov 1, 2017 11:56:25 GMT
TG4 showed Ballygunner v Thurles....a massive battle which Ballygunner edging it at the end of extra time by two points. Pauric Maher was brilliant for Thurles even though he let a long range free through his fingers and into his own net early in the game. The KK county final saw Dicksboro win their first title since 1993 and only their fifth in all by beating Shamrocks. Exciting game with goals flying in all over the place but the standard of defending was poor enough How in the name of heavens did it take until now to play the KK hurling final given their early exit from the senior championship this year?
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Post by hugh20 on Nov 1, 2017 13:01:10 GMT
I know Pat relatively well as my father knows him well, from my dealings he is 2 things: Intensely passionate about football, and a very nice man Indeed he is. Many clubs have people like Pat who are extremely passionate and are great club men/women, however I don't think there are many clubs who have people with the extensive knowledge of players and who possess the tactical nous that Pat has. What I admire the most about him is the time he puts into the underage structure. Many clubs neglect their underage academies and expect results at senior level. Pat regularly takes sessions with the under 6s, 8s and 10s and teaches them the basic skills of the game. He "coaches" the other club coaches and gives them great advice and tips on how to improve.
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Post by hugh20 on Nov 1, 2017 13:03:00 GMT
TG4 showed Ballygunner v Thurles....a massive battle which Ballygunner edging it at the end of extra time by two points. Pauric Maher was brilliant for Thurles even though he let a long range free through his fingers and into his own net early in the game. The KK county final saw Dicksboro win their first title since 1993 and only their fifth in all by beating Shamrocks. Exciting game with goals flying in all over the place but the standard of defending was poor enough How in the name of heavens did it take until now to play the KK hurling final given their early exit from the senior championship this year? I know both semi finals were drawn the first time around anyway so this probably affected it by a week. Perhaps there were other rounds that were also drawn but I am unsure about this.
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Post by ballhopper34 on Nov 1, 2017 15:11:21 GMT
I know Pat relatively well as my father knows him well, from my dealings he is 2 things: Intensely passionate about football, and a very nice man Indeed he is. Many clubs have people like Pat who are extremely passionate and are great club men/women, however I don't think there are many clubs who have people with the extensive knowledge of players and who possess the tactical nous that Pat has. What I admire the most about him is the time he puts into the underage structure. Many clubs neglect their underage academies and expect results at senior level. Pat regularly takes sessions with the under 6s, 8s and 10s and teaches them the basic skills of the game. He "coaches" the other club coaches and gives them great advice and tips on how to improve. That last sentence hits the nail on the head. In fact, I think the coaching of the underage teams is at a very high level throughout the county. This is best seen in the performance of the basic skills by the last few minor teams - very few instances of picking the ball off the ground, for example (if it is close, you must put the foot under it 100% of the time). Lesser teams will give up a free or two every game needlessly in this area. Another area is the quality of solo - even when under no pressure - nice and controlled, keep it at or below elbow level (no big, high solo like Brian Fenton in the All-Ireland final, for example). Again, one or two possessions gained/lost here can make all the difference in a tight game. Those who coach the coaches are certainly doing a great job - long may it continue. It is this type of behind the scenes work that will get us back to 3 senior titles a decade on average (looking dodgy for this decade though).
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Post by kerrygold on Nov 2, 2017 19:56:38 GMT
TG4 showed Ballygunner v Thurles....a massive battle which Ballygunner edging it at the end of extra time by two points. Pauric Maher was brilliant for Thurles even though he let a long range free through his fingers and into his own net early in the game. The KK county final saw Dicksboro win their first title since 1993 and only their fifth in all by beating Shamrocks. Exciting game with goals flying in all over the place but the standard of defending was poor enough How in the name of heavens did it take until now to play the KK hurling final given their early exit from the senior championship this year? I think having the club finals on Paddy Day is the biggest driver in delaying county championships around the country.
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Post by lár na páirce on Nov 2, 2017 20:06:53 GMT
How in the name of heavens did it take until now to play the KK hurling final given their early exit from the senior championship this year? I think having the club finals on Paddy Day is the biggest driver in delaying county championships around the country.I agree totally,Both All Ireland Finals on New Years Day would be excellent,Start the GAA year off with a bang
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Post by kerrygold on Nov 2, 2017 20:07:32 GMT
I know Pat relatively well as my father knows him well, from my dealings he is 2 things: Intensely passionate about football, and a very nice man Indeed he is. Many clubs have people like Pat who are extremely passionate and are great club men/women, however I don't think there are many clubs who have people with the extensive knowledge of players and who possess the tactical nous that Pat has. What I admire the most about him is the time he puts into the underage structure. Many clubs neglect their underage academies and expect results at senior level. Pat regularly takes sessions with the under 6s, 8s and 10s and teaches them the basic skills of the game. He "coaches" the other club coaches and gives them great advice and tips on how to improve. Crokes look a bit like Dublin lite to me at the moment. Pat seems to get new defensive transition into attack game. I think he would be a huge addition to EF as selector/coach.
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Post by kerrygold on Nov 2, 2017 20:09:51 GMT
I think having the club finals on Paddy Day is the biggest driver in delaying county championships around the country. I agree totally,Both All Ireland Finals on New Years Day would be excellent,Start the GAA year off with a bang Croke Park might be working towards this.
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Post by Mickmack on Nov 3, 2017 10:36:13 GMT
The All Ireland Club champions Cuala retained the Dublin title by a goal. The only goal of the game was scored by Darragh OConnell. I wonder will he feature in Gilroys plans in 2018. His inclusion in the Dublin panel by Ger Cunningham wasnt met by universal approval.
He would be a huge asset if he returned to play with Kerry. He got MOTM in the All Ireland club final of 2017.
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Post by kerrygold on Nov 3, 2017 11:41:43 GMT
Cant see Gilroy playing to the mob, if he is good enough I'd say he will be in.
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Post by Mickmack on Nov 5, 2017 19:13:37 GMT
So after today, Cork, Tipp and KK have no representatives left in the hurling club competition. The club championship is a great leveller.
Na Piarsaigh of Limerick had a big win over Blackrock of Cork. Cuala beat Dicksboro by 6 points with Con o Callaghan outstanding...they shoved CHB Kieran Joyce back on him to no avail. Darragh oConnell was brilliant at midfield and got man of the match.
Ballygunner had enough in the tank after last weeks battle with Thurles to come from behind to beat Sixmilebridge of Clare by a point.
Na Piarsaigh won the all Ireland two years ago and the munster final is going to be a big contest.
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Post by kerrygold on Nov 6, 2017 9:22:13 GMT
Have Kennelly or his type any interest in O'Callaghan or are Dublin just so damn good at what they are doing at the moment?
Regardless, it would be exciting to set Con light up the hurling side of the Dubs also. We want to see that kind of thing as punters.
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